View Full Version : Accu-sim T-6 Texan video
tankerguy72
March 23rd, 2016, 11:50
A2A just released a video of the T-6 and man does it look and sound amazing.
https://youtu.be/JWJ6fPJhuZQ
StormILM
March 23rd, 2016, 11:55
Sold!!!!!!!!!!!!
Navy Chief
March 23rd, 2016, 12:06
Wow.....just WOW! NC
tankerguy72
March 23rd, 2016, 12:07
Yep I'll be a first day buyer
TuFun
March 23rd, 2016, 12:10
My next aerobatic aircraft!!! :encouragement: The sound of this beast is unbelievable!!! :adoration:
Rudyjo
March 23rd, 2016, 12:30
Glad that A2A has finally gone back to what it does best, Warbirds.
DaveB
March 23rd, 2016, 12:38
Sensibly.. a UK paint. Sold!:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)
mikewmac
March 23rd, 2016, 12:39
A2A just released a video of the T-6 and man does it look and sound amazing.
https://youtu.be/JWJ6fPJhuZQ
Wow! As Yogi used to say that video was like "deja vu all over again". Some 66 years ago I had my first airplane ride in a war surplus T-6 Texan converted for crop dusting. Being a working aircraft it wasn't as pretty as the ones in the video, but to an 8 year old it was a WWII fighter and I was awestruck to get a ride in it.:jump:
I might just have to buy the Accu-Sim model for some more trips down memory lane. :encouragement:
Daube
March 23rd, 2016, 13:05
Finally, a real plane :)
It looks absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to try it !
Ian Warren
March 23rd, 2016, 13:13
That is looking astonishing ! .. wonder what super switch will be added , maybe taking the football ADF and Spinner off, simply brilliant :encouragement:
ChipShop
March 23rd, 2016, 13:38
Incredible polished steel panel textures; be nice to see it an RAF bare metal scheme!
I'll certainly give it a go!
ChipShop:encouragement:
MustangL2W
March 23rd, 2016, 14:02
Can't wait!!! Hope that Bomber_12th will do some of his amazing repaints on this one as well. His repaints for the Warwick Carter Texan took that one completely to the next level. Some of the nicest Texans currently flying were covered by him.
YoYo
March 23rd, 2016, 14:05
Finally! :applause:
TuFun
March 23rd, 2016, 14:16
That is looking astonishing ! .. wonder what super switch will be added , maybe taking the football ADF and Spinner off, simply brilliant :encouragement:
I hope that's an option the in the maintenance hangar, no spinner.
jankees
March 23rd, 2016, 14:24
Oh yes!
My first flight ever was in a T-6, fond memories..
Alan_A
March 23rd, 2016, 15:18
As I just posted over on the A2A forums - I've been anticipating the T-6 but didn't fully "get" what I was anticipating.
Now I get it.
Wow!
T6flyer
March 23rd, 2016, 16:48
With a name like mine on here, then it has to be a certainty! ;)
Martin
txnetcop
March 23rd, 2016, 17:07
Nothing less that WOW! WOW! WOW!:jump::jump::jump:
Ted
ryanbatc
March 23rd, 2016, 18:54
The stuff they make is excellent - but I've got zero interest in this bird
When the A2A Aerostar comes out then they'll have my attention :)
Alan_A
March 23rd, 2016, 21:17
The stuff they make is excellent - but I've got zero interest in this bird
When the A2A Aerostar comes out then they'll have my attention :)
Texan not fast enough for ya, Ryan? :cool:
Flyboy208
March 23rd, 2016, 21:38
Amazing, a must have for me ! What a coincidence for me, going to fly the real thing in the next month or so, and from the front seat. Only radial engined bird I have flown to date was a T-28 back in 1992. Well done A2A ! Mike :applause:
ZsoltB
March 23rd, 2016, 23:14
:redfire: :applause:
YoYo
March 24th, 2016, 00:02
For sure "must have" type addon just pity that it's training aircraft again, not genuine armed warbird (fighter or bomber) like it was in the beginnings of A2A Simulations (maybe with TacPack also). :wavey:
Regards.
IanHenry
March 24th, 2016, 00:58
Wow, and was that Heidi in the rear cockpit?
Ian
T6flyer
March 24th, 2016, 01:18
For sure "must have" type addon just pity that it's training aircraft again, not genuine armed warbird (fighter or bomber) like it was in the beginnings of A2A Simulations (maybe with TacPack also). :wavey:
Regards.
The T-6 is every way a Warbird having seen combat in so many places....Korea, Angola, Mozambique, Kenya, Algeria, Sahara etc etc. Not just a training aircraft either, but one of the best and most used ever.
Martin
stansdds
March 24th, 2016, 01:59
I think A2A has another winner! :applause:
papab
March 24th, 2016, 02:02
I flew a Texan ,in the front seat, at Warbird Adventures in Kissimmee, Fl:
http://warbirdadventures.com/
What a blast!
Rick
YoYo
March 24th, 2016, 04:23
The T-6 is every way a Warbird having seen combat in so many places....Korea, Angola, Mozambique, Kenya, Algeria, Sahara etc etc. Not just a training aircraft either, but one of the best and most used ever.
Martin
Yes, You have right for sure but it was incidental events and isn't the main role of NA T-6.
BUT...
.... in many movies Texan served as "Zeke" :biggrin-new: .
mgchrist5
March 24th, 2016, 07:33
I can only imagine the multitude of repaints that the this plane will generate. I bet this'll be a record-seller for A2A...equally appealing to both the warbird and GA crowd. Can't wait!
tankerguy72
March 24th, 2016, 08:12
I can't wait! I've always loved the sound of the T6 and seems that no one has captured that until now
gray eagle
March 24th, 2016, 08:30
Wonder what differences there are between the AT-6 and the SNJ except for the obvious USAF/USN. As far as accuracy goes, would SNJ repaints of this AT-6 pass muster?
ThinkingManNeil
March 24th, 2016, 10:58
Holy. Freakin'. Cats. I remember posting to the A2A forum some years ago where a T-6 was discussed. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for in a Texan - and more.
Bravo, A2A!
N.
ryanbatc
March 24th, 2016, 11:00
Texan not fast enough for ya, Ryan? :cool:
Pretty much :)
Does look beautiful though - their modelling seems to improve with every new addon. Love the canopy modelling.
Alan_A
March 24th, 2016, 13:10
I hear you.
The speed's going to be a slight adjustment for me - I've gotten used to the Spit and the Mustang - but I'll deal with the tradeoff for the sake of those graphics... and being able to push the canopy open and motor along on a nice warm day...
Until I kill myself trying to land and taxi the thing, that is...
Bomber_12th
March 24th, 2016, 14:04
All this talk about speed...back in the day, this was a hot rod for all of the WWII pilots in training, and the first serious taste of real horsepower. Many pilots would have just finished mastering the Stearman Kaydet, with only 220 hp engines. Jumping into the AT-6, with its 600 horses, was a major step up. Putting the aircraft in a dive, and taking it down low, buzzing corn fields, even if you're only indicating 200 mph or so, it still seems like you're going fighter-speed.
From the book Fighters of World War II, by Jeff Ethell and Robert Sand:
"The AT-6 was the first dose of real horsepower given to Army Air Force Cadets and they took to the beefy trainer with unbridled enthusiasm, much to the horror of local townspeople who were constantly buzzed and chased at all hours of the day and night. It was intoxicating to ride behind 600 horsepower with the canopy slid back and the landing gear tucked up. A pilot's first taste of "rat racing" in trail, leader trying to shake those following, came with the Texan."
"Once we got into advanced training with a hot 600 hp airplane, we flying cadets considered it the hot rod we never could afford during the Depression. We could cruise about the Texas plains after dark, harassing train crewmen to the point of serious injury. We would spot a slow freighter ambling down the track, fly ahead of it for several miles, turn and meet the locomotive at cab level, and wait until we were right on the engine before turning on one landing light. The engineer would know that he couldn't avoid a sure collision, and order the fireman to jump before the "other train" hit. The engineer promptly slammed on the brakes and ground the wheels flat as the AT-6 roared overhead and we hightailed it back to base with our night flying training completed. This was great sport for both Army and Navy pilots." - William Bell, an AT-6 flying cadet.
Bomber_12th
March 24th, 2016, 14:11
With the Mustang repaint I recently released of "Bald Eagle", there was some talk about its once owner, James Beasley Sr. The first airplane he owned was a Cessna 182, purchased around 1973. The next step up for him was the Aerostar 600, which he purchased in 1976. In 1979, he purchased the Mustang that would become "Bald Eagle", but before that, he also purchased an SNJ/AT-6, which he flew for about a year in order to get ready for flying the Mustang (though he was already experienced in taildraggers, flying Cubs and Citabrias). Even when the Mustang was completed, he kept the SNJ/AT-6 and continued to fly it regularly - and this is the same case for most all of the high performance warbird owners - despite owning Mustangs, Corsairs, P-40's, Spitfires, etc., there is usually always an AT-6/SNJ/Harvard that is also kept in their ownership and flown regularly.
For those who are going to be owning and flying high performance single-engine WWII fighters, I think in the US the insurance companies require that you get at least 200 hrs of flight time in an AT-6 first, otherwise they won't insure you. Also, you won't probably find anyone to check you out/sign you off in any of the single-engine WWII fighters unless you have that same amount of time in the AT-6 (and with a lot of that time piloting from the back seat).
Alan_A
March 24th, 2016, 14:32
Points taken, John. Actually I'm fine with the speed and the power. Ryan, on the other hand, is a man in a hurry... :cool:
Granted that they're all more than fast enough... but in the narrow range of P-51 vs. T-6 comparisons... who was it who said that "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slowly"?
Some similar principle might apply here.
Bomber_12th
March 24th, 2016, 14:46
AT-6, the warbird. Espirtu Santo, New Hebrides, 1943.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/376/18906808961_5e9fb97669_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/495/18716277070_f59de26096_h.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5601/18283285223_c03ccdd829_h.jpg
Bomber_12th
March 24th, 2016, 14:50
AT-6, the warbird. Korea.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/432/18608806125_54985f5018_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/276/17988187713_0c18b2867e_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/473/18421138920_65e23f84e3_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/452/18420252528_e8ffa97acc_h.jpg
Bomber_12th
March 24th, 2016, 14:51
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/386/18604304462_9e68cc0029_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8882/18420181660_6328660a43_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/353/18604313322_ad48efb316_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/322/18420371858_b2dda36d9b_h.jpg
Ian Warren
March 24th, 2016, 15:12
Great photos , last one .. I heard of putting the wing on .. that guy is going above and beyond ! :adoration:
res non verba
March 24th, 2016, 15:44
Ex-Portuguese Air Force now flying at Duxford...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36371&stc=1
T6flyer
March 24th, 2016, 16:35
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/386/18604304462_9e68cc0029_h.jpg
Interesting group photo, never seen that one before. Weird in that they all appear to be either T-6Ds and Fs. Can't see a LT-6G anywhere!
Cheers,
Martin
txnetcop
March 24th, 2016, 19:24
Whew that flak or cannon shot to the right wing would have been the end for most warbirds!
Ted
paiken
March 24th, 2016, 19:44
Can't wait to take this bird through the Grand Canyon at river top level...
YoYo
March 24th, 2016, 22:58
I did this pictures on Malta this year. Naked Texan ; ))) .
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TXDOgZEKS-g/VqS0P8AujkI/AAAAAAAA4NY/378p-VTZfZQ2DrBu9W-CZHbu3vN8m_yRgCCo/s1600-Ic42/DSC_0492.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oNKr02C2pLY/VqS0GBqlrXI/AAAAAAAA4MU/s_Lf1Gd_vFMzyLJdSJYwNd6pi2gwHVN4ACCo/s1600-Ic42/DSC_0484.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L3wi98Te39o/VqS0IrD_ExI/AAAAAAAA4Mg/M3g0iGjn_oAz-Bbq_M5lgtazeLueqzx7QCCo/s1600-Ic42/DSC_0485.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V6FKZ687PNw/VqS0WJl4qfI/AAAAAAAA4OA/NcyIm0za9bQhY-hRs7zPCH7AJWupltLrQCCo/s1600-Ic42/DSC_0497.JPG
Bomber_12th
March 25th, 2016, 05:11
There are so many of these based around where I live (Twin Cities, MN), that I've often just about taken them for granted over the years. Usually during the summer, a week doesn't go by without seeing at least a couple, and sometimes as many as 4, 5 or 6 flying overhead in formation (I also have a very trained ear to be able to tell the difference between when an AT-6 flies over and when a BT-13 flies over (also based near me, and regularly flying) without looking). For most of the Texans in these photos, by Max Haynes, if I don't see them at the airport, I see them over my house on a regular basis.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/12140865_901986203171418_6247112567689146676_o_zps 2xhfpuhu.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/12140865_901986203171418_6247112567689146676_o_zps 2xhfpuhu.jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/12273564_10154437884684899_1358625175265107626_o_z psu1durj9p.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/12273564_10154437884684899_1358625175265107626_o_z psu1durj9p.jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/12244280_919456154757756_8753120525330571495_o1_zp sfjqlc5yo.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/12244280_919456154757756_8753120525330571495_o1_zp sfjqlc5yo.jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/12248133_916342865069085_6820220365908435248_o_zps samall1s.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/12248133_916342865069085_6820220365908435248_o_zps samall1s.jpg.html)
Bomber_12th
March 25th, 2016, 05:12
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/325474_10150511222054899_1986754850_o_zpsz2levoil. jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/325474_10150511222054899_1986754850_o_zpsz2levoil. jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/336582_10150484224324899_765534494_o_zpsom7itene.j pg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/336582_10150484224324899_765534494_o_zpsom7itene.j pg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/333813_10150511394664899_434993456_o_zpsb3dylcvr.j pg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/333813_10150511394664899_434993456_o_zpsb3dylcvr.j pg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/919687_10151901969639899_1021674054_o_zpslpse04w8. jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/919687_10151901969639899_1021674054_o_zpslpse04w8. jpg.html)
DaveB
March 25th, 2016, 05:52
Were it not for the pilot.. that shot of 811447 could easily be one of your screenies John:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)
YoYo
March 25th, 2016, 08:01
Fantastic shots!
Chunk
March 25th, 2016, 08:16
Ex-Portuguese Air Force now flying at Duxford...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36371&stc=1
I'm going to NEED to have this repaint when the A2A Texan comes out! :portugal: :wavey:
T6flyer
March 25th, 2016, 11:02
Yellow bands should be day-glo! And A2A example is a T-6G and not a Harvard Mk.4 as seen here.
Martin
IanP
March 25th, 2016, 11:14
It also has a modern cockpit. Does that mean I won't be putting a wartime RAF Harvard livery on it, if no-one else has by the time I can? Certainly not!
We will (at some point... Certainly not tonight, Lewis is out with his missus! ;) ) have an Accu-Sim T-6G, not a Harvard 4, not a SNJ, only a T-6G with a modern cockpit. It'll still be the closest to a Harvard or a SNJ that we can get as sim pilots, so we'll use what we have, thanks! :untroubled:
Cheers,
Ian P.
DaveB
March 25th, 2016, 11:28
It also has a modern cockpit. Does that mean I won't be putting a wartime RAF Harvard livery on it, if no-one else has by the time I can? Certainly not!
We will (at some point... Certainly not tonight, Lewis is out with his missus! ) have an Accu-Sim T-6G, not a Harvard 4, not a SNJ, only a T-6G with a modern cockpit. It'll still be the closest to a Harvard or a SNJ that we can get as sim pilots, so we'll use what we have, thanks!
Cheers,
Ian P.
:biggrin-new:
I have to agree. If it's there.. lob some paint on it:encouragement:
I just had a look at my shots of Taz Martin and the shot posted above is how she looks. It has to be said though that Duxfords flight line isn't ideal as the sun is always lighting the aircraft on the opposite side to Joe Public:(
ATB
DaveB:)
ThinkingManNeil
March 25th, 2016, 12:53
I enjoyed several flights in this wonderful airplane - as well as one of the museum's Harvard Mk. IV's - when I was a member of the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum back in the 1980's and 90's. I don't remember what the Canadian registration marks were, but I do remember someone had applied a small decal onto one of the white stripes of the USAF Stars & Bars on the port side of the fuselage that read "Want a ride? Insert VISA AmEx Mastercard" above a line drawing of a card insertion slot. That always gave me a chuckle...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36407&stc=1
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36408&stc=1
Here's a pic I took of her beneath a CAVU sky the day after she'd been given a high polish...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36409&stc=1
N.
T6flyer
March 25th, 2016, 16:29
:biggrin-new:
I have to agree. If it's there.. lob some paint on it:encouragement:
I just had a look at my shots of Taz Martin and the shot posted above is how she looks. It has to be said though that Duxfords flight line isn't ideal as the sun is always lighting the aircraft on the opposite side to Joe Public:(
ATB
DaveB:)
What I am trying to say is that the bands should be day-glo and not as seen here. The FAP ones had the orange, this has been painted incorrectly. I run an advisory service for T-6 owners, supplying them with details for paint schemes. 7 British examples are flying in my colours.
Martin
Mach3DS
March 25th, 2016, 18:21
It would be a real pity...A REAL pity, if A2A did all this, only to NOT include an original instrument panel? The modern panel is nice though. The whike bird is beautifully done. I cant imagine it will ship without the authentic panel...that would be a shame indeed. Lets keep the fingers crossed...
Bomber_12th
March 25th, 2016, 18:33
Some more details: http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=52500
T6flyer
March 25th, 2016, 18:42
Personally I think that the panel modelled is authentic to the aircraft involved. Having seen so many examples myself and sat in a lot of them, nothing is original any more. You have to remember that these aircraft are almost 80 years old and so many different versions were created, all with their own different and some times individual touches. The one that we can see in the video, matches the aeroplane flown and I would personally rather see something true to life, rather than something which it is not. I see your point, but believe A2A have done their homework with this and that it reflects both the historic and up to date sides of the story.
To have an original panel, would mean changing the whole airframe, not just the internal model and I truly believe A2A have created the most accurate T-6 to date.
Best wishes,
Martin
Mach3DS
March 25th, 2016, 19:08
Personally I think that the panel modelled is authentic to the aircraft involved. Having seen so many examples myself and sat in a lot of them, nothing is original any more. You have to remember that these aircraft are almost 80 years old and so many different versions were created, all with their own different and some times individual touches. The one that we can see in the video, matches the aeroplane flown and I would personally rather see something true to life, rather than something which it is not. I see your point, but believe A2A have done their homework with this and that it reflects both the historic and up to date sides of the story.
To have an original panel, would mean changing the whole airframe, not just the internal model and I truly believe A2A have created the most accurate T-6 to date.
Best wishes,
Martin
I guess that's true...we're not really talking about an airplane with "standard" components even at the best of times...so many operators so many variants....didn't think of that. Thanks for the enlightenment! Hoping John T. makes the purchase and provides some excellent repaints! :icon_lol:
manfredc3
March 25th, 2016, 21:32
Now that is bringing back flightsim memories.
I use to fly this bird made by Alphasim in FS. I added colored smoke, and later flew it in FSX.
Of course, reality wise no where near what A2A is presenting, but for that time (2010 or so) it was a blast.
And yes, awesome flying this bird low in the canyon's.
YoYo
March 26th, 2016, 01:40
Some of new screenies: http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=52500 (modification of frame but perhaps only modern cocpit) :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34075223/online/screenshots/t-6/11.jpg
Heidi again! : ))) (but perhaps no wartime pilot... : ( )
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34075223/online/screenshots/t-6/3.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/CMSF002/t6cadetldeitzcorpchrist_zpsur0ukqml.jpg~original
btw. see this - antenna (I dont know its only external gadget or it will be modelled in VC too).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34075223/online/screenshots/t-6/2.jpg
DaveB
March 26th, 2016, 02:14
What I am trying to say is that the bands should be day-glo and not as seen here. The FAP ones had the orange, this has been painted incorrectly. I run an advisory service for T-6 owners, supplying them with details for paint schemes. 7 British examples are flying in my colours.
Martin
I don't know when Taz was painted like this mate but I can't recall her showing anything other than yellow. Owners hey.. you just can't trust em:biggrin-new:
ATB
DaveB:)
Bomber_12th
March 26th, 2016, 07:30
That big ADF "football" on the spine of the aircraft was a post-WWII addition, as were the canopies with the missing central framing, so if a WWII-era paint scheme is applied, these will be two items that should be 'checked off' for proper appearance (for those that care about such things) - the spinner was also a very late WWII addition, only seen during WWII on a few AT-6D's/F's/SNJ-6's, and thus the vast majority of WWII-era Texans/SNJ's never had that. With the fully framed canopies fitted, and the ADF antenna and spinner removed, the aircraft will look outwardly very close to a WWII AT-6C/AT-6D/SNJ-4/SNJ-5 (which I'm trilled about!). - For those that haven't yet seen on the A2A forums, I mention this because all of those details will be selectable from the maintenance hangar screen.
The fully clear rear windscreen, as seen in the racer option, was originally introduced in late AT-6 production (seen fitted to AT-6F's and the SNJ-6's), but these still had the earlier fully framed canopies - just one of those things that highlights how so many things changed/varied, not only between AT-6/SNJ/Harvard production, but all of the changes/variables that there have been on any particular airframe in all of the years since original manufacture. All that really matters, is that the basic AT-6/SNJ/Harvard airframe is largely the same no matter what you call it, it's not until you dive into the details that they become so separated. All of the one-offs, racers, or Hollywood modified examples aside, some sources claim that there are no fewer than 260 different sub-types of the AT-6 family, especially if you go all the way back to the root of its design, in the General Aviation company's GA-1 to GA-15 designs. What is considered the prototype of the AT-6, the fixed-gear, open cockpit, NA-16, was flown for the first time on April 1, 1935, powered by a 400-hp R-975 engine.
IanP
March 26th, 2016, 10:57
Personally I think that the panel modelled is authentic to the aircraft involved. Having seen so many examples myself and sat in a lot of them, nothing is original any more. You have to remember that these aircraft are almost 80 years old and so many different versions were created, all with their own different and some times individual touches. The one that we can see in the video, matches the aeroplane flown and I would personally rather see something true to life, rather than something which it is not. I see your point, but believe A2A have done their homework with this and that it reflects both the historic and up to date sides of the story.
To have an original panel, would mean changing the whole airframe, not just the internal model and I truly believe A2A have created the most accurate T-6 to date.
Best wishes,
Martin
The panel is, as A2A always do, an exact replica of the aircraft tested in the real world... Except that it isn't, because the avionics fit is adjustable. If one of the avionics options is to not include any GPS and even better to swap out the modern NAV/COM suite as well, then that would be fine for all intents and purposes. However, I suspect the same as the Cherokee, you'll be limited to having the modern avionics, but the GPS will be removable. To me, as John says, if you give it a full frame canopy and take off the football, I'll be happy.
I already made somewhere for RAF Harvards to fly from (Sutton Bridge) and Terry Boissel has done the same place - he may have done other advanced training stations as well. I just need A2A to release it and me to find enough money to get it.
:wiggle:
Ian P.
rdaniell
March 26th, 2016, 11:13
...... I just need A2A to release it and me to find enough money to get it. :wiggle: Ian P.
I'm also wondering:dizzy: when this will be released and if it will be priced above :pop4: my budget for add-ons.
RD
Alan_A
March 26th, 2016, 11:24
A2A has just set up a dedicated T-6 subforum, so the pace seems to be very fast.
Pricing: the most recent A2A GA aircraft (with Accu-Sim built in, not a separate purchase) have been about $50 each for either FSX or P3D Academic, higher for FSX/P3D Bundles and for P3D Professional. Not clear if the same will be true of the T-6, but noted for whatever it's worth.
With luck, we'll have all the answers soon enough.
TARPSBird
March 26th, 2016, 12:33
The options for canopy framing, prop spinner, and ADF football are a nice feature. I'm definitely in for this plane but I have to ask: Any chance of an option for a Navy SNJ-4C/5C with tailhook and cable guard on the tailwheel?
T6flyer
March 26th, 2016, 13:43
The panel is, as A2A always do, an exact replica of the aircraft tested in the real world... Except that it isn't, because the avionics fit is adjustable. If one of the avionics options is to not include any GPS and even better to swap out the modern NAV/COM suite as well, then that would be fine for all intents and purposes. However, I suspect the same as the Cherokee, you'll be limited to having the modern avionics, but the GPS will be removable. To me, as John says, if you give it a full frame canopy and take off the football, I'll be happy.
I already made somewhere for RAF Harvards to fly from (Sutton Bridge) and Terry Boissel has done the same place - he may have done other advanced training stations as well. I just need A2A to release it and me to find enough money to get it.
:wiggle:
Ian P.
I am an advisor to the project and can state that two T-6Gs were used in the making of this aircraft. The panel is that from Pamela Marie with the exception of a moved ASI as that was positioned differently from the one the test flying was conducted on. As I have said before, all panels are different - a friend of mine in Canada has basically a glass cockpit in his and each individual owner puts his own identity on the airframe as required. Months of work was spent getting this right and I truly believe what you are about to see if fully representative of the T-6. Think you will be pleased with the final result. I am.
Martin
gray eagle
March 26th, 2016, 13:50
I got this from the wikipedia as I wondered what if any, were the differences (exterior/interior) in the Navy SNJ-4/5/6 series from the AT6 series....
<dl><dt>SNJ-4</dt><dd>Same as AT-6C, 1240 built.</dd><dt>SNJ-4C</dt><dd>SNJ-4s converted as deck landing trainers with tailhook arrester gear.</dd><dt>SNJ-5</dt><dd>AT-6Ds transferred from the USAAC, 1573 aircraft.</dd><dt>SNJ-5C</dt><dd>SNJ-5s converted as deck landing trainers with tailhook arrester gear.</dd><dt>SNJ-6</dt><dd>AT-6Fs transferred from the USAAF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAAF), 411 aircraft.
It looks like there was an order for 240 SNJ-8's but was cancelled.
Anyway, I wonder if there will be any SNJ paint variation(s) from this AT6 that A22 is advertising?
BTW, thanks John for the info on the fine details of the Texan.....:adoration:
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That big ADF "football" on the spine of the aircraft was a post-WWII addition, as were the canopies with the missing central framing, so if a WWII-era paint scheme is applied, these will be two items that should be 'checked off' for proper appearance (for those that care about such things) - the spinner was also a very late WWII addition, only seen during WWII on a few AT-6D's/F's/SNJ-6's, and thus the vast majority of WWII-era Texans/SNJ's never had that. With the fully framed canopies fitted, and the ADF antenna and spinner removed, the aircraft will look outwardly very close to a WWII AT-6C/AT-6D/SNJ-4/SNJ-5 (which I'm trilled about!). - For those that haven't yet seen on the A2A forums, I mention this because all of those details will be selectable from the maintenance hangar screen.
The fully clear rear windscreen, as seen in the racer option, was originally introduced in late AT-6 production (seen fitted to AT-6F's and the SNJ-6's), but these still had the earlier fully framed canopies - just one of those things that highlights how so many things changed/varied, not only between AT-6/SNJ/Harvard production, but all of the changes/variables that there have been on any particular airframe in all of the years since original manufacture. All that really matters, is that the basic AT-6/SNJ/Harvard airframe is largely the same no matter what you call it, it's not until you dive into the details that they become so separated. All of the one-offs, racers, or Hollywood modified examples aside, some sources claim that there are no fewer than 260 different sub-types of the AT-6 family, especially if you go all the way back to the root of its design, in the General Aviation company's GA-1 to GA-15 designs. What is considered the prototype of the AT-6, the fixed-gear, open cockpit, NA-16, was flown for the first time on April 1, 1935, powered by a 400-hp R-975 engine.
T6flyer
March 26th, 2016, 14:00
Basically no real difference externally between the AT-6C and D and the SNJ-3, 4 and 5 (with the exception of course of the hooked C sub variants and some AT-6Cs which had plywood rear fuselages).
Same goes for the Harvard Mk.IIA and Mk.III (AT-6C and D).
I've just completed work on a SNJ-5 that started life as an AT-6D. All changes are basically internal - 12 and 24 volt batteries.
Martin
joe bob
March 26th, 2016, 14:06
I am reading the manual right now, 40+ pages of background, starting with the invention of the wheel I believe
They must be paying Glicksman by the word! :playful:
Bomber_12th
March 26th, 2016, 14:36
Some of the differences between variants can be dealt with just in the textures - for instance, the AT-6F, SNJ-6, and Harvard variants had a fully rectangular baggage door on the port-side fuselage, just behind the rear cockpit. On other variants of the Texan/SNJ (those that could have, or did mount, a swivel/positional seat in the back), this door had an angled line to it along the left-lower side of the door due to the different baggage compartment design. Different variants also had some minor differences in access panels around the exterior, etc.
T6flyer
March 26th, 2016, 14:52
Harvard Mk.IIA and III had the cutout baggage door as they were basically AT-6Cs and Ds, but the Noorduyn built MK.IIB had the rectangular door and the fixed 6 panel rear section, along with the longer exhaust of course. These two features are not replicated in the A2A model.
I bet this all sounds so confusing to those not really interested in the T-6 family.
Best wishes,
Martin
Bomber_12th
March 26th, 2016, 15:14
So who else wants to dent some wingtips flying formation when this thing is released?
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/Copy_4_of_WWII_Army_Air_Corps_001-443x292_zpspffbdksk.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/Copy_4_of_WWII_Army_Air_Corps_001-443x292_zpspffbdksk.jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/5985034940_dbda5d0492_o_zpszvjrkhim.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/5985034940_dbda5d0492_o_zpszvjrkhim.jpg.html)
Just be careful to keep it off its nose.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/8091627728_e832c3ac6f_b_zps67kxdpey.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/8091627728_e832c3ac6f_b_zps67kxdpey.jpg.html)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/8091627428_f3f3683fb9_b_zpstcfxmzhe.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/8091627428_f3f3683fb9_b_zpstcfxmzhe.jpg.html)
Mach3DS
March 26th, 2016, 15:32
If it means getting into the air with you online multiplayer then I'll sacrfice a few wingtips for the cause John!
T6flyer
March 26th, 2016, 15:33
And the Harvards up to the Mk.IIB, had the X shaped rollover bar as opposed to the N version in the AT-6s and T-6G.
http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w447/T6flyer/Diff_3_1.jpg (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/T6flyer/media/Diff_3_1.jpg.html)
The rectangular baggage door seen here on Harvard IIB FT323/G-AZSC
http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w447/T6flyer/Diff_1.jpg (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/T6flyer/media/Diff_1.jpg.html)
and the long exhaust of RCAF3064/G-CTKL
http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w447/T6flyer/Diff_5_1.jpg (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/T6flyer/media/Diff_5_1.jpg.html)
None of these details on the A2A machine, but all adds to the story.
Martin
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