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SteveB
September 27th, 2008, 03:06
Oh well, good job I have some updated screenies :d
Still WIP, I am still working on the details, fuselage pretty much done, wings 50% done and other bits about 33% done. They should be ready for upload next weekend all being well.

SteveB
September 27th, 2008, 03:09
I have no idea what this is doing on my post.

Last edited by CWD; June 7th, 2005 at 06:22. Reason: Dang it! Looks like some emoticon codes changed again...

Prob still some probs need sorting on the forums.

doublecool
September 27th, 2008, 05:56
Lookin good Steve...:wavey::ernae: Thanks

SteveB
September 30th, 2008, 03:04
I have just about finished the details on the provider, now i've got cammo edges to play with :d

Crusader
September 30th, 2008, 04:12
Really looking forward to these Steve . Taking the 123 through the hills and valleys brings back alot of memories . It has needed some new paint for along time .

Rich

rpjkw
September 30th, 2008, 04:41
Beautiful work, Steve. :applause::applause::applause:The -123 has long been a favorite of mine, but sadly relegated to the rear of the hangar for the lack of repaints.

Now, thanks to you................:jump:

Bob

Daveroo
September 30th, 2008, 05:43
what 123 is this?.......and most important..does it have a VC?...lol

Crusader
September 30th, 2008, 07:00
what 123 is this?.......and most important..does it have a VC?...lol

As you can see it does have a VC , obviously not quite up todays standard but overall an excellent job by Vladimir Zhyhulskiy .

Well worth the download at flightsim.com and fun to fly .

Rich
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FS2004 Fairchild C-123 K Provider
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SteveB
September 30th, 2008, 08:03
Here's an update on the USAF scheme.

SteveB
September 30th, 2008, 15:51
And I have been playing with a Cambodian Airforce scheme as well.

SteveB
October 3rd, 2008, 08:19
I have finnished up on the masters or so I thought, I was just working on the readmes when I realised that because the model I have been working on, the B model, I had completely forgotten about the jato engines on the K models :banghead:. I will rectify this tonight and upload the first few paints tommorow.

SteveB
October 3rd, 2008, 10:32
Seeing how the USCG only used B models I have just uploaded the paint, It should show up a little later.

Steve

SteveB
October 3rd, 2008, 14:07
This one will be uploaded next, just got a couple of minor edges to sort.

Flyboy208
October 3rd, 2008, 14:25
Cracking repaints Steve, all it need now is a Banana Bob prop mod.

Cheers! Mike :ernae:

Flyboy208
October 3rd, 2008, 15:07
Yes, this US Coast Guard repaint is excellent Steve! I find that Banana Bob's prop for Vladimir's AN2 Colt works well, even if the C-123 has 3-bladed props, the 4-blade setip looks fine to me.

Cheers! Mike :ernae:

SteveB
October 3rd, 2008, 15:20
Nice piccies Mike, it is nice too see piccies from someone elses sim rather than just my own :d. It's a shame theres only one texture for both the wing bottoms, it makes it difficult to be accurate. But apart from that it's not too dificult too paint overall. Talking of which I have just uploaded the SEA cammo scheme paint.

Steve

SteveB
October 3rd, 2008, 16:18
This one will be up next, it just needs a couple of edges finnishing up, so I will be uploading it tommorow.

Flyboy208
October 3rd, 2008, 17:54
Nice piccies Mike, it is nice too see piccies from someone elses sim rather than just my own :d. It's a shame theres only one texture for both the wing bottoms, it makes it difficult to be accurate. But apart from that it's not too dificult too paint overall. Talking of which I have just uploaded the SEA cammo scheme paint.

Steve

Nice, looking forward to some 'Nam flying! Cheers! Mike :applause:

PeteHam
October 3rd, 2008, 20:36
Yes, this US Coast Guard repaint is excellent Steve! I find that Banana Bob's prop for Vladimir's AN2 Colt works well, even if the C-123 has 3-bladed props, the 4-blade setip looks fine to me.

Cheers! Mike :ernae:

Thanks Flyboy :applause:

I tried a few of Banana Bobs props but had no joy and I was going to ask if anyone could recommend a good prop.

Steve, the new textures look great. Looking forward to trying them. :ernae:

Pete.

Jagdflieger
October 3rd, 2008, 21:58
Steve,

Not only did the Cambodian AF and the VNAF fly the Provider, but the Royal Thai Air Force operated them for many years too.

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 02:30
Steve,

Not only did the Cambodian AF and the VNAF fly the Provider, but the Royal Thai Air Force operated them for many years too.


As well as South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Laos and the phillipines not to mention a couple of private firms like Butler Air Services and Air America. There are plenty of schemes available to do, thats why i'll be uploading the layered paintkit incase anyone wants to do any of them :d.

Steve

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 06:22
Both the USAF and VNAF schemes are now available for download. I'm not sure which scheme is next, too many too choose from lol.

Steve

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 08:08
Oh well decision made as I just finnished uploading the Cambodian scheme.

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 09:02
This one is getting finnished up next, after all got to give them there civilians something too play with.:d

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 13:34
Almost done, will get it finnished and uploaded tonight.

pfflyers
October 4th, 2008, 14:41
Been out playing with the USCG Provider off the Oregon coast. Just installed the newest skins. Thanks.

SteveB
October 4th, 2008, 14:50
Nice piccies mate, I have just uploaded the N698SM scheme, It will show up once admin has played with it.

Steve

doublecool
October 4th, 2008, 16:51
These are Great Steve :applause::ernae:

PeteHam
October 4th, 2008, 19:45
This one is getting finnished up next, after all got to give them there civilians something too play with.:d

:jump::jump::jump: :applause::applause: :ernae::ernae:

Thanks Steve.

Pete.

doublecool
October 5th, 2008, 04:17
oh ya Lookin Very Good:ernae:

ian elliot
October 5th, 2008, 10:07
Loving these repaints Steve, thank you. what sounds are you guys using for the 123
cheers ian

SteveB
October 5th, 2008, 10:40
I'm still using the DC3 sounds for now I have been too busy shoving paint brushes in places to get around too worrying about the rest of it :d. Glad you guys like the paints, the dog is going around complaining she is a computer widow again after the past couple of weeks:costumes:

dogknot
October 5th, 2008, 10:44
Loving these repaints Steve, thank you. what sounds are you guys using for the 123
cheers ian

This is what I'm using:


SOUNDS
P&W 2800's
Canadair CL215
mt215fs9.zip @ flightsim.com
Sound files of Pratt&Whitney R2800 piston engine comes from the similar Piston engined Martin B26 Marauder "Hitch Hiker" released by David Eckert, R.L. Clark,Paul Roberts for Fs2004

PROP
BananaBob
_374_3_Blade_Prop_B24.rar
3 blade prop for the WoP B-24 Bomber

sbp
October 5th, 2008, 17:43
Thank you, Steve. Real nice. For what it's worth the USAF SEA cammo C-123K call sign was "Booky", as in "Booky 238". I was an USAF air traffic controller in county 1962 and 1970/71. Nha Trang Tower, Thy Hoa Tower and Danang Tower. I've downloaded all your C-123's except the Black Sp Ops 123, Can't find it, yet. These Sp Ops guy's flew out of Danang in 1970/71. One day some AF guy was out near the runway, (17L) taking photo's of one of the "Black Bird's and the pilot radioed us and ask us to call the Air Police and, "get that guys film" ! Which we did and wached the film retreval. That Black Bird pilot was not a happy camper. I know what their mission was but can't state it as it might be still classified. All I'll say it was defenitly some black ops stuff. Anyway, keep up the great work.

spamnacan

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 02:09
The Black schemes will be out sometime this week, a completely black and an SEA cammo with black undersides are planned. When I was in service we also used too aviod publicity and did horrible things to anyone caught taking photo's:d

Steve

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 03:09
Heres the latest piccie of the all black scheme.

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 03:44
Just uploaded the USAF all black spec ops scheme.

Steve

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 06:06
I have just uploaded my layered masters. And the black scheme is now showing as available for download.

Steve

Quicksand
October 6th, 2008, 06:42
Thanks for all your hard work, SteveB. Your textures have breathed some new life into this bird. I really think she is most attractive in black:d......

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 07:27
Thanks for all your hard work, SteveB. Your textures have breathed some new life into this bird. I really think she is most attractive in black:d......


Black is always good for making fat birds look slimmer :costumes:

Pultacatt
October 6th, 2008, 07:30
Excellent Steve! Now to get off mah bahoukey and test the darn thing is FSX as promised :d

Quicksand
October 6th, 2008, 07:43
Black is always good for making fat birds look slimmer :costumes:


It seems especially true in this case, too:d.....

CG_1976
October 6th, 2008, 08:28
SteveB, Check the FSX Forums. I posted some nice pics for you. The paints work on a FSX model available at Avsim. See FSX and FS9 can work hand in hand.:applause:

SteveB
October 6th, 2008, 08:36
SteveB, Check the FSX Forums. I posted some nice pics for you. The paints work on a FSX model available at Avsim. See FSX and FS9 can work hand in hand.:applause:

Not on my old steam powered rig they won't. Glad too hear that it works in X and have just posted a response.

Steve

racartron
October 6th, 2008, 09:48
Hey Tim, I thought I had every TVA skin ever made, but haven't seen the Pilatus (AFG?) in your avatar. I also don't see it on the website. I gotta have it -- if possible.:jump:

CG_1976
October 6th, 2008, 09:57
Hey Tim, I thought I had every TVA skin ever made, but haven't seen the Pilatus (AFG?) in your avatar. I also don't see it on the website. I gotta have it -- if possible.:jump:
The avatar depicts the Lionheart Epic. Available for both Fs9 and FSX. As to the paint its available to all TVA members. Check out the CG forum at Transload, link to the texture is in the thread TVACG Epic (payware) paint Realeased. As to the Pilatus i have a TVA one for the flight1 model both sims. Sean Dorn did a great job on the paints. I have a feeling the Stallin C123 USCG will be added also.

Alain_F355
October 6th, 2008, 12:41
Thanks for the repaints. It is a nice mix of military and civil users worldwide.

I posted a fix for the high reference speeds a while back. Turns out the numbers I used were to slow. These ones fit the speeds in the menu screen:
[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=80.000000
full_flaps_stall_speed=70.000000
cruise_speed=170.000
max_indicated_speed=240
max_mach=0.362828

There was a fix for the vc night lighting posted here when the plane was just released. It was lost in the server crash but I kept a copy:
[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
// class long lat vert effect
light.0=3, 2.2, -53.5, 8.3, fx_navred ,
light.1=3, 2.2, 53.5, 8.3, fx_navgre ,
light.3=1, -40.2, 0.0, 27.0, fx_beacon ,
light.4=1, -4.7, 0.0, -5.4, fx_beacon ,
light.5=4, 24.40, -0.00, 4.45, fx_vclight ,
light.6=4, -2.10, -1.50, 1.75, fx_vclight ,
light.7=4, 17.10, 4.50, 1.75, fx_vclight ,
light.8=4, -2.10, 1.50, 1.75, fx_vclight ,
light.9=4, -1.10, -1.50, 0.8, fx_vclight ,
light.10=4, -1.10, 1.50, 0.8, fx_vclight ,

dogknot
October 6th, 2008, 14:06
Thanks for those cfg adjustments. Much appreciated!

SteveB
October 7th, 2008, 06:15
Another thanks for the cfg entries. :applause:
I have been playing with a scheme that I dont even know if existed, I just wondered how it would look :d
No Idea on tail code letters so any suggetions appreciated.
Still got alot to do with this one, if theres any interest I'll finnish up and upload.

Steve

sbp
October 7th, 2008, 08:08
Steve, just remembered the SEA C-123 Sp Ops call-sign. Think it was "Raven"........spamnacan. :jump:

rpjkw
October 7th, 2008, 08:17
Steve, a HUGE thank you for the SEA C-123B Sp Ops. :applause::applause::applause: What impressed me most is all the detail. I have other black repaints for other Acft, but there's very little detail. You did an OUTSTANDING job.:applause::applause::applause:

Bob

pfflyers
October 7th, 2008, 10:29
Steve, on that latest screenie - The USAF tended to make "AIR FORCE" two words when they stecilled on their airplanes. Sorry to sound picky, but I think if you look close at pics of planes from the fifties I think you will agree.

Thanks for the great repaints. I've got them all so far. Love them!

SteveB
October 7th, 2008, 11:16
Fixed it thanks, still looking for tail codes for a US based unit?

Steve

dogknot
October 7th, 2008, 12:39
SteveB, these may help you choose a number.

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/AirForce/Aircraft/C-123Provider.html

http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/C123%20Photographs.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/C-123-2.jpg

C-123K of the VNAF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C123.jpg

How bout one of the stand-ins for the movie ConAir. It has a manufacturer's serial number: 20245. This makes it ex 56-4361, also an ex 439thTAW C-123K.
http://www.oldwings.nl/content/con_air/con_air.htm

http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=exact&CISOFIELD1=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOROOT=all&CISOBOX1=Transport%20planes
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/cdmg11&CISOPTR=7303&REC=26&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=1440&DMHEIGHT=2000

SteveB
October 7th, 2008, 14:21
Good suggestion mate, I looked for a 439thTAW insignia but failed to find one so I placed the Mil Airlift Command patch.

SteveB
October 7th, 2008, 14:40
I would like too have a go at 0-63495 C123J USAF Kulis Air National Guard Base, Anchorage, Alaska 6/08 from http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/C123%20Photographs.htm
But I need help with the tail patch and wording above it on the tail.

Steve

SteveB
October 7th, 2008, 16:16
Nearly done on this one.

SteveB
October 8th, 2008, 10:56
And I am still working on a dirty bare metal scheme.

dogknot
October 8th, 2008, 12:14
And I am still working on a dirty bare metal scheme.

Oh yeah! Love my gals dirty! :applause:

SteveB
October 8th, 2008, 13:10
Still experimenting with her mate :d.

ianhind
October 8th, 2008, 13:23
Steve

Some more piccies of 64395

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1035256/

http://www.ruudleeuw.com/alaska95.htm#c123-kulis

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Fairchild-C-123J-Provider/0796710/M/

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/192161.html

No idea what the tail badge is - anyone from Alaska recognise it?
It does not seem to be from the 144th TAS which was the Alaska ANG it operated with.

Ian

ianhind
October 8th, 2008, 13:38
And 439 TAW patch in here:

http://www.tacpatches.com/TAC%20Airlift%20Wings-94-463.htm

And displayed on a C-123K in 5th picture

http://www.prk-aviation.nl/Fairchild%20C123.htm

Crusader
October 8th, 2008, 14:38
Anyone found a set of black props that work on this bird ?

SteveB
October 8th, 2008, 20:14
Not looked yet mate, here's an update on the old metal scheme though :d
I will be doing a couple of bare metal schemes, this one is a patched and grotty one.

SteveB
October 8th, 2008, 20:15
And 439 TAW patch in here:

http://www.tacpatches.com/TAC%20Airlift%20Wings-94-463.htm

And displayed on a C-123K in 5th picture

http://www.prk-aviation.nl/Fairchild%20C123.htm

Thanks mate I'll swap the insignia's over now.

SteveB
October 9th, 2008, 07:49
Here are a few more bare metal schemes I have been playing with, as well as adding a bit more detail too parts of the aircraft. As for the Alaskan Air Guard, I have sent an email to the photographer too see if he can help.

Steve

SteveB
October 10th, 2008, 07:22
I have just uploaded N87TD bare metal scheme. I will be finnishing up on a few bare metal schemes over the weekend and upload them as and when done.

dogknot
October 10th, 2008, 10:34
I noticed that 64395 went through a couple minor paint changes over the years.

The earlier photos are pre-guard and has "Alaskan Air Command" on the fuse, then after the early/mid 70's, went to "Alaska Air Guard"....in addition to some minor color changes (and prob. tail insignia).

Just thought it was neat to note the subtleties.

SteveB
October 10th, 2008, 11:05
I noticed that 64395 went through a couple minor paint changes over the years.

The earlier photos are pre-guard and has "Alaskan Air Command" on the fuse, then after the early/mid 70's, went to "Alaska Air Guard"....in addition to some minor color changes (and prob. tail insignia).

Just thought it was neat to note the subtleties.


The photo's I have seen are only of the Gate Guard at Kulis. where it is painted grey, I have found the tail insignia and have restarted work on it:d

SteveB
October 10th, 2008, 15:50
Infact I have a couple of Alaskan schemes :d

CG_1976
October 10th, 2008, 16:14
Classic look Scheme. Looks like another winner.:ernae::applause:

Quicksand
October 10th, 2008, 16:17
:medals::applause::ernae:

dogknot
October 10th, 2008, 16:22
I agree!! They look great! :applause: :applause:

SteveB
October 10th, 2008, 16:58
I have just uploaded the first Alaskan Air Guard scheme, the grey scheme will be another day. I'm going to be finnishing off another bare metal scheme next.

Steve

Mick
October 11th, 2008, 15:29
Hmmmm, how about this one...???

Silver, da-glo trim, and note the SAC sash.

SteveB
October 11th, 2008, 15:33
Hmmmm, how about this one...???

Silver, da-glo trim, and note the SAC sash.

No worries Mick I have an Unassigned bare metal USAF that will do nicely:d

Steve

Thunderbolt
October 12th, 2008, 02:26
Awesome work, nice :medals:

modelr
October 12th, 2008, 04:55
How bout one of the stand-ins for the movie ConAir. It has a manufacturer's serial number: 20245. This makes it ex 56-4361, also an ex 439thTAW C-123K.
http://www.oldwings.nl/content/con_air/con_air.htm




For those who don't know, but want it/them, Heather Sherman did the paints for "Jail Bird" and "Large Marge" N709RR , the aircraft used for the flying scenes in ConAir. They are both available at Avsim. c123lm.zip and c123jb.zip

Very nice work, Steve. Appreciate your paints very much.

stansdds
October 12th, 2008, 10:08
How about a method of adding cargo weight to this bird? A web search for doing so directed me to the archives here, but they are now gone.

dogknot
October 12th, 2008, 12:27
How about a method of adding cargo weight to this bird? A web search for doing so directed me to the archives here, but they are now gone.

nothing scientific to these numbers, but I use them to get some weight. Change or add to the below section in the aircraft.cfg


[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
empty_weight=27542 // Empty weight of aircraft DOW (lbs)
reference_datum_position=0,0,0 // (feet) distance from FS Reference: (1/4
chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position=0,0,0 // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance
from specified datum
max_number_of_stations=4 //50 // Payload weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)

station_load.0 = 190.0, 16.0, -2.0, 0.8, Pilot
station_load.1 = 190.0, 16.0, 2.0, 0.8, Co-pilot
station_load.2 = 0.0, -5.0, 0.0, -6.0, Payload1
station_load.3 = 0.0, -15.0, 0.0, -6.0, Payload2

stansdds
October 12th, 2008, 12:39
Thanks!

Mick
October 12th, 2008, 14:53
No worries Mick I have an Unassigned bare metal USAF that will do nicely:d

Steve

Great!

Looks like the drop tanks might be da-glo too...

And it probably had the SAC badge on the sash on the other side. Wasn't that how it went - just the sash on the port side, sash with insignia on the starboard side...???

SteveB
October 12th, 2008, 17:11
Great!

Looks like the drop tanks might be da-glo too...

And it probably had the SAC badge on the sash on the other side. Wasn't that how it went - just the sash on the port side, sash with insignia on the starboard side...???

Stalin has no idea about such things, I will have to get onto the intel guys too find out :costumes:

Mick
October 13th, 2008, 07:31
Stalin has no idea about such things, I will have to get onto the intel guys too find out :costumes:

OK, I did some quick research.

The SAC sash, when present, went on the port side, with the unit badge on the starboard.

Sometimes there were no badges on either side, just the sash, and that seems to be the way it was on this C-123.

tk421
October 14th, 2008, 08:09
Hi all:

I am having to cruise this bird at 170 KIAS to prevent flying with a nose high attitude. The readme file say it's cruise speed is 170 MPH. When I fly it straight and level at that speed (149 KIAS) the nose is too high. I'm trying it now with an edit to the aircraft.cfg file in the [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] section to read as follows:

empty_weight_CG_position=10,0,0

This nearly levels it out. Anyone else notice this condition, or toy with a fix for it? (Made this change early in a long cross-country flight, so haven't tried to land or taxi it since. Don't know how much those procedures will be effected.)

I'm really enjoying these aircraft and repaints. My thanks to the talented folks who created them, and to those who suggested the fixes in this thread!

SteveB
October 14th, 2008, 13:40
Fictional civil register scheme, and a bare metal USAF will be uploaded shortly.

SteveB
October 14th, 2008, 14:10
Just uploaded them both, and heres a piccie of the USAF bare metal scheme, I will be working on the SAC over the next few days.

Steve

Mick
October 15th, 2008, 16:58
... I will be working on the SAC over the next few days.
Steve

A correction to my earlier note, where I wrote that the SAC sash, when present. went on the port side...

The sash was on both sides. What I meant was that the SAC emblem went on the left and the unit (usually wing) badge went on the right, both superimposed on the sash.

But you probably knew what I meant...

So this bird apparently had just the sash on both sides, and no emblems.

SteveB
October 16th, 2008, 13:28
I have just about finnished up on this USAF scheme, it will be uploaded later on.

Quicksand
October 16th, 2008, 13:29
:medals::applause::ernae:

SteveB
October 16th, 2008, 14:13
Just uploaded the USAF SEA scheme. It will show up once admins done it's thing.

Steve

campbell
October 16th, 2008, 14:34
Get job Steve!

SteveB
October 16th, 2008, 16:08
I got this one nearly done as well.

CG_1976
October 16th, 2008, 16:12
Now thats pretty. Might have to fly around S.America and get into trouble.:costumes:

SteveB
October 16th, 2008, 18:01
I have just got this one finnished, it's from the 606 SOS 56 SOW, Nakhon Phanom RTNAB, 1970. I will upload it in a few mins then i'm off too bed as it's 0300 hrs here and I need me beauty sleep :d .

SteveB
October 16th, 2008, 18:47
Both paints have now appeared for download. Douglas must be a bloomin insomniac :d.

stansdds
October 17th, 2008, 03:02
This has really renewed my interest in this aircraft. I've given mine some cfg changes and modded the cockpit instruments to suit my tastes and get rid of all the duplicate instruments. Seems the only major issue remaining is that the landing lights are not visible when in the virtual cockpit. I kind of doubt that I'll be able to fix that one.

Trans_1007, I was thinking the same thing. Between this and the Convair 240 from CalClassics with the Freight Dog paint scheme, some serious flying could be done. Now where's my copy of Steve Stills' song "Tree Top Flier"? :ernae:

SteveB
October 17th, 2008, 08:36
Next up will be another South Vietnamese scheme. It will be uploaded this evening.

Steve

SteveB
October 17th, 2008, 10:14
Vietnamese has been uploaded, and i'll be working on this one tonight.

SteveB
October 17th, 2008, 16:13
My bad I got distracted by another one, still got too add all the arabic script and the scheme is fictional, I haven't seen a cammo scheme on a Saudi Provider and wondered how it might of looked.

MattJeo11
October 17th, 2008, 18:35
Here's a shot I took recentally of Air Heritage Museum's C-123K "Thunder Pig" 57988

SteveB
October 17th, 2008, 18:37
It's getting there, I scrounged up a copy of the Saudi arabic titles off Andy Knott :ernae:. Just got too get the aircraft numbers done, and it will be about finished.

bingo31
October 18th, 2008, 07:44
Steve,thank you for your beautiful skins.

Do you have the Squadron Signal n 124:"C-123 Provider in action"?
P 37 you may find the VC-123K (serial 56-4375) used by General Westmoreland.The upper fuselage is painted white the same way that the screenshot you have posted on october 7th,16h15.

Please,where is it possible to find the B version of the C-123 (the one without jet pods)?I'm only able to find the K version (with jet pods).Your screenshots often are C-123B.

Jean aka bingo31

ianhind
October 18th, 2008, 09:35
Flightsim.com

C123ZHV3.ZIP and C-123B.ZIP

The second file updates the jet version.

bingo31
October 18th, 2008, 10:43
Thanks ianhind.Get it (C-123B).

SteveB
October 19th, 2008, 02:11
I have just uploaded the Saudi scheme.

SteveB
October 20th, 2008, 08:26
Steve,thank you for your beautiful skins.

Do you have the Squadron Signal n 124:"C-123 Provider in action"?
P 37 you may find the VC-123K (serial 56-4375) used by General Westmoreland.The upper fuselage is painted white the same way that the screenshot you have posted on october 7th,16h15.

Please,where is it possible to find the B version of the C-123 (the one without jet pods)?I'm only able to find the K version (with jet pods).Your screenshots often are C-123B.

Jean aka bingo31


I have the White Whale about done, but am struggeling to identify the insignia on the tail above the aircraft serials. I am also part way through a blackspot cammo paint ( page 47), I have a Laos which i will be uploading in the next 24 hours. after these three I will be moving on to another model.

Steve

Quicksand
October 20th, 2008, 08:42
Steve, my hat is off to you for doing these paints. :medals::medals::medals::medals:

bingo31
October 20th, 2008, 11:05
Thanks again Steve.

You may find a profile of a Royal Saudi Air Force C-123B on the central page of the C-123 Provider in action:NMF with white upper fuselage,green lines,red fuel tanks....

Some photos of the White Whale:http://www.vc-123.org

Jean

pfflyers
October 20th, 2008, 21:10
Steve-

Thanks so much for your repaints. This fine model spent too long in the back of my hanger. Since you brought out your paintbrush you've given it a new life.

SteveB
October 21st, 2008, 11:33
I was away when the model got released in 2006 only found it about a month ago :redface: :redf:.
It has been a good oportunity too play with my South East Asia cammo's and Bare metals. Stalin has been turning in his closet, with me painting up so many USAF schemes. So I will be doing some North Vietnames MiG's for my next project.

Steve

SteveB
October 21st, 2008, 13:03
Thanks again Steve.

You may find a profile of a Royal Saudi Air Force C-123B on the central page of the C-123 Provider in action:NMF with white upper fuselage,green lines,red fuel tanks....

Some photos of the White Whale:http://www.vc-123.org

Jean


Nice link, but no piccies of the tail , I have sent a couple of emails off to try and find out which insignia is on the tail. But if anyone reading this has any info it will be greatly appreciated.

Steve

SteveB
October 21st, 2008, 13:32
Oh yes I forgot about the SAC paint, bin havin probs with the sash but almost got it done as well.

doublecool
October 21st, 2008, 14:01
Great Stuff Steve, I've been flyin the paint off her so we needed more :costumes:

SteveB
October 22nd, 2008, 13:49
I got a little bit carried away today and ended up with a 315th SOW, paint.

SteveB
October 22nd, 2008, 18:22
It's changed a bit since earlier, just a cuople of minor tweaks left to do and i'll upload it sometime tommorow.

SteveB
October 22nd, 2008, 19:51
Here is another distraction. I know the naples should be on the rudder but there is a mirror texture problem on the rudder so i placed it on the tail. It's now 0500 hrs and i'm off too bed.

CG_1976
October 22nd, 2008, 19:53
Classic:applause::applause:

SteveB
October 23rd, 2008, 08:10
Update on the Coast Guard scheme, just got the wings and a couple of edges too sort on it now.

SteveB
October 23rd, 2008, 19:01
The couple of minor tweaks turned into a bit of an overhaul. And I have also completed the USCG scheme. Both will be uploaded in the next few hours.

SteveB
October 24th, 2008, 06:17
Both now uploaded. The 315th SOW paint is already showing, The USCG paint will show up later on.

Steve

SteveB
October 25th, 2008, 01:26
I take it your getting bored with the provider now, not seen any screenies of later releases by anyone so I'll call it a day and move onto me MiGs.

p3aewguy
October 25th, 2008, 18:09
Steve,

Just got the 123 installed and sorted out. Thanks for the repaints! I hope you'll put the VIP one and the SAC one out also! I've been flying this all afternoon (after tweaking the air file a little to suit myself). Here are a few screenies! Your effort is greatly appreciated. I even D/L'ed the paint kit you posted so I may try some my self.

Dave

SteveB
October 25th, 2008, 20:46
I have been redoing all the panel lines and details on the provider, I will be finnishing of a few schemes befor moving on. And if you want an updated paintkit drop me an email addy to the address in the readme's and i'll send a link.

CG_1976
October 25th, 2008, 20:58
Castro is looking for one of these. Can Stallin Aide this req?

SteveB
October 26th, 2008, 04:49
Sorry mate I dont have any P47's installed.

Steve

SteveB
October 26th, 2008, 07:21
This one is about done, I will upload it later today.

Quicksand
October 26th, 2008, 07:49
Beautiful, Steve. Your paints are very much appreciated...:medals::applause::ernae:

CG_1976
October 26th, 2008, 19:41
Another nice USCG paint for the hanger. Flies great and real fluid. Thank You Steve
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x311/thobin76/2008-10-26_2-0-17-703.jpg

SteveB
October 26th, 2008, 20:20
This one has got a bit dirtier as the evening progressed and now has insignia applied.

CG_1976
October 26th, 2008, 20:24
I like that camo paint, but alast i fly around the caribbean and need well you know DAAFAR camo scheme:d

SteveB
October 26th, 2008, 22:07
Heres an update on the White Whale paint.

SteveB
October 27th, 2008, 10:05
Here's another piccie of the white whale, I should get this one finnished in the next few days.

SteveB
October 27th, 2008, 13:10
The latest USAF and VNAF have just been uploaded, and heres a piccie of the VNAF scheme.

bingo31
October 28th, 2008, 00:21
Thanks again Steve.A lot of C-123s now.:applause:Waiting for the White Whale!!

SteveB
October 28th, 2008, 07:10
I've been playing with a new SEA cammo scheme over night.

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 06:07
Nearly done. Spent last night finishing off the new SEA cammo scheme. just a couple of minor tweeks left to do should get this one uploaded tonight.

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 07:06
Still at it, I see...

I've been busy too.

I've done an Air Force Reserve bird at two stages of its career, first in silver paint, then the same plane some years later in overall Aircraft Gray (aka "ADC Gray.") I think that overall Aircraft Gray livery makes any plane look good.

I've also re-done my Air America textures that I first released right after the C-123 was released. Those were OK, but they weren't reflective and the looked like silver paint, not bare metal. In those days I didn't know how to enable reflective textures in a model that didn't come that way. The new version is reflective. Alas, by using the alpha channel for reflectivity, I could no longer use it to make the wing tanks disappear, and it seems that AA never used the wing tanks. The polished metal look is worth it, though.

I've also done that SAC bird in reflective natural metal, a natural metal TAC assault transport, and an air assault tanker in a nice white and silver paint livery with orange and black trim.

I thought I was gong to start packing them up for release today, but at the last minute I thought of a way to enhance the bare metal schemes, so I'm starting them over, partly. It's that delightful task of changing the base colors without changing the markings on top pf them. Thank goodness for layers...

Might be able to release this evening, but another day or two is probably more realistic.

Here are the ones that are finished (I think. I hope...)

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 07:06
These are the ones that I'm working to improve:

pfflyers
October 29th, 2008, 07:35
Looking good Mick!

Can't wait to fly them.

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 07:46
Stalin escaped from his box and look what happened.
Nice schemes Mick, look forward to getting something I haven't painted myself too fly in.

Steve

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 11:53
This one will be uploaded later on tonight.

CG_1976
October 29th, 2008, 12:20
I'll for sure download Stallins Beauties. Does stallin want to help out castro with a order of a c-123.

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 13:01
Of couse Stalin will asist his carribean comrades.

p3aewguy
October 29th, 2008, 14:01
Steve and Mick,

Thanks to both of you! Looking forward to these repaints also!

Dave

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 14:09
Basic cammo colours knicked from a cuban MiG :d.

CG_1976
October 29th, 2008, 15:34
Beautiful Castro likes:d

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 16:11
I've played with it a bit more, and I have updated my USCG paint too latest detail level.

SteveB
October 29th, 2008, 17:10
The VNAF paint has appeared and I have just uploaded the Royal Laos Air Force paint.

Flyboy208
October 29th, 2008, 17:21
Steve, you sure are "on a mission" with all of these skins, and we appreciate it Mate! Mike :applause:

Lazerbeak
October 29th, 2008, 17:39
These are beautiful paints! Excellent works!

I wonder, since both sides of Viet Nam are represented, what about both sides of Laos? Will Stalin help comrade Choummaly Sayasone with a C-123 for the Lao People's Liberation Army Air Force? :d

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 18:35
OK, this here one just went up the pipe.

Air America converted their C-123Bs to Ks, so this paint is right for both versions.

I painted this plane way back when Vlad first released it, but in those days I didn't know how to enable reflections in a model, so the repaint looked more like silver paint than bare metal.

Now it looks like shiny natural metal, but since the alpha channel now controls reflections, I could no longer use it to disappear the wing tanks, which AA apparently never used.

I like the shiny finish enough to accept the drop tanks.

CG_1976
October 29th, 2008, 18:45
ah something i can chase with a stallin special:d useing fsrecorder.Looks great mick and looking foreward to release.

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 19:06
'Nother one just went up.

This is an Air Force Reserve bird in the overall Aircraft Gray (aka "ADC Gray") livery it wore at the end of its service life. When it was painted the rudder and elevators were left silver.

Later I'll be uploading another paint of the same plane with the same markings over an overall silver paint livery. The photos I worked from were taken from the exact same angle and at a glance they look like two copies of one shot. Closer examination shows that in one picture the plane is painted silver, and the background in the flight line of an active Air Force Base. In the other picture the plane's painted Aircraft Gray except for the tail feathers, and the background shows the bone yard, with stripped out hulks standing in the sand.

I've always liked that overall Aircraft Gray livery. I think it makes any plane look its best.

Here's a screenie of the repaint and a copy of the photo.

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 20:12
Here's the same plane at an earlier stage of its career, wearing silver paint overall.

The pics show the real one and the repaint.

Compare the photo to the one of the same plane in the bone yard with the Aircraft Gray livery.

Mick
October 29th, 2008, 20:24
One more for tonight, the air assault tanker.

As usual, a screenie of the repaint and a photo of the original.

Two more cooking, might be ready tomorrow.

PeteHam
October 29th, 2008, 23:48
My thanks to Steve for the civilian cargo paints :applause:

Flying northeast of Yellowknife on another delivery.

Pete.

SteveB
October 30th, 2008, 04:29
These are beautiful paints! Excellent works!

I wonder, since both sides of Viet Nam are represented, what about both sides of Laos? Will Stalin help comrade Choummaly Sayasone with a C-123 for the Lao People's Liberation Army Air Force? :d

Following this logic your gonna want a Kampuchea scheme as well :costumes:

Will get both Laos 1975 and Cambodian 1976 befor i have done.

Steve

SteveB
October 30th, 2008, 08:42
I was working on my grubby patched up bare metal scheme and I thought Pol Pot all of a sudden.

Mick
October 30th, 2008, 10:08
Just uploaded the SAC livery.

Here's a photo of the real one and a screenie of the repaint.

Mick
October 30th, 2008, 14:32
TAC bird going up as I type this.

This is my last C-123 paint; I'm out of references and out of ideas.

Here's the photo of the original and the screenie of the repaint.

Mick
October 30th, 2008, 14:49
Just made up a Smoke effects section with alternate entries for all the various things we have effects for that we can drop out of planes like the C-123. Boxes crates, paratroopers, smoke jumpers, flares, slurry, even pigs!

Most of them came with various other planes, but some of them came with the C-123, as you can tell from their file names.

I'll bet most of us have pretty near all of these in our effects folders.

[SMOKESYSTEM]

//smoke.0=0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_C123box.fx // Box (no chute)

smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_C123pig.fx // Pig

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_JFM_Para_G // Paratroopers 1

//smoke.1,-10.86,-5.28, fx_JFM_Para_D // Paratroopers 2

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_fallsw2.fx // SmokeJumper1

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, ffx_ab_smokejumper // SmokeJumper2

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_Cargo.fx // 1 Large Crate

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_Cargo2.fx // 4 Med Crates

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_Cargo1.fx // 8 Small Crates

//smoke.0=0.00, 10.00, 1.00, fx_slurry_30 // Slurry
//smoke.1=0.00, 10.00, 2.00, fx_slurry_30
//smoke.2=0.00, -25.00, 1.00, fx_liquid_red

//smoke.0,-10.86,-5.28, fx_flare // Flares

//smoke.0=0.00, -0.70, 1.40, fx_smoke_w // Agent Orange
//smoke.1=0.00, -0.70, 2.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.2=0.00, -0.70, 5.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.3=0.00, -0.70, 6.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.4=0.00, -0.70, 9.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.5=0.00, -0.70, 10.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.6=0.00, -0.70, 13.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.7=0.00, -0.70, 14.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.8=0.00, -0.70, 17.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.9=0.00, -0.70, 18.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.10=0.00, -0.70, 21.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.11=0.00, -0.70, 22.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.12=0.00, -0.70, -1.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.13=0.00, -0.70, -2.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.14=0.00, -0.70, -5.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.15=0.00, -0.70, -6.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.16=0.00, -0.70, -9.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.17=0.00, -0.70, -10.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.18=0.00, -0.70, -13.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.19=0.00, -0.70, -14.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.20=0.00, -0.70, -17.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.21=0.00, -0.70, -18.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.22=0.00, -0.70, -21.40, fx_smoke_w
//smoke.23=0.00, -0.70, -22.40, fx_smoke_w

CG_1976
October 30th, 2008, 14:52
Mine throw crates, So were do i get the paratrooper effect?

SteveB
October 30th, 2008, 15:41
My thanks to Steve for the civilian cargo paints :applause:

Flying northeast of Yellowknife on another delivery.

Pete.

I'm in the middle of updating the white Civil paint, If you want a copy of the latest version, drop me a line to the addy in the readme's, It's going to be a week or so until I upload any updates, I still have a few schemes to finish up on first.


Steve

SteveB
October 30th, 2008, 16:56
Here's a piccie of the updated civil scheme.

CG_1976
October 30th, 2008, 17:54
Castro had his hands full. He was being stalked by the USCG off MUGM NAS.

Mick
October 30th, 2008, 18:05
[quote=Trans_1007;25670]Mine throw crates, So were do i get the paratrooper effect?[/quote

My effects came from everywhere, and I can't begin to recall where I got any particular one.

Most came with various planes but some were released by themselves.

At least one of my paratrooper effects is sized and located for a Ju.52, so maybe it came with that great Ju.52 by Oscar Fischer, but I'm not sure. I seem to recall some smoke jumper effects coming with either models or paints of borate bombers, perhaps a DHC-6 Twotter...???

If you go to FlightSim and search FS2004 Misc section for "effect" you'll come up with some good stuff. Also search the FS2002 Misc section.

One paratrooper file is named para.zip It's a rectangular chute.

Two others at FlightSim are 82ab-fx.zip and 82abd-fx.zip by Heather Sherman; they're round chutes paratroopers in green camo uniforms and desert camo uniforms.

Also by Heather at FlightSim is smkjmp.zip, which is smoke jumpers, just what we need for the firefighting paint.

Look around the download sites and you'll find stuff to push out of that rear ramp...

Sunny9850
October 30th, 2008, 18:37
One question on the C-123 is if it is at all possible to get a truly polished finshed with this latest version.
I have been trying every trick that I am aware off and it just isn't happening.
I know that Heather made a polished repaint on an earlier version, but maybe something has been changed on the current versions model that makes that impossible.

PeteHam
October 30th, 2008, 19:18
I'm in the middle of updating the white Civil paint, If you want a copy of the latest version, drop me a line to the addy in the readme's, It's going to be a week or so until I upload any updates, I still have a few schemes to finish up on first.


Steve

Thanks Steve, but I'm happy to wait till it is uploaded.
:ernae:
Pete.

SteveB
October 31st, 2008, 15:09
Royal Thai Air Force, cammo scheme.

Mick
October 31st, 2008, 16:30
One question on the C-123 is if it is at all possible to get a truly polished finish with this latest version...

It's not the paints and it's not the model, it's FS9.

One particular file, envmap.bmp, determines how reflections look in the sim, and with the stock one they don't look very reflective at all. More than several replacement envmap.bmp files have been released, either packaged with other scenery tidbits or as stand-alone items.

Banana Bob Rivera recently released one that produces an almost mirror finish on most reflective textures. I found that it made some of my older reflective paints look too mirror-like, so I went with another one. I can't recall which one...

Go to the big sites like AvSim and FlightSim and search the libraries for envmap.bmp and you'll find several to experiment with. Which one looks best will depend on things like your graphics card and your personal preferences. Try several and you're bound to get one you like.

BTW, my SAC and TAC C-123 paints are highly reflective in my sim with the enhanced envmap file I'm using, and I don't think they'd be very reflective at all with the stock FS9 file.

SteveB
October 31st, 2008, 16:47
I've been redoing the cammo this evening.

p3aewguy
October 31st, 2008, 17:16
Looking good Steve!

Dave

Sunny9850
October 31st, 2008, 22:51
It's not the paints and it's not the model, it's FS9.

One particular file, envmap.bmp, determines how reflections look in the sim, and with the stock one they don't look very reflective at all. More than several replacement envmap.bmp files have been released, either packaged with other scenery tidbits or as stand-alone items.

Banana Bob Rivera recently released one that produces an almost mirror finish on most reflective textures. I found that it made some of my older reflective paints look too mirror-like, so I went with another one. I can't recall which one...

Go to the big sites like AvSim and FlightSim and search the libraries for envmap.bmp and you'll find several to experiment with. Which one looks best will depend on things like your graphics card and your personal preferences. Try several and you're bound to get one you like.

BTW, my SAC and TAC C-123 paints are highly reflective in my sim with the enhanced envmap file I'm using, and I don't think they'd be very reflective at all with the stock FS9 file.

Hi Mick,

thanks for the reply. I am aware of the basic function of the envmap.bmp and I have reflections on quite a few repaints...including some of my own creations.
But with the latest version of the C-123 when I apply the usual grey scale alpha layer which is what normally generates the "chrome" effect the texture becomes more and more transparent.

A solid black alpha layer which is what generates normally a perfectly polished finish without any trace of texture left on this model removes the outer skin entirely and you are left with all the interior in plain sight.

Since for example the recently metioned L-10A Electra in TransCanada Colors shows up nice and polished I am positive that it's not my card, the settings or the envmap.bmp file.

Just for kicks however I have tried a couple different envmap versions and the result is the same.
I am pretty sure that this is in fact something that has to be planned for in the 3D modeling phase of the airplane...or the texturing.
I am not sure which since I have never or not yet dabbled in that part of the hobby.

I have also tried this in FSRepaint, shich handles the reflection a bit differently and get the same result.

Can you let me know where to find your SAC or TAC repaints so I can possibly take a look if they will work for me as well ???

Thanks
Stefan

jungle_balloo
November 1st, 2008, 02:27
Hi Steve, your work is great.

My english is very bad and I find it hard to understand everything.

For me, the roundel of the C-123 Royal Thai Air Force has not the right colors.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg/75px-Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg)


congratulations :applause: :applause: :applause:

SteveB
November 1st, 2008, 04:08
Hi Mick,

thanks for the reply. I am aware of the basic function of the envmap.bmp and I have reflections on quite a few repaints...including some of my own creations.
But with the latest version of the C-123 when I apply the usual grey scale alpha layer which is what normally generates the "chrome" effect the texture becomes more and more transparent.

A solid black alpha layer which is what generates normally a perfectly polished finish without any trace of texture left on this model removes the outer skin entirely and you are left with all the interior in plain sight.

Since for example the recently metioned L-10A Electra in TransCanada Colors shows up nice and polished I am positive that it's not my card, the settings or the envmap.bmp file.

Just for kicks however I have tried a couple different envmap versions and the result is the same.
I am pretty sure that this is in fact something that has to be planned for in the 3D modeling phase of the airplane...or the texturing.
I am not sure which since I have never or not yet dabbled in that part of the hobby.

I have also tried this in FSRepaint, shich handles the reflection a bit differently and get the same result.

Can you let me know where to find your SAC or TAC repaints so I can possibly take a look if they will work for me as well ???

Thanks
Stefan


Here you go this will get you Micks Repaints. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileUploadName=Mick

SteveB
November 1st, 2008, 05:16
Hi Steve, your work is great.

My english is very bad and I find it hard to understand everything.


For me, the roundel of the C-123 Royal Thai Air Force has not the right colors.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg/75px-Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roundel_of_the_Royal_Thai_Air_Force.svg)





congratulations :applause: :applause: :applause:







I have resized and made the colours slightly darker on the national insignia's, but dirt and weathering will alter the colours slightly.

Steve

SteveB
November 1st, 2008, 08:26
I have just uploaded the RTAF paint. It should show up in a bit once Douglas has doner his thing.

Steve

It's showing already, That there Douglas is quick today :)

SteveB
November 1st, 2008, 12:19
Philippine Air Force 1979, will be next up.

SteveB
November 1st, 2008, 15:04
Then it will be another fictional "under new managment" scheme.

Lazerbeak
November 1st, 2008, 17:54
Then it will be another fictional "under new managment" scheme.
Super! This will be just perfect for exploring Lao PDR!

Also, not totally fictional, since LPLAAF did use some ex-RLAF C-123 for a time after the war.

Sunny9850
November 1st, 2008, 17:56
Here you go this will get you Micks Repaints. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileUploadName=Mick

Thanks Steve, I did not even think to look in the download section.

Stefan

Flyboy208
November 1st, 2008, 18:12
Steve, I really love the USAF Black Ops livery, allows me to slip in low-level into East Berlin un-detected by the STASI in able to do a supply drop for the oppressed.

Cheers! Mike :ernae:

Sunny9850
November 1st, 2008, 23:49
The reflection is based somewhere in the model as I had thought.
If you want to try for yourself apply the TAC or SAC textures to the
model with the jet assist engines....AA or FAV for example.

And you will see that the fuselage will become transparent...which is a neat effect :costumes:
On the model without the jet assist pods (model folder was part of the SAC and TAC paint zips) my own repaint shows up nice and shiny as well.

Cheers
Stefan

SteveB
November 2nd, 2008, 07:49
Philippine Air Force scheme just uploaded.
As for the model shine, out of the box the C123K comes with both matt finnish and high gloss finnish, if you want the paint too appear on the the High Gloss then make sure your aircraft config entry has model= (leave blank). If you want the non shine finnish make model=US on the aircraft config.

Steve

Mick
November 2nd, 2008, 07:49
Hi Mick,

...But with the latest version of the C-123 when I apply the usual grey scale alpha layer which is what normally generates the "chrome" effect the texture becomes more and more transparent...

Stefan

You must be using Vlad's original model file, which does not have reflections enabled.

You can make a reflective model with Ivan Hsu's "Shine" program, or with Jeff D's "Shiny," which is Ivan's "Shine" with a Window's interface. (The original "Shine" is a DOS command line program.) Both "Shine" and "Shiny" are available in the library here at SOH.

Or you could download my SAC or TAC paints and use the reflective model that's packaged with them.

(I also made a model with specular shine; if you need that you can get it with my AFRES Gray paint.)

Mick
November 2nd, 2008, 07:54
Philippine Air Force scheme just uploaded.
As for the model shine, out of the box the C123K comes with both matt finnish and high gloss finnish, if you want the paint too appear on the the High Gloss then make sure your aircraft config entry has model= (leave blank). If you want the non shine finnish make model=US on the aircraft config.

Steve

Ah ha!!!

I've been wondering whether there was any difference between the two K model files! I'd somehow not noticed that one is glossy and the other is flat. I went and made a glossy (or was it flat?) copy when I already had one!

I thought the two model files must account for some difference like the presence of absence of some aerial, or something like that. It never dawned on me that the difference might be the finish of the plane in the sim. Not too swift, since I've been making different copies of the model for exactly that purpose...

SteveB
November 2nd, 2008, 08:01
Ah ha!!!

I've been wondering whether there was any difference between the two K model files! I'd somehow not noticed that one is glossy and the other is flat. I went and made a glossy (or was it flat?) copy when I already had one!

I thought the two model files must account for some difference like the presence of absence of some aerial, or something like that. It never dawned on me that the difference might be the finish of the plane in the sim. Not too swift, since I've been making different copies of the model for exactly that purpose...


I dont think I have an origional model left in my C123 folder lol, I changed the non gloss finnish to a satin finnish for the cammo schemes using the shiney util and I tried to tone down the full gloss model down a notch as well. :d

But out of the box from Vlad the easiest way to tell the difference is barrels in the back= gloss, Jeep in the back= matt.

Steve

SteveB
November 2nd, 2008, 08:08
Super! This will be just perfect for exploring Lao PDR!

Also, not totally fictional, since LPLAAF did use some ex-RLAF C-123 for a time after the war.

I totaly agree but piccies are very rare of post US involvment, so if I label it semi fictional it makes more sense than saying it's a Guestimation :d

pfflyers
November 2nd, 2008, 08:34
There is another difference between the "US" and basic K models. The "US" model displays the Willys Jeep (willis.bmp) as cargo while the basic K has the pallet of barrels (tank.bmp) cargo.

SteveB
November 3rd, 2008, 07:22
LPLAAF, VPAF and Kampuchean schemes have now been uploaded.

SteveB
November 3rd, 2008, 15:11
The last of my USAF SEA cammo paints is just about done.

Sunny9850
November 3rd, 2008, 18:25
You must be using Vlad's original model file, which does not have reflections enabled.

You can make a reflective model with Ivan Hsu's "Shine" program, or with Jeff D's "Shiny," which is Ivan's "Shine" with a Window's interface. (The original "Shine" is a DOS command line program.) Both "Shine" and "Shiny" are available in the library here at SOH.

Or you could download my SAC or TAC paints and use the reflective model that's packaged with them.

(I also made a model with specular shine; if you need that you can get it with my AFRES Gray paint.)

Hi Mick,

I got your SAC and TAC repaints and they do work ...but I have a strange black panel behind the gauges in the VC with the model.br
Do you get that as well or am I missing something else ???

I tried a Google search for the Shiny program you mentioned but it returned way too many results to comb through.

Do you have a link by any chance to the program with the Windows interface ???

Thanks for any help in advance.

Stefan

Mick
November 4th, 2008, 07:57
Hi Mick,

I got your SAC and TAC repaints and they do work ...but I have a strange black panel behind the gages in the VC with the model.br
Do you get that as well or am I missing something else ???

I tried a Google search for the Shiny program you mentioned but it returned way too many results to comb through.

Do you have a link by any chance to the program with the Windows interface ???

Thanks for any help in advance.

Stefan

I don't get a black panel behind the gages, I get a shiny panel behind them. It can't be helped, as far as I know. It seems to be an effect of making a model reflective that wasn't built that way. This doesn't happen at all on some models; on some models it puts the reflective panel in front of the gages, making the VC completely un-usable. On this model it's sort of in between. There may be a way to fix it, but if so, I don't know how.

Odd that the effect is different in your system and mine. I suppose that might have something to do with different video cards...?

I took a flight in one of the reflective paints and found the effect annoying, but less so than I expected. Still, the reflective paints might end up being used mainly in the AI role, where they are already decorating a few bases in my Flight Simulator 1954 - A Half Century of Flight AI scheme.

I don't have a direct link, but you can find "Shiny" right here at SOH, in the FS2004 Utilities section.

SteveB
November 4th, 2008, 08:42
International Narcotics Control Mission, Peru 1987.

Sunny9850
November 4th, 2008, 14:06
Thanks Mick,

I'll search for it here then. The even more odd thing is that my pal in NZ using the same model doesn't get any black boxes with that same model.

I will play around with it some and see what happens. I'll probably switch back to the non reflective as well for non-AI use.

CG_1976
November 7th, 2008, 00:29
Here's some Pics for Stallin of the Cuban DAAFAR stealing beer from Chicago KORD. Hum wonder what happened to the Homeland defense??????? I had to reinstall FS9 afterall it now has its own new HD just like my FSX. Now i really can enjoy both sims in harmoney and even more with Steveb's paints. Now I just have to track down all of stallins and steves cuban paints as all the ones i have are in dds format.

SteveB
November 7th, 2008, 02:25
I will be uploading two poss three more provider paints throughout today, I have been busy the past few days working up some North Vietnamese MiG 21's for an online group, I still have a couple of South American schemes and the white whale too finnish off on the provider and these will be done over the next week or so.

Steve

SteveB
November 7th, 2008, 14:02
I have just finnished uploading two paints, the International Narcotics Control Mission scheme pictured on a previous post, and the last of my USAF south east asia cammo schemes.

doublecool
November 7th, 2008, 14:55
Steve, love the paints...
Quick question I only have one model...is there two?:redf:

jungle_balloo
November 7th, 2008, 15:49
Hi, Steve

Super, Super. :ernae:

Question: the MiG-21, a new repaint?

SteveB
November 7th, 2008, 16:20
Hi, Steve

Super, Super. :ernae:

Question: the MiG-21, a new repaint?

Yes I am working on some North Vietnamese MiG 21 paints for a group of online flyers, who fly vietnam era missions.

bingo31
November 7th, 2008, 23:21
Steve,

Is the White Whale posted,I can't find it?

Thanks again for all your Provider skins :applause:

bingo31
November 7th, 2008, 23:26
Steve,

I just read your post:White Whale is coming soon :mixedsmi:

SteveB
November 9th, 2008, 05:43
Steve, love the paints...
Quick question I only have one model...is there two?:redf:


There are two models released by vlad, There is the C123K (jato) and the C123B (non jato).

Steve

Moses03
November 9th, 2008, 15:46
Steve & Mick- Thanks for all the great paints. Had to start with the red civil scheme. :)

(Tweaked a Bananabob prop disk in favor of the original one).

Moses

PeteHam
November 9th, 2008, 17:33
I like the new prop textures Moses.

Which one did you use ?

Thanks,

Pete.

Mick
November 10th, 2008, 03:32
There are two models released by vlad, There is the C123K (jato) and the C123B (non jato).

Steve

And at least one of them is up to version 3. (Assuming I haven't missed an update; maybe it's higher by now...)

Moses03
November 10th, 2008, 09:39
I like the new prop textures Moses.

Which one did you use ?

Thanks,



Pete- I used the one Bob did for the Donationware Dauntless. Increased the size and intensity of the alpha channel.

CG_1976
December 15th, 2008, 16:04
Basic cammo colours knicked from a cuban MiG :d.
Steve I cant find the cuban C123 in the SOH Lib. Could you please up her to the lib please.:applause:

gonzonm
December 16th, 2008, 02:32
Has anyone tried to paint his An-26 yet? It's another wonderful plane that could use some new paint.

SteveB
December 16th, 2008, 04:35
Has anyone tried to paint his An-26 yet? It's another wonderful plane that could use some new paint.

Bin there done that. look in the library.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileUploadName=SteveB&pap=1&ammm=75

Steve

SteveB
December 16th, 2008, 04:37
Steve I cant find the cuban C123 in the SOH Lib. Could you please up her to the lib please.:applause:

will do mate, I'm just in the middle of installin everything on me new comp so give me a couple of days and i'll be back to as normal as it gets.


Steve

CG_1976
December 16th, 2008, 07:24
Thank you, I know the feeling of what your going thru comp wise. I just redd mine complete. Sort a winter cleaning.

SteveB
December 16th, 2008, 07:37
Just replaced my old rig with a new quad core, the hard drive was full on the old one so needed replacing:icon_lol:

gonzonm
December 16th, 2008, 12:29
Thanks.:icon_lol: I don't know how i miss some of this stuff when it first comes out.