Douglas C-47 V3 Beta Released

[gray eagle]

I'd like to know why both engines quit after only a few minutes of flight. I took off from KNGZ and about 5~ minutes later, both engines shut down. I didn't run out of fuel and yes the cowl were open.
See for yourself the SHIFT + 4 (monitor) screen. Every things looks to be good. This happens to me in this V3. I've never experienced this in V2. Tried to re light the engines but were unresponsive.



I can still hear the engines running while in cockpit view....strange.



Edit: I was soaring at 7000 ~ altitude and did a decent with no engines till I bounced on the ground a few times then when it went bounced off a lake, both engines came to life all on their
own and I was back in business again, like nothing happened. I think that is strange.

[gman5250]

Keeping an eye on your mixture? I see 100%.

Take off you should be auto rich, depending on altitude you may need to lean it up a tiny bit. Climb out may need nudging towards lean as you increase altitude, but not too lean, otherwise cooked motors. It's kind of a thin envelope, head temps will be pushing the yellow through climb. I see climb @ 1270, that's high, even with lower fuel weight than you are showing...she should climb comfortable @500-700 FPM with out pushing engines to the point of cardiac.

Once on altitude lean as required and set RPM, MAP for cruise.

[gray eagle]

Thanks for the autopsy I had crash detection set to off so when I bounced off terra firma, she came back to life and both engines just did a mulligan.
I'll have to look at all that data you mentioned and let it soak in while soaring the wild blue yonder. Shucks, I thought I was doing well as I managed to climb to around 7K feet.
Then, everything quit like it was saying, your done. Still don't know why I heard both engines running from the cockpit when they were not running.

Anyway, thanks "G" for the pointers.

Keeping an eye on your mixture? I see 100%.

Take off you should be auto rich, depending on altitude you may need to lean it up a tiny bit. Climb out may need nudging towards lean as you increase altitude, but not too lean, otherwise cooked motors. It's kind of a thin envelope, head temps will be pushing the yellow through climb. I see climb @ 1270, that's high, even with lower fuel weight than you are showing...she should climb comfortable @500-700 FPM with out pushing engines to the point of cardiac.

Once on altitude lean as required and set RPM, MAP for cruise.

[DaveB]

When I'm up, clean and comfortable.. I click on CR (on the throttle line) which will automatically pull the RPM and mixture back. A gentle climb at the value Gordon mentioned is easily achieved. I'd also have the cowl flaps closed soon after.

I've no idea how long it took you to get to 7000ft Butch but with the mixture and RPM still at 100%.. I'd say you cooked the old girl good'n'proper

ATB
DaveB

[Alky]

If you click on that little bird looking thing beside the word cowls, they will be operated by the co-pilot. Your cowls should be open about a 1 at that altitude, not wide open at 8. Anything over about 6000 ft, working the mixture is important!

[alehead]

Thanks for sharing this with the guys here. I have it and a lot more. There are a number of these on the web you can find for free. Check out this site for tons of information.

http://douglasdc3.com/-----free
http://www.avialogs.com/ ----- subscription but for $9.00 for a whole month of downloading, if you compare the cost of $15.00 per manual from the other guys its a steal. They even have the C117 manuals I found nowhere else.

Keep sharing stuff, guys we all appreciate it.

That avialogs site is one hell of a repository... Amazing! Currently, they have an offer of 2 for the price of one... subscribe for one year and get the second year free... $39 is not cheap as such, but it is the price of a higher-end add-on or scenery, and you get a goldmine of documents. Well worth thinking about thanks!

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[VesaJuhani]

It would be intresting to hear, are there any plans to make the DC-3
with the little tail cone, which was as far as I know, typical for civil
airliner version.

[griphos]

I don't believe so. It has been stated several times that this is the C-47 model and there seems to be no intention to make a pax DC-3 version.

[nigelhj]

This might be of interest to some, came across this site regarding a C47 set on a plinth outside Niuquini Head Office Port Moresby. This was the original C47 given to General Montgomery by General Eisenhower which was registered as KN241, after the war it was used by various airlines.

http://www.michie.net/balus/pxp2anq.html

Scroll down to second plaque

http://www.michie.net/balus/p2-anq-plaques.html

Photographed at Gatwick Airport.

http://www.airteamimages.com/douglas..._-_130231.html

Regards
Nigel.

[mjahn]

Just uploaded to the Library:

FSX/P3D C-47 V3 Three Exterior Models
This package includes exterior only models C47v3_1 (wartime, Rebecca aerial, no beacon), C47v3_2 (post-war, tailfin beacon, minus Rebecca), and C47v3_GAF (special aerials and beacons as used by the GAF calibrator planes of the nineteen seventies). Models and paints by Manfred Jahn. They all work with the Vintage Virtual Cockpit (VVC) designed by Jan Visser et al. Previous installation Douglas_C-47_V3_12_Beta.zip or later required.

[tgycgijoes]

Is SOH still waiting to upload it, couldn't find it. Can you put a link to it here please for me and anyone else having trouble that would like these.

[YoYo]

Good news!

[gray eagle]

I just wanted to say thank you for making the models. Now, I can copy over all my V2 (non-Rebecca) paints to the V3. I noticed too that with the improved model.C47_2, my tail wheel sits better on the ground. The V2 tail wheel use to look like it was low on air. The Shift + 4 (Monitor) is more responsive to the doors and step mouse click too.

Thank you very much sir.

Just uploaded to the Library:

FSX/P3D C-47 V3 Three Exterior Models
This package includes exterior only models C47v3_1 (wartime, Rebecca aerial, no beacon), C47v3_2 (post-war, tailfin beacon, minus Rebecca), and C47v3_GAF (special aerials and beacons as used by the GAF calibrator planes of the nineteen seventies). Models and paints by Manfred Jahn. They all work with the Vintage Virtual Cockpit (VVC) designed by Jan Visser et al. Previous installation Douglas_C-47_V3_12_Beta.zip or later required.

[gray eagle]

Richard,

Unless you haven't discovered, it is available now.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...7&linkid=21741

Is SOH still waiting to upload it, couldn't find it. Can you put a link to it here please for me and anyone else having trouble that would like these.

[tgycgijoes]

Richard,

Unless you haven't discovered, it is available now.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...7&linkid=21741

Thank you for the link I just downloaded them and will update all MY V2 repaints.

[gray eagle]

Bear in mind, that some of the gauges from the V3 panel from and what I heard will not illuminate therefore, maybe save a few V2 paints for any night flying.

Thank you for the link I just downloaded them and will update all MY V2 repaints.

[triflyman]

Anyone have any experience with A2A's Accu-Feel and this aircraft? Did my 2nd flight, United Airlines Flight #1 from 1942 that went from New York to Chicago (4hrs & 42mim). Seems this aircraft has a lot of it's own shakes, rattles and bumps so Accu-Feel not needed. Anyone else have an opinion?

[Alan_A]

I used Accu-Feel in some of my beta test flights, then turned it off. Found it got in the way of the native sounds. I like Accu-Feel in general but it's not needed here. The package can stand on its own.

[triflyman]

Thanks Alan...thought as much.

[fsxuser]

Brilliant. Thank you.

However, I have one question. Is there a way to toggle IAS and ID48 gauges?
From pictures it seems they were located like this in the real airplane.

[nigelhj]

Hope that this is the right place to post this but think it might very well be of interest. Plenty of information regarding flying of this aircraft including speeds engine settings etc and one that I find extremely helpful.


http://www.douglasdc3.com/dc3throt/dc3throt.htm

Regards
Nigel.

[griphos]

Yes, a very useful site (and links to it are on the first pages of the manual).

The location of gauges are a little different on different planes. This cockpit matches a particular real aircraft, and so its gauges match those.

[fsxuser]

The location of gauges are a little different on different planes. This cockpit matches a particular real aircraft, and so its gauges match those.

I wanted to say that in american airplanes, the airspeed indicator is usualy located on the upper left side of the panel. (left or right)

[Ian Warren]

Brilliant Manfred, absolutely brilliant

[jeansy]

Thanks Manfred Ive taken to the new models without a pause