Tonight, I started work on the Portugese Navy bird. not done. but a good start to get things in the right places.. and the right colours.
Yes.. it's a floatplane.. but NO this is NOT the correct model! I need one with the rear 'gun' emplacement, but with no gun, and a cover over the round hole...and the fuel tank in the upper wing center.
So.. basically a PREFECT on floats... and not sure if the Portugese ones carried the gun.. I've only got a couple of colour plates to go by here..
cheers
Dave
All that really remains now is the aircraft number and some 'tidying up' of the textures once Nigel gets the correct model for this scheme all sorted out. Third crew position with cover (anyone know if they DID carry the gun???), no spinner, and the big fat upper wing center section fuel tank (basically a Prefect on floats)
Yes Nigel.. there is no rest!! LOL
To be completely honest, I'll probably NEVER fly it in these colours.. too many other schemes I like.. but I KNOW there will be Portuguese simmers out there that will!
And it is pretty!!!!
cheers
Dave
The 'old' model Prefect in the new skin.
Hello chaps,
I've made a couple of minor changes to the .cfg files for the float versions if anyone wants to try them
(MOI figures and moved the CG down below the datum axis)
Attachment 60079Attachment 60080
ttfn
Pete
Well.. just a few minutes in, and I like it. I had already changed the roll stability to 2.0 to try and get her to be a bit more stable, and it was working, and coupled with your new bits.. she flies like a dream.. so.. I backed off the roll stability to 1.5, and still holding a course quite nicely... once you get her sorted out and DEAD level.. sometimes NOT an easy task with my joystick!!.. but it seems a bit LESS finicky now.Originally Posted by Motormouse
Versions of the Prefect with and without the Lewis gun installation are still in the works, Gentlemen.
Most Air Forces (with notable exceptions) including the RAF ordered the standard 2 seater (covered gun position).
Thankfully, the rear pilot position was covered with a purpose-built cover when used for gunnery practice. Just as well, as this saves our bacon regarding maximum poly limit.
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Both versions will also come with spinner options, as well as floats.
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Thanks Pete.
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Oh I knew they were coming nigel! LOL.... just getting a bit of a head start.. and doing 'easy' schemes with no paintkit.. ( a technique I have 'mostly' figured out!!Versions of the Prefect with and without the Lewis gun installation are still in the works, Gentlemen.
Most Air Forces (with notable exceptions) including the RAF ordered the standard 2 seater (covered gun position).
Thankfully, the rear pilot position was covered with a purpose-built cover when used for gunnery practice. Just as well, as this saves our bacon regarding maximum poly limit.
)
Also.. in that colour plate of the Portuguese aircraft... did you notice the different float profile??? I'm not sure if they used more than one float design. I will have to source some actual photographs and make sure.. after all.. this IS an artists conception! :-)
cheers
Dave
Float profile here... https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/526932
hey Nigel, how about a low poly float version on the beaching gear as a scenery object...?
ttfn
Pete
Slab-sided floats were indeed used by the Portugese Air Force, Dave. However, inspite of the cost in extra polys, I opted to model those curvacious beauties operated by the RAF and RNAS. :-)
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
So far we have several scenery object models (see below) - lowish in polys, circa 2 MB a piece, Pete - I see no reason why we shouldn't add the float version too.
What about a trestled version for hangar maintenance?...
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
And lovely curvaceous beauties they are Nigel.. love 'em!Slab-sided floats were indeed used by the Portugese Air Force, Dave. However, inspite of the cost in extra polys, I opted to model those curvacious beauties operated by the RAF and RNAS. :-)
Nigel, Ditto what Bushi posted. love them.
Thanks Dave
Thanks Taco - please check your PMsNigel, Ditto what Bushi posted. love them.
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
How are things with this...btw nice repaints
Ticking along nicely, Nigel is working like a one armed paper hanger on the models... and if you notice a scenery of Old Sarum to go with them, several people are splashing paint about, and one or two of us are making sure it straightens up and flies right.
Ttfn
Pete
Pete UK2000 vol1 for FSX, P3D etc has old Sarum.
Here http://www.uk2000scenery.com/vfrairf...les/Page2.html
It is also compatible with Orbx scenery.
Cheers chris
It does, but is in its' modern guise. I think Nigel is creating a more antique look, backdating it.
Ttfn
Pete
Hallo Nigel and friends,
just did some flights with the new Avro aicrafts.
For the moment I am very occupied with the PBY panels.
What begun as just a little work developed to a lot more.
Now to the Avro.
There is some things I do not understand:
1. in the panel.cfg is mentioned a 2d panel with an dedicated bmp - but this one is just black
why to add the 2d panel as it does not realy serve
2. when flying with the VC (which is realy superb) my frame rate drops to have just a flying as in a diashow
3. still flying with the VC i noticed that with the landplanes it is not as "dramatic" as with the floatplane
4. the plane, both and land plane seem very "trim intensive" even when decreasing the power as indicated I
must trim down.
So much for first flights
Yours
Papi
Hey Papi --
Which version/model are you seeing a "black screen" where the 2D panel should be....? I have extensively tested each version and have not seen what you describe on any of them.
BB686
"El gato que camina como hombre" -- The cat that walks like a man
Hallo Blackbird,
It is the Avroes from 05.05.2018
in the panel are a bmp callad DH80 or something like that but is black / transparent
and when displaying the plane in the sime on 2d panel mode there just the gauges without any background.
As I have a serious frame rate drop on the sim when flying with the VC I made 2d panel from VC screenshots.
Yours
Papi
Been a bit 'time poor' Nigel but I've managed a few test flights.
Just so you know at the moment P3D3 flights are fine (see below), P3D4 not so!
On my system FPS impact is nothing, internal or external views.
Coming and going.
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This is all I could find regarding the Avro Tutor in South African Air Force service: (info from the SAAF Museum, Ysterplaat, Cape Town)
51 built, 50 written off charge, 1 to technical training. There was 39 at the beginning of 1939.
Serial batches: 701-751
It started off with a 215-240hp Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IV C engine, & when spares ran out, a number were fitted with uncowled Wright Whirlwind engines.
The Tutor was choses to succeed the Avro 504N in the RAF's training schools in 1932, & a total of 394 were built for the RAF.
As a result of a tour of South Africa by Alan Cobham's flying circus & trials by the SAAF, with one of his Tutors, G-AARZ, the Tutor was selected to replace the Avian IV M for SAAF training.
Following the delivery of two Avro built Tutors, a production batch of Tutors was built under license at the Aircraft and Artillery Depot at Voortrekkerhoogte (Roberts Heights) in Pretoria.
The total of 51 is thought to possibly exclude a few more built from spares at the end of the program, & which carried serial numbers of aircraft already written off.
They were used pre war by the Central Flying School (CFS), (established at Zwartkop Air Station in1932) & continued in service mainly with 62 Air School (62 AS) in WWII, with a few issued to other units.
Only one Tutor eventually survived in South Africa & this aircraft, 721, was preserved by the SA War Museum.
It was unfortunately scrapped in the mid 1950's, & the only Tutor is preserved at the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden in the UK.
I could not find any colour pictures, but the museum curator advised that they came in silver & yellow.
The only information I could find regarding roundels is from decals..
So, hopefully, may we see a Tutor in SAAF colours?
Regards,
Robin
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