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jankees
April 6th, 2015, 07:13
I received a new model file from Milviz, and this one does work with alpha's!
So I have been working on some textures:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17121.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17121.jpg.html)

to see if I can get a differe3nce between metal, painted metal and matt paint like the antiglare panel:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17124.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17124.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17120.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17120.jpg.html)

and of course, camo paints are now an option:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17130.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17130.jpg.html)

any thoughts/comments?

Dumonceau
April 6th, 2015, 07:15
thoughts/comments? None, other than BRILLIANT!!! :D

Johan

DaveB
April 6th, 2015, 07:50
I'd have to second that:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

jankees
April 6th, 2015, 07:54
still work in progress though, here with different spec files:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17132.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17132.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17144.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17144.jpg.html)

I still need to apply the paint to the rear of the booms:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17137.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17137.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17138.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17138.jpg.html)

What do you think, better? Or do I need to try and make the metal stand out a bit more, for instance by giving it sharper reflections?
Or do I need to tone down the painted parts a bit?

Dumonceau
April 6th, 2015, 08:03
To me in your FSX install it looks like it should Jankees. I would have to take a look at it in my P3D install, as I don't fly FSX anymore!
I do hope that Milviz is going to release this for the modern sim as well!!

Cheers,

Johan

Alan_A
April 6th, 2015, 08:12
To me the textures in your second post look right - there's a clear difference among the flat-painted, painted metal and bare metal areas, but not so strong as to be exaggerated. I'm not sure that more shine on the bare metal would help, unless you're trying for that over-polished warbird-at-an-airshow look that you see on modern P-51s. But that show look never appealed to me, so maybe I'm just reflecting (so to speak) my own preferences...

glh
April 6th, 2015, 08:24
I will ditto Alan_A. Looks great !!!

gman5250
April 6th, 2015, 08:45
Beautiful work as always Jankees. I'll be looking forward to the model and the PK.

fsxar177
April 6th, 2015, 10:10
This looks like some of your best work!

One thing that stands out to me, is the Prop texture/animations.. Not sure I've seen that before. Does it look good in motion?

- Joseph

jim
April 6th, 2015, 10:12
Are these textures for the existing Milviz P38 or something new?

jankees
April 6th, 2015, 10:35
This for the not-yet-released Milviz P-38L.

and yes, those prop textures... to be honest, I don't think they look that good in motion, but hey, that's only my opinion...

Me, I'm only playing with the paintkit, and to wet your appetite of course!
And of course, most of the texture work was done by Milviz, we have to give credit where credit is due!

Bradburger
April 6th, 2015, 11:42
Top work there Jankees!

Looks even better now the alpha channels are active.

I hope Milviz include, or ask you to do some, if not all the schemes for their forthcoming release.

Cheers

Paul

Ian Warren
April 6th, 2015, 14:21
I really do like that first screen, emphasizing the structure and airframe, JK, you are the right choice to tinker in this field, SUPERB!

Chunk
April 6th, 2015, 15:02
I can't wait to get add this bird to my hangar. An outstanding job as usual Jankees!

Mach3DS
April 6th, 2015, 15:04
I love the different tones in the metal. I think the only place that you *could* give a little sharper reflection is in the very nose section...but that would be up to you. I think you've got the look pretty much nailed as is. well done again sir.

jankees
April 11th, 2015, 08:06
Back from my latest trip, and back to the P-38, still working on the painted areas..
Here's my latest attempt, now including the upper part of the booms and the radiators:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17166.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17166.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17162.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17162.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17163.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17163.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17160.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17160.jpg.html)

I'm not completely sure about the color of the paint, which for me is always difficult if I don't have any rgb codes, so any comments/suggestions?
Yes, there are still a few bits and pieces that need paint, this I know.

Bomber_12th
April 11th, 2015, 10:17
Jan Kees, I'm curious of the source of the information about the painted areas? I've never delved into the production details of the P-38 myself, and so I've been wondering why some of those skins in particular would have been painted silver. All of those gun bay and cowl panel assemblies had spot welding, since you have an inner stamped section spot-welded and riveted to the outer skin, to form the individual assemblies. Spot-welded assemblies had to go-together unpainted, with the metal skins acid-etched prior to the spot welding being done. Left bare, the acid-etched skins appear brighter and more dull than the untouched clad finishes of the original aluminum sheets, and during wartime production, it wouldn't have been out of the question to have simply left those assemblies bare metal. However, if they did take the time to primer the insides of the cowl and gun bay door assemblies, which could only happen after the spot-welding was completed on these assemblies, this would then explain the need to paint the outer skins on those assemblies silver, to cover the chromate zinc on the outer surfaces - "dull silver" paint/dope chosen simply to match the look of the bare metal as close as possible.

Other parts where spot welding was common were the fairings and fillets, where usually there would be formers that the fairing/fillet skins were spot-welded to, and some of the fairing/fillet skins were usually made from two halves that were welded together as well. These skins would also be acid-etched, appearing brighter and more dull compared to the untouched clad aluminum finishes. From the aluminum manufacturers themselves (Alcoa/Reynolds), aluminum sheets were provided in both shiny and dull clad finishes, which is another reason for panel variations.

Another item would be to darken the areas around the turbo chargers where the metal was stainless steel rather than aluminum. Something I haven't seen yet in these repaints is the oval mirrors on the inner cowls, facing the cockpit - those mirrors that were there so that the pilot could tell the positioning of the nose gear. Another nice thing to see added would be the "No Step" red-blocked markings on the top and bottom of the side windscreens.

Clearly in period photos, you can see the variations in finishes across the aircraft. In some photos, the gun bay doors and cowl panels appear bare metal, just brighter, where as in others they do appear to be so dull/non-reflective to the point of appearing to have been painted silver.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/Ruth_Dailey_with_P-38_zpsenlyzycd.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/Ruth_Dailey_with_P-38_zpsenlyzycd.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/Lockheed-P-38-Lightning-045.preview_zpsrlzhabty.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/Lockheed-P-38-Lightning-045.preview_zpsrlzhabty.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/lockheedStaff_zps8xli5u5w.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/lockheedStaff_zps8xli5u5w.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/5939628901_5a7da87f6c_b_zpsd4qmrbkf.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/5939628901_5a7da87f6c_b_zpsd4qmrbkf.jpg.html)

Bomber_12th
April 11th, 2015, 10:17
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/P38-May1988-1_zpsmydpj6zz.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/P38-May1988-1_zpsmydpj6zz.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/GroundCrewPersonnelLoadWingTankOnTheLockheedP-38LittleRedHeadIsleyFieldSaipanMarianasIslandsNove mber1944_zpsos1spznd.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/GroundCrewPersonnelLoadWingTankOnTheLockheedP-38LittleRedHeadIsleyFieldSaipanMarianasIslandsNove mber1944_zpsos1spznd.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/p-38-header_zpsronkv2hg.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/p-38-header_zpsronkv2hg.jpg.html)

jankees
April 11th, 2015, 21:53
John, I found the details about the painted bits in the book "P-38 Lightning cz 3" by Adam Jarski and Zbigniew Kolacha, nr 70 in the Monografie Lotnicze series. According to them, the leading edges of the wings were filled, sanded and painted, while the upper part of the booms, the radiators, the gun doors, the nose tip and and the part around the guns and parts of the elevator were painted.
If you look at the pics you posted, especially at the pic of 44-25419, you can see this quite clearly. I've gone over a lot of pics of frontline aircraft as well, and it is not always clear due to the amount of dirt and grime, I've found that especially the doors to the gun compartment (where you usually find the noseart, and which is consequently most often photographed) are nearly always painted. The wings and booms are not so clear, but it is hard to find good pictures of those.
A few examples
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/real%20pics/MajorRC.jpgoriginal.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/real%20pics/MajorRC.jpgoriginal.jpg.html)
the subject matter of the paint we're talking about. Clearly the gun door and the edge of the wing fairing have been painted, the leading edge too I think.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/real%20pics/Lockheed_P-38J-25_Just_Lazy_44-23657_ETO.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/real%20pics/Lockheed_P-38J-25_Just_Lazy_44-23657_ETO.jpg.html)
here it looks as if the entire nose tip has been painted as well

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/real%20pics/CAPTPeterRMoodyofthe393rdFtrSq367thFGwithhisground crewClastresairfieldA-71France14October1944.jpgoriginal.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/real%20pics/CAPTPeterRMoodyofthe393rdFtrSq367thFGwithhisground crewClastresairfieldA-71France14October1944.jpgoriginal.jpg.html)
while here it looks as if it is only the nose tip and the part where the guns stick out, and the big doors of cours.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/real%20pics/Clip_5.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/real%20pics/Clip_5.jpg.html)
a side view, note the contrast underneath the wing between the engine compartment and the rest of the boom

jankees
April 11th, 2015, 21:59
but there's exceptions too:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/real%20pics/sn%2044-23178.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/real%20pics/sn%2044-23178.jpg.html)

here the gun door, with the 'Okie-Bloke' on it seems to have been in bare metal. Maybe it was polished in the field, maybe it was never painted?
Most doors I looked at of wartime aircraft seem painted to me, as do most engine compartments and leading edges of the wings, so I thought I'd incorporate it in my paints. I still need to paint a few bits and pieces, but I'm getting there. So many texture files, so many bits and pieces.....
It does seem to have been very strong paint, because I see very little evidence of the silver paint being worn or peeled away.
OK, back to photoshop...

mvg3d
April 11th, 2015, 23:59
This for the not-yet-released Milviz P-38L.

and yes, those prop textures... to be honest, I don't think they look that good in motion, but hey, that's only my opinion...

Me, I'm only playing with the paintkit, and to wet your appetite of course!
And of course, most of the texture work was done by Milviz, we have to give credit where credit is due!

Hi Jan,
Congratulations for Your awesome work !!!
It seems to me there is a little issue in the props rendering : I think that the rivets on the spins must disappear when props rotate and the blade hole must be more "blurred".....
:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

jankees
April 12th, 2015, 00:43
I know, but there's only one texture for the prop, no rotating texture

Meanwhile, I've continued working on the textures:
I had forgotten to paint the wingtips and have now added the stainless steel plates around the superchargers:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17178.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17178.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17179.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17179.jpg.html)

I changed the color of the paint to something closer to the metal color and added the leading edge of the elevator:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17171.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17171.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17180.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17180.jpg.html)

Stickshaker
April 12th, 2015, 00:55
Your paints look superb, Jankees, whatever the outcome of the above detail discusions. A bit off-topic: can you perhaps post a few VC shots?<o:p></o:p>

jankees
April 12th, 2015, 01:30
and I've added the inboard mirrors. You see the lighter sky looking up:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17176.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17176.jpg.html)

and the darker ground looking down:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17177.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17177.jpg.html)
you also see the no step sign on the window sill. Here it is in red letters, some aircraft show a red bar with white letters, but I'll save that for another paint.
If you don't see any glaring mistakes, I think I'll use this as a base for my other repaints... OK with you guys?

stovall
April 12th, 2015, 07:37
Thanks to Jan and John for the discussion regarding how the P-38 was painted, acid etched or polished. That is what I love about this forum. Two guys who are really in the know letting the rest of us in on some great information. Much appreciated. :adoration:

jankees
April 12th, 2015, 08:33
our pleasure, really.
the office:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17194.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17194.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17210.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17210.jpg.html)

and Gentle Annie has the new textures as well:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17192.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17192.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17205.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17205.jpg.html)

Stickshaker
April 12th, 2015, 08:46
Thanks, Jankees. It is almost photorealistic!

Bomber_12th
April 12th, 2015, 08:56
Related to what I mentioned about wartime aircraft manufacturing using acid-etching on skins where spot welding occurred, in the following photos of factory-new bare metal P-51's and P-47's, the cowl panels (and some fairings/other panels) are brighter/more dull because of the acid-etching treatment, not paint. Like the P-38, the cowl panels on the P-51 and P-47 also had spot welding (quite a bit of it) to join the outer skins to the inner stamped structural portion. In-use over time the acid-etched surface would wear, just as the rest of the skins would dull, and there would be less variation in the appearance of the skins.

On the authentically-restored P-51D "Upupa Epops", the dull cowl panels (and some other panels and fairings) are not painted, but are the result of those panels being acid-etched, as per original. Note that, because of their reflective and specular attributes being different than the shiny aluminum, the dull acid-etched panels can appear either darker, similar in shade, or lighter compared to the shiny aluminum, depending on angle/lighting, much like the silver-painted wing surface. In order to get the proper appearances under all lighting scenarios in FSX, it requires special attention between all four - diffuse values, diffuse alpha values, specular values, and specular alpha values.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/P51-Mustang-Upupa-Epops_zps0uxx2cl2.jpg~original
https://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyairshows/3539225419/sizes/l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyairshows/3540003104/sizes/l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_atkinson/4785720282/sizes/l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dschultz742/7682321940/sizes/l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/75485754@N00/7497057012/sizes/l

(https://www.flickr.com/photos/75485754@N00/7497057012/sizes/l)http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/republic183P-47D-22REflightline3_zpsyl2f9b37.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/republic183P-47D-22REflightline3_zpsyl2f9b37.jpg.html)

Note in this photo, the panels which are acid-etched, actually show up brighter than the silver-painted rudder.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/P-51D-No-Fillet_zpsgnekgjt3.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/P-51D-No-Fillet_zpsgnekgjt3.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/tumblr_nb1xng5HQr1tj6t0uo6_1280_zpskmsksmto.jpg~or iginal (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/tumblr_nb1xng5HQr1tj6t0uo6_1280_zpskmsksmto.jpg.ht ml)

Bomber_12th
April 12th, 2015, 08:59
Regarding the Milviz P-38 VC, as I've mentioned to Collin, I could sit and admire that control yoke all day - a gorgeous piece of modeling and texturing. The VC has been crammed-full of detail, wherever you look, including even behind and under the seat.

gatlin7
April 12th, 2015, 11:33
"If you don't see any glaring mistakes, I think I'll use this as a base for my other repaints... OK with you guys?"

Speaking as a life-long P-38 nut, the only changes I would suggest concern minor details with the anti-glare panels. I believe the OD on the inside of the engine nacelles should extend a little farther down to the bottom of the panel containing the small air scoop, and the area immediately below the flat part of the windscreen should be OD as well. Several of the images posted by Bomber_12th show these areas to good effect. Overall, these are stunning paints, Jan Kees!

jankees
April 12th, 2015, 12:41
see? this is why I need your input! After a while you just overlook things like that.
As for etched vs painted, they do look different now from bare metal, that's a start...

jankees
April 12th, 2015, 23:47
oh dear, I overdid it a bit with the OD below the windscreen!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17230.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17230.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17237.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17237.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17232.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17232.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17225.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17225.jpg.html)

still some details to sort, but getting there..

jankees
April 16th, 2015, 05:10
So, I changed the antiglare panels on the pod and on the engines, (I actually found there are two variations for the panel in front of the cockpit, I will be doing the other were appropriate) and I toned down the paintwork a bit, and adressed a few more little odds and ends, so here's what it looks like now:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17267.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17267.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17273.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17273.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17269.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17269.jpg.html)

you think you will be able to live with and fly it like this??

stovall
April 16th, 2015, 06:07
Absolutely no doubt about being able to fly it like it is. Good job Jan!!! :adoration:

DaveB
April 16th, 2015, 06:29
YES!:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Creepy847
April 16th, 2015, 06:47
Great work Jankees and thx for sharing those photos to John. I love those and save all I find.

Creeps.

jankees
April 16th, 2015, 08:49
OK, good to hear!
Here's an example of the other anti-glare panel:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17282.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17282.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17284.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17284.jpg.html)

jankees
April 16th, 2015, 13:10
few more pics of Annie in her new clothes:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17342.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17342.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17358.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17358.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17351.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17351.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/ss17357.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/ss17357.jpg.html)

gatlin7
April 16th, 2015, 13:25
Outstanding!

fsxar177
April 16th, 2015, 15:02
These look SO good JK!

If MilViz is listening though, the prop blur has got to go..

- Joseph

greenie
April 16th, 2015, 15:12
...I concur with Joseph . The prop textures have to go . I don't fly the Kingair as much as I could because of its prop textures , very annoying , to me .

fsxar177
April 16th, 2015, 17:05
...I concur with Joseph . The prop textures have to go . I don't fly the Kingair as much as I could because of its prop textures , very annoying , to me .


And it's not just the texture. It's part of the modelling as well.

Wings of Gold
April 16th, 2015, 18:21
That prop blur really turns me off, and I was a committed buyer until I saw it. Fix it and you've got my money. Bill

Alan_A
April 16th, 2015, 19:26
One more down vote on the prop textures - the new ones are seriously bizarre.

But a major up vote on Jankees' work - really looking forward to flying those paints once the a/c is released and a non-horrifying prop is fitted.

Katoun
April 16th, 2015, 19:35
Hi,

Thank you for all of your comments on the prop blur.

We will be replacing them with something else.

Thank you.

Kat.

Alan_A
April 16th, 2015, 20:23
Hi,

Thank you for all of your comments on the prop blur.

We will be replacing them with something else.

Thank you.

Kat.

No, thank YOU!

Most appreciated!

greenie
April 16th, 2015, 21:51
Thank you Kat . I knew you guys participate in the forum so an extra plea wouldn't hurt ! Hope that does include an alternative for the Kingair . Cheers

jankees
April 17th, 2015, 02:07
so while the prop goes into revision, I've finished adapting another paint:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/jk10.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/jk10.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/jk13.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/jk13.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/jk8.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/jk8.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/P-38/jk11.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/P-38/jk11.jpg.html)

Bomber_12th
April 17th, 2015, 07:39
The texture work is really looking fantastic, Jan Kees!

Katoun
April 17th, 2015, 07:52
Hi all,

We have now made a deal with Dmitri of Majestic so that we can use the same tech for our props. We are processing this now and will be in the next build that is sent to Jan Kees.

We will be delaying our release due to this but not yet sure for how long.

Thank you.

Kat.

Ian Warren
April 17th, 2015, 14:13
Those textures really do look superb , bitta mud plugging in the Aleutians :encouragement:

huub vink
April 18th, 2015, 03:21
Beautiful model and very nice work on the textures JanKees! Its funny as I first saw the blurry prop thextures, I thought they looked much more like what I see when I take a picture of a flying prop plane.

But thats just personal taste.......
Huub

Sundog
April 18th, 2015, 08:23
Jan Kees, torturer in chief! :::Must:::Have:::P-38:::

Seriously, thanks for spending so much effort in making these great textures for this upcoming product. I'll thank Milviz when they release it to my grubby little hands. ;)

Bomber_12th
April 18th, 2015, 08:54
Some of my favorite P-38 photos from the Roger Freeman collection (high res):

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005366.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005419.jpg (my personal favorite of all P-38 schemes, when seen in full)

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_010042.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005418.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005362.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_002406.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_002391.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005441.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005506.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_010120.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_002436.jpg

http://147084544c678448852d-ddcc53207dce6036b290906311a424f9.r57.cf3.rackcdn.c om/rfc/FRE_005395.jpg

jankees
April 18th, 2015, 12:41
Good news then, California Cutie is one of the included textures from Milviz!
And you've seen Gentle Annie from me.
As for the rest...