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I was wrong. Not VMAQ-2, but VMCJ-2. VMAQ-2s predecessor.Originally Posted by warchild
Found this on an RF-8 site.. Thought some of you might get a chuckle, and some might have memories.. Hope you enjoy..
I was wrong. Not VMAQ-2, but VMCJ-2. VMAQ-2s predecessor.Found this on an RF-8 site.. Thought some of you might get a chuckle, and some might have memories.. Hope you enjoy..
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Nice pic. As composite squadrons J-1 and J-2 flew both photo and EW. Here's a pic from my stash. Back to front: EA-6A, RF-8A, EF-10B, RF-4B.
Bumping this thread folks as it's almost time to start modelling the Vought RF-8G Crusader. I'm working on the Millennium Falcon as a "fun" learning project for sounds and effects, but with the basic model complete and in Pam's hands for the FDE I can continue work on that in the background and start focusing on the Crusader.
Work will begin next week in earnest, but this afternoon I got the airplane set up and started shaping the basic fuselage. Looks absolutely nothing like a 'Sader yet but as I know there's a lot of fans of the type here I thought you'd like to know that work was now underway
I wish I had enough time to finish writing everything I sta...https://www.facebook.com/DC-Designs-2156295428024778/
Outstanding news.
Have lots of ref data if required - pm if you need - if I have it, it's yours.
Regards,
dl
Quick question!
Does the RF-8 in the above photo have a flat belly??
The outline is an F-8E via Vought's own plans - the front shots show the RF-8's flat belly as an addition to the standard shape. I have a separate Vought plan drawing for the RF-8's nose outline and other details. Just getting the basic shape down right now.
Much appreciated DL!
Thanks Dean! Thats what i thought.. I'll catch you on discord sometime after you have the fuselage laid out. I'm going to need some measurements i dont have on the flat area. Specifically the two thin strips that werent part of the original fuselage.. Notice in the top picture how the rf-8 is in formation and slightly nose high?? He's trimmed right for level flight, so, yeah.. I need to do some homework..
Very nice! After your superb work with the Reporter and Black Widow, I'm sure this will be an excellent addition to the hangar!
Thanks! Amazing what a couple of hours' spent smoothing out the geometry can achieve - much more like it should be now. A few more hours on it and I should be ready to start plotting out Boolean cuts and splitting polys for undercarriage bays and camera openings. The Crusader sure had an unusual shape!
Sorry for the long wait for an update folks. Real life work has kept me away from this project, and I wanted to get the Millennium Falcon finished for Pam ( Warchild ) even though it was just a for-fun project.
Some work done, mostly cleaning up, cutting out and adding the basic canopy and frames etc, wing built and general shaping underway. I'll update here now and again as progress continues
Thanks for the great update!
As per my pm of a few months back, let me know if you need anything by way of materials. I lost a bunch in a big move since the Alphasim / Carl Edwards F-8 days, alas, but what I have is still available for you.
Nice you're doing the G, as it had more longevity than the A. Not that anyone should begrudge you doing either. That we're seeing a photo-Crusader is massive "pinch me to make sure this is real!" material.
The wing "hump" looks a hair too pronounced - dead on for the fighter "E" model, but the RF was milder. Early shots, I know, I'm sure you'll get there.
For the nose, being the small version, and not a tall oval (not a perfect circle) in cross section, these might help:
http://www.vfp62.com/IMAGES_11/RF8_pics/RF8_146898.jpg
http://www.vfp62.com/IMAGES/youngblood.jpg
http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/...0_13_of_30.jpg
http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/...0_14_of_30.jpg
https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraf...rf-8g_81.shtml
Have more at home - this is just a quick search online.
Take your time, this will be worth the wait. My oldest daughter (12 y.o) is stoked about the Falcon, so you've got fans cheering you on in our family!
dl
Wow, I hope the Falcon lives up to your daughter's expectations! So cool to know that there are fans of my work out there, especially children, makes me feel young again!Thanks for the great update!
Take your time, this will be worth the wait. My oldest daughter (12 y.o) is stoked about the Falcon, so you've got fans cheering you on in our family!
dl
Thanks for the images and the offer. I'm collating data as I go along. I did consider buying a professional mesh, as per Alphasim's ( now-freeware ) F-8 offering, but none of them are quite accurate in shape for the RF-8G and use about 40x more polygons than is necessary, so I'm working from scratch. The shape's a tricky one for sure, it looks simple enough at first glance but then when you get into the nitty-gritty it's got curves all over the place. Still, it's coming along nicely with a clean mesh so I'm happy enough. I reckon a couple of weeks worth of work to get the fuselage finished off, then it's onto wings, wheels and extraneous bits and bobs.
2048 x 2048 textures all over planned for this bird, with the fuselage maps split half-way to double the resolution. The great thing about 'Saders is that they carried so many colour schemes, so there are repaint options galore with this one, a nice change from the Widow's and Reporter's limited options.
I suspect the transition from the rounded shape of the fuselage to the flat sides and bottom of the camera bay area will be a challenge. Fortunately there are a lot of RF-8 pics online that show that area at different angles. I did two tours in VFP-63 and have shipmates who know the airplane inside and out. If I can be of any assistance by all means contact me.
Thanks!! I just found the VFP-62 web page with lots of stuff in it, but it would be awesome to know how the RF-8 Crusader handled in terms of rate of roll, pitch, general flight characteristics etc as I'm having trouble finding anything along those lines.I suspect the transition from the rounded shape of the fuselage to the flat sides and bottom of the camera bay area will be a challenge. Fortunately there are a lot of RF-8 pics online that show that area at different angles. I did two tours in VFP-63 and have shipmates who know the airplane inside and out. If I can be of any assistance by all means contact me.
Speaking of lines, moving from the rounded fuselage to the square edged photo-section and then onto the intake has indeed been a vertex-shifting challenge but I've got it roughly about right. Just fiddling ( endlessly ) with the shaping at the moment...
It was a big beast Dean. Roll rate was around 60 degrees per second. Pitch rate not so good. The F-8 was the product of missile brained thinking. This thing could go supersonic, in the vertical plane, but it couldnt outturn a mig 17. Youtube is going to be your friend here. Match the roll and pitch rates in the videos and youll at least be close..
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...y=f-8+crusader
I'll try to get some comments for you from the guys who flew them.
UPDATE: The general fuselage shape is about right now, hard work to get it to go from rounded to sharp-edged and back to rounded again without polygon shadowing issues but it's looking better now. Did some work building the canopy and windshield from scratch using a professional payware mesh as a guide. Now tackling the tricky wings, which have many unusual joins and of course the famous lifting-wing section. It's a good polygon-wrangling epic for me, and a lot more work to get right than I'd anticipated at first glance.
Once the port wing is done, it'll of course be replicated and mirrored on the starboard side. I've not used Booleans for anything yet, building everything manually to keep those poly counts low and the mesh as clean as I can. More updates to follow as time allows, getting close to Christmas so spending a lot of time advertising all my books as well as writing the things!
That's looking awesome, Dean!
BTW, your website is currently down, but I was perusing your books on Amazon. You have my genres nailed -- trying to decide whether to start with Altitude or one of the SF series. Can't wait to dive in!
Thanks Denny, and also for the heads' up about my signature link! I've updated my signature - the website's fine, the sig was just pointing to an out-dated address.
Hope you enjoy the books!
Interesting Vid, When Phil Woods plane landed that day on Kitty Hawk, I was one of two ordnance men from the squadron Phil Wood was in (VF-24) and helo'd (SH-2) from Bon Homme Richard to Kitty Hawk
as we had to remove the sidewinder rails from that plane; We were short of parts. I helped load VF-24 planes with winders/20MM that day that also ended in a 5 Mig kills for VF-24. Long time ago....
We had F-8C's our sister F-8 Sqd. (VF-211) had F-8E's - they had hard points under the wings and could carry one bomb (up to 2,000 lb) under each wing.
Last edited by gray eagle; December 12th, 2018 at 15:08.
Any updates on this? NC
Work continues apace Chief! Nothing major to report though so I've just been plugging away. Fuselage is complete, tail fin and tailerons in place, currently working on the "lifting wing" section before joining to the main wings and cleaning up.
I don't think there will be anything fun to share really until New Year, it's all just polygon wrangling at the moment. Once she's sitting on her wheels I will begin texture maps etc, so there should be something to show off sometime in January
Dean, check your PM box.
Done! Awesome news, thanks so much!Dean, check your PM box.
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