H.XVIIIB Amerika Bomber - New Jet bomber?

**BorekS** · January 5th, 2017, 04:19

basically yes, all my airplanes could be transformed to the "civil" MS FS game series, but during all the times I just lost the know-how, what all needs to do, to get the airplane working there properly. still I am open for such work.

anyway, this America Bomber could be easy FS2004 job, in case we would have the flight dynamics and some decent 2D panel at least.

**Daiwilletti** · January 5th, 2017, 17:00

Originally Posted by BorekS

do you have the several monkies off your back already, mate?

btw, 78 downloads from the MF storage... thanks to all

Hi BorekS, Unfortunately I seem to be collecting monkies, not getting rid of them.

In the middle of last year I got a surprise diagnosis of AML, and have been subject to chemotherapy ever since... Hoping for better things in 2017.

**BorekS** · January 8th, 2017, 23:29

oh, so sorry about that, wish to you better, really much much better things / health in 2017!

**lgoncalv** · January 9th, 2017, 12:22

All the best Daiwilletti .. i went thrgouh the same two years ago. Courage.

**BorekS** · January 16th, 2017, 16:31

@lgoncalv: oh... all the best to you too!

@zswobbie1: ok, a very first CFS3-->FS2004 Amerika Bomber add-on conversion image attached. as the flight model Ive used the Ho.XVIIIC source by Skysailor.

**dmaloof** · January 16th, 2017, 18:00

very sharp. Hey someday in cfs 3?

**sixstrings5859** · January 16th, 2017, 18:19

A fantastic addition for CFS3. Who could of imagined this was to come. Great work !

**zswobbie1** · January 16th, 2017, 21:02

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Where can I find it?

**BorekS** · January 16th, 2017, 23:48

glad you like it, guys

@dmaloof: well, our Horten Ho.XVIIIB Amerika Bomber airplane add-on is available for CFS3 since 3. november 2016 already, check please my simhangar site for more

the reason why it isnt here at Warbirds library yet is the current pack lacks a decent flight model sofar. waiting for someone who could fix this "small" problem.

@zswobbie1: all what I did sofar is I spent some time yesterday to study how to export the original CFS3 gmax external model into FS2004 without crashing the MakeMDL tool. there is no virtual or 2D cockpit, no moving parts... usually such work takes weeks, months, years, it really isnt about a few hours, yet I am allone in this work

**sixstrings5859** · January 17th, 2017, 01:20

Hope you will get the help needed. There needs to be a design group and i'm learning slowly to do those things needed by the community . Hopeful that i'll be able to do this in the future. Not a computer wizzard by any stretch .

**zswobbie1** · January 17th, 2017, 03:32

Originally Posted by BorekS

glad you like it, guys

@dmaloof: well, our Horten Ho.XVIIIB Amerika Bomber airplane add-on is available for CFS3 since 3. november 2016 already, check please my simhangar site for more

the reason why it isnt here at Warbirds library yet is the current pack lacks a decent flight model sofar. waiting for someone who could fix this "small" problem.

@zswobbie1: all what I did sofar is I spent some time yesterday to study how to export the original CFS3 gmax external model into FS2004 without crashing the MakeMDL tool. there is no virtual or 2D cockpit, no moving parts... usually such work takes weeks, months, years, it really isnt about a few hours, yet I am allone in this work

Thanks for your time.
I'm an old time FS2004 user, & I really like the older and different planes. I can fit CfS2 planes into FS2004 with a few modifications, but CFS3 planes are a problem for me.

**BorekS** · January 17th, 2017, 04:17

@sixstrings5859: I think I personally got a great support from you in many aspects already, thank you mate

@zswobbie1: no problem, I always liked the idea to release my stuff into various sims

yeah, I think in many cases can help a MDLC MDL Converter tool by Ivan Hsu, to convert MDL files from FS2004-->FS2002-->CFS2, if the gmax or FSDS or whatelse airplane factory 3d model sources arent available. but I didnt tested this tool deeply yet. it could allow to convert nicely my FS2004 models into CFS2

then there is a tool called ModelConverterX, but it cant load CFS3 M3D files of course

the final M3D files are bit out of all the MSFS series standards, so to speak, and as far as I know, there is not possible to convert them any decent way at all. it would needs to decode the M3D into some readable 3d format first. not sure if that happens.

however, my CFS3 gmax models use plenty of dummy parts (nodes) for moving parts, which isnt supported for FS2004, so it needs some kind of rework there. next, it needs to correct the keyframe animation CFS3-FS2004 logic. another big differency is the CFS3 virtual cockpit gauges are all 3d animated models comparing to the faked invicible FS2004 virtual flat panel gauge logic (means a pure FS2004 virtual cockpit).

well, I think I know how this all to solve, still things related to the flight dynamics and so on are way from my experience. anyway, for the FS2004 Amerika Bomber I would just use the Skysailors set - with credits of course.

**sixstrings5859** · January 17th, 2017, 04:48

I'll be praying for you Daiwilletti . Hang in there and hope for the best. I'm disabled so i fell your pain. Get well soon Bro. Regards,Scott

**Daiwilletti** · January 17th, 2017, 11:29

Thanks, BorekS, Lgoncalv, sixstrings, am just browsing whilst waiting for discharge from final treatment. Now all I have to do is grow some new white blood cells (quite important)!

**BorekS** · January 23rd, 2017, 16:49

may the Force be with you, guys!

well, as to our Amerika Bomber there is a small update relating to the virtual interiror. Ive just reworked the cockpit mesh slightly, to be able to plant it with some regular gauges for CFS3 and also for the FS2004/CFS3 version.

still this project is meant like a quick job, so I am not bothering with the VC textures or mesh complexity somehow deeper.
anyway, to make a picture how the (wip) interior looks now, check the attached images. its without gauges sofar, just a photo texture applied.

**BorekS** · January 25th, 2017, 15:46

first CFS2 and FS2004 virtual cockpit gauge tests... works fine. so when the CFS3 virtual interiror will be done, there seems is no problem to port it into other sims

**lgoncalv** · January 26th, 2017, 01:02

Borek i love you man! What a plane it will be!

***Pat Pattle*** · January 26th, 2017, 03:31

That cockpit looks great!

**dmaloof** · January 26th, 2017, 21:05

Ditto!

**BorekS** · February 14th, 2017, 17:01

ok, guys,
finally took some time to plant the working gauges over the phototextured instrument panel. a first attempt screenshot set attached.

**sixstrings5859** · February 15th, 2017, 18:40

Looks fantastic!! Coming together nicely. I'd never imagined this would be coming to us. Thank you,Sir Regards,Scott

**BorekS** · February 16th, 2017, 00:35

Originally Posted by sixstrings5859

Coming together nicely. I'd never imagined this would be coming to us.

mee too

it was originally just meant like a decently flyable airplane, AI related primary

well, I think I will need to manually repaint the virtual interiror bit yet to avoid fo the blurry side textures mainly and add a few 3d instruments yet.

I was also thinking to make the 3d crew figures for virtual cockpit animated a bit, because when sitting the player at current seat and rotating your virtual head arround you should see the rest of crew sitting there. well, such feature needs a bit of rethinkg yet to make it properly, needs to using separate _Cockpit0, _Cockpit1, _Cockpit3 logic, to see always only two figures+player at the three crew (seat) cockpit.

**BorekS** · July 11th, 2018, 06:38

ok guys,
to bring something into the Beta section, Ive touched the Horten atomic bomber again.

it got a few small changes + the virtual cockpit is finally here, with slightly resmoothed (static) crew. 3 main views available: Pilot, Co-Pilot (autopilot) and Bombsight.

external images first (Vanilla CFS3 + Ankor Shaders 2018 test):