W10 upgrade today

[Naismith]

Seems like the entire W10 was replaced I have a windows .old directory at 27Gb sitting there now on a diminishing SSD

Now the checking of settings begins

[Cirrus N210MS]

seems like microsoft is having so many updates

[Crusader]

Pretty bad experience so far with the new Windows upgrade . When I went into Settings and clicked Check for Windows Update and about half way through the installation and a few restarts a blue screen popped up saying " an error occurred with installation " ( or something similar to this ) . "Restoring previous version of Windows ." After a few more restarts and Desktop pops up and all is back to where I started with all programs working . Getting a Stop code error on the Blue screen I received

Rich

[Crusader]

How do you stop Windows Update from trying to install 1709 every time PC is rebooted ?

[paiken]

How do you stop Windows Update from trying to install 1709 every time PC is rebooted ?

Your best bet, according to my son (a former Microsoft employee), is to install a Linux based OS capable of running windows based programs. He mentioned a couple to me but I didn't write them down. If you'd like, I can ask him again for his best recommendation. According to him...EVERYTHING on W10 is now an App, not necessarily able to work well with other parts of the OS. He spent most of his time there trying to fix his particular portion of the OS to work as it was designed and that other parts of the OS caused issues with. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I'm seriously considering the move myself on a dual boot drive.

[Ivan]

On the older systems (I am on Windows 8.1, but Daughter is on Windows 10) I changed settings to download all Windows updates but no Optional updates. I also set it to download but I choose when to install which seems to work fairly well though I have not checked on Daughter's W 10 in a while. We actually have running versions of Windows dating back to W98.

- Ivan.

[Crusader]

Thanks Ivan for the reply . I'll nose around Microsoft and a few of the flight sim forums to see if anyone else has experienced this problem(I'm sure they have as many people have voiced their opinion on how much they hate Windows 10 updating)

Rich

[Ivan]

Hello Crusader,

I have also noticed quite a few updates within the last two weeks or so.
Sometime there are multiples in one day.

Although my settings are to always download but only install when I choose, it appears that my Windows Module Installer is sometimes running even though I have not chosen to do anything.
It appears that with my settings, installations requiring a reboot will wait for my input but ones that do not will automatically install.
I can tell because when the CPU or memory starts loading up (past about 30% or so) the cooling fan starts running very fast and exhaust gets pretty hot.
The Module Installer tends to run CPU up to about 35% or so.

I am describing a Laptop with 16GB memory and Intel Core i7-4710MQ with base frequency of 2.5 GHz and 3.5 GHz Turbo frequency. In theory, it should hit 3.5 GHz, but I have never seen it above 3.4 GHz.

I am playing with a numerical program that MIGHT be able to max out the processor but I have to remove a lot of the I/O to make that happen.

- Ivan.

[Crusader]

On the older systems (I am on Windows 8.1, but Daughter is on Windows 10) I changed settings to download all Windows updates but no Optional updates. I also set it to download but I choose when to install which seems to work fairly well though I have not checked on Daughter's W 10 in a while. We actually have running versions of Windows dating back to W98.

- Ivan.

I did get into the settings and changed to only updates to keep it running smoothly and no optional updates as you mentioned . at least it quit trying to install the new Fall Update 1709 (or whatever they call it) every time I rebooted the PC . . This is actually the first major Win 10 Update problem I've had . From the previous thread I read it must be like getting a whole new Win upgrade(and not an update) . It sure does not like my PC

Rich

[Penzoil3]

Tell windows that your Internet connection is metered. It won't download anything on a metered connection.
Sue

[sixstrings5859]

Sticking with Win 7 64 bit. No problems with my sims and all runs smoothly. Maybe Win 11 will be better than the current garbage called Win 10!!

[Crusader]

Tell windows that your Internet connection is metered. It won't download anything on a metered connection.
Sue

Thanks for the info , changed to metered too .

Rich

[Navy Chief]

Only problem I noticed with the latest Win 10 update is that when I click on the Windows Home button, nothing happens. If I right click on the Windows Home button, I am able access apps, but the previous display available is gone. Have tried several online suggested fixes, but no joy. NC

[Bradburger]

Only problem I noticed with the latest Win 10 update is that when I click on the Windows Home button, nothing happens. If I right click on the Windows Home button, I am able access apps, but the previous display available is gone. Have tried several online suggested fixes, but no joy. NC

NC,

I got exactly the same issue after the update last night.

Turns out this is a problem that has affected quite a few people, and they aren't to happy!

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport...tart_menu_and/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...rribly_broken/

A temporary fix is after you have booted up, log out and then log back in again.

(I tried it, and to my surprise, it worked).

Hope MS come up with a fix for this issue ASAP!

Cheers

Paul

[Bradburger]

Ok, so now in FSX, I get a message 'Error creating child window' and the sim crashes.

Also, ASN16 will not launch, along with some other applications.

(Well, they give the impression they have, but don't!)

I'm not sure what has happened with this latest update, but getting a bit pissed off at the moment having to do fixes and workarounds.

(An update to Avast the other week buggered up my scheduled tasks because of some issue if Game Mode was on).

Cheers

Paul

[Crusader]

I have come to the conclusion that Microsoft can stick the " Fall Upgrade " where the sun doesn't shine . Don't intend to even attempt another Fall Upgrade as I've failed three times previously . I'm sticking with my previous version and not interested in the " new Fall 1709 version " . All sims and Windows 10 stuff working on older version as it did before . As someone mentioned . Maybe Windows 11 will bring us all something we can all work with .

Rich

[HyFlyer]

Only problem I noticed with the latest Win 10 update is that when I click on the Windows Home button, nothing happens. If I right click on the Windows Home button, I am able access apps, but the previous display available is gone. Have tried several online suggested fixes, but no joy. NC

I had this for a while, but after having windows run a compatibility check, it identified an app or two it didn't like, and when those were removed/replaced windows went back to behaving normally again.

[Bradburger]

I had this for a while, but after having windows run a compatibility check, it identified an app or two it didn't like, and when those were removed/replaced windows went back to behaving normally again.

Interesting HyFlyer.

I just ran the compatibility checker on ASN16 & ASN Cloud Art, which changed it to Windows 8 compatibility, and they both now work!

But one has to ask why is this so, as these are new programs developed for Windows 10 and worked fine before the CFU?

(It's interesting that my older programs written well before Windows 10 still work fine without any compatibility problems!)

Still trying to find out the 'child object' issue in FSX SE though.

Cheers

Paul

[n4gix]

Maybe Windows 11 will bring us all something we can all work with .

Rich

What Windows 11? MS announced long ago that Win10 will be the last OS version. They plan to keep on breaking fixing it until it doesn't work any longer.

[Bradburger]

Still trying to find out the 'child object' issue in FSX SE though.

Cheers

Paul

Just checked Event Viewer and it throws up the following when the 'child object' issue occurs: -

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 23/10/2017 18:03:40
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: PC
Description:
Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.62615.0, time stamp: 0x559f9a9a
Faulting module name: XAudio2_6.dll, version: 9.28.1886.0, time stamp: 0x4b6b0791
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0002cbef
Faulting process ID: 0x23f4
Faulting application start time: 0x01d34c201b2d469b
Faulting application path: D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\XAudio2_6.dll
Report ID: 7a0a6b37-da54-4d1c-aac7-53892952d938
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-10-23T17:03:40.540888800Z" />
<EventRecordID>747</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>fsx.exe</Data>
<Data>10.0.62615.0</Data>
<Data>559f9a9a</Data>
<Data>XAudio2_6.dll</Data>
<Data>9.28.1886.0</Data>
<Data>4b6b0791</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>0002cbef</Data>
<Data>23f4</Data>
<Data>01d34c201b2d469b</Data>
<Data>D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.ex e</Data>
<Data>C:\Windows\System32\XAudio2_6.dll</Data>
<Data>7a0a6b37-da54-4d1c-aac7-53892952d938</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

DX related with the new update perhaps?



Cheers

Paul

[Bradburger]

Just checked the Steam FSX SE forum and found other people are having issues with it since the CFU: -

https://steamcommunity.com/app/31416...1715710435961/

Cheers

Paul

[Crusader]

What Windows 11? MS announced long ago that Win10 will be the last OS version. They plan to keep on breaking fixing it until it doesn't work any longer.

I stand corrected .

Rich

[HyFlyer]

Interesting HyFlyer.

I just ran the compatibility checker on ASN16 & ASN Cloud Art, which changed it to Windows 8 compatibility, and they both now work!

But one has to ask why is this so, as these are new programs developed for Windows 10 and worked fine before the CFU?

(It's interesting that my older programs written well before Windows 10 still work fine without any compatibility problems!)

Still trying to find out the 'child object' issue in FSX SE though.

Cheers

Paul

God knows why it works. I was just staring at my computer after having the issue for two days of frustration and trying at least a dozen things, and finally just said "Hey, maybe if I......."

And it worked.

That's all I needed to know!

[gman5250]

I haven't been counting, but I am getting quite a few of these in the last few days. Yesterday, I had three.




This AM, around 4:00, the PC went to the blue screen with the little unhappy face. It took with it about four hours of detailed paint work in Photoshop.
When I booted back in, I had a little happy face in Outlook letting me know that Windows had updated Outlook and I should have a look at what's new.

At the moment, I am back in Photoshop, re-painting the four hours of work I lost. Of course it won't be the same as the work I did before, but hopefully it will be better. It's always better the second time I do the four hours of detailed paint work in Photoshop.

The last time this happened, I had a multi layered Photoshop file open. The file was the comprehensive work of all of my fuserear_t skins, specular and bump layers for the Douglas A-20G Havoc, and represented at least 80 hours of work. Following the unceremonious re-boot, I opened the PSD file to find a single layer that was red at the bottom with a noise fog of black across the top third. That was it. I had to go back and re-construct the entire body of work, and attempt to match all of the subtleties to the existing files that were not eviscerated by MS. All in all, the rebuild took me about a week to fully complete.


These PC problem crashes are becoming a bit too frequent, and I detest the idea of having to save my work every three or four minutes in lieu of MS barging in, uninvited, to grace me with yet another process to gobble up more of my workspace.



Just a HU, start hyper saving your work until MS fixes their latest FU.

[Crusader]

Boy , gold old Microsoft sure tested this well before they through it out the door didn't they ? I actually have been very fortunate far as Win 10 updates go . Couldn't get this one to install .

Rich