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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Yes, Ill look at it.

    EDIT: The original model is already set up to handle reflective textures in FS9. The xxx_T.bmp suffix to all body parts is evidence of that.

    I did have to add specular to each of them however.

    Attached is the new model and cfg entry.

    Now, all you need are paints. :-)

    Thanks Milton! Heck we aren't paying you enough! Take a raise outta petty cash! I think it looks rather spiffy!

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    FS9 Only Douglas A20 Havoc Released "K" model

    Hallo Milton,

    would it be a difficulty or too much work to add a "K" nose to the "G" model.
    Or is there a solution via the paint job?
    For me the K would be interesting as it will be the last of the A20 in service for long years. The brazilians did put them out of service in late 50 ies if I had seen well.
    I can not leave this bird, you have done a really nice bird
    Thank you
    Yours
    Papi

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrZippy View Post
    Thanks Milton! Heck we aren't paying you enough! Take a raise outta petty cash! I think it looks rather spiffy!

    Well done Sir :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    Hallo Milton,

    would it be a difficulty or too much work to add a "K" nose to the "G" model.
    Or is there a solution via the paint job?
    For me the K would be interesting as it will be the last of the A20 in service for long years. The brazilians did put them out of service in late 50 ies if I had seen well.
    I can not leave this bird, you have done a really nice bird
    Thank you
    Yours
    Papi
    Papi,

    Yes, it would take a bit of work to get that done. The K was based on the J (which was based on the) G, but had more powerful 1700 HP engines like the H.
    So, in addition to a longer nose and roomier bombardier interior, the flight model would not be correct for it, and the paint lit of course would not support it.
    Furthermore, the load out selection sheet does not support it so selecting options would be a problem.

    There is no way to do all the models; just too many of them, so I tried to select the more popular ones.

    The project is closed now and I have moved on to other work, namely finishing out the Marauder and converting aircraft to FSX native.

    As much as I wish I could accommodate your request, I am sorry that I cannot.
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    FS9 Only Douglas A20 Havoc Released "K" model

    Hallo Milton,

    thank you for your answer.
    I understand your point of view - there is a moment where some one must say stop enough is enough.
    What you gave us is still a masterpiece, and clear that we could not ask for every variant.
    I will go search further more for the brazilian A20's I have seen one with the same paintsheme as the one I did but it had a "gun nose" might be a "G".
    The bad thing is that the bird had a nose art a sort of red ensign but the photo is too poor to see clearly what it is. I will search to find out what this nose art is and than we can have a brazilian gun bird for our south american friends.
    So long
    Yours
    Papi

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    FS9 Only Douglas A20 Havoc Released

    Hallo Friends,
    here is a A20 of the Brazilian Air Force with a solid "gun nose".
    I found a photo of this rare variant on the net
    Yours Papi

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    Hallo Friends,
    here is a A20 of the Brazilian Air Force with a solid "gun nose".
    I found a photo of this rare variant on the net
    Yours Papi
    Ah, rare indeed; thank you for this beautiful rendition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    Hallo Friends,
    here is a A20 of the Brazilian Air Force with a solid "gun nose".
    I found a photo of this rare variant on the net
    Yours Papi
    That is a delightful and unusual texture set Papi. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrZippy View Post
    Thanks Milton! Heck we aren't paying you enough! Take a raise outta petty cash! I think it looks rather spiffy!
    That is very nice. What textures did you use?
    Last edited by Hurricane91; November 18th, 2017 at 16:54.

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    FS9 Only Douglas A20 Havoc Released FAB A20

    Hallo Friends,

    in fact the Brazilian Air Force had only A-20 K.
    As I found on the net a photo and a profile of an FAB A-20K with a solid nose with cannons I could not resist
    to try to make this repaint.
    It is just to have an "exotic" rare A-20 version.
    As it is far far away from the repaints done by Huub, or Mick or some other experts, I wonder if I should publish it.
    Yours
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    It is just to have an "exotic" rare A-20 version...I wonder if I should publish it.
    Your Brazilian A-20 is a beautiful, colorful, and exotic paint scheme. I would like you to publish it Papi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane91 View Post
    Your Brazilian A-20 is a beautiful, colorful, and exotic paint scheme. I would like you to publish it Papi.

    I agree; please do share your paint Papi.
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    Did you do that paint yourself? I hope you are going to share it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha66 View Post


    Did you do that paint yourself? I hope you are going to share it
    The textures were already posted by ******** and Milton posted the reflective model. I am using FSX .dds textures on my FS9 A20G which I fly in FSX. Confusing, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    H.........., I wonder if I should publish it.
    Yours
    Papi
    Is there a reason not to upload it? The only repaints I do not upload are the repaints for models which are (not longer) available.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrZippy View Post
    The textures were already posted by ******** and Milton posted the reflective model. I am using FSX .dds textures on my FS9 A20G which I fly in FSX. Confusing, huh?
    Didn't know that was possible at all! Were the textures posted in the FSX native thread then? I'll go check!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha66 View Post
    Didn't know that was possible at all! Were the textures posted in the FSX native thread then? I'll go check!

    Zippy is running an FS9 model in FSX as a portover.

    Anytime you run an FS9 model in FSX, you can use FSX native textures.

    Of course the quality and effects are not the same because the FS9 texture materials are not as capable as FSX modeled native material properties.

    ******** uploaded the bare metal texture to the FSX library about 2 weeks ago.

    You can get it here:

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...3&linkid=23151

    The FS9 reflective model is in this thread and has not been uploaded to the library.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Zippy is running an FS9 model in FSX as a portover.

    Anytime you run an FS9 model in FSX, you can use FSX native textures.

    Of course the quality and effects are not the same because the FS9 texture materials are not as capable as FSX modeled native material properties.

    ******** uploaded the bare metal texture to the FSX library about 2 weeks ago.

    You can get it here:

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...3&linkid=23151

    The FS9 reflective model is in this thread and has not been uploaded to the library.
    Thank you for clearing that up, Milton. I got confused!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha66 View Post
    Thank you for clearing that up, Milton. I got confused!
    Actually flying the FS9 version in entirety in my Sim (not FS2004). The FSX version did not show cockpit glass, gunners plexiglass bubble, or turret guns. My Sim's problem, not the aircraft.
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    I uploaded the reflective model to the library so we now have an official release.

    This is a model folder only; does not include a livery.

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...88#post1113488
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails a20grefl.jpg  
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    Hello Papi,
    Thank you for uploading your FAB A-20 texture set. It's a colorful addition to my A-20 fleet.

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    Should I be able to select and see the reflective model after install? I do see "reflective test" as an option on in A-20G menu in the sim, but it shows as a grey monotone in the sim. I did update my aircraft config.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downwind View Post
    Should I be able to select and see the reflective model after install? I do see "reflective test" as an option on in A-20G menu in the sim, but it shows as a grey monotone in the sim. I did update my aircraft config.
    What textures have you told the reflective entry on your aircraft config too seek ?
    Grey monotone aircraft sounds like it's lacking any textures.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by downwind View Post
    Should I be abble to select and see the reflective model after install? I do see "reflective test" as an option on in A-20G menu in the sim, but it shows as a grey monotone in the sim. I did update my aircraft config.
    You will probably have to wait for a talanted FS9 repainter to do up some shiny baremetal textures for that reflective model to strut it's stuff..
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    Quote Originally Posted by downwind View Post
    Should I be able to select and see the reflective model after install? I do see "reflective test" as an option on in A-20G menu in the sim, but it shows as a grey monotone in the sim. I did update my aircraft config.
    As explained in the release of the model, there were no textures with the model. The release was so others could do bare metal based textures. The original release did not accommodate them.
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