Milviz F-4J Blue Angels Interest?

[stovall]

Any interest in a repaint of the Milviz F-4J in the colors of the Blue Angels? The number 7 is pictured but all the tail numbers have been done.

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss169/tlstovall/Blue%20Angels%201_zpsi3rgcjpz.jpg (http://s572.photobucket.com/user/tlstovall/media/Blue%20Angels%201_zpsi3rgcjpz.jpg.html)

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss169/tlstovall/Blue%20Angels%202_zpsmhlvvdjz.jpg (http://s572.photobucket.com/user/tlstovall/media/Blue%20Angels%202_zpsmhlvvdjz.jpg.html)

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss169/tlstovall/Blue%20Angels%203_zpslf34cj9j.jpg (http://s572.photobucket.com/user/tlstovall/media/Blue%20Angels%203_zpslf34cj9j.jpg.html)

[oldmsgt]

I'd like to have one, number doesn't matter to me. Thanks.

[gray eagle]

Tom,

Check your Pm's pls. :untroubled:

[dhazelgrove]

Beautiful work. Yes, please.

Dave

[gray eagle]

Looks nice Tom.

Put me down for a Yes! :encouragement:

[StormILM]

YES! Count me in.

[Sundog]

Yes, of course. :)

[stovall]

Ok, she will be uploaded by later today or early tomorrow. Thanks for the interest. This will be the standard number 7 aircraft with a second download of all the tail numbers. You can change aircraft number by substituting the tail texture.

[scotth6]

Yes please, and thank you :wink:

Cheers,

[stovall]

Both the Milviz F-4J Blue Angels number 7 and the companion all tail numbers textures are uploaded. Enjoy!!

[oldmsgt]

Thanks Tom, looks great!
Cheers!
:ernaehrung004:
The Old MSgt

[StormILM]

Tom, got a quick question. I see your repaint doesn't have the silver/chrome leading edges on the wings and intakes. I've seen photos that seem to indicate that there were variations to that type of demarcation, possibly some periods that there were no silver/chrome leading edges (wing and intakes) but the other periods where they did. Some where the entire topside of the leading edge flaps were chrome (& partial underside) and others that seemed to have a thin strip of the chrome on the leading edges. Do you know the story behind these variations?

[stovall]

StormILM, really glad you asked the question. The chrome leading edge was something that presented a problem for me. I looked at many pictures of the Blues flying the F-4 with about half showing the chrome and the other half painted. No doubt there is a story that maybe someone can bring to light. Dave S sent me an email detailing the blue color of the Blue's F-4. The pictures in the link show the blue color to be FS 15052. This was a much darker color than previous and later aircraft. The F-4's were almost black at a distance. The problem I had is many of my pictures in the sun show a much lighter color. Such is the problem, what is the real color. I prefer to paint my known numbers. Recently while painting for payware company the project manager mentioned to paint from the pictures as time and age changes to color.

The reason I mention the about is it could be possible that the chrome leading wing edge could be linked to the color differences in time. Maybe when changing from the darker color to a lighter one those aircraft had the chrome leading edge. If Dave S reads this maybe he has the answer. Thanks for asking the question. Could be that other painters here will have the answer as well.

[Skyhawk18]

I am working on the Blue Angels #4 (NO153085). It wasn't easy to determin which color to use for the base blue. I've chosen a deep blue color. There are many illustartions and some photos of this one, and most of them shows chrome leading edges.
BUT, when studying images and illustrations of the Blue Angels F-4J, you will find several variations of blue/yellow and aircraft with/without chrome leading edges. So there is no easy answer to what is right.

I've not published my livery yet, as I am trying to get a more shiny surface on her (so far not succeeded).

Anyway - nice work on the #7 Tom! :encouragement:

[gray eagle]

I like how the panel stencils don't seem to show thru. I tried using GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome.dds to see if I could get a bit more gloss effect. See for yourself.
I also notice that the blivits are a shade of blue off from the rest of the aircraft.

Over all, I like it Tom. :encouragement: Should the AIM9's be white?

http://s9.postimg.org/7985aborj/blues.jpg


This is from a plane captains perspective (view)
http://s13.postimg.org/r2rozxa4n/blues2.jpg

[Skyhawk18]

I like how the panel stencils don't seem to show thru. I tried using GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome.dds to see if I could get a bit more gloss effect. See for yourself.
I also notice that the blivits are a shade of blue off from the rest of the aircraft.

Over all, I like it Tom. :encouragement: Should the AIM9's be white?

http://s9.postimg.org/7985aborj/blues.jpg


This is from a plane captains perspective (view)
http://s13.postimg.org/r2rozxa4n/blues2.jpg

The Blue Angels F-4 didn't carry such load :adoration:. They were normally clean. In some photos I've seen them with 4 sparrows (2 blue in front and 2 yellow rear)

[gray eagle]

I know you are correct on the load out. They normally just carried smoke pods that looked like the AIM7 sparrow (loaded in same stations as AIM 7). I remember helping to load one of the yellow
smoke pods when they were at then NAS Miramar. I guess the FSX load manager could change that maybe?



The Blue Angels F-4 didn't carry such load :adoration:. They were normally clean. In some photos I've seen them with 4 sparrows (2 blue in front and 2 yellow rear)

[StormILM]

I took the liberty of removing the stripes/markings from the yellow painted Sparrow bodies to more closely match the look of the way they were. I recall some photos showing the Sparrow bodies being split colors (the front pair being gloss blue and the aft pair being yellow) but some photos show all 4 being yellow. Users, just drop this into the texture.TS_Blue Angels folder and overwrite when prompted.
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[gray eagle]

This is what your sparrow mod looks like. Thanks.

http://s11.postimg.org/xnfk44rxv/yellow.jpg




I took the liberty of removing the stripes/markings from the yellow painted Sparrow bodies to more closely match the look of the way they were. I recall some photos showing the Sparrow bodies being split colors (the front pair being gloss blue and the aft pair being yellow) but some photos show all 4 being yellow. Users, just drop this into the texture.TS_Blue Angels folder and overwrite when prompted.
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[StormILM]

This is what your sparrow mod looks like. Thanks.

http://s11.postimg.org/xnfk44rxv/yellow.jpg

You're welcome! It was a quick 5 minutes worth of work in photoshop, then a couple more minutes adding the alpha channel back in and saving it in DDS format.

[Odie]

Thanks Tom! Early airshow memories include fond ones of watching the BA's and Thunderbirds when they were flying the Phantom. Sitting at the end of Barksdale AFB's runway, it was a bone-rattling afternoon as those big F-4s went thru their paces! Afterward, you would of course have to pick up whatever bones were rattled out of your skin and have Mom put them back in place!!!

[Navy Chief]

This may not be necessary, but I could drive down to the Blue Angel's hangar (about 45 minutes from me), and ask them exactly what the Mil-Spec paint number should be? I have no idea if this would somehow equate to colors used in simulation, but let me know if this is something you'd like me to investigate. NC

[dhazelgrove]

The FS numbers are - or are supposed to be - Blue: FS15050 and Yellow: FS13538, for those who have the FS paint chips.

This suggests to me that the aircraft were in a gloss(ish) finish.

Dave

[gray eagle]

I'd like to know if or how is it possible to have the aircraft in a clean config when it is selected and you push the fly now button. Otherwise, all this hardware is loaded on it and I have
to strip all the hardware, then, with the load manager, add the AIM7's....or do we have to use the load manager regardless? Right now it is loaded for bear and I'd prefer a slick clean version of the
Blues Bird then maybe add the AIM7 smokes.


Any interest in a repaint of the Milviz F-4J in the colors of the Blue Angels? The number 7 is pictured but all the tail numbers have been done.

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss169/tlstovall/Blue%20Angels%201_zpsi3rgcjpz.jpg (http://s572.photobucket.com/user/tlstovall/media/Blue%20Angels%201_zpsi3rgcjpz.jpg.html)