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[Joap]

I quess I posted this thread at the wrong place, so I'll try it here once more.

I fly the C-47 Beta_V3.12 with out any problem, but like to upgrade to the V3.14, have dowloaded and installed it, but there is a problem with the instrument panel, I cant see the instruments there is like a curtain blocking the panel view, any idear some body??

Regards

Joap

[MrZippy]

Any chance you can post a screenshot of what you see?

[Joap]

Mr Zippy,

Its not eazy to attach the screen shot, but I hope you could see them.

Joap

[MrZippy]

OK, got a good look Viewer will see this po pix. Are these daytime or night shots of the cockpit? For me to try the latest update will take at least 6 more days until I'm back on my Sim computer. It almost looks like a missing panel.BMP.

Maybe Manfred or Jan Visser will see this thread and offer advice.

[Joap]

daytime, trying so send you another one, this if Ican see the pane ??

[PeteHam]

Try adjusting the view point with the key's - Ctrl, Shift, Enter , maybe the viewing point is too high.

Pete.

[ncooper]

Hello,

you will find the eyepoint setting inside the aircraft.cfg file.
The correct setting is

[views]
eyepoint = -6.50, -1.40, 3.0

This has remain unchanged thoughout the model updates.

Undoubtedly, yours is either incorrect or is being amended by some
software that allows the eyepoint to move.
The "curtain" you see is because your eyepoint is inside a part of the model.

The best way to update the aircraft is to remove the existing version from the simobjects folder altogether
and then replace it with the new one.
If you have just merged them, this could cause this kind of problem.

[Joap]

Thank you Gentleman for your advice, I did exactly what you both sugested, but no joy, Nick there was a little diference in views –6.50, was –6.40, otherwise no difference.
I also removed the aircraft completely and dowloaded and re-insalled it, I am thinking of re-installing FSX don’t know if that will help, I may have problem with registering ? Any more advice would be appreciated.
Kind regards.
Joap

[Javis]

Originally Posted by Joap
Thank you Jan for replying, ( Ja ik ben Nederlander )

Aha, Ok !

You will not get any help from the F keys for your problem, Joop, the Ctrl/Shift/Enter/Back combo keys are your friends. ( using the Hat switch on your Saitek Yoke does not *move* you about, you just move 'your head', looking sideways and up/down ).

Take the screenshot in your post above: it's like you are standing up instead of sitting down in the pilot seat. All you'd have to do really is sit down..... You do that by pushing the Shift/Back key combo. (keep the Shift key pushed in with your thumb while tapping the Back key with your middle finger until the view is about right, i.e. you can see the top of the VOR1 gauge. You are probabely looking down onto the rudder pedals now so use your Hat switch to move 'your head' to look out the windscreen. You should be sitting pretty now.

Btw, this of course not something you'd want to do every time you fly your C-47. You can set your preferred default view in the [views] section of the aircraft.cfg as also described in other posts above.

Just out of curiosity, can you post the current params in the [views] section of your C-47 aircraft.cfg ?

Mine are :

[views]
eyepoint = -6.40, -1.40, 3.0

Not sure anymore but i believe they might be default....

Btw(2) understand about 'Joap' now.... Hehe Funny thing is that you could've just left it Joop because in English that's exactly like you want it to be pronounced ( i.e. 'Joep' (in dutch), like English 'boot' , 'foot' , etc.). With 'Joap' you're actually back at square one, in English it is pronouncd as your dutch 'Joop' ... Like English 'load', 'boat' etc., i.e. two 'oo's in dutch.. (sorry for this lecture in English literature.. )

groeten,
jan

[Joap]

Dankje Jan,

I’m getting a feeling that my download is screwed up Jan, have a look at the screen shot of the troop ship, that doesent look right at all ??

Well anyway I used Shift/Backspace as sugested and the best I can get of the panel you can see on the sceen shot here .

I wonder if there is another site were I can download? The 3.14, I have deleted, and re-downloaded from here already, any sugestions ?

I wonder if there was way that you can login to my computer and have look your self Jan??
The eyepont views is exactly as is here eyepoint = -6.40, -1.40, 3.0

Anyway thank you for the English lecture.

Groetjes
Joop

[Joap]

Just dowloaded from AVSIM, and re-install, no change at all.

Joap

[Javis]

I wonder if there is a way to contact Manfred Jahn or Jan Visser??

No problem, Joap ( i know Joop and i know Jaap, Joap all new to me. You're not dutch, are you ?... ;-)

I can't think of anything else either than the boys above already explained ..... ( in your screenshots the POV (Point Of View) is way *above* the pilot seat. The black area that you see in your first screenie belongs to the outer 'shell' that completely engulves the VC to aid with the lighting of the VC )

Are you familiar already with how to move about in an FSX internal aircraft model like a cockpit or cabin ?

Can you tell us what happens when you are inside the VC and keep the Ctrl key *plus* the Enter key of your keyboard pushed in ?.....

Also try to keep the Shift key *plus* Enter key pushed in and tell us what exactly you see happening in your C-47 VC.

Cheers,
Jan

[Joap]

Thank you Jan for replying, ( Ja ik ben Nederlander )

I made a screen shot, hope that you can see it, this is what I see of the panel some times. I think I mentioned this already.

Moving about in the cockpit, I use the hat switch of the Sitek yoke, anyway pressing Ctl key + Enter, and Shift key + Enter I would be moving up or moving down, with the F keys 9…12 I would be behind the left seat or see the left or right engine.

I hope that I made my self understable. Btw Joap is my nick name, Joop is my name, but pronounce in English sounds like Joep ?? if you understand what I mean.
Kind regards

Joap

[MrZippy]

Hi! Now that I'm back on my Sim computer I thought I'd check on my v.3.14 C-47. My startup screen is the 2D panel so I normally hit the A key to bring up
the VC. I then hit the minus key about three times to move the eyepoint back and then the spacebar+mouse to lower the eyepoint.

[MrZippy]

I just noticed that the paratrooper panels have a picture of Rosie the Riveter. My panel for my Buffalo Airways had a pic of Marilyn. (probably a v3.12 repaint).

[Joap]

No Nick I have no other programs running, have tried almost every thing now, but no joy, it's getting to be frustrating.

I cant imagine that FSX is causing the problem, but that's the only option left, the only thing that's holding me from deleting and re-installing FSX is the problem with registering.

The funny thing is flying the V3.12, or any other aircraft I have no problem with FSX.

Regards Joop

[Roger]

Just a thought, Joop, you have FsX with Acceleration or FsX with SP1 and SP2?

[MrZippy]

This is maybe something I forgot to ask, and I don't see any info on it so far....Are you running FSX with SP1 and 2, FSX+ Acceleration, or FSX-SE?

OK...OK! so I'm not as quick on the keyboard as Roger!

[Joap]

Fsx sp1 sp2

[MrZippy]

Fsx sp1 sp2

You have the same as I have! What is your start screen? Do your flights start in the 2D cockpit or the VC?

Under FSX/Settings/Customize/Aircraft do you have a checkmark in "Show High Resolution 3D cockpit"?

[Joap]

Done that Mr,Zippy, no change, I wonder if Win10 could be the problem??, have mentioned this before, win7 was no problem with the 3.14.

I'm thinking of re-installing Win7 on my extra HD and install it in the computer, then re-installing FSX, and hope that, that would be the solution, what do you think???.

I afraid that activating FSX could be a problem, and that is holding me from doing this.

regard
Joop

[MrZippy]

Done that Mr,Zippy, no change, I wonder if Win10 could be the problem??, have mentioned this before, win7 was no problem with the 3.14.

I'm thinking of re-installing Win7 on my extra HD and install it in the computer, then re-installing FSX, and hope that, that would be the solution, what do you think???.

I afraid that activating FSX could be a problem, and that is holding me from doing this.

regard
Joop

Unknown....I use WinXP and have no problems with updates or any nonsense.

[ncooper]

Hello Joop,
may I assure you that your Windows version has nothing to do with this
and you would be wasting your time.
For me, the VC works perfectly under Windows 10 and both FSX and P3D v4.

I am at a loss as to how or why you cannot move your eyepoint to somewhere
sensible after all the advice that you have been given.

If you wish to install something, do it to FSX which may well be broken.

You have no need to uninstall it.
Instead, do this:

1. rename your FSX root folder.
2. create a new empty folder with exactly the same name and in exactly the same place.
3. using your FSX DVDs, run the repair for FSX and then install the service packs.

Now you will have a new and untarnished version of FSX.
Delete your fsx.cfg file, copy your newly downloaded C47 into the airplanes folder and try it before
you do anything else to FSX.