Wind in weather xmls

[mongoose]

I am looking at the jet stream in weather. It was a big factor in some BC raids and threw the bombers off course considerably. Now I see weather has speed (? m/s?) and direction, but I don't see any height indications. Are there any or can that be added?
Also looking at setting local weather boxes, I assume this is done independent of the missions builder which can only be used to indicate the parameters which are then entered into the weather xml?

[MajorMagee]

You can create weather objects that have geographic bounds set. In the case of a mission that needs a jet stream, you could create a long narrow East-West rectangle that has the high speed confined within it. In this example you would have a squall line spread from Amsterdam to Berlin with 150 mph winds blowing out of the west. In testing this the winds don't seem to be continuous like the jet stream.

<Weather Name="Wind Test Mission Weather">
<BackgroundWeather precipType="HeavyRain" skyboxCloudType="BrokenClouds" MaxAltitude="2800" MinAltitude="-100" fogColor="4288332017" Windspeed="0" windDir="0">
<CloudLayer cloudfile="cloudCumulusSmall.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="40000" CloudCount="36" Lightning="noLightning" MinAltitude="600" MaxAltitude="800" fogColor="4288332017"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="cloudFog.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="15000" CloudCount="85" Lightning="noLightning" MinAltitude="600" MaxAltitude="800" fogColor="4288332017"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="CloudCumuloStratus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="20000" CloudCount="45" Lightning="noLightning" MinAltitude="800" MaxAltitude="1200" fogColor="4288332017"/>
</BackgroundWeather>
<WeatherObject precipType="HeavyRain" MaxAltitude="2800" MinAltitude="-100" Windspeed="66" windDir="270">
<Bounds>
<Point Lat="N52 00" Lon="E4 30"/>
<Point Lat="N52 30" Lon="E4 30"/>
<Point Lat="N52 30" Lon="E14 30"/>
<Point Lat="N52 00" Lon="E14 30"/>
</Bounds>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="CloudCumuloNimbus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="40000" CloudCount="40" Lightning="Thunderstorm" MinAltitude="1900" MaxAltitude="1900" fogColor="3368601800"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="cloudCumulusCongestus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="40000" CloudCount="30" Lightning="Thunderstorm" MinAltitude="1900" MaxAltitude="1900" fogColor="3368601800"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="CloudCumuloStratus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="30000" CloudCount="30" Lightning="noLightning" MinAltitude="1200" MaxAltitude="1600" fogColor="3368601800"/>
</WeatherObject>
</Weather>

[gecko]

Do the min and Max altitudes for the weather object work to limit the winds to a specific altitude range?

[MajorMagee]

Not as far as I could tell during my experimenting.

[gecko]

Too bad, that would have been a nice feature.

[mongoose]

Too bad, that would have been a nice feature.

Yeah! That was sort of what I was after.


What units are speed and altitude in?

Then, looking at the xml set up

I note they start (after name) with "<BackgroundWeather" and end (for that section) with "</BackgroundWeather>"
Is that weather at the starting (and ending) point(s)?

Looking at other weather xmls, some put the ending "<Bounds>" after the coordinates and some after the relevant weather. Does that matter?

What does "</WeatherObject>" do? You can see I am not a programmer! More "monkey see monkey do"!

[MajorMagee]

I'm just experimenting without any direct knowledge.

The speed appears to be in m/sec as my airspeed jumps about 150 mph when a gust happens and the xml says 66.

The altitude doesn't seem to do anything, so I couldn't verify the units, but my guess would have been meters.

[mongoose]

As a matter of interest, how did you input altitude for wind?

My mission builder dosn't like either

<WeatherObject precipType="HeavyRain" MaxAltitude="2800" MinAltitude="-100" Windspeed="66" windDir="270" MaxAltitude="10000" MinAltitude="6000">

or separating the wind out as in

<WeatherObject precipType="HeavyRain" MaxAltitude="2800" MinAltitude="-100" >
<Bounds>
<Point Lat="N53 40" Lon="E5 00"/>
<Point Lat="N53 00" Lon="E14 00"/>
<Point Lat="N52 00" Lon="E5 00"/>
<Point Lat="N51 00" Lon="E14 30"/>
</Bounds>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="CloudCumuloNimbus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="40000" CloudCount="40" Lightning="Thunderstorm" MinAltitude="1900" MaxAltitude="1900" fogColor="3368601800"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="cloudCumulusCongestus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="40000" CloudCount="30" Lightning="Thunderstorm" MinAltitude="1900" MaxAltitude="1900" fogColor="3368601800"/>
<CloudLayer cloudfile="CloudCumuloStratus.xml" CloudType="ScatteredClouds" CloudRadius="30000" CloudCount="30" Lightning="noLightning" MinAltitude="1200" MaxAltitude="1600" fogColor="3368601800"/>
</WeatherObject>
<WeatherObject Windspeed="66" windDir="270" MinAltitude="6000" MaxAltitude="10000">
<Bounds>
<Point Lat="N53 40" Lon="E5 00"/>
<Point Lat="N53 00" Lon="E14 00"/>
<Point Lat="N52 00" Lon="E5 00"/>
<Point Lat="N51 00" Lon="E14 30"/>
</Bounds>
</WeatherObject>

[MajorMagee]

I've never tried the mission builder. I was just typing in a text editor, and trying it out in a Quick Combat.

[mongoose]

I think CFS3 in general didn't like my xml choices. With the first I got an error message line 7 (which was the line in above post) duplicate attribute

With the second more complicated version, CFS3 shut down when I tried to save the mission.

What exactly did you put?

[mongoose]

Further re weather; a reminder of where to get historical info. I don't see jet stream info but isobars give some rough ideas of lower level likely wind; and weather!

Original
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/reanaly...p=1&model=noaa

Translate

https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

I doubt old jet stream weather is easily available as no one really knew about it.


EDIT Also just found this

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.u...-a7d8c3eceb84/