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    Wishing...

    ... some developer would do a state of the art Bf 109e.

    Sigh.....

    Cees

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    I second that wish Cees, a Bf-109E would be fantastic. In fact the G and K models would do nicely.
    Regards, Tom Stovall KRDD


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    Yep! I sure would like one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stovall View Post
    I second that wish Cees, a Bf-109E would be fantastic. In fact the G and K models would do nicely.
    Tom,

    There is already a great K model! Flight Replicas did one.



    Cees

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    Indeed !






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    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    Tom,

    There is already a great K model! Flight Replicas did one.



    Cees
    Yep, definitely own this beauty. I guess I was thinking about upgrading to P3D and especially P3D v4. I also love the P-40N from Flight Replica.
    Regards, Tom Stovall KRDD


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    The Emil is my favourite model and I still enjoy A2A´s version with FSX, but I´d also rather have something with a little more up to date touch. Maybe something like this (which is a blast, but a completely different story...)







    But an even bigger wish for me would be a 109B (Berta). I always felt the later versions looked completely overdeveloped like on steroids:-)

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    No more Nazi aircraft. We need a good B-24.
    Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

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    I have the JustFlight "Battle of Britain - Me 109" and quite like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blanston12 View Post
    I have the JustFlight "Battle of Britain - Me 109" and quite like it.
    That's the last one developed for FSX, and it is from 2010, seven years old.

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    Early Bf-109s?! Real Messerschmitts have CURVES!


    (And covers, but you get my point.)




    Curvy Messerschmitts also have friends!





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    or Buchon will be great....and two seat Spitfire as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Early Bf-109s?! Real Messerschmitts have CURVES!


    (And covers, but you get my point.)




    Curvy Messerschmitts also have friends!




    Where is this Bjoern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbed View Post
    or Buchon will be great...
    No, a Buchon is an ugly hybrid. Like these motorbikes with a Chevy V8 bolted on, ugh. I’ve seen Buchons display and a Gustav at the same time: it was like a greyhound among pigs.
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    Even though I have a weak spot for the buchon (grew up with this "battle of britain" movie), the upright Merlin just wasn´t made for the wonderful outlines of the BF109. In this ccase I do still prefer the F series. No bulges, just plain elegant lines.

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    Another vote for a Buchon.

    (Yes please Mike/FR!)

    I've never understood the dislike, disgust, and general distaste shown by many for it.

    After all, it's only a 109G-2 airframe, built under licence to the requirements of the Spanish AF, and which happened to have been fitted with a different engine!

    And great performance as well, with a reported 5,580 ft/min initial rate of climb at +18lbs boost, plus a top speed of around 420 mph at around 14000 ft.

    (I'd love Mike to update his 109F/G models to FSX native too).

    Cheers

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    A B-1 or a D-1, with the Jumo engine....



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    Messerschmitt Bf-109D

    Hallo Cees,

    there was once a Bf-109D done by Corrado la Posta with a specific panel done by me.
    I was done for CFS2 - but should also fly in FS9.
    It is at flightsim.com - i4109d26.zip
    It is old ! It is from 10-11-2001

    Yours
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    Greetings-
    I would have to agree that a 109B/C/D would be nice, or even a package that covered some of the prototypes and early marks...
    To Bradburger's question about why all the hate for the Buchon... for me, it's pure aesthetics... that upright v12 nose on that airframe just isn't right somehow... for example, the transplanted Jumo engine on the Avia fighters doesn't look as out of place...
    But, hey- the Buchon couldn't have been that bad... look at how long Spain kept them in service!
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    Buchon

    Hallo,
    in french one say "colors and likings can not to be discused"
    So the estethic of a buchon hmmm
    Perhaps in flightsim it is not very much liked due to it's critical behavior as real bird.
    Very much non sense was written on the 109, all based on the behavior of the Buchon, without respecting why things was as they was.
    At first the spanish license builder of the 109 had to find a replacement for the original DB 605 engine.
    This engine had clockwise rotation.
    As replacement they tryed to fit the Hispano-Suizza engine,
    this engine turen counter clockwise.
    So the spanish changed the vertical tail and rudder profile to match the oposite rotation of the engine.
    later they adopted the Merlin engine, this one turned as same as the DB605 clockwise
    But they did not change the vertical tail rudder profile
    So the airflow at the end of the plane was completly wrong.
    You can imagine that in start or landing situation this causes some trouble.
    This lead to make the reputation of the 109 much more bad as the original was.
    The 109 was certainly not an easy bird, more as said Adolf Galland as a race horse which needed to be respected

    Yours Papi

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    Hallo Cees,

    there was once a Bf-109D done by Corrado la Posta with a specific panel done by me.
    I was done for CFS2 - but should also fly in FS9.
    It is at flightsim.com - i4109d26.zip
    It is old ! It is from 10-11-2001

    Yours
    Papi
    I know Papi, I flew that one in the sim!



    Cees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    Where is this Bjoern?
    Messerschmitt-Museum. Got a pretty exclusive tour of it (it wasn't long enough and I wasn't allowed to sit in a cut off Bf-109 cockpit section though).
    All aircraft shown except the model hanging from the ceiling and the HA-300 next to it are (or will be) flyable. Saw the HA-200 (not shown) fly in the area once in a while throughout the summer. The Me-163 apparently flew once as a glider and the 109 and 262 are familiar faces to airshow attendees. The 108 has been stripped down to the fuselage and is undergoing major restauration.

    As to why I got the tour in the first place...well, it's classified.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bradburger View Post
    I've never understood the dislike, disgust, and general distaste shown by many for it.
    Have you SEEN that thing? The 109G wasn't the most beautiful pick of the litter with its fixed tail wheel, bulges and old canopy until the G-6/AS and G-14, but CASA totally raped what little beauty the airframe had left with those bloody ugly box of an engine and the flimsy prop to go with it. If it's got to be a non-DB60x version, give me the "Mule" (S-99) any day over this aesthetical atrocity!


    P.S:
    The Spaniards only kept them that long because the country was politically isolated until the late 50s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    A B-1 or a D-1, with the Jumo engine....



    Cees
    I'm sure you must be aware A.F.Scrub did a B and D messerschmitt_bf109b-d.zip which looks nice (I'm no Bf expert) flies OK buy very twitchy on the ground. I neutered the rudder to stop it falling over. It's from 2012 and would benefit from a makeover from some clever person.

    I have't read evry word of this thread so if I missed mention of it I apologise,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naismith View Post
    I'm sure you must be aware A.F.Scrub did a B and D messerschmitt_bf109b-d.zip which looks nice (I'm no Bf expert) flies OK buy very twitchy on the ground. I neutered the rudder to stop it falling over. It's from 2012 and would benefit from a makeover from some clever person.

    I have't read evry word of this thread so if I missed mention of it I apologise,
    Thanks for the suggestion. But would you classify these as 'state of the art' addons?

    I don't think I've kept a plane from A.F Scrub beyond the first flight.


    I don't bother to even look nowadays.

    Cees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. But would you classify these as 'state of the art' addons?

    I don't think I've kept a plane from A.F Scrub beyond the first flight.


    I don't bother to even look nowadays.

    Cees
    Oops! AF scrub will be happy to read that.

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