A2A WOPIII P-47 Out Now!!!

[Scratch]

Waiting on a download link!

[jankees]

downloading now....

[Rezabrya]

i am also downloading now, along with accusim. The discounts were nice too.

[Boomer]

Cant wait to get home!!! :applause::applause::applause:

[Scratch]

Where's the download link? Maybe I'm missing something.

[gajit]

Its slow but its downloading :wiggle:

[MudMarine]

DOWNLOADING NOW!!! WOOO HOOO:faint:

[Scratch]

Aww Dang it!!!!! I think I screwed something up:banghead:

[Epsillon]

:jump::jump::jump:

[Boomer]

Aww Dang it!!!!! I think I screwed something up:banghead:

Und how long haft you been sufferink from desser premature downloading?

[gajit]

Wow - shes just fantastic

Thanks A2A team :applause:

[gajit]

Oh - and take note other developers - highly detailed all round with excellent frame rates - if only everyone would be this considerate to us low spec PC owners. Well done A2A

[MudMarine]

WOW..........all I can say is.........WOW!! That and my first take off and landing were picture perfect! :whistle:

[jankees]

In one word: Sublime!!

I love it!
I had to refer to manual to get her home in one piece though..just great.
The sounds are brilliant, squealing brakes, groans and squeaks, all it misses are a couple of .50's...

[ICDP]

After weeks of flying her with no real mishaps I started breaking engines regularly. A few minutes after take off I would notice the MP drop of significantly forcing me to ditch. I eventually realised that I had switched from my default flight in the Pacific to a much colder European location.

It turned out I was doing what I do in every other warbird I flew. I would start the engine then take off straight away with scant regard for oil temperature. This was fine in 25-30C heat of summer in the Pacific but in near freezing European winter weather it was a recipe for disaster. The very cold oil caused various problems and my engine would inevitably die after a short time.

It takes you to be sure your oil has warmed up to its optimum temperature by sitting at around 1200 RPM for quite a few minutes prior to take off in cold weather.

The P-47 with accusim has ruined every other warbird I have. They all seem like toys now. This includes all the old A2A/Shockwave stuff too.

[MudMarine]

Dang, I fogged up my canopy!! How cool is that!! hehe

[Rimshot]

Looks fantastic. Question about the radio's. Does the p-47 also have a modern radio so you can fly her in a civilian world? I'm referring to the Realair Spitfire here that has some variants with a Bendix radio.

[guzler]

Is that us dollars or Aussie dollars ?

What is it in £ ? approx

[Nick C]

For currency conversions go here where it will take you two seconds to get an approximate price: http://www.xe.com/ucc/

[ICDP]

Hi Guzler, check out http://www.xe.com/ucc to do money conversions. The price is in USD.

[guzler]

Thanks guys

Downloading now...

[stiz]

i never thought i'd hear myself saying this about a US birdi, but she's fandabbydosie! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Best thing is, is that when you start hearing an un-nerveing clunking sound when your half way across a stretch of water, just open the canopy, no more clunking :d

[Scratch]

Und how long haft you been sufferink from desser premature downloading?

Too quick on the trigger and missed the target, I bought the Accu-sim part instead of the dang P-47:banghead:

[gajit]

LOL - the weird thing is im trying to buy the Accusim now but cant seem to save it to the shopping basket!!

[SpaceWeevil]

Too quick on the trigger and missed the target, I bought the Accu-sim part instead of the dang P-47:banghead:

JUST stopped myself doing that, I thought the page was a bit confusing. It's an understandable mistake when the extra realism alone costs as much as most complete aircraft. This Jug is stunning even without it, so I won't be going there just yet or I'll run out of pennies for the Warbirdsim P-51.

[VFR Reviews]

GREAT!

I'm getting this to review, can't wait!

[codeseven]

Nice! Count me in!!

[Nick C]

I've just completed my first flight with no hassles, she behaved like a true lady and was a joy to fly. Scott and his team can be very proud of this bird. FSX, for me, is coming of age.

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause: :applause:

[Cirrus N210MS]

well i just got my P47!!! sweet :woot:

[Akatsuki]

A masterpiece! You guys at A2A just did a wonderful job, you can be proud of you!:applause::applause::applause::applause:

[CodyValkyrie]

I know sigs really aren't allowed on this forum, but I'm sure some of you guys would be interested. I made sigs for the P-47.

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=13199

[Epsillon]

The paintkit is available now!

http://www.gamershell.com/news_68676.html (http://www.gamershell.com/news_68676.html)

Enjoy! :jump::jump::jump:

PS: I will try to adapt all my old repaints so stay tuned...(if I can upload them because I can't upload anything since last saturday! ;) )

[CodyValkyrie]

Epsillon, can't wait mate.

[Wulf190]

This is REALLY temping me on installing FSX! Dang-nab it I wish they had Accusim for FS9!:karate:

[DennyA]

Anyone flying it without Accusim? The combo is pricier than I want to go, but I really don't care about system failures in a fighter. (I'll just take my Accusim Stratocruiser up for that -- it has 4x the failure potential fun! :) But I'm assuming the flight modeling and general systems are still modeled in full detail on the $35 version?

[gajit]

Anyone flying it without Accusim? The combo is pricier than I want to go, but I really don't care about system failures in a fighter. (I'll just take my Accusim Stratocruiser up for that -- it has 4x the failure potential fun! :) But I'm assuming the flight modeling and general systems are still modeled in full detail on the $35 version?


Hi DennyA

I have not got Accusim yet and whilst Im sure its great (like on the B377) i find the actual aircraft so good i think it will be a good few hours flying before i get the Accusim. I am amazed how many features it has that i thought would have been part of the Accusim package.

[SolarEagle]

Yep, this is the best one yet.

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p-47.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p-472.jpg

[Cirrus N210MS]

well one thing is for sure i am hooked on this plane!!! i am goto get the addon pack soon!
http://sites.google.com/site/cirrusn210ms/_/rsrc/1233735982124/my-screen-shot-wall/A2A%20p47.jpg
http://sites.google.com/site/cirrusn210ms/_/rsrc/1233736292847/my-screen-shot-wall/A2A%20p473.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/cirrusn210ms/_/rsrc/1233737821389/my-screen-shot-wall/A2A%20p474.jpg

[pernik]

I think I broke mine :karate:
Off to **** ;)
Lovely model and textures

[jankees]

Boy, do I like this one...just had my first engine fire.....better watch those meters...

I also got the paintbrushes out, here's my first attempt (still WiP, I'm flying too much)

[ICDP]

Looking great Jankees, you don't hang about do you :)

I see you have highlighted the warped texture mapping issues on the rear fuselage. I apologise for that as I made a decision to ignore this problem and work around the warping. Normally I would get ROB to fix any such mapping problems to make painting/repainting much easier. Unfortunately ROB's time was 100% taken up with the B377 SP1 update. Had I waited for ROB to get the time to fix the problem I would still be painting the P-47 and we would still be many weeks away from release.

Sorry again, I hope you don't take this as a poor excuse but as a valid explanation.

Happy painting jankes... and Epsillon (I know you are lurking) :)

[Epsillon]

Boy, do I like this one...just had my first engine fire.....better watch those meters...

I also got the paintbrushes out, here's my first attempt (still WiP, I'm flying too much)

It looks great! :applause::applause::applause:

[jankees]

..and after each flight, back to the drawing board:

[LCBORDEN]

Jan, It's great to hear you happy again. Looking forward to lots of your excellent textures for this Great new P47, Now if someone can do a really good "Tar Heel Hal" (lots of colors) Life would return to narvana.(hint, hint) I've only been able to get an hour or so in this offering, but man is it Immersive. Love having to monitor all the systems or down I go. Waiting anxiously for all the new textures you talented folks will offer. What a great place and time to be a simmer.


ol'jarhead :rapture:

[guzler]

Keeping that big fat radial from smoking needs some monitoring, really need to get myself a Track IR system, how many times does a guy need to crash looking at his instruments and throttle quadrant ? Oh, anybody have a bigger rudder I can borrow? This thing don't like going straight down the runway !!!!!!

Do I sound like I'm complaining ? I'm loving it, it takes thought and practice.

[Barvan40]

Thank you Team A2A, this one is the best one yet!!!

[noddy]

Nuts going to have to wait till I get paid. :crybaby:

She does look fantastic. :ernae:

[Lewis-A2A]

Barvan, Ian made a nice Halesworth for you to fly that particular jug from :ernae:

[IanP]

I'll stick a thread up shortly with all three airfields suitable for the P-47 on.

Possibly even links to them, if I can actually get to write readmes without my back throwing a major fit!

[Barvan40]

Barvan, Ian made a nice Halesworth for you to fly that particular jug from :ernae:


Downloading it now from Ian's site!

[IanP]

There's an updated Halesworth coming very soon, Barry, with corrected landclass south of the airfield to put Halesworth village where it should be and a technical area around the Eastern T.2 hangar, where it should be. It's done, but not zipped up and as my back is now throwing a total wobbly at me, it won't be for a few hours.

I also have RAF Wormingford, which will go very nicely with the G8-Z "My Gal Sal" livery and, I'll keep the last one a bit of a surprise. Not much of one, admittedly, but hopefully some people will find it fun.

[Barvan40]

Thanks for the update info Ian. Hope you feel better soon!

[noddy]

Nuts going to have to wait till I get paid. :crybaby:

She does look fantastic. :ernae:
Oh hell who wants to eat!!!

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[ICDP]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/P-47D_DDay.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/P-47D_Miss_Behave.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/P-47D_Tuskagee.jpg

[IanP]

Can I join in? :wavey::wiggle:

[guzler]

Ian,

Any chance of a link to your airfield downloads ?

Thanks
Neil

[jankees]

Can I join in? :wavey::wiggle:

But of course you can!

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/download/file.php?id=263
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/download/file.php?id=265

[IanP]

Ow! Who called that poor aircraft that!!! :173go1:


Neil: Painkillers have finally kicked in and I've just been writing readme files, so I'll post a thread with all three fields on shortly.

(P.S. Ahem. Look at my signature... Although the new ones aren't on there yet.)

[6297J]

Some great pics in this thread :applause:

[Marlin]

WOW

Thanks for the pics everybody :faint:

[ICDP]

Here is a screenshot of the inside of a hangar at RAF Digby. Thanks to IanP for creating this (and other) excellent WWII airfields. It makes flying these warbirds more fun for me.

I had parked up after a short flight and knowing that it is winter I was running the oil dilution prior to shutting down the engine. If you are going to be starting your P-47 from a saved flight in cold weather running the oil dilution for a few minutes makes the subsequent startup so much easier. I guess you all knew that already from reading the manual... no just jumping in and flying it without reading the manual here i bet ;)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/RAF_Digby.jpg

[stiz]

dont spose anyones takeing repaint requests? :engel016:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpapers/1945/rafp471024.jpg

or if ya dont want to do that one i'll take anything else in RAF ETO markings :) :wave:

[jankees]

Has anybody gone very high without oxygen yet? Interesting.....

Meanwhile, I've revisited an old friend:

[EgoR64]

:friday:

Great Looker - I be getting her soon !!

Any P-47 Formation Flyin ??

Many Cheers !! :ernae: :applause::ernae:

Can't Wait to give her a Spin !!

[jankees]

Any P-47 Formation Flyin ??


I tried, but was too busy watching all the meters to really succeed...

[Scratch]

Has anybody gone very high without oxygen yet? Interesting.....


I was working on it when some 'lil gremlin lit my stinkin' engine on fire. When I find that rascal I'm gonna feed his carcass through the dang turbocharger:violent:

[Odie]

Ya'll are sure making it hard NOT to get this bird.......the doghouse is getting awful cozy these days....

[Fireball6]

OK - after reading this Thread and all your positiv comments - i could`nt resist. Oh what a beauty :jump: - great Bird (if she have enough throttle-setting - if not she fly like a Toast-Bred - straight down ;-) )

take a quick snape - "coming home ...." :wave:

[FAC257]

One of the first times I forgot to turn on the oxygen at altitude I walked away from my desk for a few minutes. When I came back in the room my monitor was all black and I was getting ready to reboot thinking my video card had a hiccup.

Then I realized my pilot had blacked out. :)

Turned the oxygen back on, he came back around and luckily the plane was still flying okay.

[IanP]

And how, precisely, did you see to turn the oxygen on? ;)

I'm seriously loving this aircraft. I haven't flown it as much as I'd like yet, but so far it's been phenomenal and I've only killed myself once! (Trying to do a low pass over Wormingford to screenshot it - hit a wooden hut while looking the other way. Oops.)

[ICDP]

dont spose anyones takeing repaint requests? :engel016:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpapers/1945/rafp471024.jpg

or if ya dont want to do that one i'll take anything else in RAF ETO markings :) :wave:

I am Stiz :wave:

It is still a work in progress but should have it done by tomorrow I hope. RAF 73 Operational Training Unit, Egypt.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/RAF73OTU.jpg

[Scratch]

I am Stiz :wave:

It is still a work in progress but should have it done by tomorrow I hope. RAF 73 Operational Training Unit, Egypt.


Man that looks awesome!!

[MudMarine]

There ain't NOTHING else like her!:faint:

[Epsillon]

I am Stiz :wave:

It is still a work in progress but should have it done by tomorrow I hope. RAF 73 Operational Training Unit, Egypt.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/ICDP/RAF73OTU.jpg
:applause::applause::applause:
This reminds me of one of my old repaints...

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What a great progress in quality!!!

Regards,

Stephan

[txnetcop]

Gotta wait and you guys are not making it any easier!!! DANG Sweet Bird! A2A just ROCKS
Ted

[MudMarine]

One of the first times I forgot to turn on the oxygen at altitude I walked away from my desk for a few minutes. When I came back in the room my monitor was all black and I was getting ready to reboot thinking my video card had a hiccup.

Then I realized my pilot had blacked out. :)

Turned the oxygen back on, he came back around and luckily the plane was still flying okay.

Alright, I give! Why isn't my dumb bunny of a pilot not putting his mask on? The only way I can get the blinker to work is turn the emergency O2 on to 100%?! When I turn it off again he starts sucking wind. The 100% setting only has a short duration before it runs out. The only thing I can find in the manual is....."Put your O2 mask on"........no really! hehe I know it's something simple that I'm missing but that's why I'm not one of the world's great minds (according to the wife)! Congrats to Scott and the team at A2A, what can I say? I'm in love with my Jug!!:ernae:

[jankees]

I am Stiz :wave:

It is still a work in progress but should have it done by tomorrow I hope. RAF 73 Operational Training Unit, Egypt.


You beat me to it, Martin!
Nice job!

[lucas81]

Could't resist and also got this bird yestreday. She will be awesome bird for the long-range hops around the world :D

Great repaints, Gents! Martin, Jan and Stephan, you are doing excellent job! Looking forward to some Soviet repaint in some far future :D

Lucas

[Marlin]

Does it have an auto pilot?

(running for cover)

[lucas81]

Well, the autopilot key commands work, but there is no autopilot panel. So everything must be set manually (Z + ctrl+Z + CTRL+H, etc.)

[Lewis-A2A]

Hey Mud,

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=13223

Cody answered you over at our place. :friday:

[MudMarine]

Got it Lewis, thanks! I knew it was simple, I just had to reload while in game. I had his mask on before so I knew it worked but no matter what I tried he wounldn't put it on......well, except for the obvious pop-up menu!:whistle: The sounds the pilot makes are a great addition! I means something rather than just hearing your sim-pilot breathing in your ear like Darth Vader! All his grunting and gasping make you become one with the force (plane) so you have to be on your toes!........alright, enough of the Star Wars references!:hand:

[MudMarine]

Gotta wait and you guys are not making it any easier!!! DANG Sweet Bird! A2A just ROCKS
Ted

Hey Ted, sell the house or pawn the Harley (NEVER) this one is worth it! :applause::woot:

[stiz]

I am Stiz :wave:

It is still a work in progress but should have it done by tomorrow I hope. RAF 73 Operational Training Unit, Egypt.


oo very nice :applause: :applause: :applause:

Pilot haveing a little nap after getting bored on a long flight :monkies:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/Stiz987/2009-2-5_11-48-17-328800x640.jpg

[MudMarine]

No Stiz he's counting his change so he can buy a beer when he gets to Berlin!:whistle:

[MudMarine]

Coming home to the not so green coast of the UK.

[EMatheson]

Hey Mudmarine! Glad to see you back!

[chinookmark]

No Stiz he's counting his change so he can buy a beer when he gets to Berlin!:whistle:

With that loadout, it doesn't look like he's planning on paying for his beer.

[Odie]

Okay, I bought it ! Send all my mail to the doghouse ! Between getting the new PC, REX, a couple of FSX add-ons, etc....I'm gonna be there for awhile, BUT, I'll be flying in style ! :woot:

Now if I can just carve out some time to actually get the new PC setup and all the goodies installed ! :faint:

[IanP]

With that loadout, it doesn't look like he's planning on paying for his beer.

With that loadout, it looks like he paid for the beer already and didn't get it. :ernae:

[MudMarine]

Hey Mudmarine! Glad to see you back!

Temporary engagement for one thread only........I hope it sells out!

[Nick C]

Really looking forward to the RAF paint scheme :applause::applause::applause:

[ICDP]

Really looking forward to the RAF paint scheme :applause::applause::applause:

It is available on avsim.com, search for:

p-47_raf_73_otu.zip

[Lewis-A2A]

Nice one martin,:ernae:

I couldn't find the damn thing earlier!

[Nick C]

It is available on avsim.com, search for:

p-47_raf_73_otu.zip

Got it, many thanks it's great :ernae:
.

[RudiJG1]

This fantastic bird is spooky real...during a short training hop out of RAF Halesworth (thanks, IanP!), I "jumped" out of the cockpit to admire her on a fly-by. As she smoothly purred past me, she suddenly popped a small puff of smoke as a cylinder backfired! I kid you not.

I guiltily jumped back into the saddle to check all of the gauges, temps, rpms, etc...all was fine, and I completed the hop with a barely acceptable landing back at base. Maintenance still rates the engine as "excellent"...phew!

I suspect she was just showing off...nice work, A2A.:applause:

[lucas81]

... I used some Soviet colour swatch. Perhaps I will create some default, not 100% accurate scheme, since I don't have good sources for the Soviet Jugs. Yes, there is one, called formerly "Knight of Pythias", but it was D-10 version, not the 20/22/23.

Lucas

[Blade124]

"she suddenly popped a small puff of smoke"

Yes, it's nice to see these things noticed. Just like the real engine, occassionally you will get a skip or puff. As the engine takes on wear and buildup, you will likely see more of that.

Scott.

[MudMarine]

This fantastic bird is spooky real...during a short training hop out of RAF Halesworth (thanks, IanP!), I "jumped" out of the cockpit to admire her on a fly-by. As she smoothly purred past me, she suddenly popped a small puff of smoke as a cylinder backfired! I kid you not.

I guiltily jumped back into the saddle to check all of the gauges, temps, rpms, etc...all was fine, and I completed the hop with a barely acceptable landing back at base. Maintenance still rates the engine as "excellent"...phew!

I suspect she was just showing off...nice work, A2A.:applause:

If you liked that wait until you have an engine fire! I haven't been that excited flying in a long time! Lucky for me I'd just taken off so I dropped my tanks and belly flopped her; I walked away! Very fun!!

[guzler]

With that loadout, it looks like he paid for the beer already and didn't get it. :ernae:

He's watching his fuel gauge move rather quickly and regretting not putting on an extra tank !!!!

[IanHenry]

I am thinking about buying the P 47 but can’t decide whether to get the Accu-sim pack or not. Is it worth the extra cash?
I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).
So if I didn’t get the Accu-sim would I be missing out on a lot, after all the pack is the cost of another aircraft!
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Regards,
Ian
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[SirBenn21]

I am thinking about buying the P 47 but can’t decide whether to get the Accu-sim pack or not. Is it worth the extra cash?
I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).
So if I didn’t get the Accu-sim would I be missing out on a lot, after all the pack is the cost of another aircraft!
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Regards,
Ian
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I bought it and am very happy I did, but I have one question. If you bought Accu-sim once, do you have to re-buy it for the next accu-sim compatible add-on from A2A?

[IanHenry]

Thats a very good question Sir.

Ian

[IanP]

The answer to which is yes, from what I understand. Because Accu-Sim is built to the engine and airframe, rather than being a single module that works with all airframes and engines, the Accu-Sim version for each aircraft will be an additional purchase.

I'm sure one of the A2A team will be along to confirm it or slap me round the ear shortly for getting it wrong, but that's how I understand it.

Regarding the question of "is it worth it", that's a decision only you can make. I like realism, I like having to look after aircraft and getting bitten when I get it wrong, so for me it's superb. If you don't want to do that however, and prefer to jump in and scream around the sky at full power all day then no. It does bring a massive amount of realism to the sim, but the reality is that you have to look after an aircraft properly for it to work and that's not everyone's cup of tea.

[gajit]

Hi

I bought it without the Accusim pack first and enjoyed flying around for about 10 hours without to start with. But then as Ian says the temptation of such realism got too much and now im pleased I have the accusim. :wiggle:

[IanHenry]

Although the P-47 look very nice indeed, if you are going to have to buy a new Accu-sim package for every aircraft A2A produce, it is going to get very expensive if you want all their products with all the “bells and whistles”
At almost £41 including Accu-sim this makes this aircraft more expensive than FSX can currently be bought for. It makes me wonder how much the forthcoming F4 Phantom will cost.
Having said that I will probably buy the P-47 because I have always been satisfied with previous A2A products.
Not that I want to appear tight fisted (ok I am a little) it’s just I wonder where all this increasing cost of FSX products will end? I also notice that a lot of people on this forum have bought this aircraft and appear very satisfied with it so maybe it is just me!
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Regards,
Ian

[SirBenn21]

The answer to which is yes, from what I understand. Because Accu-Sim is built to the engine and airframe, rather than being a single module that works with all airframes and engines, the Accu-Sim version for each aircraft will be an additional purchase.

I'm sure one of the A2A team will be along to confirm it or slap me round the ear shortly for getting it wrong, but that's how I understand it.

Regarding the question of "is it worth it", that's a decision only you can make. I like realism, I like having to look after aircraft and getting bitten when I get it wrong, so for me it's superb. If you don't want to do that however, and prefer to jump in and scream around the sky at full power all day then no. It does bring a massive amount of realism to the sim, but the reality is that you have to look after an aircraft properly for it to work and that's not everyone's cup of tea.


I'll admit that I didn't do my homework then and I don't regret getting Accu-sim, but I'll be much more selective on further purchases from A2A.
Don't get me wrong. I think that the P47 from A2A is by far a superiour product than alot of add-ons out there, but $60 odd $$$ is not cheap.
That of corse is only my opinion. I'm sure alot of people will disagree with me.

Ben

[stiz]

I have tried the Accu-sim pack for the Stratocruiser and found it to much hassle (I know this will upset the purists, but I like to just jump in and fly).


I have to agree here, for me the stratocruiser is a bit to much for just me, however the good thing about accusim is that if you just want to have a fun flight and just firewall the throttle and keep it there, just turn it off, if you want a more serious flight, turn it back on :)

[ICDP]

I have noticed an increasing number people asking (here and other forums) why they need to purchase Accusim again if they have the B377 version. The B377 is a vastly different beast than the P-47. The Accusim module for the P-47 took many months of research, development and testing. Any subsequent versions of Accusim for other aircraft will take similar research, development and testing periods.

The massively increased research, programming and testing periods practically double the development time of any aircraft addon. We understand that not everyone wants to have accurately modeled engine and systems operation with corresponding failures for making mistakes. Many people just like the concept of a quality 3D model with quality textures that they can just load up and fly. It is for this reason the Main 3D model with standard engine and systems management is sold separately from the complex engine and systems management that Accusim adds. Without Accusim the Wop3 P-47 pack is priced at a competitive rate. So stating that the price of the Wings of Power 3 P-47 is overpriced at $60 is inaccurate as the actual cost of the Wings of Power 3 P-47 is $35. The $60 price tag is a bundle price for two separate products that individualy took a lot of effort to develop and are thus priced accordingly.

Please don't think of Accusim as a one size fits all product that will (or should) work with any aircraft. Accusim is a brandname we use at A2A for the complex separate expansion pack that is uniquely tailored to accurately simulate the engine and systems for its corresponding aircraft addon.

Just for clarification.

Wings of Power 3 P-47 Razorback:
Price $34.99 ($27.99 with the rebate for owners of the older FSX Razorback)

Accusim Expansion Pack for the P-47
Price $29.99

Bundle deal for WoP3 P-47 with Accusim Expansion Pack
Price $59.98 ($52.98 with the rebate for owners of the older FSX Razorback

[codeseven]

Please don't think of Accusim as a one size fits all product that will (or should) work with any aircraft. Accusim is a brandname we use at A2A for the complex separate expansion pack that is uniquely tailored to accurately simulate the engine and systems for its corresponding aircraft addon.

And thats the way I want to see it be done. I want 'as real as it gets' and the last thing I want to see is is a 'generic', 'one size fits all' Accusim for all aircraft. A2A your doing it right. Thanks for the individual attention you pay to each aircraft you offer, it absolutely shows.

This A2A Razorback is a fantastic model just by itself and well worth the price for all the work that has gone into her, but, when combined with it's very own Accusim Expansion Pack it is elevated to a level that no other aircraft, addon or otherwise, can compare to. The bar has been raised and the benchmark set for all others to try to achieve. This achievement alone single handedly assures a future of very high quality, realistic aircraft for FSX from any modeler expecting their addon aircraft to be considered at the level of what A2A can offer. Thats good for all of us. Thanks A2A.

Worth the price? You bet it is!


Codeseven

[RCAF_Gunner]

A2A, thank you for another outstanding addition. :trophy:

The new P-47 aircraft package is quite an improvement on the FSX native Solo package ~ and that's saying something because the previous version was top notch. The fact that you folks improved an already stunning plane just shows how much passion you have for our hobby.

I also picked up the Accusim package for the P-47. Wow! Now I know what the B.377 owners who added the B.377 Accusim package have been raving about. I've always tried to fly authentically in FS with regards to engine management and so on but I've learned over the last couple of nights I still have a ways to go when it comes to high performance engines. I was surprised when I got back from a flight where I was pushing the engine, but thought I was keeping it all "in the green", and had an engine rated as in poor condition. I really didn't want to explain that to the crew chief. LOL! Then there's things like the windshield fogging up (here I am thinking where'd all that weather come from ~ doh) and learning how to use the oxygen system at the higher altitudes. I'm truly enjoying the education and the new challenges.

I'm looking forward to your future WoP III offerings. Keep up the great work.

Rick

[IanHenry]

OK I gave in and bought the bloody thing and Accu-sim. I really am going to have to work on my will power.
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Ian

[gajit]

LOL - yeah - I tried to resist buying the Accusim element because i have tried to cut back on my FS spending but...

[SolarEagle]

I'm just glad there's somebody out there willing to take the time and energy to manifest their dreams and make that available to others. I think we are quite lucky a product of this quality even exits.

[VCN-1]

My resistance to purchase is beginning to falter.

VCN-1

[stiz]

I was surprised when I got back from a flight where I was pushing the engine, but thought I was keeping it all "in the green", and had an engine rated as in poor condition. I really didn't want to explain that to the crew chief. LOL!

hehe i wouldnt take that little readout to be the final say about how your engine is :costumes:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/Stiz987/2009-2-5_12-19-52-109800x640.jpg

:wave:

[SirBenn21]

hehe i wouldnt take that little readout to be the final say about how your engine is :costumes:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/Stiz987/2009-2-5_12-19-52-109800x640.jpg

:wave:

Yip I also picked up a rough engine and it also said "Excellent"

:icon_lol:

Edit: I think it was the Turbo I hurt.

KUDO's to the A2A Team for a outstanding add-on. I'm sure I'll buy your next Project you are working on.

Thanks

Ben

[c87]

With regard to the cost with Accusim, it seems justified given the complexity and development that went into making the systems simulation. Now I have to say that I don't have the P-47 (yet) and am not sure whether I'll get AccuSim.

However I do recall some of the arguments against another payware developer's products that didn't even have clickable cockpits, let alone any real systems simulation. The argument there was that the price (and if I recall, it wasn't far off from A2A's products with AccuSim) was too steep and for that kind of money, it should have a more developed cockpit functionality and systems simulation.

Well, it looks like we have it now so from that standpoint, I guess I can't argue with the asking price of the combined aircraft and AccuSim.

[Sean Doran]

A must have, got to save my pennies, just going to be a whil:ernae:e.

[jankees]

expensive or not expensive depends on your budget
worth the price, depends on what you want in an add-on
but quality wise, I have to say that this is the best, by far
I think it is cheap for what you're getting...

[gajit]

expensive or not expensive depends on your budget
worth the price, depends on what you want in an add-on
but quality wise, I have to say that this is the best, by far
I think it is cheap for what you're getting...

I agree :applause:

[txnetcop]

A2A has just guaranteed a long and lustrous life for FSX with their new Accu-sim series aircraft. Thank you Scott and crew
Ted

[CG_1976]

Ouch HotHot:redfire: Someone call the fire dept. One great P-47. Thank you A2A.

[jankees]

Hi Guys,

I've just uploaded my first repaint for this wonderful bird.
You'll be able to find it on avsim soon I hope, uploading here proved impossible for some reason.
Since it's my first one for this aircraft, I would appreciate any comments you may have, positive or negative, so that I may be able to improve future ones, and make them worthy of this great model.

[Epsillon]

Hi Guys,

I've just uploaded my first repaint for this wonderful bird.
You'll be able to find it on avsim soon I hope, uploading here proved impossible for some reason.
Since it's my first one for this aircraft, I would appreciate any comments you may have, positive or negative, so that I may be able to improve future ones, and make them worthy of this great model.
It looks great, Jan! :applause::applause::applause:

[jankees]

here's the link: http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxacrp&DLID=134485

[MenendezDiego]

Just bought it, going to mess around with it later. Will post shots!

[papab]

Here are some Shots of your repaint"Sylvia"
Great Repaint!!! Thank you very much

[CodyValkyrie]

I love that dark green cowling. Fantastic!

[FAC257]

There's just something I really like about that paint. The green cowling like your saying, plus the blue stripping along the side.

Not to mention I'm a little more partial to Pacific theater repaints on any WWII aircraft.

I've been flying her all day.

FAC

[Lewis-A2A]

Hunting in the Bulge!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_COLOUR472.jpg

[papab]

WOW:applause::applause::applause::applause:

[deimos256]

Hunting in the Bulge!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_COLOUR472.jpg

now THAT one I like

[Shylock]

Man this bird is worth every penny. A2A you have out done yourself yet again. Keep them coming.

[SolarEagle]

Here's my attempt.

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p472.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p477.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p478.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p475.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p473.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p474.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p479.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p4710.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p4711.jpg

[Lewis-A2A]

Solar you have a damn fine eye, not to metion a damn fine pc spec :ernae:

[SolarEagle]

Thank you very much! Here's one more I forgot to include.

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/p4712.jpg

[hews500d]

I definitely gotta get this bird!! Solar, what ground textures are you using?

Darrell

[SolarEagle]

That's FTX by Orbx. The Blue and Gold region packs are shown there.

http://www.fullterrain.com/

[Lewis-A2A]

Ive been having too much fun with this. Using Ian's Halesworth etc, and Dave's Duxford its too much damn fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_COLOUR474.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_PAC471.jpg

:ernae:

[SpaceWeevil]

Great pics Solar - but if that was me flying, #2 would be a guaranteed big smoking hole in the ground!

[crashaz]

Ouch HotHot:redfire: Someone call the fire dept. One great P-47. Thank you A2A.

ROFL!!:applause:

[deimos256]

Ive been having too much fun with this. Using Ian's Halesworth etc, and Dave's Duxford its too much damn fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_COLOUR474.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/wop3_PAC471.jpg

:ernae:

where can i find these paints???

[jankees]

I'm nearly there with two repaints, but can't show you any pics...
"exceeded quota"...is this a new thing? How do I get rid of old pics?

[stiz]

"exceeded quota"...is this a new thing? How do I get rid of old pics?

top left - user cp - edit options - then down in the misc section on the left click attachments :wave:

[jankees]

Has there been a change in the available quotum for attachments?
I had to delete nearly everything before new space became available.
I can't upload files, I can't upload images, is someone trying to tell me something here?

[fliger747]

SOH DL space is alloted according to a formula using your countries average elevation above sea level.....

T.

[Epsillon]

Has there been a change in the available quotum for attachments?
I had to delete nearly everything before new space became available.
I can't upload files, I can't upload images, is someone trying to tell me something here?
Jan, I gave you the reason on this post:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=10352

[jankees]

SOH DL space is alloted according to a formula using your countries average elevation above sea level.....

T.

Aaahh, that explains it all. Maybe I should move to Nepal then?
I'll give uploading these another try...

edit: that seems to have been succesful, so hopefully they become available soon

[Epsillon]

Very nice! :applause::applause::applause:

[jankees]

Jan, I gave you the reason on this post:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=10352

Aaah, I missed the part about the messages..

[jankees]

How's this?

[anj4de]

Hi guys

This is the first real reason I see to upgrade to FSX! ...and I thought the WOP FS9 birds were not to top any more, I think I was wrong. The only problem now is...I would need a new machine (1000EUR) and my FS9, at least 450EUR heavy by now, would be waisted.
This new P-47 wouldn't work in FS9?

thanks
uwe

[MudMarine]

FSX only......but who knows some wizard might do it? But none of the systems that make it so cool would work?

Finally after 25hrs I put her into some rolls and loops! I told myself that I wouldn't attempt anything unitl I felt I had a complete handle on al of her systems. I actually had the disipline to wait 25hrs! :ernae: How's that for FS geek! hehe

[Lewis-A2A]

Nice one Mud!

Proper training, though I feel you waited maybe a bit longer than some of the poor chaps during the war actually got,.. amazing times.

And no it would not work with fs2004, the old sim is just so, limited. :engel016:

Maybe in the future we will have the time to try it though.

[deimos256]

This really is a terrific plane, since purchase on friday i already have 8 hours invested, which is a lot for me considering i dont sim all that much. I never was a razorback fan but this has made me fall in love with it

[Lewis-A2A]

Glad your enjoying it Deimos, the paints I posted are now up at AV sim for people to download. :ernae:

[deimos256]

oh i already got them, love em!

[Fireball6]

Thanks for the paint Lewis, great ! It is my personal favorite because it is a real "Fireball Six" if you have a closer look to Donald :jump:

[MudMarine]

Lewis's great paint..........

[jankees]

I just uploaded these two repaints.
If you like them, show me a screenshot please

[Barvan40]

I just uploaded these two repaints.
If you like them, show me a screenshot please

I like them, thanks Jankees!! :applause:

[Lewis-A2A]

The early Bonnie is out at AVSIM;
bonnie.zip

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/bonnie.jpg

:ernae:

[SolarEagle]

Can anybody tell me what the purpose of oil dilution is, and why one would need to use it?

[will_b]

Can anybody tell me what the purpose of oil dilution is, and why one would need to use it?

It's used for starting the engine in very cold conditions.

[SolarEagle]

Makes sense. Thanks!

[CodyValkyrie]

The point with oil dilution is to use it when you think you will start the aircraft in cold conditions. Since flights can be saved, if you find yourself landing in Alaska, you may want to dilute the engine prior to shutting down. It will make the next load of the aircraft easier to start.

[SolarEagle]

I assume that dilutes all oil in the system, but I would think lubrication would affected once the oil is back up to temp. Thinned out oil isn't problem for an engine going into combat which may be pushed to within an inch of its life? lol

[MudMarine]

A2A video's have a great tutorial on how to use the dilution system.

[SolarEagle]

I can't get over how awesome this thing is. I was studying the engine sound tonight and I have to say it's the most well done I've ever heard, right there with the A2A P-40. When I move around the aircraft I hear exactly what I would expect to hear from a given position, and I don't think that can't be said for anything else in my collection other than the P-40. I like finding those sweet spots where the exhaust note was caught just right, then running the engine through the range. One of the coolest parts to me is the way the engine sounds are linked directly with the effects, so every bump, burp and backfire has just the right pop, poof or billow of smoke. Listening to is just as much fun as looking at it. It's hard to pull my self away actually. lol

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorline33.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorline12.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorline1.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorline22.jpg

[codeseven]

Just think, Accusim is in it's infancy, I repeat, infancy! It will only continue to grow and mature. The door has been unlocked to an all new world of simming the affect of which we (maybe even A2A at this point) can not imagine.

Believe it or not, even A2A's B377 and Razorback will begin to pale compared to what's in store for the future. Hard to imagine at this 'early' stage and given that were currently enjoying the best there is, but man, am I looking forward to the treasure's that these guys are going to bring to the sim community! Hats off A2A!!

[IanHenry]

After initially having reservations about the price of the P 47 I have to say that it is money well spent, in fact I haven’t flown anything else since I bought it over a week ago, so congratulations to A2A for an excellent product.
Now where’s that Phantom?
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Regards,
Ian

[jankees]

You may have noticed already, but Daring Dottie is available for download, exclusively here on sim-outhouse.

Happy flying!
Oh, and if you like her, please post a screenshot?

Jan Kees

[Lewis-A2A]

Here you go Jans a couple screenies. I took my Bonnie and your Dottie up for a bathe n the Pacific Sun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/bonnie-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/dottie.jpg

[jankees]

Here you go Jans a couple screenies. I took my Bonnie and your Dottie up for a bathe n the Pacific Sun

Don't they make a nice pair?

[Lewis-A2A]

Yes a good pair fo Jugs :friday:

[CodyValkyrie]

Yes a good pair fo Jugs :friday:
Lewis... This is one of those sentences that if you didn't know the pretext for it, one might have a raised eyebrow.

[6297J]

Lewis... This is one of those sentences that if you didn't know the pretext for it, one might have a raised eyebrow.

He's 24 - he knows exactly what he's saying :jump::jump:

[deimos256]

All of these paints are fantastic but i must ask, wheres the love for the ETO paints?

[Lewis-A2A]

My first two were ETO and I have more planned. Have this ETO in the works...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/Luft_P47.jpg

And got an RAF one on the mind + another standard Olive ETO one :ernae:

[6297J]

English Touring Opera?

[gajit]

English Touring Opera?


LOL - i love their blend of engine and song :friday:

[SolarEagle]

I think I broke my 23 model. No matter what I can't start it. The sim locked up while using it, and since then it won't start. I have reinstalled the aircraft, as well as accusim, with no change. Same issue with accusim turned off. The other models run just fine, 20 and 22.

Ctrl-E causes a starter motor type of noise, the prop begins rotating, and I hear a backfire about every four seconds. There is fuel in the tank, and the tank is selected. If I load it after another plane has been loaded the engine is off upon loading the 23 model, and again can't be started.

Any ideas?

[Nick C]

Have you run the engine overhaul option? Also, do you have auto mixture turned on?

[SolarEagle]

Sorry I forgot to include those details, but engine overhaul was complete, and auto mixture is not enabled. Whatever the issue it seems specific to the 23 model since the 20 and 22 work fine for me.

[SolarEagle]

Well I got it fixed, had to uninstall it first. Shoulda done that last night but wanted to go to bed since it was 6am and I had to work at 1pm. lol Thanks for the help though.

Here's my two favorite paints, both released as freeware, which is an awesome bonus.

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorback1.jpg

http://sio.midco.net/ftp6/razorback6.jpg

[jankees]

speaking of freeware repaints, I've just uploaded this one, for the fans of Oz among you.
I know, purely fictional, but it could have been, couldn't it?

[jankees]

All of these paints are fantastic but i must ask, wheres the love for the ETO paints?

patience, my friend, patience. All good things come to those that wait....













OK, waited long enough, how's this for an ETO paint? Still WiP, mind you!

[gajit]

Your definately getting the hang of this!!! :friday:

[6297J]

Does anyone know how to buy Gift Certificates on the A2A site?? I can't find them to save my life!

edit - I got my brother to buy it for me in exchange for some of my Christmas Amazon vouchers - downloading now :jump:

[gajit]

Well done 97J

[CG_1976]

Request for rare elusive Cuban P-47 please.

F-47D-35-RAUnit: Fuerza Aerea Ejercito de Cuba
Serial: 452
Columbia Camp, June 1953. The sole P-47 has painting like this. The rest P-47s have Red, Green and Yellow colours.

One of my usual req. My p-47 is naked without a Cuban paint. All help appreciated.

[jankees]

Request for rare elusive Cuban P-47 please.

F-47D-35-RAUnit: Fuerza Aerea Ejercito de Cuba
Serial: 452
Columbia Camp, June 1953. The sole P-47 has painting like this. The rest P-47s have Red, Green and Yellow colours.

One of my usual req. My p-47 is naked without a Cuban paint. All help appreciated.

but this is a bubbletop?

[6297J]

Well done 97J


Thanks gajit. Like you I passed on the Accusim module to start with but I'm pleased with what is included in the standard package (although I was a bit disappointed to find that the open canopy sounds were Accusim only). I may elect to get Accusim in a few weeks. And of course I've added a few of these wonderful repaints too.
Thank you A2A :applause:

[CG_1976]

but this is a bubbletop?


True the cubans had bubble tops. They earlier had the one wop made. No known pics although as both known non bubbletops crashed. only written accounts and logs. Id assume being pre revolution that the non bubbletops would have supported the same schemes as the bubbletops. drawing that conclusion from the hawker seafury, and the p-51.

[jankees]

I've made some more progress on my latest repaint, of an aircraft of the 410th FS/ 373rd FG, based in Woodchurch, UK.
I saw a pic of this aircraft over Mont St Michel, showing bare metal, invasion stripes that had been overpainted and some really bad paint weathering, and I thought, now there's a challenge!
I'm not quite satisfied, but making progress. What do you think? Any comments so far?

[gajit]

Excellent Jankees - I like them rough :ernae:

[SolarEagle]

Quick tip: At least on my system self shadows causes a pretty big performance hit on this one, perhaps like the Aerosoft F-16 due to some of the curved surfaces, so if you've got that on try turning it off. I saw a 10-15% increase when I disabled it.

[gajit]

Quick tip: At least on my system self shadows causes a pretty big performance hit on this one, perhaps like the Aerosoft F-16 due to some of the curved surfaces, so if you've got that on try turning it off. I saw a 10-15% increase when I disabled it.


Hi SolarEagle

Its odd how it all works - I get excellent FPS on the P47 with everything on - but as you say on the F-16 i cant fly without self shadow off. I also find that on the Realair Hellcat. Its a shame.

[yago9]

Was ready to purchase this one until I saw the 36$ expansion pack.. for nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds..Talking about greed..I think a 42 $ model should have the fancy sounds and simulations included. They did the same with the Stratocruiser..Horrible sale practice ,no deals with A2A on my part.

[Barvan40]

Fantastic aircraft!!

[ICDP]

Was ready to purchase this one until I saw the 36$ expansion pack.. for nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds..Talking about greed..I think a 42 $ model should have the fancy sounds and simulations included. They did the same with the Stratocruiser..Horrible sale practice ,no deals with A2A on my part.

I would like to correct you on the price of the WoP3 P-47D. The WoP3 P47-D Razorback costs $35, not the $42 that you have quoted and the expansion pack is $30 not $36. Your description of Accu-Sim as "nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds" implies you most likely have never experienced it. To be honest the time it takes to develop the system/engine modeling for an Accu-Sim expansion for each specific aircraft is far too prohibitive and costly to give it away for free.

The total cost of the WoP3 P-47D with Accu-Sim expansion included is $59.98. Some people make the very unfair mistake of looking at this $59.98 price-tag and thinking "for one single warbird addon, no way. That's far too much".

I don't know where you are getting the $78 price from.

[gajit]

Was ready to purchase this one until I saw the 36$ expansion pack.. for nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds..Talking about greed..I think a 42 $ model should have the fancy sounds and simulations included. They did the same with the Stratocruiser..Horrible sale practice ,no deals with A2A on my part.

You definately get what you pay for on both of the products - fantastic value compared to some of the lower cost products that i have been daft enough to buy which have stupid issues with frame rates and missing textures, terrible modeling and awful flight dynamics.

I wont mention them as they know who they are!!!

I am so finding it hard to fault anything with the P-47

[jankees]

Was ready to purchase this one until I saw the 36$ expansion pack.. for nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds..Talking about greed..I think a 42 $ model should have the fancy sounds and simulations included. They did the same with the Stratocruiser..Horrible sale practice ,no deals with A2A on my part.

Money is one part of the equation, sure, but there's the model on the other side.
Personally, I think this is the best model for FSX, by an enormous distance. Everything else seems simple and boring, ok, except the Saab Safir maybe.
So in that respect, it seems cheap. I paid the equivalent of $22 for a Mosquito once, and stopped flying it after a week. Here, it took me a week to to take off and land in one piece, without any dull moments..so I think it is relatively cheap.
You think it is too expensive? No problem, don't buy it. I never bought the Stratocruiser, I don't like tubeliners, so I thought it was too expensive. Never any regrets, but I never blamed the company. They make it, they are entitled to ask what they want. You (and me) repaint aircraft, for free. Our choice. Were we to ask money, quite a few people would say "I'm not paying for this, that's too expensive", and that would be their choice, wouldn't it? Warbirdsim was planning on not allowing repaints, and charging us for new repaints. Would you buy any? Don't think so, I certainly wouldn't, too expensive...because I can do it myself.
So, I can repaint a bit, but I can't make the entire model. A2A can and do, (and do it really well), and they want to see money for it. Their prerogative, as it is our prerogative to buy, or not to buy...but I wouldn't call it horrible sale practice, or greed.
Just my opinion, you don't have to agree of course...

OK, one more pic then...

[jankees]

I am so finding it hard to fault anything with the P-47

well....there are some unpleasant parts in the paintkit...but apart from that, 10 out 10 from me!

[gajit]

well....there are some unpleasant parts in the paintkit...but apart from that, 10 out 10 from me!


That dont seem to be stopping you producing some excellent paints - thanks Jankees :applause:

[6297J]

The only problem I'm having with it at the moment is that I can't keep the Cylinder head temperature under 240 degrees no matter what I do. According to the manual I should be at about 200 and should avoid exceeding 232 continuously but even with cowl flaps at 80% and diving to try to cool off the only way to bring them down is to land and switch the engine off.
Which can't be right!
(This is non accusim by the way)

[chinookmark]

[quote=yago9;119349.. for nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds..[/quote]

I haven't bought the P-47 yet, but I do have the B377 and Accusim expansion, just to see what all they hype was about. I really had no interest in a four engine tubeliner, especially not an ugly one, but I was curious.

I was blown away. Absolutely amazed! Now, I fly the B377 more than anything else in my hangar. Beyond some fancy systems modeling, this is the first FS aircraft I've flown with an actual personality. Just like an old car or motorcycle, it's got quirks. My #3 engine was hard to start, but #2 always ran hot, usually requiring a richer mixture than the rest. That is, until I mismanaged the carb heat on a hot day and set all four engines on fire! And if you beat up on it, it's shows its wear with age. My #4 engine is the only original one (the other three having been overhauled), and shows all the wear and tear of me learning to start and fly the beast. It's really hard to start and burns about a gallon of oil every thirty or fourty minutes, but also runs cooler and uses less fuel than the other three.

If it's more than you want to spend, I understand completely. I was anti-payware for years. I also understand if you'd rather just fly rather than manage turbos and oil coolers. But I disagree with your opinion about the company's business practices. This is truly an amazing piece of software that pushes the boundaries of FSX probably farther than ACES ever intended.

[crashaz]

Intercoolers and Oil Coolers set to at least neutral, 6297J?

If those are closed the engine runs purdy hot.

[6297J]

Intercoolers and Oil Coolers set to at least neutral, 6297J?

If those are closed the engine runs purdy hot.

Yep, both open. In fact opening them makes a pretty immediate difference. With the cowl flaps the difference is slower to take effect and the temps only drop so far. According to the manual, not far enough.

[Lewis-A2A]

Just for perspective, here is a list of other addons:
Flight 1 Spitfire - $49.95
Aerosoft - Piper Cheyenne X - $46.00
Aerosoft Katana - $44.95
Flight 1 Marchetti SF 260 - $45
Wilco Citation - $44.95
Aerosoft Hughes H-1B - 44.75
Flight 1 Bf109 - $44.95
Iris T-6 - $39.99
A2A Wings of Power 3: P47 - $34.99 ($28.99 for existing P47 owners)


And I've found some time to finish up the basic of this, it just needs apha's and specs sorting now and ill post it on avsim at some point.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/47luft.jpg

[6297J]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9994/50376tag3.jpg

I prefer my Nazi Jugs to look like this.

[jankees]

And I've found some time to finish up the basic of this, it just needs apha's and specs sorting now and ill post it on avsim at some point.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Madaboutsims/47luft.jpg
Looks good Lewis.....well no, not really, I prefer stars and bars or roundels, but hey, nice paintjob!
But why are you using differential brakes while flying?

[Lewis-A2A]

Yes this was just for something a bit different, I need to scan in a few profiles for Halesworth Birds before I get back to the Stars and Bars and of course 'interesting' nose art :amen:

[jankees]

Cool, you work on the Halesworth aircraft, I'll enjoy myself in the Pacific...
Meanwhile, I've found another repaint problem, look at the rudder/tail...this is going to be funny if/when we tackle the checkertails...

[Lewis-A2A]

The Swastika on my tail says its doable :friday:

Its surprisingly easy as well I was able to just cut the half were the rudder is and position it down or up slightly.

[jankees]

The Swastika on my tail says its doable :friday:

Its surprisingly easy as well I was able to just cut the half were the rudder is and position it down or up slightly.

true, true..

everything is doable, just you wait...

[yago9]

I would like to correct you on the price of the WoP3 P-47D. The WoP3 P47-D Razorback costs $35, not the $42 that you have quoted and the expansion pack is $30 not $36. Your description of Accu-Sim as "nothing else but some systems simulation and improved sounds" implies you most likely have never experienced it. To be honest the time it takes to develop the system/engine modeling for an Accu-Sim expansion for each specific aircraft is far too prohibitive and costly to give it away for free.

The total cost of the WoP3 P-47D with Accu-Sim expansion included is $59.98. Some people make the very unfair mistake of looking at this $59.98 price-tag and thinking "for one single warbird addon, no way. That's far too much".

I don't know where you are getting the $78 price from.

simmarket. Razorback costs $41.78 for the model and the fantasy expansion pack is $35.70.Total=77.48 I have another idea for A2A, how about adding some smell simulations in the expension description for another extra 10$. I wouldnt be surprised at all . I do not doubt that it,s a great model, i just dont agree with this kind of marketing tactics...

[spotlope]

I would pay $10 for smells. Hell, make it $12. :friday:

[SolarEagle]

No offence Yago, and I know there will be none taken, but I've seen you post at three different forums, and at each of those three your posts were in fact the rudest and most insulting posts I observed. So from behind my screen, you appear as quite the jerk, though I may well be blind.

[gajit]

No offence Yago, and I know there will be none taken, but I've seen you post at three different forums, and at each of those three your posts were in fact the rudest and most insulting posts I observed. So from behind my screen, you appear as quite the jerk, though I may well be blind.


I wonder what he is hoping to achieve other than to extol even more praise and support for A2A

[jankees]

simmarket. Razorback costs $41.78 for the model and the fantasy expansion pack is $35.70.Total=77.48 I have another idea for A2A, how about adding some smell simulations in the expension description for another extra 10$. I wouldnt be surprised at all . I do not doubt that it,s a great model, i just dont agree with this kind of marketing tactics...

So let me get this straight, you can buy it on the A2A site for $65, you find it somewhere else for 78, and you start complaining about A2A marketing tactics??

[ICDP]

simmarket. Razorback costs $41.78 for the model and the fantasy expansion pack is $35.70.Total=77.48 I have another idea for A2A, how about adding some smell simulations in the expension description for another extra 10$. I wouldnt be surprised at all . I do not doubt that it,s a great model, i just dont agree with this kind of marketing tactics...

Then may I suggest you use the A2A store from this link to check the correct prices. If you have the older WoP2 P-47D, either stand alone or as part of the WoP2 WWII Fighters pack, you will get another $7 rebate off that price.

Total price of $52.98. for the P-47D, Accu-Sim expansion with all rebates.

http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=28&zenid=14345f43b0bc9ae28a90b49f70c959e8

Yago you are entitled to your opinion and I actually respect it and even understand where you are coming from. Having said that you really aren't helping your argument by adopting a nasty and derogatory tone while at the same time using the most expensive source for prices. Describing the Accu-Sim expansion pack as "fantasy" is pure fantasy on your part (pun intended). Here is a quote direct from a real pilot. I hope he (or she) doesn't mind me posting this here.

"Hello guys,
Just had to write and tell you..Absolutely perfect.. Thanks very much for the P-47 Razorback, (my favorite bird!), the B377 also, and Accu-Sim. A little digression is needed here.. I have been flying professionally now for quite some time and love to hone skills as it were, by flying MS flight sims at home. As a result, I have always been a huge fan of true realism, ie. engine operation, sounds and flight dynamics.. etc.. In my opinion, when all things are considered, this can be difficult to find in the Add-on market.
I have to say though, your Accu-Sim, the level of detail in your aircraft, and what you have done for FSX, is the most realistic simulation of a radial engine and its limitations that I have seen. The sounds and graphics certainly are better than some Cat A/Level D training simulators that the airlines use. You have brought Flight Simulation to a new level. Exactly what the Flight Simulation community needs.
Keep up the good work."

I hope my points are giving some clarity on our pricing policy and helping to show you what Accu-Sim is really capable off.

[some1]

simmarket. Razorback costs $41.78 for the model and the fantasy expansion pack is $35.70.Total=77.48

That's VAT. Simmarket is EU company and they have to pay European taxes. I'm not sure if this applies to simmarket customers from US, but if you think its marketing tactics of some sort, you're wrong.

[Epsillon]

Cool, you work on the Halesworth aircraft, I'll enjoy myself in the Pacific...
Meanwhile, I've found another repaint problem, look at the rudder/tail...this is going to be funny if/when we tackle the checkertails...
This "Little Gem" looks great, Jan! :applause::applause::applause:

Talking about checkertails, you will be happy with WS P-51B...

76652

Red arrows are only five examples of many deformation points.
I had to cut this part into 8 pieces to obtain this result (not perfect but correct I think).
I will send you the template if you want to save time or do better...;)

Regards,

Stephan

[crashaz]

Wow nice work fellas all the way around!

Mustang painters helping out Thunderbolt painters... only @ SOH! :ernae:

What's next?! Cats and Dogs living together?

[jankees]

This "Little Gem" looks great, Jan! :applause::applause::applause:

Talking about checkertails, you will be happy with WS P-51B...

Red arrows are only five examples of many deformation points.
I had to cut this part into 8 pieces to obtain this result (not perfect but correct I think).
I will send you the template if you want to save time or do better...;)

Regards,

Stephan

Well, first I'll want the FSX version, and you seem to have done quite a few checkertails already, that all look great, so I'll have to see what will be left...
But I did get some more work done on the Gem, slowly getting there...

[chinookmark]

this is going to be funny if/when we tackle the checkertails...

What do you mean "if"? :ernae:

[jankees]

What do you mean "if"? :ernae:

you never know..
meanwhile in Burma...

[jankees]

...and in New Guinea...

[Antoninus]

After I had finally some time to fly and test the P-47 I have to say that this is a true masterpiece. The best addon I've bought so far, indeed the best warbird and all sims I know. It has everything I always dreamed to see in Flight Simulator. For me definitely worth every cent. I rather buy one exceptional plane like the Thunderbolt than two with little more depth than the default aircraft. The only thing I have to criticize is that it's no Corsair.

[Kowalski65]

I am drooling over this plane! In fact I have downloaded awesome several paintjobs by Jankees for it!
The only problem is...I havent actually got it!! :wiggle: Paid, downloaded about 82% of it,then FlashGet had a fit & cant d/l anymore of it-when I tried to d/l my other allowed downloads as mirrors of the 1st,it didnt play ball so now I have no spare capacity to carry on. I have e mailed A2A a week ago but no reply yet-that's surprising as they were excellent about refunding some payment I made when I accidently bought the Strat twice after hitting the Paypal button twice:faint:I love the start, & am certain I will love the Jug too...eventualy :)

[Blade124]

Kowalski,

We don't have an email from you or any outstanding support emails, but I looked up "Kowalski" and reset your download count. If this is not you, just PM me your info.

Scott.

[Kowalski65]

Scott Sir, you are a STAR! :ernae:You found me & Im downloading again now!How's that for service, and on a Sunday too!!
I had only planned to drop in to check on the RTW race progress, and had planned to be in bed an hour ago, looks like I will be up all night taking this baby for a spin:typing:

[SolarEagle]

Here's lots of info and performance figures... Pretty much every WWII aircraft is detailed.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47.html

This doc here is interesting. This was a standard proceedure for approving engine tolerance but basically before an engine could be cleared for a given War Emergency Power setting there was a requirement of passing a 7 1/2 hour test runt. I wonder how accusim would hadle such a test? I suppose it could take almost 2 hours to find out cuz I think the manual said anything over 4x sim time causes issues with accusim, though I'm thinking Accusim would not allow a WEP run of anywhere near that long. Considering Other add on's I have blow up after 15mins of WEP, whatever duration accusim gives over 15mins has got to be more realistic. I found some 150 octane tests for other engines as well, and there again they required a 7 1/2 hour test at the new power settings.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/150grade/p-47-66inch.jpg

[Kowalski65]

What did I say-damn all sleep for me ! but who cares when you have something this beautiful to play with...had better not tell the missus!!

[yago9]

So let me get this straight, you can buy it on the A2A site for $65, you find it somewhere else for 78, and you start complaining about A2A marketing tactics??

It,s kinda wird your passion on debating me again over this issue but hey , at least I know your real reason..anyway, I do not want to create accounts for each payware company outhere so I barely visit those sites.
I,m buying the stuff from simmarket for years. The marketing tactic I was talking about has nothing to do with the price difference..You make an overpriced product than you split it in two packages.Some extra bucks there Alphasim style.At least they give you some ,,extra" visual models with that. This is my opinion and you dont have to agree or like it ,I respect all yours though, without name calling.

[gajit]

Whilst your still moaning about the price - im in here :wavey:

Aren't we lucky to be able to have a hint of the feeling of flying one of these warbirds without a very real chance of being killed by enemy flak, aircraft etc? Wife is only hostile here LOL

[Cazzie]

The paintkit is available now!

http://www.gamershell.com/news_68676.html (http://www.gamershell.com/news_68676.html)

Enjoy! :jump::jump::jump:

Many thanks for the link Epsilon! :rapture:

With that, I have just finished this, will be packaging the paint for SOH later today.

This repaint for A2A's WOP III P-47D was inspired by a decal received in the latest issue of the IPMS/USA Journal, January-February 2009, Volume 21, Number 01.

A special note of gratitude goes out to Jack Morris of JDMC Graphics for the original artwork, Roy Sutherland and Barracuda decals for the decal production, and Chris Bucholtz of Obscureco Aircraft for the sponsorship of this fine debt of gratitude to one of our surviving heroes.

The decal is for a P-47D-11-RE flown by Lt. James (Jim) Ashford of the 379th Fighter Squadron, 362nd Fighter Group, 9th Air Force. Please note that though I used three of the the decal images for templates, all artwork was redone by me to properly fit the stretched texture given in the paint kit and no cut-out scan of the decal was rendered on the repaint. Fonts used were Amarillo USAF and USAAF Stencil.

As most well-heeled aviation historians know, the 379th FS had a pilot named George Rarey, who had been a commercial artist in New York before the war. Lt. Ashord's P-47 "Okole Maluna" was painted by Rarey and originally featured a Rarey Bird flying upside down, as Rarey took "Okole Maluna" to mean "Bottoms Up". But "okule" means "ass" in Hawaiian, Ashford's native territory, so Ashford told Rarey to use a can-can girl and the rest is history.

The plane lasted through an overhaul and and accident repair before finally suffering an engine failure over Belgian in March 1945. Ashford nursed the plane back to England, but it was written off after landing. Overall, 28 of Lt. Ashford 99 missions were flown in "Okole Maluna". He only had one air combat kill, but the 379th's job was not air combat, it was train busting, and they did their job pretty up and walking good.

Many thanks also for the fantastic paint kit provided for the A2A payware WOP III P-47 by A2A.

Caz

[6297J]

If I hadn't lost my job yago I would be tempted to start an 'Ickie fund' to buy this for you in thanks for all your terrific repaints.
I am a very cynical old simmer who thinks most addons are really not worth the money and a lot of addons I have bought over the years have been uninstalled almost immediately. Some have made me furious!
But since getting this P-47 I have flown nothing else and I am by no means a military or WWII aircraft enthusiast.
All of a sudden FSX feels like a different experience entirey. (And I am talking about the non Accusim version!)

[fsafranek]

Whilst your still moaning about the price - im in here :wavey:

Aren't we lucky to be able to have a hint of the feeling of flying one of these warbirds without a very real chance of being killed by enemy flak, aircraft etc? Wife is only hostile here LOL
Good image Gajit. Looks very nice. Can you pull the gunsight and mount a Garmin there instead?
Or would that be blasphemy? Something along the lines of this video (thanks for the link ThudPilot via rsgunner)

http://clipwings.com/index.php?command=show_video&video_id=390 (http://clipwings.com/index.php?command=show_video&video_id=390)
:ernae:

[gajit]

Wow - thats great Frank - thanks for the link.

above engine noise "I WOULD PAY THE SAME AGAIN FOR A BUBBLE TOP VERSION"

Do we know if the pilot has enough forward view to see the lead plane during the initial take off roll??

[hews500d]

I was in Pigeon Forge TN about 3 years ago at some of the factory outlet stores and the P-47s from the museum were flying touch and goes. That's about the sweetest sound I've ever heard LOL. The wife went shopping thru several stores so I was able to stay outside and watch them :jump:

Darrell

[gajit]

I was in Pigeon Forge TN about 3 years ago at some of the factory outlet stores and the P-47s from the museum were flying touch and goes. That's about the sweetest sound I've ever heard LOL. The wife went shopping thru several stores so I was able to stay outside and watch them :jump:

Darrell

Lucky bleeper :jump:

[fsafranek]

above engine noise "I WOULD PAY THE SAME AGAIN FOR A BUBBLE TOP VERSION"

I say the same thing to myself every time I glance this thread.
Still not a buyer but most likely will be when that time comes.



Do we know if the pilot has enough forward view to see the lead plane during the initial take off roll??

Not sure. They did come off separate and then joined up. With the scarcity
of these old birds I wouldn't take any unnecessary chances. The crowd will
just have to be happy with tight flyovers. No matter what they paid for the
show, if anything, it's just not worth it, IMHO.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p><!-- / message -->
:ernae:

[hews500d]

Lucky bleeper :jump:


Lucky in more ways than one LOL! I got to see the P-47's AND got out of shopping :jump:

Darrell

[gajit]

Lucky in more ways than one LOL! I got to see the P-47's AND got out of shopping :jump:

Darrell

:applause::applause::applause::applause:

[gajit]

Jankees - thanks for Frankie's Turbo - great work as always and thanks for sharing. :wave:

[jankees]

Jankees - thanks for Frankie's Turbo - great work as always and thanks for sharing. :wave:

Glad you like it!

[FlameOut]

jankees ,

You just gotta stop it now.... I've got some other birds that need some loving attention !

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-23_20-10-26-105.png


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-23_20-24-13-373.png


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-23_20-24-17-81.png

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-23_20-20-6-581.png


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-16_18-18-57-654.png

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/Big_Don_2006/2009-2-16_18-51-1-60.png





:applause: :applause: Thank you very much