Vertigo Studios T-33A - Feature Requests

[fsxar177]

Good-day,

Systems coding, and flight modeling is under R&D right now for the T-33A. Please post what you would like to see here.
Maybe there's a specific feature, or item that you would like to see included? We'll consider all opinions and comments.

- Joseph

[fsafranek]

Good-day,

Systems coding, and flight modeling is under R&D right now for the T-33A. Please post what you would like to see here.
Maybe there's a specific feature, or item that you would like to see included? We'll consider all opinions and comments.

- Joseph
Might as well get it over with -- VRS TacPack.

And since there was a world of operators, a user friendly paint kit that doesn't require the latest Photoshop to use.
:ernaehrung004:

[joanvalley]

I'd like a simplified version where no complex tasks have to be done in order to fly it.

Jose.

[fsxar177]

Might as well get it over with -- VRS TacPack.

And since there was a world of operators, a user friendly paint kit that doesn't require the latest Photoshop to use.
:ernaehrung004:

Consider it done.

[Mach3DS]

1. Engine limitations. Hot starts possible. Overheat etc.
2. Compressability effects at sub-transonic flight.
3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era).

[fsxar177]

1. Engine limitations. Hot starts possible. Overheat etc.
2. Compressability effects at sub-transonic flight.
3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era).

Noted. I'm with you 100% on these items.

[ejoiner]

Good-day,

Systems coding, and flight modeling is under R&D right now for the T-33A. Please post what you would like to see here.
Maybe there's a specific feature, or item that you would like to see included? We'll consider all opinions and comments.

- Joseph

The ability to smoke in the cockpit and use the relief tube in virtual reality. :untroubled:

[WND]

The ability to smoke in the cockpit and use the relief tube in virtual reality. :untroubled:

The 'relief' tube I can go with BUT no smoking !!! Your in an airplane that's capable of flying above FL120 therefore you will have' that good ole pure hospital oxigen (sp)" installed !! Unless you and the airplane want to become 'one' at some point - NO SMOKING !!!!

Bill

Edit: Hell, I was commenting as a pilot - I forgot you won't be leaving your chair !!!!!! lol

[Mach3DS]

Cool! :D Glad it made the cut! (if possible!) Really looking forward to this one from you guys. The Historic Flight Foundation here at Paine field KPAE is planning to restore one to flyable condition.

[skyhawka4m]

Noted. I'm with you 100% on these items.

Anyway to make a jump in and fly mode? No complex, just for fun flying?

Also, on shut down pilots go away....red tags show up, helmets perched on sills and edge of forward wind screen when canopy open?

Also, the centerline baggage pod for later units that flew it in the ADC.

Under wing fuel tanks.

http://files.quarter-models7.webnode.fr/200000210-de4acdf40f/CA-Oakland_T-33.jpg
shows what I mean about the helmet

http://www.318fis.com/IMAGES/T-33A%2058-2106%20318%20FIS%20TAC%20img154%20550X260.jpg
shows under wing tanks

[fsxar177]

Anyway to make a jump in and fly mode? No complex, just for fun flying?

Also, on shut down pilots go away....red tags show up, helmets perched on sills and edge of forward wind screen when canopy open?

Also, the centerline ECM blister for later units that flew it in the ADC.

Under wing fuel tanks.


Excellent recommendations...

An option to just jump in/fly is being considered.. 'Turning off' complex systems programming, so to speak.

[rpetty]

How about a reconnaissance variant of the T-33A, the RT-33A with forward folding nose, exposing the camera bay. With animation of the camera cart next to aircraft.

[txnetcop]

1. Engine limitations. Hot starts possible. Overheat etc.
2. Compressability effects at sub-transonic flight.
3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era).

Absolutely ESSENTIAL!
Ted

[ColoKent]

"3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era)."

TOTALLY agree, and I've been talking to Dino about that possibility for the last three years (my candidates to Dino were the P-4 [1950s/early 60s], HGU-2P [1962-1986], and HGU-55P [1987-present-ish]). Unfortunately, Dino tells me he is limited to one helmet. I told him my vote is for the HGU-2P, if limited to one, as it covers the longest period of the T-33's service (1962-1985/86 (tel:1962-1985/86)).

Also, I've asked for a travel pod...sounds promising.

This bird is gonna be great!

Kent

[fsxar177]

In regards to helmet selections, this would be quite easy to introduce, where a status panel would simply allow the user to select his preference, and it would be an instant change.

- Joseph

[ColoKent]

Joseph...Go for it! FYI, I shipped pics of all three of those helmets to Deano in the last 24 hours, so he's got 'em. Helmet selection would be AWESOME!

Kent

[trucker17]

How about a single seat option.....
And Removable tip tanks
http://i.imgur.com/LNs8X79.jpg (http://imgur.com/LNs8X79)
http://i.imgur.com/5xCrull.jpg (http://imgur.com/5xCrull)
http://i.imgur.com/sRmW9Vw.jpg (http://imgur.com/sRmW9Vw)

[ejoiner]

How about a single seat option.....
And Removable tip tanks
http://i.imgur.com/LNs8X79.jpg (http://imgur.com/LNs8X79)
http://i.imgur.com/5xCrull.jpg (http://imgur.com/5xCrull)
http://i.imgur.com/sRmW9Vw.jpg (http://imgur.com/sRmW9Vw)

Regarding Tip tanks, I think you are comparing F-80 and T-33. Were the T-33 tip tanks ever removable?

[skyhawka4m]

Regarding Tip tanks, I think you are comparing F-80 and T-33. Were the T-33 tip tanks ever removable?


Yes and early T-33s carried the under wingtip fuel tanks also like the P-80 had

[heywooood]

tailhook...? fer the Navy and whatnot

[Javis]

"3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era)."

TOTALLY agree, and I've been talking to Dino about that possibility for the last three years (my candidates to Dino were the P-4 [1950s/early 60s], HGU-2P [1962-1986], and HGU-55P [1987-present-ish]). Unfortunately, Dino tells me he is limited to one helmet. I told him my vote is for the HGU-2P, if limited to one, as it covers the longest period of the T-33's service (1962-1985/86 (tel:1962-1985/86)).

Right on, Kent. If only one helmet HGU-2/P good choice. Still, in my aviation book the P series flight helmet belongs to the T-33 like wings belong to a bird.


Here's a couple of T-33 drivers during the 50's and early 60's :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/t33_p1.jpg

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/t33_p2.jpg

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/t33_p3.jpg


And please give them pilots a natural, relaxed stance, like the're enjoying the flight. Not like a stiff plank with their helmets smack dabb to the headrest, scared to death, ready to eject... ;-)

Hand on the windscreen frame during taxi ?.....

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/t33_p4.jpg

( well, you asked what i'd like to see, Joseph.... ;-)

[Peg o my heart]

1. Engine limitations. Hot starts possible. Overheat etc.
2. Compressability effects at sub-transonic flight.
3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era).

Engine limitations. Well said.

[fsxar177]

Really good thread so far guys..keep it up. We're listening.

- Joseph

[jankees]

And since there was a world of operators, a user friendly paint kit that doesn't require the latest Photoshop to use.


I don't mind so much about the photoshop version, I would even be happy with just a white texture Carenado style, but I worry more about the layout, so make it userfiendly without for example having the fuselage being cut up in lots of bits and pieces and strange distortions etc.
Look at A2A for good layout, Aerosoft Twin Otter for bad layout.

[hschuit]

Great thread! Just my 50 cents:

- A simple loadout configurator for non Tacpack users (or at least the option to configure loadouts by adjusting FSX Payload Manager station weight values).
- Make it network multiplayer friendly, meaning the code does not generate looping key events which cause network packet flooding.

[Daube]

Here are a few requests, some of them have already been asked above, but I'll write them again nevertheless:
- realistic engine start procedure: please ensure we have to click these switches as a real pilot had to.
- realistic engine behavior: excepted a few of us, most people would like to see a realistic engine power and response times. That includes limitations and possible failures due to bad manipulations/manoevers (if any)
- virtual cockpit lights: in some planes (free or payware) sometimes the lighting of the gauges and cabin are a bit exagerated. I hope you guys will ensure these lights look good :) Also, ensure the effects you use don't have that limitation that make them visible only from a certain time in the evening...
- virtual cockpit holes: Occulus is coming "soon". Please ensure we can look anywhere without seeing obvious missing parts ;)
- TacPack: already planned as you said :)
- Considering our various "cold and dark" situations: most of us use "cold and dark" default flights that are sometimes problematic with some planes. For example, my default flight has the avionics switch turned off and the mixture set to zero. When I launch a plane that doesn't have an avionics switch or a fuel control, then I have no choice but to press CTRL+E to start it or to make the radios active after startup, and that is frustrating. Could you ensure the essential switches/controls are available in the cockpit, or are handled automatically under the hood ?
- Installation program: I don't know if you guys are "supporting" P3D or FSX-Steam. But could you simply ensure the installation program works in a "simple enough" way for us to select the destination of the files easilly ?

[DaveB]

Good idea Henk:encouragement:

Agree with Jan's comment too.. except the bit about the Carenado style 'blank'. I've still not mastered that:banghead:

Jump in and fly.. another good idea. Something along the lines of MilViz (a couple of clicks to light up essential services) would be excellent for those not keen on clicking every switch (eg: me)!!

ATB
DaveB:)

[jankees]

Good idea Henk:encouragement:

Agree with Jan's comment too.. except the bit about the Carenado style 'blank'. I've still not mastered that:banghead:



It's real simple, you open the white texture in photoshop or whatever you're using, set that layer to 'multiply'and put your paint below the white layer. Works beautifully.
And you can make shiny and even metal textures by playing around with the alpha and spec.

[DagR]

Anyway to make a jump in and fly mode? No complex, just for fun flying?

Also, on shut down pilots go away....red tags show up, helmets perched on sills and edge of forward wind screen when canopy open?

Also, the centerline baggage pod for later units that flew it in the ADC.

Under wing fuel tanks.

http://files.quarter-models7.webnode.fr/200000210-de4acdf40f/CA-Oakland_T-33.jpg
shows what I mean about the helmet

http://www.318fis.com/IMAGES/T-33A%2058-2106%20318%20FIS%20TAC%20img154%20550X260.jpg
shows under wing tanks

That's chaff pods in the lower picture.


Best regards
Dag

[DaveB]

It's real simple, you open the white texture in photoshop or whatever you're using, set that layer to 'multiply'and put your paint below the white layer. Works beautifully.
And you can make shiny and even metal textures by playing around with the alpha and spec.

Cheers Jan.. I'll give it another go. There are some UK paints for the Alabeo R66 I'd like to take a shot at and this will help:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[johndetrick]

Since you are so close and have the source files, how about the USN/USMC TV-2? I would buy it and I'm sure enough other people would as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_T2V_SeaStar

[huub vink]

I don't mind so much about the photoshop version, I would even be happy with just a white texture Carenado style, but I worry more about the layout, so make it userfiendly without for example having the fuselage being cut up in lots of bits and pieces and strange distortions etc.
Look at A2A for good layout, Aerosoft Twin Otter for bad layout.

I fully agree, a logical lay-out of the textures is the most important. Look at the Classic hangar FW190 who have everything you need for a repaint in one single logical texture. Also the option chosen by ******** for Manfred Jahn's C-47 is very nice. He made one big layered file containing all parts needed to make a repaint in such a way that you can easily cut it into the format of the textures. This is very practical when you want to do shading or weathering.

Cheers,
Huub

[b52bob]

Please don't make us pay twice for the Fsx ond p3d version. Make one size fits all.

[Bone]

Someone mentioned they want the pilots to disappear and red tags to appear at shutdown. Other models that have had this feature in the past weren't very FSrecorder usable, in that on playback the red tags would appear and the pilots would disappear. Can you make sure that doesn't happen during playback? It's a real buzzkill ;)

[Duckie]

Thanks for the opportunity to comment!

Please, no mirrored texture mapping on any parts that may differ, left from right, in their color, graphic, text, etc. I realize this request may seem sophomoric, but there have been some recent examples where mirrored mapping of some parts prevented the accuracy of the repaint.

Some examples might be:

Tip tanks, landing gear cover doors, flying and control surfaces, external stores that might have left/right differentiated graphics, etc.

Again, thanks very much for the opportunity to comment. Looking forward to this one.

Best regards,
Steve

[fsxar177]

Please don't make us pay twice for the Fsx ond p3d version. Make one size fits all.


Certainly not. That would be a scam.

FSX, FSX-SE, P3d1.4 - P3d 2.5 will be fully supported.

And again, excellent requests thus far guys. This is GREAT, because we can more directly meet your needs and desires, and deliver a satisfying product.

- Joseph

[wallyboard]

Any thoughts to including the Canadian variant that used the Rolls Royce Nene engine @ 5100 lbs./thrust? It had a distinctive whistling sound, similar to the MD Banshee, notably different from the Allison J-33.

Cheers
Larry

[mgchrist5]

Whatever you guys do will be much appreciated! Aside from the engine & systems modeling mentioned by others, might I also suggest implementing a 'modern' panel....relatively speaking? I'm not talking about GPS and certainly not glass, but at least something containing civilian navcoms, transponder, VOR CDI, etc? But whatever you do - I'll be in line to buy it! Many thanks for soliciting the feedback.

http://www.aopa.org/-/media/Images/AOPA/Pilot/1501p/1501p_t33_002.jpg?h=596&w=960

[DagR]

This is one I am going to paint for ages ;-)


Best regards
Dag

[DagR]

Edit: Double post, please remove.


Best regards
Dag

[sbp]

A nice version would be the USAF T-33 used by the Air Force Communication Service, (AFCS), which was used for flight checking USAF NAVAIDS and USAF air traffic controller standards and procedures. They were bare metal with red trim on tail and nose with the AFCS command patch located on vertical stab.

sbp

[Dutcheeseblend]

I think it would make sense to add an option for either 'lite' or 'real' flight model/handling. I understand the kick of handling an airplane like you'd do it in RL, but some prefer just 'easy fun' (not to insult anyone ;)). If I am a simmer (what I am sometimes...), I sometimes prefer easy, and sometimes 'real'.

I'm thinking about that for my T.5 too, you see. There's a fair bit of systems (not too many, but anyway), so I could make a gauge which sets certain bools to true which in fact skips all neccessary 'real' steps one should have to do otherwise.

Anxious to see the result in any case Joseph ;) Good luck with this one!

[ST0RM]

Early T-33 did carry the underwing Misawa tanks. Iirc, they were initally called TF-80s.

Jeff

[ejoiner]

"3. the option to switch Period helmets. Since it was used for so long by so many operators it would be amazing to switch out the helmets to match the period. vintage through modern (90's era)."

TOTALLY agree, and I've been talking to Dino about that possibility for the last three years (my candidates to Dino were the P-4 [1950s/early 60s], HGU-2P [1962-1986], and HGU-55P [1987-present-ish]). Unfortunately, Dino tells me he is limited to one helmet. I told him my vote is for the HGU-2P, if limited to one, as it covers the longest period of the T-33's service (1962-1985/86 (tel:1962-1985/86)).

Also, I've asked for a travel pod...sounds promising.

This bird is gonna be great!

Kent

Dunno why Dino is limited to 1 helmet. Metal2Mesh has 3 helmets available for their Mirage 2000.

[ejoiner]

Thanks for the opportunity to comment!

Please, no mirrored texture mapping on any parts that may differ, left from right, in their color, graphic, text, etc. I realize this request may seem sophomoric, but there have been some recent examples where mirrored mapping of some parts prevented the accuracy of the repaint.

Some examples might be:

Tip tanks, landing gear cover doors, flying and control surfaces, external stores that might have left/right differentiated graphics, etc.

Again, thanks very much for the opportunity to comment. Looking forward to this one.

Best regards,
Steve

Absolutely endorse Duckies comments here. Just tons of repaint possibilities with this bird that would make it immensely popular. Mirrored textures would limit that greatly.

Eric

[ejoiner]

I think it would make sense to add an option for either 'lite' or 'real' flight model/handling. I understand the kick of handling an airplane like you'd do it in RL, but some prefer just 'easy fun' (not to insult anyone ;)). If I am a simmer (what I am sometimes...), I sometimes prefer easy, and sometimes 'real'.

I'm thinking about that for my T.5 too, you see. There's a fair bit of systems (not too many, but anyway), so I could make a gauge which sets certain bools to true which in fact skips all neccessary 'real' steps one should have to do otherwise.

Anxious to see the result in any case Joseph ;) Good luck with this one!

This is a great idea. As a repainter, Often I just want to jump in and test fly something. I dont want to go through a complex start up etc. On the other hand, sometimes, I do want to do some serious flying. Ability to choose mode would be great.

[Anthin]

Jump in and easy fly plus Option for clear glass canopy.

Anthin.

[fsxar177]

All of these requests are being noted. We can't promise everything, and you can never please everybody, but we'll do our best!

- Joseph

[TARPSBird]

Navy T-33's used to operate out of NAS Glenview when I was in the reserves, and you'd see them at just about every NAS either in transit or as station aircraft. I'd like to see at least one stock T-Bird in a Navy paint job.

[johndetrick]

Trust me, there's going to be one or two usn/usmc repaints from me:jump:

[Bjoern]

My list:

1. Blade erosion simulation in the J33's compressor, down to vapor-droplet accuracy.

2. That subtle, almost inaudible change in engine whine when you roll about 0.25° while in a -2.226G dive. Get the numbers right, it doesn't happen under any other condition!

3. A helmet from John Doe's training flights in 1958. Standard issue, but had a large scratch running from just about ear-height on the left side all the way to the back.

4. "No switch" mode. A military trainer aircraft is much too complex for me and I just can't wrap my head around that weird "Battery-fuel valve-engine starter" concept.

5. "Student pilot" mode who also flies the plane. He's fresh of the theory, so he should be able to wrap his head around the REALLY perilous handling characteristics of this bird much better than me!

6. A canadian version with maple syrup filled door seals.

7. Drop tanks. You know, these interim models of which only about three dozen or so were produced? Yeah, the look like the ones from the P-80, but taper not quite as hardly (about a 0.005% difference) at the back.

8. Differences between production runs. I've heard that the 1957 wing fastening bolts offered a 0.21% increase in wing stability and thus pushed the critical mach number up by 0.0005. I want that represented in the FDE.

9. Speaking of FDE and flying, you know how the EGT would always be a bit above what it should be on a monday? Yeah? I bet that'd make two more people buy this one! Also, it's supposed to not start up on the first try after a full moon night.

10. Cockpit lighting should be bright enough that I can still slobber about all the details on that Marylin Monroe photo (that is of course mandatory on the instructor's panel) at night while not too bright so that I won't give my position away to one of these dreaded commies on the ground that have certainly infiltrated my country!

11. "Sloppy crew chief mode" with covers and safety pins that appear randomly in flight (and of course make the corresponding aircraft system fail).

12. Accounting for "Mexican Food Night" that was customary on wednesdays back when I was stationed at Freedom AFB from 2/65 to 4/69. Implementation could be via sound bits that randomly exclaim "*Pfffffrt*", "Sorry!" and "Ewww, what's that smell?!"

13. TACPACK support. No purchase without this one! But I want to strap LGBs and nukes on the wings because the only way to deal with a dirty communist on the range is to blow him back into the stone age. Also, didn't you know that the T-33 could be used as a real bomb truck? Not even the F-4 came close!

14. An installer for FSX, FSXSE, P3D 1.4, P3Dv2, X-Plane, FlightGear and every other installment of MSFS back to FS4.

15. Absolutely no frame rate drop and OOM with this bird, regardless of how many strain simulations you're runnning on each wing panel!

16. A price tag of $-5. Hey, after all, my suggestions ensure that the model will become a real winner!

[ColoKent]

Thanks for listening to user input, Joseph. This is going to be a great release.

Kent

[heywooood]

lol Bjoern - nice - but you left a participle dangling...2 point deduction

[semo]

TARPSbird this is my paint for Tin Conrad's great T-33.



http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21546&stc=1

I spent 4 years at NAS Glenview in the seventies.

[Bjoern]

lol Bjoern - nice - but you left a participle dangling...2 point deduction

Nooooooo, there goes my gold medal!

[Rallymodeller]

I'll second the CT133 option. It's also slightly longer than the standard T-33, and was the second-most built variant.

[falcon409]

lol, great response Bjoern. . . classic!

[Roger]

lol, great response Bjoern. . . classic!


Yes Ed... had to laugh.

[Alan_A]

Bjoern... bravo! :applause:

[odourboy]

In your model, please support alpha channel 'shine' in your textures along with bump and specular mapping so we can go crazy on the repaints. :jump:

[Snurdley]

If there isn't a "jump in and fly" mode, it would be money wasted for me I'm afraid. But I'm sure this will be a popular subject.

[fsxar177]

In your model, please support alpha channel 'shine' in your textures along with bump and specular mapping so we can go crazy on the repaints. :jump:


Wouldn't have it any other way!

And by the way, anyone who has logged real T-33 flight time as P.I.C. (any variant), we would like to hear from you. Please send me a private message.

- Joseph

[ZsoltB]

+ chocks,RBF ribbons,engine covers,removable pilots,ladders....

:encouragement:

[DennyA]

1) Thunderbirds and Blue Angels paints
2) Would pay extra for a T2V-1 Seastar!!!!
3) AI version would be nice

[TARPSBird]

TARPSbird this is my paint for Tim Conrad's great T-33. I spent 4 years at NAS Glenview in the seventies.

Semo, have you uploaded that paint anywhere? I have Tim's T-33 and would like to have the Glenview paint.

[semo]

TARPbird- I haven't download it any where. I used some ones paint as a base and don't remember who's work it was. Sorry.

[mmann]

I agree that a CT-133 Silver Star would be most welcome.

[Bjoern]

lol, great response Bjoern. . . classic!

Yes Ed... had to laugh.

Bjoern... bravo! :applause:

*Takes a bow*




Oh, almost forgot...

17. A 167% bug free release in exactly two weeks from now.

[mvg3d]

Single Seat RT-33 PLEASEEEE !!!!!

21607 21609

:applause::applause::applause:

[Stickshaker]

How about a single seat option.....
And Removable tip tanks
http://i.imgur.com/LNs8X79.jpg (http://imgur.com/LNs8X79)
http://i.imgur.com/5xCrull.jpg (http://imgur.com/5xCrull)
http://i.imgur.com/sRmW9Vw.jpg (http://imgur.com/sRmW9Vw)

I don't know how difficult it is to make a P-80 version when the T-33A model is complete, but I would be very interested in it, even more than in the T-33A.

[fsxar177]

At the present, a full P-80 variant isn't being discussed.

- Joseph

[spatialpro]

I'd also like a RT-33 model please.... with functional cameras which produce B&W photos in a separate folder after the sortie is completed, from which we can judge the accuracy of our photography!

Andy

[Rallymodeller]

Wouldn't have it any other way!

And by the way, anyone who has logged real T-33 flight time as P.I.C. (any variant), we would like to hear from you. Please send me a private message.

- Joseph

PM sent. And a good one.

[delta_lima]

Some great ideas here - and thanks Joseph for the updates.

I'll echo John D's request for a T2V. That'd be the stuff of legend in FSX, I'd be on it like the proverbial screen door in a windstorm.

21644

Even if it shared the standard T-bird VC, I'd be giddy with glee.

With all the export and license built versions, there's mountains of repaint possibilities for a T-33 project. Looking forward to it.

I had a chance to clamber around a CT-133 at Cold Lake ages ago and took pics. Can dig up if required, though I'm sure you have plenty of cockpit photos. Let me know.

Regards,

dl

[fsxar177]

I'd also like a RT-33 model please.... with functional cameras which produce B&W photos in a separate folder after the sortie is completed, from which we can judge the accuracy of our photography!

Andy

In all seriousness, this could be done with the right programming skills...

But I think the R&D would cost us more than the market could sustain!

- Joseph

[JimmyRFR]

The request seems to be well-represented, but I'll also put a vote in for a CT-133 with the Rolls-Royce Nene's. :)

Regardless of whether it's included, I'm sure it's going to be painted as such anyhow, so I'll be happy no matter what!

[roger-wilco-66]

I'd also like a RT-33 model please.... with functional cameras which produce B&W photos in a separate folder after the sortie is completed, from which we can judge the accuracy of our photography!

Andy

Hey, now that is a great idea! Also for other photo recon aircraft (P-38s for example).
I can imagine that very nice missions could be created with that feature, and as far as I know it has not been done before.

Cheers,
Mark

[spatialpro]

I'll also put a vote in for a CT-133 with the Rolls-Royce Nene's. :)

Me too, I'd definitely like a CT-133 with Nene engine (with appropriate flight model to match) please!

Andy

[hae5904]

Hey, now that is a great idea! Also for other photo recon aircraft (P-38s for example).
I can imagine that very nice missions could be created with that feature, and as far as I know it has not been done before.

Cheers,
Mark

Sylvain Parouty of RFN made that capability for his Etendard IVP version, though not B/W...... It's based on the same principles as taken screenshots within the sim, pictures in a seperate folder.

Cheers,
Hank

[Alan_A]

Hey, now that is a great idea! Also for other photo recon aircraft (P-38s for example).
I can imagine that very nice missions could be created with that feature, and as far as I know it has not been done before.

Cheers,
Mark

+1 for the photography option. I often fly military single-seaters in FSX/P3D in a photo recon profile - it's one of the few mission profiles that really works in a civilian flightsim (plus it's close to my heart for other reasons - note my avatar). The ability to produce actual results would be a fantastic enhancement.

[Lee Mumbower]

Sir, how about some West German paints with the T-33? Lee

[fsxar177]

Unfortunately, I am no longer with this project. Deano would be the best contact, or via Vertigo Studios (http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk).

- Joseph

[ColoKent]

I'm really dying to see this product come out, and the latest thing I see on it are some "many months old" cockpit shots that look fantastic. If I had to guess (and it's a complete guess on my part), finding coders seems always to be on the critical path of these projects.

Still....really looking forward to this one. Hopefully the repaint kit will be a good one, since the repaint possibilities with this one will be pretty much endless...

Kent

[Jen]

I'm really dying to see this product come out, and the latest thing I see on it are some "many months old" cockpit shots that look fantastic. If I had to guess (and it's a complete guess on my part), finding coders seems always to be on the critical path of these projects.

Still....really looking forward to this one. Hopefully the repaint kit will be a good one, since the repaint possibilities with this one will be pretty much endless...

Kent

Absolutely agree with Kent. The T-33 would be a sure buy :eagerness:

Soeren

[Bjoern]

...finding coders seems always to be on the critical path of these projects.

Would be easier if people stopped wanting a fuel slushing simulation in every bloody plane.