Hms queen elizabeth

**CIMOGT** · January 10th, 2018, 18:50

First test of the model in the sim, testing the animation of the doors, elevators, info screens , lights and others

https://youtu.be/x5gUp7pkJag

**gp183601** · January 11th, 2018, 00:35

That's a top model you've created there matey!

Gaz

**simondix** · January 11th, 2018, 01:29

Probably works better than the real thing and doesn't leak either.

**IFlySWA** · January 11th, 2018, 05:07

Looks great!

Brian

**gp183601** · January 11th, 2018, 09:59

Originally Posted by simondix

Probably works better than the real thing and doesn't leak either.

Looking under the hull of most virtual ships there's a helluva lot more water sloshing around the empty hull than Lizzie!

I love the UK press - 'new warship leak shock horror!'....I've yet to come across any ship which doesn't suffer a propeller shaft seal leak from time to time. It's not the easiest to seal and maintain a turning steel shaft that exits the hull directly into the ocean.

200 litres and hour? My garden pond pump can handle more than that!!

Best
Gaz

**speedy70** · January 11th, 2018, 10:26

I agree with you completely.

In most vessels leakage around the stern gland is part of the shaft cooling system.there are not many dry glands.

I believe the Queen Elizabeth has a pneumatic gland shaft seal.

Cheers Chris
PS As far as the medias knowledge of ships the most annoying thing to me is the use of their expression the HMS Whatever.

HMS stands for her majesty's ship so you cannot say "The her majesty's ship ----

Cheers Chris

**Paul K** · January 17th, 2018, 13:35

Originally Posted by speedy70

I agree with you completely.

In most vessels leakage around the stern gland is part of the shaft cooling system.there are not many dry glands.

I believe the Queen Elizabeth has a pneumatic gland shaft seal.

Cheers Chris
PS As far as the medias knowledge of ships the most annoying thing to me is the use of their expression the HMS Whatever.

HMS stands for her majesty's ship so you cannot say "The her majesty's ship ----

Cheers Chris

Chris, you might be referring to the old wood shaft bearings. They employed staves of a very hard wood called lignum vitae which supported the tail shaft between the propeller and the engine room. Sea water, as a lubricant, was allowed to flow past the gland into a bilge-well in the engine room, from where it was pumped overboard. Lignum vitae bearings were largely replaced by oil-filled white metal stern bearings in the 1970s and 80s. The seal at each end of the tail shaft was effected by sets of O-rings, with a small oil header tank in the engine room which maintained the oil pressure and so prevented the ingress of seawater. I was an engineer on a ship that had this conversion work done in dry-dock in Cardiff in 1976, and it was interesting to be involved in it.

Just lately, I see that a return to seawater lubricated bearings is contemplated, though it is unclear to me whether lignum vitae would once again be utilised. I'd like to see details of HMS Queen Elizabeth's arrangements.

And you're right...it's HMS, not the HMS :O)

**Naismith** · January 11th, 2018, 10:35

Originally Posted by gp183601

Looking under the hull of most virtual ships there's a helluva lot more water sloshing around the empty hull than Lizzie!

I love the UK press - 'new warship leak shock horror!'....I've yet to come across any ship which doesn't suffer a propeller shaft seal leak from time to time. It's not the easiest to seal and maintain a turning steel shaft that exits the hull directly into the ocean.

200 litres and hour? My garden pond pump can handle more than that!!

Best
Gaz

Lemme guess..... Daily Mail? The great spreader of misinformation, negativity and downright lies.

**Tako_Kichi** · January 11th, 2018, 11:06

There's a reason it's now known as the Daily Fail!

It used to be a respectable newspaper 25+ years ago and I was a regular reader of it's Sunday edition (The Mail on Sunday) when I still lived in the UK, mostly for the usually informative colour supplement and the comics section.

It has gone drastically down-hill over the years and now resides firmly among the 'gutter press'.

**Ganter** · February 14th, 2018, 00:05

Originally Posted by gp183601

Looking under the hull of most virtual ships there's a helluva lot more water sloshing around the empty hull than Lizzie!

I love the UK press - 'new warship leak shock horror!'....I've yet to come across any ship which doesn't suffer a propeller shaft seal leak from time to time. It's not the easiest to seal and maintain a turning steel shaft that exits the hull directly into the ocean.

200 litres and hour? My garden pond pump can handle more than that!!

Best
Gaz

In my experience in journalism and media "Ship Experts" are as ill-informed and arrogant as so called "Aviation Experts" who are rolled out and put on our screens after an air accident.

**emfrat** · February 14th, 2018, 01:05

As I recall, when the design was confirmed, it was announced that the carrier would be based at Plymouth, not Pompey, which caused a small uproar. The print media quickly explained that this was because the new design " did not have sufficient draught to navigate the Solent "

MikeW