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Fibber, I looked on Google Earth, and found the evidence of a Sub Pen and breakwater that you described. Is this what you had in mind?

Thanks, Bill. Good stuff. The challenges (and learning curve) are coming from adding textures and porting over some aircraft from FS9. I'm learning that when textures are added to FSX aircraft, not all the readme.txt entries are consistent which in turn caused the issue I first posted. Same goes for some port-over aircraft from FS9 as the FS9 aircraft.cfg goes by different rules.

Dumonceau, do not give up. It took me awhile to master the startup. Only after I watched the video on YouTube several times did I get it down right. BTW, the Milviz T-38 is just as challenging. --WH

Tobob, Getting closer...this is with the WC_030_020.bgl and LC_030_020.bgl in the Scenedb\World\Scenery folder. I was also able to fix Dakar's harbor island by moving the watermask file into the Scenedb\World\Scenery folder.

Yes, that's true. My solution to that, because I have all of his scenery packages installed, is to have a common folder called "Tobob land and watermasks" for those files, and then have the "TB_xxxxx" folders separately. Yes, as you correctly fixed. I correctly anticipated, because the layout box is about six miles in rectangle form, that it would be a multi-gob GSL file. Before using GSLedit, I ran it through Gob checker, which split the layout into three parts. I hadn't done that yet with the layout file because I wanted some input and feedback from Kelticheart, and now Jagdflieger, and if possible, Xavierb.

in a word yes I tried that ,then the plane won't show up at all.

Stefano, I am well, though I had a meeting before the school board recently because some parents didn't like the content I was teaching. (The Banana wars, Sanford Dole and US economic interests Vs Hawaii, US occupation of Haiti, putting the Shah in power, Eisenhower sending the Marines into Lebanon, etc.) Because I was not espousing my own beliefs on the students and was well entrenched in the facts, the school board, the teacher's union, and the school principal backed me 100%. Mom's also been reasonably stable in dialysis, so that's a plus. And, my eldest daughter is going to be five soon! Yikes, huh? I am attaching a beta testing package here for you. I don't think you'll have problems with this, but you need the scenery for the layout to work properly. I included a couple of modified files I use that were given to me by Robert John at my request. Let me know if you can't find anything, or if something looks funny!

I don't know why some Burnage Typhoons will take off ,others won't budge,Guess I'll live without these Tiffys. One other thing ,I tried to install the F6F5C 1% Hellcat but although it showed up in my plane list in the CFS2 root tree it doesn't show in the sim.I noticed it doesn't have a DPC file,could that be the cause?

Well, my head has been warped from the start of the project. So it's OK. LOL! So far I have the door, and the tail surfaces animated. The door speed is fine. The tail surfaces however are too fast. Animation length on them are 0-100. I think that's a little short for duration is why the speed seems too fast. It's been trial and error up to this point on what gets animated up/down or left/right first. Thanks everyone for steering me the right direction.

nice work pal... here's my current work in progress, projected for sale with Classic Air Force in Newquay...

Stoney, Try downloading it again, I included the textures this time. When Tobob sends the files to me, he knows I have the textures, so he doesn't send them anymore. My fault! :banghead:

It's a bit difficult to tell the differences from the model to the real thing. Real nice piece of work!

You ain't gonna believe this.... but I figured it out. You might want to sit down for this one. As I mentioned earlier, I purchased the Flight Leader X from Warbirdsim and added a lot of repaints. Well, what I found out is that the entry for had a different ui_manufacturer= entry. Every one of the entries including the default textures had a ui_manufacturer= North American. The only one that showed up properly had ui_manufacturer= North American Aviation (all without quotes, BTW). As it just so happens my install of the Warbirdsim P-51D also has ui_manufacturer= North American Aviation, so this might have been a factor as well. Anyways, all I had to do was to make every manufacturer entry as 'North American Aviation' and now all the aircraft are listed under Warbirdsim. :isadizzy:

There are 53 entries The changes only affect , meaning it is the only aircraft that appears under a "Single Engine Prop" or "Warbirdsim". The additions I made to each aircraft were copied from another, working aircraft.cfg. The only thing modified was for 'ui_createdby='. I'm still trying to figure out why 1 out of 53 works, but the other 52 do not. If there is a typo, I haven't found it. Sigh. :sleep:

Tobob, If you look at the St. Nazaire thread, I was able to fix the .dp files so that they will load in missions, so there is no rush. I included the fixed .dp files in the La Rochelle package on June 15th. Were you able to look at the Bermuda pics in the "success" thread?

I'm not that daft - I wasn't fooled for a minute by all those curls; spotted ya first time! (Seriously, good to hear from you, Pete :wavey:)

Good morning, Here is the GSL scenery package, as promised. Many thanks to tobob for the files! :salute:

A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Scenery Add-Ons Description: This is Tobob’s St. Nazaire scenery, with contributions from Rami. This package is for CFS2, & is used in the Battle for Europe campaign. Tobob has graciously donated his coastlines and land class to the project, allowing for me to build GSL scenery for the port & sub pen areas without the interference of detatched coastlines resulting from the interaction between Sander's Europe scenery and Rhumbaflappy's newer world water masks. Tobob deserves much of the credit for this scenery package, he did more than the lion’s share of the effort, in that the land class, coastlines, water masks, and elevation mesh were all created by him. A credit also goes to Talon, who walked me (Rami) through analyzing the .dp file to figure out the naming flaw that was preventing the object from generating a .cdp file. My contribution to this scenery package was the placement of objects from our various designers to create the placements for the dockyards, sub pen, and lighthouses to bring some measure of life to St. Nazaire, and then use those layouts to create the GSL scenery. The additional layout for ship, vehicle, and anti-aircraft gun placement was also created by me.

Thanks so much for showing me how to edit the file, now I have another problem,mostly with Burnage's Typhoons,and that is they won't move even with full throttle and brakes off. Any ideas on how to get these planes to move? Thanks for your input.

Hey guys, I just finished updating that two "Battle for Europe" missions that were specifically waiting for St. Nazaire. I just have to write a readme for the St. Nazaire package, and I will upload the scenery package tomorrow. I had a wonderful father's day today! :wiggle:

the Greek Phantoms are regularly found at Andravida AB, Tanagra AB, Larissa AB... occasionally Aktion and sometimes Souda AB, only time you'd likely see them above Rodos is if they're toying with a Turkish F-16 who's sniffing around the border :icon_lol: i don't think it's economics... well partially it is, but along with the A-7's they're Greeces Primary attack aircraft and until next spending review (next year) no replacements can be looked at... but in saying that Greece have looked at Flanker and Typhoon... to replace the Mirage's as i recall, Phantom once again is too loved and keeps escaping the retirement :icon_lol:

it's a pop-up window if i recall... cant for the foggiest remember which though :icon_eek:

sad to hear this i lived under the Approach at Larissa AB in Greece till i was 6 or 7-ish... Phantoms were my daily fix... used to go right over the top of the house, i remember my mum being angry once because she had put an empty glass on the wall just as a Phantom was doing a pass for some event, it hit the burners to climb right over the house and the glass went 'walkies' off the wall... me laughing, my mum shooing me away from the broken glass :icon_lol: good news is Ferry that Greece have no plans to retire theirs any time soon, they're determined to be the last Phantom Operator, so the old 'brick' (there's a saying 'the RF-4E, flying proof that given enough thrust even a brick can fly') will be about for a few years yet...

truly great news, you the man Gaffer! :ernae:

nice Gaffer, great to see a Freeware Typhoon FGR.4 (i assume) in the works! looking forwards to this!... have a beer on me! whack it on the tab! :salute::ernae:

wonder how many other SoH'ers are going? likewise with me that weekend is busy for me... arrive Friday around Midday, set up phase 1 of the 'enclave' (my tent), meet up with a friend, go walk the site, dodging any taxi'ing aircraft in the process (Was stood to the left of the C-5M just prior to startup last year, under it's wing talking to it's crew), then Saturday and Sunday work and watch the Show, then Monday watch the Departures until about 1700-1800 where i'll head to dismantle my tent and RV with my folks who'll be caravanning in the Cotswolds... then a few weeks later go Property hunting in mother Greece... all joy! :icon_lol:

Ferry, it's what Air Atlantique became, they moved from Coventry to Newquay and rebranded. i do Profile artistry for them, am on my second piece for them... the Dragon Rapides (The silver one like was at Volkel, and it's sister Ship 'Sybille', named in memory of a former volunteer pilot who flew her) first one i did was their Chipmunk (not on sale yet but 2 hang at Newquay, one in the Boss' Office i think it was, the other in the 'Departure lounge' where Pax wait for their pleasure flights) they're a living Museum so they aim to keep as much flying as they can :salute: the Air Atlantique DC-3 is a Classic Air Force airframe also, as are 2 others... G-AMPY and G-ANAF being the other two...

as Stuart said; Great photos! Stuart the 'Annie' is the only one Airworthy in Europe if i recall, Belongs to Classic Air Force at Newquay, it's a T.21 registered G-VROE... http://www.classicairforce.com/the-aircraft i was supposed to be at the Luchtmachtdagen, but a financial issue arose just a month before the show stopping me getting out there, ah well there's always next year... :jump: http://www.classicairforce.com/the-aircraft

How do I change the dp file ?What line do I change and to what value?

I'm still waiting for Zsolt to make his available for download. I'm also still surprised there are no repaints yet for the Trojan. Everyone seems to be focused on making repaints for the Simwings An-2 instead, I guess.

love the Sea Vixen... but then again i love those early twin boom jets.... last time i was at Yeovilton the SHARs and HARs were having fun there as i was 'fence-sitting'... i like the South-West, nice bit of country beats the Midlands by a long shot... but neither compare to Mother Ελλάδα, she is to me as the national motto says "Ελευθερία ή Θάνατος" :icon_lol::icon_lol: back to Yeovilton, think i might go fly some SHARs or HARs off the ramp...

Do that, Matt - Yeovilton used to be my regular aviation haunt - I love that place. Years ago, your visit was almost certainly rewarded with the Sea Fury, Firefly or Swordfish on a check flight or all three departing for an airshow. The museum was sensational - that's where I fell in love with the big American radial CATS! Big, staunch, beautifully engineered, carrierworthy babies towering over the FA birds. When I was at secondary school in Torquay during the early '70's, we'd get a Camberra flyover every Thursday as regular as clockwork (undersurfaces yellow/black diagonal stripes). A REALLY extra treat would be the appearance of a Sea Vixen - man what a lorry of a crate!

yeah Kev and Martin are a great crew... can always tell which one has the controls at take-off, Saturdays at RIAT it used to be Martin result; very elegant wing over to the 45 axis, on the Sundays was Kev... he just throws that wing over just showing how fast that roll rate can be... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETB9s2slKA4 Video from the bomb aiming blister there at RIAT 2012... flown by Kev.... in fact at 1:58 in that vid i can actually see my tent on the Military Camp :icon_lol: well our tents... a few of us form a micro-compound/enclave (Only way to describe it) :icon_lol:

... seriously, after a days profile work i go blind as a bat and am forced to put the glasses on (hate the damn things! although they are nice Tag Heuer frames :icon_lol:) back on track... i really have to get to Yeovilton sometime...

Panther, In Tuukka we trust, baby! :ernae:

Kurt, You don't put flak batteries in the GSL layer, silly. :icon_lol: But believe me...in the mission, St. Nazaire is heavily defended.

LOL :cool:

Hi Andy, thanks for the HU :wavey: I think I must have downloaded the WIP version; Looking in to it!

Good evening, I finished the work on Saint Nazaire, and turned it into GSL scenery tonight. It's not quite historically accurate, because I put the sub pen in a different place than it was in reality. In addition, CFS2 lacks dry docks as objects, so I did what I could here. All in all, I'm happy with the results. Also, as a favor to kdriver, I included the oil refinery at Donges, France, which was targeted by Allied bombers in World War II. I should be able to upload the package tomorrow morning.

sadly not for the default one over in the dark side.... yet.... but i have 3 of the 4 bases covered... thanks for the compliments regarding the mustang paints, i do have a few in the pipeline, though mostly for the Freeware Warwick Carter P-51D

BB she's a beauty really, good bunch of guys too... played Twister with them at RIAT 2011, and had a drink with them last year, it's Pilot Kev (affectionately nicknamed 'Wingover' by many) Rumens is a contact of mine... Ian you attending RIAT this year?

I already have a Blackcat PBY but didn't have to change anything.Flys great ,not sure if it's the same one ,been so long ago I'd have to go back through my backup disks to find what it is,I put it in when I first started to rebuild. Thanks for the Heads up though.

nicely done buddy! how's the Profile Artistry going by the way?

looking at it again, yeah are we sure he's there, or do i need to put my glasses on? :icon_lol:

well as a formerly qualified long range marksman i'm stumped and i'm used to picking up on VDM's (thats Visual Distinguishing Marks)... do we get a clue? :icon_lol::icon_lol:

Hello again, I put the corrected .dp file in the La Rochelle package...so now I can do the GSL package forthwith! :salute:

In general, coming to grips with new things I've yet experienced. I'm taking small bites anyway.