It'll be hard to improve upon Milton's offerings, but it appears that Carenado has D18 in the works...
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Port...8868581901.jpg
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It'll be hard to improve upon Milton's offerings, but it appears that Carenado has D18 in the works...
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Port...8868581901.jpg
I suppose it will be nice to have an updated model, but I can't say I've enjoyed flying any of Carenado/Alabeo's aircraft for quite some time.
..and really hard to repaint probably
Well, it's about time someone did a nice model of this aircraft. I for one am happy to see it. My old unit is 12 years old and I think this is an exciting development much needed in the FSX/P3D world.
Saluté :applause:
Hallelujah! Couldn't agree more with Milton. I've looking forward to an brand new D-18 for a long time. It's been great to have freeware to fly but I am really glad that this aircraft is being built from scratch for FSX and beyond. Can't wait to see the new VC.
I wish Simcoders would produce their reality expansion packs for Carenado airplanes in the FSX/P3D environment as well :banghead:
Without this, and combined with the "almost impossible to repaint" problems mentioned earlier, I'm afraid this D-18 is not going to be very interesting...
It's Carenado, so it is guaranteed to be an absolutely stunning visual model. Beyond that... I'll likely pass.
I wish they would have done a different model. Milton did one, which is still a classic, and there are others out there as well. Maybe if they did a G model with three-bladed props and the newer wing and slightly longer nose on it, which can be modded into a Volpar very easily, I would be getting excited. What's next, another 172? I also go along with the unpaintable comments as well. BUT ....... it WILL look pretty.
Don
Sticking with Milton. As much as how super their visual models are, both Carenado and Alabeo are the most aggravating to repaint. I like to personalize the aircraft I "fly".
Until they change their paint kit ways (don't hold your breath) this is another pass. Keep up your good work Milton.:applause:
Looking at that model, that is one element that is still missing... self reflection. Notice the cowl reflection on the fuselage. I'v tried that once on the Howard.
it's not so much the paintkit ways, I find the white textures perfectly easy to paint, I may even prefer them over regular psd paintkits, much easier on my old system. Here's one to prove my point:
http://fs-snaps.com/images/2017/10/30/jk2570.jpg
No, it's the lay-out of the textures that is the problem. Bit and pieces all over the place, cut up fuselages, sometimes rotated relative to each other as well.. I tried really hard to make some decent paints for the Aerocommander, but it was just too complicated. Remember, I do this for fun, and there was no fun in that one. So as long as they make a model with a half decent texture lay-out, count on paints from me. If not, forget it.
It definitely looks stunning :applause:
https://abload.de/img/33455487_171112542896zco6h.jpg
https://abload.de/img/33328850_1711125525639qrf4.jpg
https://abload.de/img/33397504_171112553896rcoi3.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/Carenado/
Greetings
Tim
Milton yours is going to be hard to beat...
Ted
And Milt's D18 probably flies better and has better systems !
Sue
Sometimes..........:banghead::banghead::banghead:
I've submitted this livery for them to paint. It was ferried to Germany a few years back. I was able to meet the pilots and check out the plane... stunning :)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1749/...56dbb3d9_o.jpgIMG_2330 by ryan b, on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1725/...316fb943_o.jpgIMG_2338 by ryan b, on Flickr
Looking forward to the D18 and will be a must have purchase for me, as it is one of my favorite aircraft. I will keep Milton's and the FCS model asa they fulfill different functions.
I'll be buying this Carenado model in a heartbeat/just as soon as it is released. A great, great choice of aircraft.
A Matt Younkin version would also be great
https://i.imgur.com/P2B7wgk.jpg
Twin Beech is just a remarkable airplane. That bare metal scheme Carenado is showing is a real "Looker!"
With glass cockpit? :-(
Yes there is glass in the cockpit...
on the steamgauges...
https://scontent.fams1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...81&oe=5BB8C1F4
:pirate:
Marcel
Then I'm in! :-)
Hey guys,
sorry for hijacking this thread but I was just wondering: what makes repainting of carenado aircraft so difficult? I didn't do much repainting before - other than my own aircraft - so I really don't know...
ooh I understand. So when there is a box the six sides are split up and end up at seemingly random locations on the texture map?
looking forward to a new D18
Carenado has posted some more pictures on their Facebook page:
https://abload.de/img/36264270_174917850515oksqd.jpg
https://abload.de/img/36650083_176095051731ltsud.jpg
https://abload.de/img/36241829_174917833849kiswl.jpg
https://abload.de/img/35882557_174917868182nashs.jpg
Greetings
Tim
This beauty is most definitely a keeper for me. A first rate VC is what I've been waiting for. Card at the ready. Hope it comes out soon. In fact, as luck would have it, a Beech D18 flew over my house yesterday.
Wow look at that view from the VC ! :dizzy:
Superb modelling, as expected from Carebeo. :applause:
Ooooh! Perhaps they're doing the red livery I posted!
Yes, they do! And it looks excellent :)
https://abload.de/img/36570934_1760950773980as2s.jpg
https://abload.de/img/36587410_176095060731ztsch.jpg
Greetings
Tim
IT'S OUT NOW :redfire:
Just got mine, and took a short flight. Beautiful, just beautiful. :encouragement:
I think they might have a few left if your hurry. :playful:
It handles really well and has a great sound.
5 stars.
Very expensive though for anyone living in
Australia...Almost $50 Aud.
An absolutely beautiful aircraft, but (with apologies to Anthin) to me it sounds awful and flies nothing like a real Model 18.
Worse, it has lots and lots of silly problems. Carenado says they'll fix them "soon," but....
See https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/5...-flight-model/
I've temporarily added Milton's wonderful sounds and fiddled with the AIR and CFG files so it is flyable, but unless your willing to do that I'd stay away until they release an update.
But, dang, it's beautiful!
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=61781&stc=1
Oh my. It's already bad enough that you are flooding another forum with your super-negativity and your apparently faulty installation and/or faulty joystick setup.
You might not believe it, but there are real pilots who are actually enjoying the Carenado D18 in its present form!
Btw, posting unauthorized FDE 'modifications' is an absolute no-go and comparing a FDE to a repaint shows how little you know about FDE design.
FYI, rest assured, the FDE will not be changed, or at least not significantly, in any future patch.
@Anthin, don't let tailspin45 spoil your fun with the D18. His 'bug' reports concerning the FDE are at least questionable.
Full disclaimer: I have NO experience in a Beech D18S and no real world reference for my comments.
Just for grins, I compared the aircraft.cfg files from Milton's FSX port available for download here at SOH and the aircraft config from the Carenado model. Some specific differences:
-the differences between the 2 cfg files regards empty weight, flight tuning, etc are really small in general. However.....
-Milton's is fully loaded with passenger weight and the Carenado has only a pilot (no copilot) in the station weights. this should make Milton's "heavier" in takeoff and increase the stall speed.
-the MOIs on the Carenado are significantly larger than Milton's. I suspect Milton has used a specific MOI calc model and Carenado has generalized numbers. this should make the Carenado more sluggish in roll and pitch.
i have not (and will not) look at the .air files.
be back in a minute with my popcorn.
1. Wrong assumption and I don't know how you want to 'generalize' MOI values. Furthermore MOI numbers have very little to do with sluggishness etc.
2. It's exactly the opposite. The Carenado D18 has very high roll rate at high speed (70deg/sec)….that's the same value like the real D18..
3. Without looking at the airfile, the core, you can't even remotely judge a FDE.
state your expertise and experience. otherwise you are a poser.
PS are you afraid to post at Avsim?
You can check your assertion about roll rate by watching Matt Younkin's performance. With full throw on the yoke, doing about 200 mph, it takes a fraction over 8 seconds for him to complete a 360-degree roll. At your 70 deg/sec rate he would have been able to complete 560º, more than a roll and half. And keep in mind he's flying a very light aircraft with minimum fuel.Quote:
The Carenado D18 has very high roll rate at high speed (70deg/sec)….that's the same value like the real D18..
BTW, I love the way the aircraft looks and have flown it over 10 hours in the last three days. I'm simply reporting the problems I've discovered so others won't be befuddled by problems or think it somehow represents how the real aircraft flies.
I do think Carenado should be embarrassed for releasing an aircraft in such poor shape, however. If it was billed as pre-release I'd have no gripe, and would be happy to help as I have other developers.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=61794&stc=1