P3D/P4D screenshots redux...oops!

***DaveQ*** · December 12th, 2019, 07:43

Originally Posted by Butcherbird17

Coming out of the paintshop. Enterprise and North Carolina.

Iowa with Enterprise and N. Carolina in the background.

Saratoga.

And a couple of the old Battlewagons, New York and Texas.

Joe

These are absolutely stunning models and these repaints look brilliant

! But I've spent two days trying to add bow waves; all looks great when the ships are moving but I can't get a visibility condition to prevent them showing when the the ship is stationary. Which fx files are you using??

DaveQ

**Butcherbird17** · December 12th, 2019, 09:18

Originally Posted by DaveQ

These are absolutely stunning models and these repaints look brilliant

! But I've spent two days trying to add bow waves; all looks great when the ships are moving but I can't get a visibility condition to prevent them showing when the the ship is stationary. Which fx files are you using?? DaveQ

Dave,
The effect I'm using for the Bow is fx_wake_bow_Zu. I don't know if it is a stock file or an add-on. The effect is visible when the ship is stationary which is a bummer.
I know Deltasim uses some sort of gauge effect on his King George V for the bow that works with movement/speed of the ship. But that is player model and don't know
if it would work on AI. Maybe talk to Rob (rcbarend) and see if he has one or could make one for AI.

Joe

***SkippyBing*** · December 12th, 2019, 10:15

Originally Posted by Butcherbird17

Dave,
The effect I'm using for the Bow is fx_wake_bow_Zu. I don't know if it is a stock file or an add-on. The effect is visible when the ship is stationary which is a bummer.
I know Deltasim uses some sort of gauge effect on his King George V for the bow that works with movement/speed of the ship. But that is player model and don't know
if it would work on AI. Maybe talk to Rob (rcbarend) and see if he has one or could make one for AI.

Joe

Depending on how you're adding the effect it just needs a visibility condition that only displays it above a speed of ~5knots.

**Butcherbird17** · December 12th, 2019, 12:11

Originally Posted by SkippyBing

Depending on how you're adding the effect it just needs a visibility condition that only displays it above a speed of ~5knots.

Just tested out the visibility condition and changed it in MCX and it works. The part I need to figure out is to get it displaying above 5 knots or lower. Right now as soon as the ship starts to move
it pops up. The only side effect is once you stop forward movement the effect stays visible.

Dave,

Here is how to do it. Once you have added the effect make sure to export the model, then reload it. Then open the Hierarchy Editor, click on the AttachedEffect for the Bow. To the right click on
the Visibility Condition and scroll down to "Forward Movement Visibility" and set it. Export the model.

I also changed the effect to the Deltasim KGV spray which is nice as it is effected by the movement of the waves.

Not moving....

Moving....

Joe

**Wings of Gold** · December 12th, 2019, 12:29

Did the destroyer shown come from those in the "Langley" download?

Regards,

Bill

**Butcherbird17** · December 12th, 2019, 12:35

Originally Posted by Wings of Gold

Did the destroyer shown come from those in the "Langley" download?
Regards, Bill

Look for SimOuthouse_USS_CV-41_Midway_1950.zip in the library.

Joe

**Wings of Gold** · December 12th, 2019, 12:39

Thanks Joe,Bill

***wombat666*** · December 12th, 2019, 18:15

Not my usual type but this Lear is better than I expected and is getting quite a lot of air time.

***DaveQ*** · December 13th, 2019, 09:48

Originally Posted by Butcherbird17

Just tested out the visibility condition and changed it in MCX and it works. The part I need to figure out is to get it displaying above 5 knots or lower. Right now as soon as the ship starts to move
it pops up. The only side effect is once you stop forward movement the effect stays visible.

Dave,

Here is how to do it. Once you have added the effect make sure to export the model, then reload it. Then open the Hierarchy Editor, click on the AttachedEffect for the Bow. To the right click on
the Visibility Condition and scroll down to "Forward Movement Visibility" and set it. Export the model.

I also changed the effect to the Deltasim KGV spray which is nice as it is effected by the movement of the waves.

Joe

Many thanks Joe. My first try was with forward movement visibility - didn't work (or so it appeared). Eventually 'stole' some XML code from a modeldef file that worked. I started experimenting in FSX and the problem was more about FSX not displaying as it should in spot view; in P3D it all works fine. I think...

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But they're really lovely boats and look spectacular with bow waves, smoke and wake.

DaveQ

**jeansy** · December 14th, 2019, 03:22

***Navy Chief*** · December 14th, 2019, 04:35

A question: Are these ships objects that you have to manually place in scenery, or are they in a installer package that automatically does so? Thanks, NC

Originally Posted by DaveQ

Many thanks Joe. My first try was with forward movement visibility - didn't work (or so it appeared). Eventually 'stole' some XML code from a modeldef file that worked. I started experimenting in FSX and the problem was more about FSX not displaying as it should in spot view; in P3D it all works fine. I think...

!

But they're really lovely boats and look spectacular with bow waves, smoke and wake.

DaveQ

**aircraft_ozone** · December 14th, 2019, 05:48

***DaveQ*** · December 14th, 2019, 07:07

Originally Posted by Navy Chief

A question: Are these ships objects that you have to manually place in scenery, or are they in a installer package that automatically does so? Thanks, NC

These are AI boats placed in Simobjects/Boats. I use them with 'aicarriers', don't know of any other apps for using AI boats but I guess there may be. I would imagine they could be converted to .bgl objects to place in scenery but they're typically very big models (>10Mb).

DaveQ

***DaveQ*** · December 14th, 2019, 08:26

Joe - if you're still bugged by the wake visibility starting straight away, try adding this visibility condition to the end of the main modeldef file

<PartInfo>
<Name>custom_vis_AIRSPEED_TRUE_20</Name>
<Visibility>
<Parameter>
<Code>
(A:AIRSPEED TRUE,knots) 20 > if{ 1 } els{ 0 }

</Code>
</Parameter>
</Visibility>
</PartInfo>

The ship will not show wake until it exceeds 20 knots. You can alter the speed figure if you want to suit. Then make it the vis. con. for the wake effects.

KMS Bismarck at speed; wake is fx_wake_bow_zu.

DaveQ

***Ferry_vO*** · December 14th, 2019, 13:26

The Flight 1 C421 was my first payware aircraft for FS, we've come a long way since:

**Butcherbird17** · December 14th, 2019, 13:36

Originally Posted by DaveQ

Joe - if you're still bugged by the wake visibility starting straight away, try adding this visibility condition to the end of the main modeldef file.

<PartInfo>
<Name>custom_vis_AIRSPEED_TRUE_20</Name>
<Visibility>
<Parameter>
<Code>
(A:AIRSPEED TRUE,knots) 20 > if{ 1 } els{ 0 }
</Code>
</Parameter>
</Visibility>
</PartInfo>

The ship will not show wake until it exceeds 20 knots. You can alter the speed figure if you want to suit. Then make it the vis. con. for the wake effects.
KMS Bismarck at speed; wake is fx_wake_bow_zu.
DaveQ

Thanks for that Dave. Worked like a charm. I did change to 10knt visibility as I also change the speed from 50 down to 30 in the sim.cfg and when it was
set at 20knt would not show at all. This should also work with the smoke effect. Even better with ships that have 2 or more funnels.

Arizona & Pennsylvania

Joe