• Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 22:33
    Thanks guys. My old AS He 115 had sprung leaks in its floats.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 22:27
    Thanks for clarifying that Shadow Wolf. I didn't explain it very well. By doing so, you can hover a Storch over the Graf Zeppelin's deck or take off like a helicopter in it.
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  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 11:43
    Jagd: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think you can't set wind in Mission Builder (MB). You have to set wind direction and speed in Free Flight (FF) along with altitude. Then you go to the FF section of the cfs2.cfg file and copy the wind data. Lastly, you paste this data in the weather section of the mission .mis file. If you reopen the mission in MB and save it again, the wind zeroizes and you'll have to cut and paste it again. I'm pretty sure this is explained with visual aids in Cody Coyote's Mission Builder Tutorial, found here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/ldm-silk-icons/download.png
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  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 08:12
    In Fort Walton Beach, Florida, the surviving Doolittle Raiders gathered publicly for the last time. They once were among the most universally admired and revered men in the United States. There were 80 of the Raiders in April 1942, when they carried out one of the most courageous and heart-stirring military operations in this nation's history. The mere mention of their unit's name, in those years, would bring tears to the eyes of grateful Americans. Now only four survive. After Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, with the United States reeling and wounded, something dramatic was needed to turn the war effort around. Even though there were no friendly airfields close enough to Japan for the United States to launch retaliation, a daring plan was devised. Sixteen B-25s were modified so that they could take off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. This had never before been tried -- sending such big, heavy bombers from a carrier. The 16 five-man crews, under the command of Lt. Col. James Doolittle, who himself flew the lead plane off the USS Hornet, knew that they would not be able to return to the carrier. They would have to hit Japan and then hope to make it to China for a safe landing. But on the day of the raid, the Japanese military caught wind of the plan. The Raiders were told that they would have to take off from much farther out in the Pacific Ocean than they had counted on. They were told that because of this they would not have enough fuel to make it to safety. And those men went anyway. They bombed Tokyo, and then flew as far as they could. Four planes crash-landed; 11 more crews bailed out, and three of the Raiders died. Eight more were captured; three were executed. Another died of starvation in a Japanese prison camp. One crew made it to Russia. The Doolittle Raid sent a message from the United States to its enemies, and to the rest of the world: We will fight.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 08:05
    I think that Vidal and Shadow Wolf have part of the solution for you. Many planes, including the stock MS CFS 2 aircraft, don't use lift in the flaps as that confuses the AI performance for some reason. Given that, I usually keep stock planes with stock flight models for AI use and then use a properly built air file for the player planes. I'm able to then get off of the decks, especialy, if as noted above, you have your CV steaming at 28 to 30 knots into the wind. Setting wind up is best done in the Mission Builder. The green ghost gauge can be set up to act as a catapult or super WEP, but it's been a while since I've used it. Perhaps one of our more nautically inclined members can fill you in on that. If not, instructions come with the gauge. It used to be available here, but if it's AWOL, you can get it at the larger sites.
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  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 07:52
    I can't speak for jets, but for prop planes: The aircraft is close to the fantail... set park brake and pull back on the stick (this will help to keep you from "nosing over") while you increase power to full. Hit WEP and release the park brake and ease up on the stick. I have found that stock planes and many downloads do not have significant lift modeled in with the flaps. Ergo, all the flaps do in that case is increase drag and slow you down. Test the plane: while flying level, hit the flaps. Does it stay level or does it rise? If it rises then lift is modeled in with the flaps. If not, do not use flaps on take off. Special case: For 1% planes, follow the checklist and follow instructions on setting trim for take off. :salute: You can also increase the carrier's speed and/or add a headwind to the mission as stated above.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 07:49
    Lookin' good Falcon. I'll bet that you were stationed there at some point in your career. In the early 70s when I was stationed at Fort Hood (3 hours south), I used to go to the BX on Carswell while visiting my Uncle who was stationed there with SAC. Watching a gaggle of Buffs blast out along with their KC-135s was a sight and sound that will live with me forever. The sky was black from the water injected exhaust of all those engines at maximum take off thrust. Oh yeah, there used to be fair bass fishing on the lake on the north side of Carswell. When flying my AS/Virtavia B-36, I generally take off from Carswell and fly up to Eielson AFB in Alaska and then often over to Thule in Greenland before heading back to Texas.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 07:39
    As a young lad, I just could never figure out how he flew that aeroplane with the gas tank where the windshield should have been. Still can't quite imagine it. As you all probably know, Lucky Lindy had rock star fame after that, and suffered the kidnapping and killing of his son possibly as a result. He fell into disfavor with the US Government due to his active membership in, what was it, the America First organization? He was stripped or resigned his commission in the army reserve over it all and was denied service with the military in WWII. As an employee of Lockheed, he went on to pioneer fuel saving techniques for the P-38s in the SW Pacific and if stories are to be believed, shot down a couple of Japanese aeroplanes.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 07:23
    Jagdflieger replied to a thread Militracks 2013! in The NewsHawks
    Ferry and Francois, Thanks for the answer on my question. I suspected the same even before I asked it. I understand the sensitivities of Europeans, but the fully restored vehicles with authentic markings just beg to have a similarly dressed crew. At any rate, love the photos and I wish that I could have been there! I hope to get to Europe again later this year and I want to put the Netherlands on the schedule If I can, I will shoot you guys a PM and hopefully we can hoist your best dutch brew and talk about "Sonderkraft Farhzeuge mit Ketten und gepanzerte Kampfwagen." By the way, perhaps 20 years ago, while on leave visiting my parents in Western Colorado, we were driving on Interstate 70 between the small towns of Debeque and Parachute and there was a SdKfz 251 parked in the sage desert with no one about just north of the highway. It wasn't painted authentically, but was camouflaged none the less. It was in the middle of nowhere. I never could figure that one out.
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  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 06:50
    Danke schoen ! :salute:
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 06:41
    Shadow Wolf, Use this Bf-109 as a replacement: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=54&id=15662
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 03:56
    I think I narrowed the problem down to the SU_BF109F_2 and it's sister SU_BF109F_4. This seems to be the common denominator between the three missions where a crash occurs soon after the aircraft come within tracking or visual range. I tried adjusting the underscores _ and capitalization in folder name compared to the .cfg. I even tried original and optional skins, all to no avail. Since Rami and Kdriver can't duplicate the problem, I'm writing it off as another Windows 8 glitch. This ought to make testing the German side missions very interesting, whereas, I am told, these planes are used quite frequently in that campaign. Since this is so, and if I have the same problems again, I'll give up and pick it up with the Italian campaign portion of this set. Moving on...
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 03:32
    Kelti, http://www.mudpond.org/
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  • kelticheart's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 03:22
    Hi Blood_Hawk23, I wasn't aware there was a limited-use AirWrench freeware version available. Where can it be downloaded from? Thank you! KH :ernae:
    11 replies | 221 view(s)
  • kelticheart's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 02:27
    A good day to everybody! I recently found over at Flightsim.com Payakan's vere nice Heinkel He115B floatplane for FS8/9 and I took the liberty to convert it to CFS2. The He115 was involved a lot in the 1940 Norwegian German campaign and it filled sea-patrol, anti-shipping and anti-submarine warfare duties over the North Sea until the B&W131 took over. The only other He115 available for CFS2 is a quite outdated model from Alphasim's oldies. Unfortunately, the conversion did not carry over propeller animation for the starboard engine, as you can see from the attached screenie. The control surfaces animations are ok, while there's no cockpit nor bomb bay door animation. I could live with the latter, but not with a spinning prop and a dead one. If anyone can correct this visual problem, I am attaching the converted mdl, while the flight model and dp derive directly from Alphasim's He115 with only very few mods to avoid the plane from dropping down in the water when spawned by Free Flight. Included are my updated propeller textures, plus the propeller blade texture I repainted in Luftwaffe-style solid black (the original has Allied-style yellow tipped prop blades). I hope to come up soon with a wake and splash floatplane effect for this plane.
    3 replies | 122 view(s)
  • kelticheart's Avatar
    May 20th, 2013, 01:04
    You're welcome, Hurricane3! CFS2 has its own limitations, even if it's definitely the most "open end" simulator I ever saw. CFS3, for example, is very far from being as flexible. The overload patch goes up against a built-in limit that is probably due to the borderline imposed by Windows9 OS, total RAM that the OS was capable to handle at the time and hardware limits when CFS2 was first released. In spite of it all, it's amazing the foresight applied by MS programmers, because CFS2 can still be used to great satisfaction even if it must be run in a 32-bit window of a 64-bit environment. The 4Gb RAM patch was a great addon, that lent more enjoyable life to the senior sim. I could not but compare CFS2 with something else while I was watching, over this weekend, some DVDs published by "Volare" (Flying), an Italian aviation-dedicated monthly magazine. That 3-piece DVD collection features films produced by the History Channel: "Wildcats vs. Zeros", "Sabres vs. MiG15's" and "PhantomII's vs. MiG21's", respectively WWII, Korea and Vietnam dogfight accounts of those famous warbirds. Those movies rely heavily on computer animated parts to rebuild combat sequences from various viewing angles and, obvioulsy, the graphics are stunning. But, if you want my opinion, the sheer animation movements of the aircrafts leaves something to desire to my eyes, at times it simply does not look too natural in the way an aircraft would move in the air if we compare it to, for example, gun camera footage of actual air-to-air combats.
    17 replies | 372 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 19:36
    Rami replied to a thread SC? in CFS2 General Discussion
    Hey, If you're referring to sc7500, I keep in contact with him on a regular basis. Without going into extreme detail, Bruce (sc7500) has some major health issues, and goes through what I can only describe as sheer hell to try and maintain a modicum of normalcy, despite his health issues. The treatments he is forced to endure have pretty substantial side effects, including partial blindness, fuzzy vision, and other issues. Until they get things right again, he's taking a break from CFS2 because he can't focus his eyes enough to do any .dp work. I lift him up in prayer frequently, believe me.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 15:01
    Nice! They'll fit in nicely.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 14:44
    Thanks Milt! I enjoyed perusing the site and discovered that I had never downloaded the Puss Moth. How in the world did I ever sim without it???? All your other aircraft have done sterling service in CFS 2 and FS 9 for years.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 14:20
    Jagdflieger replied to a thread Militracks 2013! in The NewsHawks
    Wow!!!! Great photos and thanks for sharing. That museum is on my list of places to go. That last photo is of an M-18 "Hellcat" tank destroyer. A fast, but lightly armored vehicle with a high velocity 76mm main gun. Reputed to be one of the fastest armored fighting vehicles ever. Hellcat link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Hellcat
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 11:56
    Misson, I'll be interested to try these out, thank you so very much! :salute:
    5 replies | 138 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 19th, 2013, 11:53
    Allen, Thank you for this, this is outstanding work! :ernae:
    10 replies | 185 view(s)
  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 17:07
    I'll test the fix in the AM - too tired right now
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 16:49
    Kevin, I removed the "use all your ammo" mantra. Basically, get in...get your hits...and get the hell outta dodge! We also got the problems ironed out with the Sky Unlimited Bf-109f.
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 15:15
    Congratulations to the young lady! That's a major milestone in life. I wish her the best with her future plans. I left HS early (in my junior year) to join the Army, but I made up for it with a GED and then a Bachelor's of Science degree later on. Both of those were courtesy of the Army and the GI Bill. I got to come home from a deployment to see my son graduate. He's now a soldier. I was between deployments when my daughter graduated and she is now at university. I was never prouder than when I watched my two children graduate so I fully understand your pride and probably your tears at your daughter's accomplishment. By the way, I was just in Stuttgart last year visiting some army buddies and the two sons of one of them are going to the American High School there.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 12:17
    Hey guys, I have a late afternoon dinner out, but I should be home by six. You can tell my mom's reached "the senior zone..." she likes dinner earlier and earlier. She didn't want to go out on Mother's day because of the crowds.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 12:15
    Mark, I sent the files to both you and Jagdflieger this afternoon.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 12:13
    Mario, Here is the third mission description...I'm still working on the mission itself. "title_string"=Operation Mezzagosto - A greeting by Der spaten "summary_string"=Achtung, Meine Herren! After gaining intelligence on the fleet's location earlier in the day, we have decided to greet the massive Pedestal convoy with a combined raid of both level & torpedo bombers. Your target is the carrier HMS Indomitable. "objective_string"=Through the early evening of 11 August, 1942, the Pedestal convoy sustained the first significant air attacks of the battle by four successive waves of Axis bombers: thirty Junkers Ju-88s & six He-111 torpedo planes were just one attack. In this raid, no hits were scored on the vessels, and two of the Ju-88s were shot down. "intelligence_string"=The enemy convoy sighted yesterday is now within range of Sardinia. We're prepared to execute the first assault. Take your place in an Heinkel He-111 torpedo bomber and direct your torpedoes toward the enemy carriers. The Ju-88 bombers will attack the remainder of the enemy fleet. Und passen Sie auf sich auf! "player_aircraft_name_string"=Heinkel He-111h-6 "airfield_string"=Sardinia - Elmas
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 12:11
    Mario, Here is the scoop for mission two... "title_string"=Operation Mezzagosto - Dreifinger reconnaissance "summary_string"=Kamerad, herhören! After being alerted by French reconnaissance that the enormous Pedestal convoy entered the Mediterranean, we gained intelligence from our own source as to where the Allied convoy should be. Your mission is to find and photograph them. Make sure that you take the pictures and get home without incident! "objective_string"=The Pedestal convoy was identified at about 0830 hours on 11 August, 1942 by a Ju-88 bomber on a reconnaissance mission. Once the Pedestal convoy was spotted, the Axis forces sat & waited for the convoy to get within range of their airbases, then raided it during an evening assault by bomb-laden Ju-88s and torpedo-carrying He-111s. "intelligence_string"=Once airborne, hold a west-southwesterly heading and climb up to a cruising height of 5,500 meters. The estimated convoy position is to the southwest of the Baleric islands. Once over the convoy, hold a steady course and speed as you photograph, but don't stray above 5,700 meters, or the photos will lack detail. Once this is completed, you may return to Sardina. Hals und Beinbruch! "player_aircraft_name_string"=Junkers Ju-88a-11 (Italy, 1941) "airfield_string"=Sardinia - Elmas
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  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 11:50
    That makes it even stranger. I'm gonna ask Rami to send me a fresh copy of those;;.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 09:00
    As noted above, nothing with Chrome.
    9 replies | 237 view(s)
  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 18th, 2013, 03:48
    Missions 12 and 13 went well. Mission 13 is a turkey shoot, but challenging nonetheless. Except for missions 8, 10 and 11 this concludes the Allied portion of the campaign set. Missions 10 and 11 went the same way as Mission 9. They hung up and crashed as soon as the enemy aircraft spawned in. Rami has said he'll work this out later.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 17th, 2013, 21:07
    Heart touching indeed.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 17th, 2013, 17:35
    Hey guys, I'm tired and cranky tonight...tomorrow I will work on all of this...right now I need a good night's sleep.
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 17th, 2013, 08:34
    I got hung up on Mission 8 - it crashed twice, right at the point that the enemy aircraft spawned in. Rami and I will sort that out. But in the meantime, I am flight testing the remaining missions as individual, single missions. Mission 9 went well and I'll be loading up and flying Missions 10 and 11 after lunch today. :salute: SW
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 17th, 2013, 08:11
    Jagdflieger replied to a thread Militracks 2013! in The NewsHawks
    good luck with the weather guys! I hope the sun shines on you and all those tracked vehicles. Remember to get some good photos for us poor people that couldn't attend.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 21:40
    Another cool destination for our imaginations in the cyber skies of FS 9. I'm looking forward to some touch and goes.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 18:45
    Jagdflieger, Thanks! :redface: Considering the quality of your work over the years, I consider that extremely high praise. :salute: I'm come to really appreciate the things you can do with Xavierb's piers in tight spaces, where elevation away from the coast rises quickly. While wolfi's large piers are great for flat spaces with few curves, they just don't offer the same flexibility. You can also create different pier formations and all other kinds of neat tricks!
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 18:44
    Mario, I completed the second mission tonight, but I'm too tired to re-write the mission text. The mission is a second reconnoitre, this time from a German Ju-88 based on Sardinia...higher up at 5,500 meters. After this mission, you will participate in an evening torpedo run onboard a Heinkel He-111.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 17:11
    Thanks for that Fibber. That truly was a strategic strike.
    3 replies | 114 view(s)
  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 17:10
    Well done Rami! That livened the place up a bit.
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  • Jagdflieger's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 16:54
    I'm behind the power curve when it comes to new movies (usually am), but I do want to see Iron Man 3 as I enjoyed the first two episodes. Perhaps this weekend I'll drag the wife to the theater to see it. The two most recent movies that I've seen were "Hansel und Grettle" and the latest rendition of the "Wizard of Oz." I enjoyed both of those and I wish I could have seen Hansel und Grettle in 3d. It was really a fun movie.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 09:46
    Jinx, The props will generate two times as much thrust, making for a better climb rate, increased takeoff performance, and a higher top speed. The downside? Your range will be chopped by half.
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  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 08:32
    Misson, Sólo quería hacerle saber que no me he olvidado de hacer la parte del eje de pedestal. No puedo decir que voy a trabajar en este proyecto a una velocidad vertiginosa, pero la operación Mezzagosto está en marcha, y estoy usando las misiones pedestal como una base para "dar la vuelta" y convertirlos en misiones Axis-temáticas. La primera es una Vichy reconnoitre francesa del convoy justo después de entrar en el Mediterráneo ... Yo no quiero darte algo demasiado difícil para empezar, ¿sabes? In English... I just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about doing the Axis side to Pedestal. I can't say I will work on this project at breakneck speed, but Operation Mezzagosto is underway, and I am using the Pedestal missions as a base to "flip" them and turn them into Axis-themed missions. The first is a Vichy French reconnoitre of the convoy just after it enters the Mediterranean...I didn't want to give you something too difficult to start, you know? "title_string" = Funcionamiento Mezzagosto - Intrus dans la Méditerranée! "summary_string" = Ecoutez, les pilotes français! Un enorme convoy aliado ha entrado en el Mediterráneo, y es nuestra tarea para analizar la composición de este convoy y pasar la información a nuestros amigos alemanes e italiano cerca de Cerdeña y Sicilia. El convoy no está a su alcance por el momento. Las operaciones de combate pueden depender de la inteligencia, así que vamos a conseguir es correcta la primera vez!
    7 replies | 178 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 05:33
    Kdriver, I can try reducing the amount of destroyers to two...but I'm in Shadow Wolf's camp here...I can survive it if I go in low and fast. :icon_lol:
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
  • Rami's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 05:31
    Jinx, Sure, but in what context? Are you talking about in Mission Builder, or actual flight characteristics? If it's the latter, the quick and dirty way is to increase the thrust and engine scalars in the .cfg file above 1.0. Otherwise, it can be done by modifying data entries such as empty weight, manifold pressure, horsepower, compression ratio, cylinder displacement, and number of cylinders in the engine.
    11 replies | 221 view(s)
  • Shadow Wolf 07's Avatar
    May 16th, 2013, 04:53
    Mission 6 is now survivable, provided you don't try more than 3 passes. :) Get in, hit hard and get out fast. I found that flying as a wingman, you sometimes "lose" the return waypoint. I did so here and had to fly 21o miles back to base with a heavily damaged bird. A great mission Rami! Now, on to Missions 7 and beyond!
    47 replies | 829 view(s)
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