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  1. #26
    I have no idea what that Lycoming or the 54 sounded like(does anybody?)and I'm no sound expert but I use Nigel's sounds from the XP-47H in Jeff Nissen's XP-54 and that works for me.
    Just an idea.
    Hey! Its flightsim.Anything is possible.

  2. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by HorusJ View Post
    I have no idea what that Lycoming or the 54 sounded like(does anybody?)and I'm no sound expert but I use Nigel's sounds from the XP-47H in Jeff Nissen's XP-54 and that works for me.
    Just an idea.
    Hey! Its flightsim.Anything is possible.
    LOL HorusJ. It never even occurred to me that I have that excellent sound set in hand already. Thanks for that "slap in the face". I needed that! :-) LOL
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  3. #28
    For some oddball reason, I thought the engine, (Lycoming) used in the real prototype was a "V" type and not a radial, so I went with the big Chrysler in Jeff Nissen's XP-54 too. I also re-vamped the FDE a little so as to reflect the performance curve that added horsepower would give the plane, given the limited documentation I have. No heroics here, but she's a little more stable and closer to specs. But if it was a big radial, and since the "Swoose Goose" was eventually to be an interceptor, Nigel's XP-72 Superbolt sounds work very well too.

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  4. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird686 View Post
    For some oddball reason, I thought the engine, (Lycoming) used in the real prototype was a "V" type and not a radial, so I went with the big Chrysler in Jeff Nissen's XP-54 too. I also re-vamped the FDE a little so as to reflect the performance curve that added horsepower would give the plane, given the limited documentation I have. No heroics here, but she's a little more stable and closer to specs. But if it was a big radial, and since the "Swoose Goose" was eventually to be an interceptor, Nigel's XP-72 Superbolt sounds work very well too.

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    Negative, it was an "H" type, not a "V" or radial. There's info in the package, and I have more about it if needed.

    I have only about 4-5 hours or so in the FM; I am working on it with all the data I have from various sources to hit numbers at all altitudes. One must get the basics right before moving forward. Once I get the numbers right, I will tweak the handling characteristics.
    Are we going off in different directions here with different projects?

    I am now using the XP-47H Chrysler sounds which was a water cooled 16 cylinder unit that I think is a better match.
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  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Negative, it was an "H" type, not a "V" or radial. There's info in the package, and I have more about it if needed.

    I have only about 4-5 hours or so in the FM; I am working on it with all the data I have from various sources to hit numbers at all altitudes. One must get the basics right before moving forward. Once I get the numbers right, I will tweak the handling characteristics.
    Are we going off in different directions here with different projects?

    I am now using the XP-47H Chrysler sounds which was a water cooled 16 cylinder unit that I think is a better match.
    I gathered up some info on the "H" block engines, after reading about sleeve valve configured power plants and was surprised to learn that the P&W X-1800 was in fact a sleeve valve engine. I've had Jeff Nissen's XP-54 for some time now and just got re-interested in that one after seeing Mick's paints for the XP-56 and XP-55. I'm not concentrating on any different projects at the mo. Also, Rolls Royce had an "H" block sleeve valve engine, the "Eagle". It was a beast!

    Seeing the Swoose Goose project underway here has me looking at nearly all of the related info available that was pertinent to the XP-54 as well as what was similar or related to that aircraft, but not proposed. Funny how the XP-54 got it's name "Swoose Goose", half swan, half goose, said to be a popular song for that time period.

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  6. #31
    If it is of any help, The Napier Sabre (in different variants) Was also an H block, 24 cylinders and sleeve valves, used in the hawker Typhoon and Tempest V, maybe a way forward on the sound side.

    Milton, I do have the original downloaded files for the XP-54 by J. Nissen, if needed, just shout.

    Wonderful job by the way , can't wait to fly her
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  7. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Ascua View Post
    If it is of any help, The Napier Sabre (in different variants) Was also an H block, 24 cylinders and sleeve valves, used in the hawker Typhoon and Tempest V, maybe a way forward on the sound side.

    Milton, I do have the original downloaded files for the XP-54 by J. Nissen, if needed, just shout.

    Wonderful job by the way , can't wait to fly her
    Thanks for the info.

    I suspect what I'll do to keep this simple is just release it with the sounds I have since they belong to the team . Interested fliers can go seek the sound set they like if they prefer something different. Those may be good alternatives. Thank you for that.

    Someone sent me a link to Jeff's 54; thank you.

    I am working on the flight model now trying to slug out some progress. Got some porpoising at critical altitude that I have not figured out so I sent the FM to Tom "Fliger" Falley to look at it. Tom to the rescue as usual. :-)
    Also had a few mapping issues to resolve; thank you Mike for that heads-up.
    Also got the pilot to enter/exit without smashing his head but his legs are a bit shorter now. :-)

    Mike Kelley is working hard on textures for the project with a basic kit planned.
    Three others are texturing and will likely share their work.

    EDIT: I just wanted to say that had I been able to find Jeff's xp-54, I would not have done this project. Although it has no VC, it's still a nice model and nice flight model.
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  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Looking forward to flyingXP-54 in FsX
    Thank you Roger; you will have that opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Also got the pilot to enter/exit without smashing his head but his legs are a bit shorter now. :-)
    Thought that was funny. Poor bloke must have quite a few lumps on his noggin' after all that.

    Sounds like you're making some good progress Chief. I'm eager to see what paints that folks come up will look like on this beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksw1375 View Post
    What about XP-54 Cockpit???
    As a filler project, and intended for a quick finish, I wanted something basic and quick, but fortunately I found one in my inventory that matched perfectly.
    I borrowed the cockpit from the xp-72. The VC is textured by Nigel. It's not representative of the real world Vultee xp-54. I know this not because there are any pictures or drawings available for the aircraft but because we do know it had an inverted U control arm upon which the "steering wheel" was mounted.

    Such is life. If I had pictures and drawings of the XP-54 cockpit, I would have tried to be more realistic. So, this is what you get.
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    Milton,I LIKE it!

  14. #39
    Most unusual. I could see it doing laps at Reno.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    I know this not because there are any pictures or drawings available for the aircraft but because we do know it had an inverted U control arm upon which the "steering wheel" was mounted.
    I gave it my best shot to find reference photos but in the end just ran across what everyone else did. Your XP-72 VC seems to fit well though.
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  16. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    Most unusual. I could see it doing laps at Reno.......
    Magoo! Great to see you again :-)

    Yes, maybe but in a slower class; maybe with other Lycoming "also rans" :-)

    She would have been better with the P&W or Allison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses03 View Post
    I gave it my best shot to find reference photos but in the end just ran across what everyone else did. Your XP-72 VC seems to fit well though.
    Thank you for trying Moses. A lot of people have looked, have books, etc. but there simply does not seem to be good reference available for this cockpit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksw1375 View Post
    Any updates on this?

    From what I have heard, just waiting to see what the paint shops come up with as far as skins. I heard some folks are working on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksw1375 View Post
    Any updates on this?
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  21. #46
    For FSX acceleration users.....think Crimson Skies at Reno......

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    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    For FSX acceleration users.....think Crimson Skies at Reno......
    Ohhh.. XP-54 vs Do.335 cross-country match racing even in FS-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    For FSX acceleration users.....think Crimson Skies at Reno......
    Hey Magoo!!

    Now that's an idea. Now to go find some good CS screenshots.
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    I'd love to see a "Crimson Skies", and also a "Merc Air" paint... (Wink,wink, nudge, nudge, dontcha know....?)

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    Well, Merc Air did "borrow" the Crimson Skies logo a long time ago.

    I did a Merc Air paint a while back for Piglet's FSX Sus Scrofa SS4P turboprop when we were flying fast GA online. Very XP-54ish but with a 4 seat GA type cabin and glass panel. Think JPS black with gold pinstriping scheme with the logo on the tails and the front of the nose.

    Trying to decide what I'm gonna do with the inside bits for now. Probably just gonna bare metal 'em.
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