Erik Jones

[Panther_99FS]

That was refreshing! :jump:

[Terry]

Another Kyle Bush without the attitude. Good kid!

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

He may do all right if he can learn. Runnin outta gas and then not paying attention an hitting the wall - he'll either learn or he won't. It's not much help bein at Gibbs. Once Logano gotta outta there you got to see the real Logano. Record speaks for itself - 1 win at Gibbs in 4+ years 7 at Penske in a bit over two years. We will see about Erik. Judgement reserved.

If he's a real talent then he would be a Joey Logano - youngest winner in both xfinity and sprint cup - if he's a kyle bush well we all know how that goes.

It was a good race last night - love fuel economy races. As the announcers said lower hp different aero package favors drivers skilled at the delicate use of the right foot. Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick are two of the best at that so it makes sense for them to have won the last 7 mile and a half track races. Yes I get that there was a late caution but before that caution what was happening? Kevin took tires and gas Jimmie stayed out with enough gas and hoped two tires was a mistake as far enough back (Junior in between) and maybe a mismatch - guess what happened.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

EasyEd,
Gotta hand it to you - Leave it to you to be the only one that can throw out insults in what's meant to be a strictly complimentary thread... LoL!

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Insulted who? Facts are facts. Erik seems like a nice young kid with a good attitude who did a very forthright interview and I hope he does well.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

Insulted who? Facts are facts. Erik seems like a nice young kid with a good attitude who did a very forthright interview and I hope he does well.

-Ed-

Still waitin for ya' to entertain us with same volume & level of Danica facts...

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Don't know what you are talking about with Danica. She is still the only woman to have won a major series open wheel race and then turned around a sat on the pole at the Daytona 500. No amount of history twisting will ever erase those facts and facts are what you go by. That said I don't know about her future next year since Go daddy is leaving NASCAR. I don't think it is because of her record as she will still be on a contract to Go Daddy. Even if Go daddy were sponsoring Jimmie Johnson they would apparently be leaving. All that aside as well - I don't think SHR (thats Stewart Haas racing) is giving her and her crew chief the attention they need to win (like Logano and probably Erik at Gibbs). SHR now does not have the levelness they need for Danica to do well with - I suspect - the other drivers getting more attention/resources. I think the aero/HP package this year would favor her a bit but we will see. That said I like her as a driver and hope she gets a break and can keep driving.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

Don't know what you are talking about with Danica.
-Ed-

She is on a team with Hendrick power, as team mates, she has not one, not two, but THREE prior cup champions. No other driver has had this caliber of experience built around them that she has. These are the facts.
Thus with Hendrick power and the experience of THREE CUP CHAMPIONS to coach her, I expect nothing short of excellence.

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Not when the three cup champions are self absorbed. Think about it. I like Harvick as you know but a true team player - I don't think so. Bush and Stewart not even worth a comment as self evident. If I had my way Danica would be a third car at Penske. I think Brad Joey and Danica with Roger would be outstanding for Danica.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Harvick and Kurt are currently showing excellent team work!
There must have been a reason why ol Roger was in no rush to get her on his Indycar team too.

There are Cup drivers now that would kill to be in Danica's shoes right now and have Hendrick HP with 3 Champions to watch and learn from.

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Harvick and Busch - In your opinion which is exactly what it is. it ain't Busch winning on the 1.5 mile tracks...

Roger is regrettin that I suspect....

Other cup drivers need to earn it... Just my belief.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Been nice debating this with you Ed.....Once again as usual, you're right and I'm wrong...:wavey:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Well the season can go on an we'll see.

I do know and I really hope all is well and turns out well with you and yours.

-Ed-

PS And as you know it is always gonna be an "Ed" that is right!!:ernaehrung004:

[Panther_99FS]

Larry Mac on Erik...:mixed-smiley-010:
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/kyle-busch-erik-jones-joe-gibbs-racing-sprint-cup-series-kansas-speedway-051315

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Yeah he may do well - he certainly seems to have the right kind of character. We will see. I believe that the team you are associated with matters - alot. Lets take wonder boy Kyle Larson. He has run 50 or more races with Gnassi and has yet to see a top 15 finish. He may have the talent but I'm not convinced he is in a good place although he hasn't yet hit a track dryer. :applause: Now look at Ryan Blaney - drives for Keselowski and will likely come into the Penske fold - a really good place to be. Ditto Chase Elliot who will drive the 24 Hendrick car - another really good place to be. Note Elliot, Blaney NASCAR families so of course they are going to what are probably the premier teams. Look at the Dillon brothers - both drive for Richard and are his grandsons. Now they may not have the talent of Erik or Ryan or Chase but look at them - in a good place - rides secure thanks to Grandpa. NASCAR is family - that is how it is. I present Logano as evidence that where you are matters - see above stats.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

. I present Logano as evidence that where you are matters - see above stats.

-Ed-

Don't forget to add Harvick to the list too. No championship until he went to Haas.
And thus I rest my case with Danica (i.e.she is woefully underperforming given where she is at).

You are correct - where you are matters....Look at Harvick's stats (and look at how Kurt is benefitting from his situation with Harvick). :wavey:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Don't equate Stewart Haas with Hendrick. They are different.

Now Harvick.


From wiki... but basically right.
For 2001, Childress planned to run Harvick in the #2 Chevy in the Busch Series full-time again, while developing him into the Winston Cup Series (now Sprint Cup Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Cup_Series)) with up to seven races in the #30 AOL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL)-sponsored Chevy. He planned to race Harvick for a full schedule in 2002. The death of Dale Earnhardt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Earnhardt) on the last lap of the 2001 Daytona 500 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Daytona_500) changed Childress's plans, and Harvick began his first Sprint Cup race the following week in Rockingham at the Dura Lube 400. For Harvick's first two races, the car ran an inverted color scheme, the number changed from 3 to 29, and the pit crew wore generic uniforms. In the third race of the season, the car was painted white and red, while Harvick wore a white-and-red uniform. His pit crew continued to wear the traditional GM Goodwrench (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Goodwrench) Service Plus uniforms.

On March 11, 2001 at the Cracker Barrel Old Country Store 500 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Cracker_Barrel_Old_Country_Store_500), only three weeks after Earnhardt's death, Harvick won his first career Winston Cup victory in just his third start by narrowly edging Jeff Gordon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gordon) at Atlanta Motor Speedway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Motor_Speedway). He won the race by only six one-thousandths of a second (.006), proving to be one of the closest finishes in NASCAR history since the introduction of electronic scoring in 1993. After the win, Harvick performed a tire-smoking burnout on the front stretch. Remembering Dale Earnhardt, with three fingers held aloft outside the driver's window, he ran the track backwards as a show of honor and respect.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Harvick#cite_note-jockbio-3) Winning in his third career start, Harvick became the fastest driver to win his first Winston Cup race in the modern era, breaking the record set by Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Earnhardt,_Jr.) in 2000. That record was previously held by the elder Earnhardt.

He recorded his 2nd Cup win of his career at Chicagoland Speedway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicagoland_Speedway) in Joliet, Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet,_Illinois).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Harvick#cite_note-4) At the end of the season, he finished with 2 victories, 6 Top 5's, and 16 Top 10's. Harvick was awarded with the NASCAR Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_Rookie_of_the_Year) Award, and secured a 9th-place finish in the 2001 points standings. He also won the Busch Series championship, becoming the first driver to win the Busch Series championship while also driving full-time in the Winston Cup Series with a Top 10 finish. Harvick would end the season winning 6 pole positions, and driving in 69 races: 35 Cup Series, The Winston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_All-Star_Race), 33 Busch races, and 1 NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craftsman_Truck_Series) at Richmond International Raceway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_International_Raceway) for Rick Carelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Carelli).

Harvick stepped into some HUGE HUGE shoes and did one he!! of a job filling them as a rookie. When Dale crashed in turn 4 at Daytona it was for me the first time in my life I felt the hand of death. Sure my mother had passed, most of my grandparents had passed and yes I was crushed by that but Earnhardt - impossible. I felt it more deeply than I ever thought possible - cried like a baby - even while asking myself why? I saw the same phenomena at the death of Kennedy with my mother when I was young and other women at the death of Lady Di. I don't know what it is but it is real. How in the world could I watch NASCAR after that? Kevin Harvick doing what he did with all pressure to this day amazes me. I'm a Harvick fan even though I know fully well what an azz he can be and yes his performance slipped but I think the RCR cars slipped even more. He slipped into some mediocrity for awhile but I think now he is feeling the pressure of time and he is simply that good - his rookie year showed it. Oh and I used to live in Bakersfield.

Now I never said Danica is a born star but she is good and takes care of her equipment and I think it good that there is at least one woman driver. I think she needs a better CC and I think it possible she might win a race on strategy not "slicing and dicing" which I know she can do - I saw it in some open wheel - it just isn't her ordinary way. I'm not impressed by slicing and dicing anyway - it is not how you win championships - it is just another tool in the box - and not the strongest one.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Forgot to mention...
Kahne BARELY beat him in the trucks - but Kahne's truck failed post-race inspection....

[Panther_99FS]

He just finished 3rd XFinity @ Iowa...

[Panther_99FS]

Nice Truck win.....

[PRB]

He just won again (Xfinity)...

[Panther_99FS]

He just won again (Xfinity)...

Yup! :mixed-smiley-010:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

YUP! Amazing who can win when cup regulars take the weekend off.

-Ed-

[Roxane-21]

Amazing who can win when cup regulars take the weekend off.

Jones is not an Xfinity Series regular either...

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

YUP! Amazing who can win when cup regulars take the weekend off.

-Ed-

Obviously,
You missed this April's O'Reilly Auto Parts 300 where Erik Jones won the race beating out Keselowski, Dale Jr, & Denny Hamlin....

[Panther_99FS]

Jones is not an Xfinity Series regular either...

Roxane,
Don't mind that post by EasyEd - he's just trying to get under my skin again....:mixed-smiley-010:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

The point is simple - when cup regulars are running xfinity the chances of xfinity regulars winning goes down. Of course cup regulars don't win every xfinity race they are in but they win alot. The question becomes would Erik Jones have won if cup regulars were in the race in Chicago - maybe but we've no way to know. I have often wondered if Cup regular drivers should be allowed to drive Xfinity but then I do get the why - the money they likely bring in. Yes dear we will go to the Xfinity race cuz it costs way less than cup and you can still see your beloved Kyle Busch where he has a chance to win. :)

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

The point is simple - when cup regulars are running xfinity the chances of xfinity regulars winning goes down. Of course cup regulars don't win every xfinity race they are in but they win alot. The question becomes would Erik Jones have won if cup regulars were in the race in Chicago - maybe but we've no way to know. I have often wondered if Cup regular drivers should be allowed to drive Xfinity but then I do get the why - the money they likely bring in. Yes dear we will go to the Xfinity race cuz it costs way less than cup and you can still see your beloved Kyle Busch where he has a chance to win. :)

-Ed-


In case you skipped over a previous post of mine, I'll say it again below...:running:

Obviously,
You missed this April's O'Reilly Auto Parts 300 where Erik Jones won the race beating out Keselowski, Dale Jr, & Denny Hamlin....

1. (1) Erik Jones, Toyota, 200 laps, 143.2 rating, 0 points.
2. (2) Brad Keselowski, Ford, 200, 128.8, 0.
3. (5) Dale Earnhardt Jr., Chevrolet, 200, 121.5, 0.
4. (6) Regan Smith, Chevrolet, 200, 107.8, 40.
5. (3) Austin Dillon, Chevrolet, 200, 113.9, 0.
6. (8) Darrell Wallace Jr., Ford, 200, 107.2, 39.
7. (11) Denny Hamlin, Toyota, 200, 98.2, 0.
8. (9) Chase Elliott, Chevrolet, 200, 100, 36.
9. (10) Chris Buescher, Ford, 200, 91.4, 35.
10. (7) Brian Scott, Chevrolet, 200, 102.3, 35.

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

No I did not miss it. Nowhere have I said or implied in any way shape or form that if a cup racer is in an Xfinity race that he/she is guaranteed to win. Their presence changes the odds into their favor.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

No I did not miss it. Nowhere have I said or implied in any way shape or form that if a cup racer is in an Xfinity race that he/she is guaranteed to win. Their presence changes the odds into their favor.

-Ed-

I'm disappointed with your responses in this thread...(but they are typical for you)...
I would expect you of all people to at least give Jones some credit for beating Brad...

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Oh get real. You can read all the negative you want into what I say. But I have not said anything negative about him. If I want to be negative about him personally I would but I'm not and haven't been. He did good.

-Ed-

[Daveroo]

Hey All,

Oh get real. You can read all the negative you want into what I say. But I have not said anything negative about him. If I want to be negative about him personally I would but I'm not and haven't been. He did good.

-Ed-

oh PFFFFFFT......

oh wait....what did you say??


hehehe :biggrin-new:

[Panther_99FS]

Hey All,

Oh get real. You can read all the negative you want into what I say. But I have not said anything negative about him. If I want to be negative about him personally I would but I'm not and haven't been. He did good.

-Ed-

What I've discovered is that it's against your hard wired DNA to give out a comment to someone that's not "your driver" without inserting something negative or smart. In this case, I suppose it took this long for your "he did good" because Jones drives for Kyle Busch...

Oh, and your negative in this case is your remark about who can win when the Cup regulars aren't racing - instead of just a clean "good win" without the other stuff.

[wombat666]

Nice to see that I can be away for six months or so and find EasyEd still blinkered and keeping up his 'Flat Earth Society' view of motor racing!
:banghead:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

P I been nothing but nice to Erik - in fact he has had to overcome enormous enormous obstacles to win what he has.

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

Great race tonight Erik!
Considering you experience, nothing to hang your head for!

[stansdds]

Yep! And very good Xfinity Series racing at Kentucky last night, looking forward to watching the Sprint Cup Series tonight!

[wombat666]

I know the reasons why 'Level 1' drivers run in several 'Junior League' series ($$$$$$ and bums on seats) but it sucks.
In fact it is just unsporting, not that 'sportsmanship' counts for much in this arena.
At least the Division 2 series in the V8 Supercars is for new blood or part time drivers, not for the top level runners.
:banghead:

[Terry]

I know the reasons why 'Level 1' drivers run in several 'Junior League' series ($$$$$$ and bums on seats) but it sucks.
In fact it is just unsporting, not that 'sportsmanship' counts for much in this arena.
At least the Division 2 series in the V8 Supercars is for new blood or part time drivers, not for the top level runners.
:banghead:

Speaking of V8 Supercars, hows Marcos doing? I heard he went back to racing.

[EasyEd]

Hey All,


I'm disappointed with your responses in this thread...(but they are typical for you)...
I would expect you of all people to at least give Jones some credit for beating Brad...


Great race tonight Erik!
Considering you experience, nothing to hang your head for!

Hmmm... I guess Brad is not one of P's drivers.

Nice drive Erik!

-Ed-

[Panther_99FS]

I guess Brad is not one of P's drivers.
-Ed-

No he is not.
But I do compliment - have you complimented Kyle?


Heckuva win by Brad - No doubt...Ya' only gotta lead one lap, and that's the last one...

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

I see one - compliment toward Brad covers all races he wins including last night. OK

Kyle ran well and won - good job by Kyle. Logano didn't find the high line till too late. All four Gibbs cars were in the top 5. Clearly Toyota has the superior car in NASCAR right now - hard to lose with that. Only the Fords from Penske are able to keep up.

We will see if Kyle makes the chase. He has 8 races to make up 87 points - no matter how many races he wins he still needs to be in the top 30.

-Ed-

[Roxane-21]

Clearly Toyota has the superior car in NASCAR right now - hard to lose with that. Only the Fords from Penske are able to keep up.
Look at the point standings. Only one Toyota in the top-10, and it is on 9th position... Chevys and Penske's Fords are still the best.

Gibbs' cars were deadly fast last night, but they are average overall.

[stansdds]

Good racing last night! Kyle and Brad really went at it during the final 20 laps. Both drivers raced clean, but hard and smart. The Kyle Bush saga is definitely interesting, he sure has a shot of getting into the top 30 in points and beating the odds.

AS for Toyota, all the other Toyota teams finished 18th or worse last night, All of Gibbs' cars were in the top 5. That tells me that either JGR figured out Kentucky and his teams communicate well with each other or all of his teams are using the same cheats. If they cheated, we will know very, very soon, but I think it is simply that JGR brought good cars and figured out the correct setup.

And for those who are whining about the possibility of all four JGR teams making the Chase, would they also whine if all four Hendricks teams made the Chase?

[PRB]

I can't believe I'm actually happy that Kyle Busch is winning races. What is this world coming too??

[Panther_99FS]

Look at the point standings. Only one Toyota in the top-10, and it is on 9th position... Chevys and Penske's Fords are still the best.

Gibbs' cars were deadly fast last night, but they are average overall.

Bingo!....

[Panther_99FS]

AS for Toyota, all the other Toyota teams finished 18th or worse last night, All of Gibbs' cars were in the top 5. That tells me that either JGR figured out Kentucky and his teams communicate well with each other or all of his teams are using the same cheats. If they cheated, we will know very, very soon, but I think it is simply that JGR brought good cars and figured out the correct setup.

And for those who are whining about the possibility of all four JGR teams making the Chase, would they also whine if all four Hendricks teams made the Chase?

No argument from me here...

[Panther_99FS]

What is this world coming too??

Yes what is this world coming to?

Not only did EasyEd actually give Kyle Busch a compliment but he also:
-Didn't say anything negative about F1
-Didn't say anything negative about IndyCar
-Didn't say anything negative about Montoya


I know, I'm pushing my luck though...:mixed-smiley-010:

[Terry]

Yes what is this world coming to?

Not only did EasyEd actually give Kyle Busch a compliment but he also:
-Didn't say anything negative about F1
-Didn't say anything negative about IndyCar
-Didn't say anything negative about Montoya


I know, I'm pushing my luck though...:mixed-smiley-010:



I don't like either Busch or Brad or F1 or Montoya!

Did I make your day? :a1310:

[Panther_99FS]

I don't like either Busch or Brad or F1 or Montoya!

Did I make your day? :a1310:

:biggrin-new::biggrin-new::very_drunk:

[stansdds]

I can't believe I'm actually happy that Kyle Busch is winning races. What is this world coming too??

Same here.

[Panther_99FS]

Congratulations Erik on your first road course win! :mixed-smiley-010:

[Terry]

Erik may surpass Kyle soon.