As the nature of things progress...

[wombat666]

At this point in time the AVRO collection is flying very nicely in FS9, FSX, FSX-SE, P3D3 and P3D4.
Well done indeed Nigel!

Just started to go a little feral in 3v.4.........might be me, back to checking my set up.

[michaelvader]

Good Morning Nigel,

the 2d panels are very close to be finished.
Now there are two questions:
1) in the panel.cfg are mentioned two fuel gauges,
but when flying the plane I do not find them - mystery for me
2) for using the sluts I must use the VC to liberate or bloc them,
is there a possible key assignation so I could try to make a gauge
for the 2D panel?
She is realy a very fine bird to fly.
Yours
Papi

[wombat666]

Good Morning Nigel,

the 2d panels are very close to be finished.
Now there are two questions:
1) in the panel.cfg are mentioned two fuel gauges,
but when flying the plane I do not find them - mystery for me
2) for using the sluts I must use the VC to liberate or bloc them,
is there a possible key assignation so I could try to make a gauge
for the 2D panel?
She is realy a very fine bird to fly.
Yours
Papi

Papi, that would be the 'slats' mate.
I've known quite a number of the others.
No offence.

[michaelvader]

Good Morning Nigel,

the 2d panels are very close to be finished.
Now there are two questions:
1) in the panel.cfg are mentioned two fuel gauges,
but when flying the plane I do not find them - mystery for me
2) for using the sluts I must use the VC to liberate or bloc them,
is there a possible key assignation so I could try to make a gauge
for the 2D panel?
She is realy a very fine bird to fly.
Yours
Papi

Sorry Nigel,
my english seems not to be good enough to understand what you mean
yours
Papi

[Milton Shupe]

Good Morning Nigel,

the 2d panels are very close to be finished.
Now there are two questions:
1) in the panel.cfg are mentioned two fuel gauges,
but when flying the plane I do not find them - mystery for me
2) for using the sluts I must use the VC to liberate or bloc them,
is there a possible key assignation so I could try to make a gauge
for the 2D panel?
She is realy a very fine bird to fly.
Yours
Papi

Papi,

This is the custom xml for slats control. You may be able to use the L:var to access it, or to set the flap handle index to unlock/lock, but that may confuse synchronization with the vc.

<!-- Auto-Deploy Slats with Lockout -->

<part>
<name>LE_SLATS_LOCK_LOGIC_SW</name>
<animation>
<parameter>
<code>
(L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool) ! (A:FLAPS HANDLE INDEX, number) 0 != and if{ (&gt;K:FLAPS_UP) }
(L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool) (A:PLANE PITCH DEGREES, degrees) -14 &lt; (A:FLAPS HANDLE INDEX, number) 1 != and and if{ (&gt;K:FLAPS_DOWN) }
(L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool) (A:PLANE PITCH DEGREES, degrees) -14 &lt; ! (A:FLAPS HANDLE INDEX, number) 0 != and and if{ (&gt;K:FLAPS_UP) }
(L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool) if{ 100 } els{ 0 }
</code>
<lag>400</lag>
</parameter>
</animation>
<mouserect>
<cursor>Hand</cursor>
<callback_code>
(L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool) ! (>L:LE_SLATS_LOCKOUT, bool)
</callback_code>
</mouserect>
</part>

[michaelvader]

Thank you Milton
euh oups I do not have enough knowledge to make a gauge of it at a first look.
But I will try.
I have done 2d panels at first as an experiment to save fluidity of my sim - it is better now
Yours
Papi

[michaelvader]

Hallo Friends,
in the previous post I attached my 2D panels for the AVRO 621, the Tutor, the Prefect and the PWS 18.
I used screenshots from the realy fine VC.
Why did I do those 2d panels?
Certainly not to make the fifth wheel of a car or just to make panels.
When I first tested the original Tutor my flightsim had "stuttering" and it was not flying but a very hardly controllable diashow.
I made at first a fast primitive 2d panel and things got fluid. That persuated me that the problem came frome the VC modus.
As the original VC is so perfect I did screenshots from every models VC and did the 2D panels out of them.
So the 2D panels are as close as possible to the original VC. I just made two modifications: 1) I replaced the battery switch by a starter button. 2) As id id not find a primer pump gauge and I do not use it I obmitted it.
I wanted to add a gauge for the slats. Milton sended me the code but to do a gauge out of it - for the moment I do not see how to make it.
Enough about it
Yours
Papi

[Motormouse]

So I did cheat a bit to get all the way up to Mt Everest.... our intrepid 'Biggles' is glad of his electrically heated 'Sidcot' suit and gloves....



found it ran out of puff at 12,000ft; probably due to density effect...

ttfn

Pete

[nigel richards]

Good Morning Nigel,

the 2d panels are very close to be finished.
Now there are two questions:
1) in the panel.cfg are mentioned two fuel gauges,
but when flying the plane I do not find them - mystery for me
2) for using the sluts I must use the VC to liberate or bloc them,
is there a possible key assignation so I could try to make a gauge
for the 2D panel?
She is realy a very fine bird to fly.
Yours
Papi

Sincere apologies, Papi - I haven't been up here for a couple of days and only now seen your post, Sir. :-)

Busy getting models updated, and getting Air.files cfg. files sorted out. James banks has been making some awesomely realistic handling for these birds.

To answer your questions my friend:

1). The only valid panel entries so far, are those for the VC.
The Real fuel gauge was in front of the forward cockpit - we're still hoping to make this functional. So we'd also feature this in the 2D panel.

2). Good thinking on slat operation from 2D panels.
We really must see if Roman Stoviak could help us out here - the VC slats operation are his very generous masterpiece.

Tomorrow I will be sending NEW Air.files and cfg. files to all of our testers, including youself, Papi. :-)

Many thanks for your enthusiasm, and thoughtful questions, Sir.

Warm Regards,

Nigel

[nigel richards]

Papi,

This is the custom xml for slats control. You may be able to use the L:var to access it, or to set the flap handle index to unlock/lock, but that may confuse synchronization with the vc.

Thanks for the welcome HU in my absence, Milton. :-)

[nigel richards]

So I did cheat a bit to get all the way up to Mt Everest.... our intrepid 'Biggles' is glad of his electrically heated 'Sidcot' suit and gloves....



found it ran out of puff at 12,000ft; probably due to density effect...

ttfn

Pete

Should be getting 16,000ft; thanks for highlighting this, and the PM solution, Pete!

[Motormouse]

Should be getting 16,000ft; thanks for highlighting this, and the PM solution, Pete!

Ah, Nigel, you would only get 16,000 ft on a perfect day when the atmospherics comply with international standard atmosphere... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...ard_Atmosphere

Test with 1013 pressure and 15 deg C at sea level,
that will be more realistic.

Ttfn

Pete

[magoo]

Yeah....the Lynx powered Tutor would run out of steam somewhere around 11,000 -12,000 feet. (Think Stearman with a 220 hp Continental..)

If you want to rampage around the mountain peaks, you'd need the 626 Prefect. It's running a supercharged Cheetah V, getting you about three quarters into Pratt & Whitney R985 territory. Carries more fuel, too. Maybe not bad for a Himalayan expedition.

[Motormouse]

IIRC Magoo, only the Prefects supplied to Egypt and Brazil had Cheetah engine, the rest retained carb fed Lynx.

Ttfn

Pete

[huub vink]

IIRC Magoo, only the Prefects supplied to Egypt and Brazil had Cheetah engine, the rest retained carb fed Lynx.

Ttfn

Pete

According to Mr Wikipedia you are absolutely correct Pete......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_626

[nigel richards]

Correct, Gentlemen. :-)

The cheetah (Armstrong Siddeley Lynx Major to put the cat among the pigeons) was my own preference for the 626 Prefect in its most powerful version. This is reflected well in an interesting range of flight models, from the docile Mongoose powered 621 to the lively 626 Prefect.

All NEW flight models should reach you fine Gentlemen later this evening.

[wombat666]

Correct, Gentlemen. :-)
The cheetah (Armstrong Siddeley Lynx Major to put the cat among the pigeons) was my own preference for the 626 Prefect in its most powerful version. This is reflected well in an interesting range of flight models, from the docile Mongoose powered 621 to the lively 626 Prefect.All NEW flight models should reach you fine Gentlemen later this evening.

Once more into the breach Nigel.

[nigel richards]

Once more into the breach Nigel.

Greatly appreciate your participation, Wombat666

[Sascha66]

Got'em, thank you Nigel! Now to see what has changed. It's amazing that this is still not a release version.

[nigel richards]

Got'em, thank you Nigel! Now to see what has changed. It's amazing that this is still not a release version.

Thank YOU, Sascha :-)

Improvements?
I have an interesting array of mainly small items and model refinements to complete once we are finished testing the flight models.
We also have the float versions to set up with flight models for testing, too.

Enjoy the Test Flying, my friend!

[Mick]

Between the recently heavier than usual demands of life and an efort to minimize the use of an ailing confutor I've barely had a chance to check out these planes. Whenever I do get the chance I get impressed all over again!

[michaelvader]

Hallo friends
I added just a little feature in the aircraft cfg
For me it is very nice when flying in the morning or evening light

[LIGHTS]
light.0= 3, 5.10, 00.30, -2.41, fx_a6m5_exhaust

as you would put the nav lights on after the engine has fired it would go well
but other possibilities to switch the exhaust effect on might be possible
It is well for the Prefect now I will have a look for the other Avro's

Yours
Papi

[michaelvader]

HMMMM wonder if the mixture is not realy right to get such flames?

[nigel richards]

HMMMM wonder if the mixture is not realy right to get such flames?

Hey, looks like you've got the mixture just fine - have fun Pappi!

[huub vink]

I like to fly low & slow, so what am I doing here? The AVRO's are doing absolute great at low altitudes, why would somebody like to fly them at these altitudes where they hardly respond?

Huub