PA-22 virtual cockpit

[jackryan172]

Hi All,

I just discovered Bill Lyon's PA 22 Tri-Pacer. (its amazing the stuff you find when looking around your hard drive) and went ahead and installed it. Fun aircraft for VFR flights but it has this weird issue with the virtual cockpit where the gauges have some sort of transparent layer that moves, I guess to simulate shaking of the cockpit or something. Is there anyway to remove it? or stop it? It is really distracting. Otherwise its a pure joy to fly.

Thanks,
Sean

[Tom Clayton]

No promises, but I'll see if I can get Bill to stop by and give a little input.

Edit: D'OH!!! I was thinking of Bill "Lionheart" Ortis! Sorry...

[zswobbie1]

Thanks for reminding us about Bill Lyons (& Lynn).

I actually have all of their add-ons installed in my 'Golden Wings'. Most, if not all of them come with a story, as well as other stuff, boats, cars to compliment the story/mission, as well as radios, playing period music.
I've always regarded Bill as being one of the forgotten kingpins of our hobby, with a unique selection of addons.

[Mick]

Do you have Active Camera with head latency activated?! That might produce the effect you described.

I know of head latency because I have Active Camera, but I've never used head latency.

I have flown the Lyons Tri-Pacer without any such trouble, so if that isn't the cause it must be something fixable.

[jackryan172]

look at about the 3:25 mark. the glass in the gauges appears to move, that's the phenomenon Im talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u12ad_65U4

Sean

[mrogers]

It looks like reflections on the glass faces of the gauges, moving only when the plane is flying.

[jackryan172]

It looks like reflections on the glass faces of the gauges, moving only when the plane is flying.

Yes!!That is the behavior I am seeing . Is there any way to turn that off?

Sean

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,
Swap out the gauges for some without shine, perhaps.

Andy.

[mrogers]

I've downloaded it and put it in my sim, I have to say it's a real gem. The reflections are meant to be there to add to the realism. Bill and Lynn Lyons were top of the shelf designers in those days, their quanlity was payware like but all made freeware.
I suspected that the reflections might be mapped to a texture so had a look in the textures folder and yes, sure enough there is a single texture for it and it looks like it might be possible to remove the reflections. It needs to be run through a paint program and DXTmap to do that. I'll give it a go and see what happens.

[jackryan172]

I've downloaded it and put it in my sim, I have to say it's a real gem. The reflections are meant to be there to add to the realism. Bill and Lynn Lyons were top of the shelf designers in those days, their quanlity was payware like but all made freeware.
I suspected that the reflections might be mapped to a texture so had a look in the textures folder and yes, sure enough there is a single texture for it and it looks like it might be possible to remove the reflections. It needs to be run through a paint program and DXTmap to do that. I'll give it a go and see what happens.

Oh thank you sir! I will be more then happy to be a beta tester if needed.

Sean

[mrogers]

Just letting you know that I'm still working on it. I made the texture completely clear, but it did not work and the reflections are still there.

[Milton Shupe]

Reflection removed successfully. I have attached the replacement bmp(s) options.

One gives brighter, whiter gauges while the other leaves gauges with original darker appearance but without the reflections.

Hope this helps.

Note that the movement of the reflection seemed to be controlled in the model file the same as with the key chain so the bmp change was necessary to eliminate the effect.

[vonernsk]

Thanks very much for these replacement textures Milton. Impressive stuff given the work you are involved with at present. These textures work great.

On my PC the 'black/black' texture is lighter and clearer whilst the 'black/white' texture is the darker and more indistinct.

Tks again Milton, cannot wait until the Havoc and Mauauder hit the skies - amazing work and in which you are constantly raising the excellency bar!

Mal

Reflection removed successfully. I have attached the replacement bmp(s) options.

One gives brighter, whiter gauges while the other leaves gauges with original darker appearance but without the reflections.

Hope this helps.

Note that the movement of the reflection seemed to be controlled in the model file the same as with the key chain so the bmp change was necessary to eliminate the effect.

[mrogers]

I see that Milton has already got it worked out and posted up the new replacement textures. I had been looking at the wrong texture and couldn't figure out why it wasnt working. By the time I realised it and found the right one and made the changes Milton had already done it!
My new replacement textures would have been the same as his anyway. Go and enjoy the new replacement textures!

[Hurricane91]

Reflection removed successfully. I have attached the replacement bmp(s) options.

Thank you Milton. Your new bmps also work well in Bill's fine Luscombe. Thanks again.

[jackryan172]

Oh thank you Milton! It is awesome, works great, no more distraction. Thanks to everyone who helped on this!

Sean

[jackryan172]

I see that Milton has already got it worked out and posted up the new replacement textures. I had been looking at the wrong texture and couldn't figure out why it wasnt working. By the time I realised it and found the right one and made the changes Milton had already done it!
My new replacement textures would have been the same as his anyway. Go and enjoy the new replacement textures!

Thanks Mark, I do appreciate your help.