What is your favorite helicopter?

[rdaniell]

Mine is the JF Schweizer 300i. I have the Army's TH-55 paint scheme on mine in honor and memory of all the brave young warrant officers and officers who lost their lives in Vietnam. Anyway that's my favorite helicopter. What's yours?

RD

[Navy Chief]

Have to say the Virtavia Sea King is my favorite. :encouragement: NC

[Francois]

UH-1D Huey...... whoever makes it :-):applause:

[Butcherbird17]

+1 on the Virtavia Sea King. I picked this up during the last 50% off sale and have been flying ever since.
And for those who like AI helo's, keep an eye over at Avsim library today as John Young has released his Blackhawk/Jayhawk package for both fs9 and fsx.

Joe

[Shylock]

Vietnam Era Hueys

[roger-wilco-66]

What Francois said:-)

[spatialpro]

It depends what is meant by the question...



What is your favorite helicopter IRL?


or



What is your favorite FSX native helicopter?


My answer to the former is the SA341 Sud Aviation/Aérospatiale/Westland Gazelle

My answer to the latter is the AS350 Aérospatiale/Eurocopter Écureuil (Squirrel, or A-Star if you're in NA) by Nemeth Bros.

Others close to the top IRL include Whirlwind, Wessex, Lynx (HAS3 & AH7), Skeeter, Dragonfly, Sycamore and of course Wasp/Scout, but none of these exist in fully FSX native and fully published (the Alphasim Whirlwind was originally FS9 and Rick Piper's Sycamore was never finished).

[Navy Chief]

Vietnam Era Hueys

Great screenshot!:encouragement:

[Wayland]

I've got to go with the Nemeth EC135 in NWMedstar markings. I've a soft spot for that bird ever since I got a 45 minute ride from Ferry County Memorial to Sacred Heart Trauma Center in Spokane in it.

Steve

[Ferry_vO]

Big helicopters, as I generally gind those easier to fly. The Virtavia Sea king, CH/MH-53's, the nemeth Skycrane (Bit harder to fly though!). The Virtavia Apache Longbow is great for doing aerobatics in a helo.

[DaveB]

Almost impossible to pick a favourite. I have all Nemeth releases, all Milviz releases, all Cera releases and a shed load of what Virtavia have kicked out over the years. I have that 300i too and while I like to look at it, I hate flying it!!
Current fave is probably this one..
http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/thumb-410BL.jpg
.. cause I've just finished painting it:biggrin-new: The Virtavia Sea king actually sounds like a Sea King too.

As I said above though.. I can't put hand on heart and say which of them is my favourite. They all get flown from time to time (except the 300i) and I usually enjoy the flight.
ATB
DaveB:)

[YoYo]

http://yoyosims.pl/sites/default/files/Obrazki/FSX/md530f/md530f_82.jpg

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/UH-60L%20and%20SH-60B%20and%20UH-60X/UH-60_19_zps02ba1e01.jpg~original

[dhazelgrove]

25922

25923

25924

The JYAI Hawks have launched.

Dave

[Alan_A]

No votes for the Dodosim Bell 206? Still my favorite FSX helicopter by a large margin. A shame their Huey never made it to market.

[CG_1976]

My favorite is MIA from FSX, the USCG MH65C Dolphin.

[SkippyBing]

Alan, the Dodo Sim Bell 206 is my favourite! I use it refresh myself on the start up and emergency drills for the real thing, plus it flies like a helicopter. Bit worrying how often I crash it really, probably shouldn't tell my passengers...

[Alan_A]

Bit worrying how often I crash it really, probably shouldn't tell my passengers...

Well, they say the sim is harder than real flying...

But yes, better not to share!

[Boomer]

I also have all the FSX native helos out. I like all of them for various reasons but if I had to pick a single one it would be the Cera 212.

http://flyawaysimulation.com/images/downloadshots/5765-bell212-northwestzip-5-212-004.jpg

[roger-wilco-66]

I also really like Piglets (Tim Conrad) Loach!


Cheers,
Mark

[CaptainMal]

Perhaps those of you who are proficient at flying helicopters might be willing to help a forum newbie learn to fly helicopters. It's something I would love to learn, but have not progressed an iota since FS2000. I use Saitek X52 and X52 pro if that helps. System: i7 quad core processor at 3.00GHz, 24gb ram, 4gb video card.

Douglas
Forum newbie and 1st time poster

[DaveB]

Hi Douglas:wavey:

A good place for a newbie to look would be here.. http://www.hovercontrol.com/

As you'd imagine by the name, everything there is helicopter related;) If I remember right, you'll find some tutorials there as well as helicopters and paints to download plus a whole pile of other stuff.
ATB
DaveB:)

[hairyspin]

Hum, not a helo flyer myself, but I'm looking forward to euroastar's Bell 222 models since I've been following their progress.

[rdaniell]

Well, this is shaping up to be a good thread. I personally don't think the JF S-300i is all that hard to fly. It just requires constant flying. One of the things on my "bucket list" is to get a couple hours dual time in a 300. Middle Georgia College runs a helicopter flight training program up at the Eastman, Georgia, airport. No way can I afford to ever solo it much less get my rotary wing endorsement but, I just would like to say that I could fly it unassisted by the instructor.(Well, maybe, he or she would not have to keep their hands continually on the collective or cyclic.)

Like some other things on my list, this might still be there when my wife cleans out my things after I'm dead. Hey! A fellow can still dream.

RD

[jankees]

I don't like helicopters in fsx, but I have fond memories of a real life flight I took visiting the Bungle Bungle in a Bell 47..

[Ferry_vO]

Perhaps those of you who are proficient at flying helicopters might be willing to help a forum newbie learn to fly helicopters.

Small corrections, be gentle with the stick would be my first tip.

[CaptainMal]

Hi Douglas:wavey:

A good place for a newbie to look would be here.. http://www.hovercontrol.com/

As you'd imagine by the name, everything there is helicopter related;) If I remember right, you'll find some tutorials there as well as helicopters and paints to download plus a whole pile of other stuff.
ATB
DaveB:)


Thanks for the tip Dave. Just went and had a quick look at the site. Think I'll be spending many hours there.

And, in keeping with the topic, my favourite helicopter to crash is the Virtavia EH-101 Merlin.

Douglas

[Dimus]

http://yoyosims.pl/sites/default/files/Obrazki/FSX/md530f/md530f_82.jpg

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/UH-60L%20and%20SH-60B%20and%20UH-60X/UH-60_19_zps02ba1e01.jpg~original

I second that Yo-Yo! I never liked helicopters and I kinda avoid them in real life too. Never trusted the things, too much of a forced way to be airborne. However. after having the pleasure to beta test the Milviz 530 I grew much fond of it and now fly it very often in FSX and P3D.

[DaveB]

Hum, not a helo flyer myself, but I'm looking forward to euroastar's Bell 222 models since I've been following their progress.

Eurostar's Jet Rangers are nice if you fancy something not default. You get long legs, short legs and floats in the pack too:encouragement:

Re the Cera 212.. I like the model but prefer the 412 flight model.

Remembered the Alabeo R66Turbine and Area51 Apache lurking on my HD too. The R66 is a great model to look at but unremarkable to fly and unrealistic according to one RW pilot who reviewed it. The Area51 Apache flies well but has a horrible main rotor effect and the maps make it look like it was made in 1810 (over done panel lines). Both still get flown infrequently.

Re the 300i.. I find trying to hover it accurately akin to trying to balance a marble perfectly still in the bottom of a glass bowl while riding a monocycle:biggrin-new:

The Simshed Wessex has a fair flight model but being FS9.. it suffers slightly odd glass and see-thru rotors in FSX. It's one I always have installed though.

Oooh.. so many models.. so little time to fly them all!!
ATB
DaveB:)

[WarHorse47]

I tend to enjoy those local to my area..

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Random%20FSX%2008/2013-12-16_20-6-25-790_zpsbda17bf1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Random%20FSX%2010/2014-4-9_10-27-14-457_zps228eebb6.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Random%20FSX%2005/2013-8-23_18-51-0-616_zpsbe007358.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Random%20FSX%2009/2014-2-17_10-42-44-347_zpscf269b9b.jpg

[Anthin]

Huey hands down.

Anthin.

[JimmyRFR]

I used to think either the Dodo 206 or the Cera 212, perhaps followed by the MV 407 or the Virtavia Sea King. However, as far as helicopters go nowadays, I'm squarely a XP convert, were the Dreamfoil R22 is easily my favorite.

[patful]

My earliest memory is sitting in the back of my dad's HH-43 when I was three. No others come close. Not sure if one's been built for FSX.

[Blackbird686]

I only have a few installed but of all of them... I'd have to say that the Nemeth Designs Mil-24 "Hind" is my favorite. It has a very immersive cockpit and is a stunning visual model. Took me forever to learn the switching procedure to get the engines lit. It's an interesting bird, with a face only it's mother could love. Besides, the Mil-24 really can't fly, just that it's so ugly the earth repels it.

BB686:US-flag:

[ST0RM]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25923&stc=1


Is that HH-60G flyable or AI only?

-Jeff

[ejoiner]

Have to say the Virtavia Sea King is my favorite. :encouragement: NC

Yup!

:)

Eric

[griphos]

I've tried a LOT of FSX choppers. I haven't tried the Milviz 407 or M500, but I've tried lots of others. There's only one good FSX chopper....Dodo's Jet Ranger. The Aerosoft Huey is a distant second. The rest are kind of a joke. FSX has terrible helicopter flight dynamics.

My favorite chopper is the DCS Huey.

[falcon409]

I also really like Piglets (Tim Conrad) Loach!
Cheers, Mark
Same here Mark. I found a book called "low Level Hell" by Capt. Hugh Mills. He flew the Little Bird for several tours in Nam and wrote the book on tactics, as up to that point there was none. Amazing read and Tim's Chopper is a blast to fly "Low Level".

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/ejwells409/loach.jpg

[trucker17]

UH1 for me

[b52bob]

K-max but no one has made one yet. Wip I think.

[Ferry_vO]

A very nice but underrated helicopter is this good old Virtavia Kaman Seasprite:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202015-07-31%2022-53-04-70_zpsnb8joh0e.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202015-07-31%2022-53-04-70_zpsnb8joh0e.jpg.html)

:encouragement:

[sketchy]

Virtavia Sea King....

...if only I could get it to fly... the protection software did something strange on my rig and it constantly "pauses" the sim for me in FSX and P3D :(

[Tranquil]

Mine too is the Virtavia Seaking :) Its also my Favorite in the non-sim world!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25972&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25973&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25974&stc=1

Much thanks!

[DaveSHQ]

Area51's AH-1F

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i239/DavidT_photo/Facebook/Cover%20Photos/1399304_338597062952110_1139164167_o.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/DavidT_photo/media/Facebook/Cover%20Photos/1399304_338597062952110_1139164167_o.jpg.html)

[Wizard]

The SH-2F. There was one for FS-9 and then someone (I can't recall who) did a RNZN (Royal New Zealand Navy) repaint (both are freeware). I combined the two and tweaked the .air and .cfg files and it is the most nimble sweetest little helicopter capable of carrying two MK-46 torpedoes and 25 sonobuoys. While the SH-60 is the one I fly most often (in FSX) I love the SH-2F both in real life and in FSX. So much capability in such a small aircraft. :adoration:

[DaveSHQ]

I believe the OP referred to FSX helicopters. List company and a screenshot people!!! :)

[DaveB]

One I'd love to recommend would be the FSHeliCh Alouette II. I've always liked the real thing and the model isn't bad though I've seen better freeware (now especially). Soundset is ok too. What really lets it down is the crew.. very FS8 if not before:(

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/xr3792.JPG

ATB
DaveB:)

[roger-wilco-66]

Same here Mark. I found a book called "low Level Hell" by Capt. Hugh Mills. He flew the Little Bird for several tours in Nam and wrote the book on tactics, as up to that point there was none. Amazing read and Tim's Chopper is a blast to fly "Low Level".

[...]



That's a very good read, Ed. I think I consumed it three times. Another very stunning book about loach operations is Tom Smith's "Easy Target".


Cheers (also to Tim Conrad for giving us his fine artwork),
Mark

[Sundog]

FOR FSX, I've always enjoyed the Alphasim Seasprite. I would like a newer AH-1, will definitely need an S-97, and wish someone would make us a Mojave.

I don't fly them as often as I would like due to my flight controls, Saitek X45, but the helo-trim function makes them much more enjoyable to fly.

[Penz]

I like the stock Robinson, it's nice and easy to fly. :)

[PRB]

Besides the Virtavia Seasprite, this is one of my favorites. Piasecki H-21C, by Mick Posch. Freeware, came out in 2007, so it's "old" but has a great VC. And it looks cool.

[Naismith]

I generally avoid helicopters but when I do I like Rick Piper's Bristol Sycamore best. It is a pity he never completed it as it is a Beta.

[kdfw]

to upgrade fsx helicopter flight models, try the htr module by Fred Naar.

cera's uh60 is one of the best models out there.


http://youtu.be/GxKO20NeQSw

[airattackimages]

^ that was a fun little flight! Does the Cera UH-60 work in multiplayer now?

I know there are no perfect FSX helicopter FDEs, but I love the way the Cera 60 flies. Does anyone know comparatively speaking, how the Milviz MD530 flies in light of it? That could be my next purchase.

[ST0RM]

Does the Cera UH-60 work in multiplayer now?

Nope. They gave up on trying to fix it. Lost a few customers over that.

-Jef

[DaveB]

I think it's fair to say that the Milviz 530 flies completely differently. One is light and agile.. the other is borderline 'heavy'.. as are the real ones. I wouldn't be put off by that though. The 530 is a fine model even though it's not my favourite RW helicopter.;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[Dumonceau]

My favourite, but the one from Area51.

http://www.bellhelicopter.com/MungoBlobs/173/436/AH-1Z_850x-0167.jpg

Johan

[airattackimages]

I think it's fair to say that the Milviz 530 flies completely differently. One is light and agile.. the other is borderline 'heavy'.. as are the real ones. I wouldn't be put off by that though. The 530 is a fine model even though it's not my favourite RW helicopter.;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Well yeah :p I guess what I should have said how believable is the flight model... Because the Cera UH-60 is one of the more believable ones I have flown..

[DaveB]

It's a difficult one to answer. Much depends on what you want out of a flight model and how your rig is setup. Is it believable.. I don't know. I like the flight model. It goes exactly where you want it to go and it sounds the part while you're doing it. There's a quick start option but you can run it up 'by the book' should you wish. It really has a lot going for it. One thing though.. on my rig, I often get a 'BEX' error on shutting the sim down after I've flown it. Trying to track down exactly what this is like finding the answer to the universe! I've not seen anyone else report this so I guess it's something unique to my rig.

I have my realism sliders backed off and it flies 'how I like' it to fly. Crank em up and I'm sure it would get livelier. It flies how I would expect one to fly but that doesn't mean a great deal;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[Wild Bill Kelso]

...I like Rick Piper's Bristol Sycamore best.

Thanks for mentioning this gem!
Still my first choice for exploring new sceneries along with the Bell 47 by Jean-Marie Mermaz.

Cheers,
Markus.

[rezn550]

to upgrade fsx helicopter flight models, try the htr module by Fred Naar.

cera's uh60 is one of the best models out there.


http://youtu.be/GxKO20NeQSw

love the scenery in the vid.... very fitting

[kdfw]

love the scenery in the vid.... very fitting

yes, the farm textures are quite nice for adding to the sense of speed at low altitude.

ok, some dangerous flying here


http://youtu.be/JkXialCsAXA

[airattackimages]

It's a difficult one to answer. Much depends on what you want out of a flight model and how your rig is setup. Is it believable.. I don't know. I like the flight model. It goes exactly where you want it to go and it sounds the part while you're doing it. There's a quick start option but you can run it up 'by the book' should you wish. It really has a lot going for it. One thing though.. on my rig, I often get a 'BEX' error on shutting the sim down after I've flown it. Trying to track down exactly what this is like finding the answer to the universe! I've not seen anyone else report this so I guess it's something unique to my rig.

I have my realism sliders backed off and it flies 'how I like' it to fly. Crank em up and I'm sure it would get livelier. It flies how I would expect one to fly but that doesn't mean a great deal;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Thanks Dave! How is it on frames in comparison to the 60?

Last question I promise :o lol

[airattackimages]

yes, the farm textures are quite nice for adding to the sense of speed at low altitude.

ok, some dangerous flying here


http://youtu.be/JkXialCsAXA

Can you fill me in on what method you're using to get the 60 to work in a replay? Can send a PM if you prefer...

[DaveB]

Thanks Dave! How is it on frames in comparison to the 60?


I don't think there's a great deal of difference mate.. both it and the 60 run fine on my i5. One that does give a noticeable hit is the MV407. Looking at it.. it seems to be no more than a 206 with 2 extra blades.. certainly nothing visible to pull at FR's so it must be the whole unit being more resource hungry. Compare it to the MV/ND Wokka.. you'd think the Wokka, with all it's lumps, bumps and twin rotors would be heavier on frames not better but the Wokka is better.
Anywho.. I think it's safe to assume a slightly higher resource overhead with MV products than with comparable dev's products.. good or bad. In the words of Bruce Hornsby.. That's just the way it is;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[Victory103]

As kdfw mentioned and has show in his vids, the Cera H-60 is a winner. Out of the box the FDE is off, with HTR most of the issues are corrected given the limitations in FSX. I have many of the payware models out, but my "go-to" model for a quick flight to check AI or scenery is the freeware ERS B206 make over.

[Hanimichal]

Nope. They gave up on trying to fix it. Lost a few customers over that.

-Jef

watch this guy flying in VATSIM with friends all time in this heli without problems!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtLzno7HLzjlq0dgx5sqatA

[kdfw]

Can you fill me in on what method you're using to get the 60 to work in a replay? Can send a PM if you prefer...

instructions are in the video description of the uh60x2 youtube video.

[SeanTK]

My top three in FSX:

Nemeth Mi-24V
Cera Bell 212
Virtavia/Alphasim AS365 Dauphin

The Nemeth model is realistic from a systems perspective, and it looks great - which makes it very enjoyable for me. There are a few bugs that will never be fixed, but I can live with them. As with most addon helicotpers though, the flight dynamics could be better.

The Cera 212 is also great from a systems and visual perspective, and gets about equal flying time from me when compared with the Hind.

I have a personal connection to the AS365 so despite some dated visuals, it's a solid model and I use it extensively as well. I believe that Cera Simulations is back in action and is beginning to progress on their Dauphin, but I believe they are making a "long-nose" model. Here's hoping for a short-nose.

I would also highly recommend Helicopter Total Realism (HTR) available on Hovercontrol to improve the flying properties (flight dynamics) of many helicopters!


Honorable mention to the Area51 Simulations OH-58 Kiowa Warrior, specifically with the flight dynamics update on Hovercontrol. Very enjoyable to fly, and with more convincing dynamics too.


Having been behind the controls of a few different types in the real world, FSX helicopters are not nearly sensitive enough regarding control inputs to be realistic, nor do many have features like yaw from rotor momentum built in.

[napamule]

Sikorsky S-97 'Raider' prototype (based on their X-2 Demonstrator). Model (for FS9) by David Allen. The FDEs are NEW and made from scratch by me, Chuck B (Napamule).

Well this is really for FS9 but I tried it in FSX Accel. Didn't go back to flying it in FS9 although it flys just as good in FS9, if not better, than in FSX (if that's possible). Been at it for a week or so. This is the first video over 5 min I ever made (been at YouTube since 2006). Here is a 9:23 video of it in FSX Acceleration: http://youtu.be/ACM3NkYQ8_w .

Of course this helio is not 'real' and this only shows what can be done with FDEs and does not mean that the S-97 can do these 'tricks'. So it's just for fun.
Napamule

[ZsoltB]

The best:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26925&stc=1

[ST0RM]

watch this guy flying in VATSIM with friends all time in this heli without problems!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtLzno7HLzjlq0dgx5sqatA

Hani, true. It does work in M/P, but only if there aren't any other people in the Cerasim UH-60 on the server as well. It would cause server lockups and such. Nice vids though. And it's a great product, just not as thoroughly completed as their previous work.

-Jeff

[huub vink]

As I only have the default helicopters installed I assume this must be my favourite helicopter in FSX....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/20150731_1b_zpskk2egiz3.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/20150731_1b_zpskk2egiz3.jpg.html)

In FS2004 I used to the the Westland Wessex helicopters by the Simshed quite often,
but the one below was my absolute favourite!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/20150731_1a_zpstr1tud9h.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/20150731_1a_zpstr1tud9h.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Huub

[ian elliot]

The Simshed, Brian Franklin Wessex works pretty well out of the box in FSX, all animations seem to work and most of the gauges show without warnings, the rotor disk is a little dark perhaps but its better than some other port-over helos ive try'd,

cheers ian

[DaveB]

It's one I always keep installed too Ian:encouragement: Oh for an FSX native model!! Brian actually let a friend (who will remain nameless for fear of a full inbox) have the source code for it with a view to doing just that. I don't know what program Brian used to compile it but I think it involved a lot of masking tape and super-glue!! Needless to say.. the project didn't get very far.:( Still.. the old FS9 model will do for now;)

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveSHQ]

Area-51 OH-58

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i239/DavidT_photo/2014-12-17_8-38-20-191.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/DavidT_photo/media/2014-12-17_8-38-20-191.jpg.html)

[Naismith]

Clearly this aviatrix has an aversion to the Robinson :biggrin-new:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3201498/Woman-pilot-bidding-emulate-Amy-Johnson-hits-parked-helicopter.html

[jeansy]

My top three in FSX:

Nemeth Mi-24V


The Nemeth model is realistic from a systems perspective, and it looks great - which makes it very enjoyable for me. There are a few bugs that will never be fixed, but I can live with them. As with most addon helicotpers though, the flight dynamics could be better.



Apparently ND quit and shut shop earlier this yr, which explains why they havent been posting or providing support, and no longer providing some download links from their store

On another note MV bought back their models from ND and from Colin he's honouring MV models that were bought from the ND store with proof of purchase

[DaveB]

That's amazing customer service!! They release the Bk117 just before Christmas and bug reports start coming in. An explanation for the lack of support was 'they have a life and are on Christmas holiday'!!! The atmosphere over there was certainly getting heated with some customers demanding their money back. One emailed Tamas who replied saying 'what problems'?

There's nothing there to say they've folded Matt and the shop front is still active though as far as support is concerned.. the place has been closed pretty much since Christmas.
ATB
DaveB:)

[jeansy]

That's amazing customer service!! They release the Bk117 just before Christmas and bug reports start coming in. An explanation for the lack of support was 'they have a life and are on Christmas holiday'!!! The atmosphere over there was certainly getting heated with some customers demanding their money back. One emailed Tamas who replied saying 'what problems'?

There's nothing there to say they've folded Matt and the shop front is still active though as far as support is concerned.. the place has been closed pretty much since Christmas.
ATB
DaveB:)

Hey at the emd of the day i see it as its our fault, we all know how buggy the products are yet we still buy them

I was only informed today from a good source they quit, very piss poor that its been 8 months and no mention of this from them, just like thier forums if you say something negtive they hide the post and the probelem goes away they must be thinking if they dont say anything all the customers who require support will go away

Anyway on a brighter note, no more wasted money on a helicopters that backflip and crash and then get told thats how they fly in real life by helicopter trainee pilots

[DaveB]

Yes mate.. you're right on all counts. I wasn't going to buy another model after the EC350 but against my better judgement, I did so I've only myself to blame:banghead:

ATB
DaveB:)

[SeanTK]

Unfortunate but not surprising that they closed shop (though one would think that they would make an announcement). I know their support has been non-existent for at least the last year, and they made a lot of false promises even before that....(that or their support was incompetent since they were down to one non-technical person who happened to always be away on business trips).

Anyway, it sounds like Cera Simulations is allegedly back in action (looking forward to their Dauphin), and I also hope to see more helicopters from Milviz...though I do regret the 407 purchase since it only starts up in fair weather - no wind conditions. Haven't experienced that limitation with any other models. Still looks nice though.

Here's hoping to see more high-fidelity helicopters in the future. I know they're not popular, but hopefully we won't see the extinction of rotorary-wing development for FS/P3D.

[spatialpro]

Pity. If it weren't for the Nemeth brothers hard work in the past helicopters for MSFS may not have progressed as much as they have.