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    Sticky: Thank you for the picture It flew end of...

    Thank you for the picture

    It flew end of 1910 , from land and water . It is said to return to Berlin as an auto (?


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    Sticky: Interesting , those early Alfaro designs . If...

    Interesting , those early Alfaro designs .

    If I believe this pdf , the glider is probably not the Alfaro 1 (please , go to p.227)
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    Sticky: This was a modified Bahnbedarf D II

    This was a modified Bahnbedarf D II
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    Sticky: I don't know the mysterious bird , but , as I saw...

    I don't know the mysterious bird , but , as I saw the picture , I remembered this one showing the Grade Typ D and E at the ILA 1912 .

    About later Grade designs (Kunstflug ED , Militär ED etc...),...
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    Sticky: Sorry for this too mysterious bird : this is the...

    Sorry for this too mysterious bird : this is the Götz 50 built in 1985 by the brothers Zettl (Löhnberg).
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    Sticky: It was pictured three times in Aero Kurier...

    It was pictured three times in Aero Kurier 1985/1986 ...

    If nothing new tomorrow , I will give the solution ...
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    Sticky: Sorry , it seems to be more confidential than I...

    Sorry , it seems to be more confidential than I thought .

    Designed and built by two brothers , it got the O.U.V. (Oscar Ursinus Verein) Preis in 1985 . It had a D-Mxyz registration .
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    Sticky: From the 1985/1986 years ...

    From the 1985/1986 years ...
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    Sticky: This is a German bird ...

    This is a German bird ...
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    Sticky: The next Mystery plane , for your enjoyment :...

    The next Mystery plane , for your enjoyment :
    (about the Bruno Lange's books , I think , the best choice is : Bildteil of the "Das Buch der deutshen Luftfahrttechnik" (more than 2000 ! photos, no...
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    Sticky: Me too ... I don't know the source of Moses...

    Me too ...

    I don't know the source of Moses picture , but the same was published in 1931 here : Flying Magazine - Google Livres

    In "Popular Aviation" it is said to have been built by Joseph...
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    Sticky: Pomme homme is right : here the Mistral intended...

    Pomme homme is right : here the Mistral intended for the coupe Deutsch :

    http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65546767.item
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    Sticky: If I believe an "Aviation Magazine" which...

    If I believe an "Aviation Magazine" which described all the Levasseur ( two pages for the PL-7 , with much text ), the challenge bird is :

    LEVASSEUR PL-7 No 17 " "de 16,50 mètres" , renforced...
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