Orbx KSEZ Sedona Airport released!

[Tim-HH]

After Palm Springs yet another masterpiece from Jarrad Marshall :applause:

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Greetings
Tim

[Montie]

Bought it first thing in the morning, can not wait to try it.

[ejoiner]

After Palm Springs yet another masterpiece from Jarrad Marshall :applause:

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Greetings
Tim

I own a lot of Orbx/FTX regional sceneries. They are fantastic. They are also huge files that take up multi-gigabytes on the HD. Im ok with that when addressing a regional area, but when individual airports can take up a GB sometimes, I pass. I cant afford to give up the HD space for a single airport. I have a 1 TB drive almost exclusively dedicated to FSX and its getting full.

[JimmyRFR]

I don't mind the size on a stand-alone airport when they include a large chunk of the surrounding area, such as they seem to have done here.

I'd be really interested to know how it blends with available photoscenery.

[ryanbatc]

I want to get it, but it'll have to wait for my budget to free up. I'm already waiting for the Carenado Hawker jet.

[Snurdley]

Another one that's going to be hard to resist...

[ejoiner]

Another one that's going to be hard to resist...

Yeah. Despite size reservations, I lost. I bought it this morning. Very good scenery. Excellent for my warbirds.

[Double J]

Bought it last night still can't get the wrapper open, stops at 80%. Downloaded 5 times, antivirus off, firewall off,1.5TB of space for it in the OS.

can't get no help from Orbx or FSS either.

[StormILM]

I have the old freeware version of this airport & surrounding area which for it's age is quite nice and detailed but the Orbx version is no doubt vastly superior & magnificent I have other things ahead in the budget but I suppose I will be buying it soon enough. Back in the 1990's I had the game Flight Unlimited (Aerobatic Simulator) which had the first Photoreal Scenery I ever saw in a flight sim and KSEZ was one of the airports featured in that game. Since then I have always hoped for a high quality version of the scenery.

[Roger]

The local airport resolution and appearance is very good but terrain beyond is poor. I expect an update soon! I have ensured that my scenery settings are as per the pdf.http://i.imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ.jpg (http://imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ)

[ryanbatc]

You'd have to increase your LOD radius if you mean the far away textures are blurry.

Orbx does this so mountans look sharper

[StormILM]

What would the LOD Radius need to be set at to get the desired resolution for this scenery?

[ryanbatc]

Probably like 6.5 But use caution if flying lots of scenery and complex addons... that setting will lead to OOM's.

It goes under the TERRAIN section of your cfg...

LOD_RADIUS=6.5

You can go up and down as you like... I've always done increments of 1... so 4.5 is default max sliders in FSX... 5.5 is ok but 6.5 loads farther into the distance.

Also in their screenshots they may have taken the pics using DSR (or 4k ie higher resolution), and shrunk them down. That's what I do to screenshots and it makes them look sharper. Blurry scenery appears clearer as well.

[Roger]

You'd have to increase your LOD radius if you mean the far away textures are blurry.

Orbx does this so mountans look sharper

I'm using 6.5.

[dvj]

The local airport resolution and appearance is very good but terrain beyond is poor. I expect an update soon! I have ensured that my scenery settings are as per the pdf.http://i.imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ.jpg (http://imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ)

I use LOD 8.5 and it does not look any better. Honestly their New Zealand, So. Alaska and PNW terrain packs are spectacular, but this is not up to that level of quality. And let's not forget Holger's Grand Canyon mesh. Wow. I am also not getting much autogen, even with the slider all the way to the max. FPS are ok, running around 30 in FSX with DX10. It's a nice piece of work, but the mesh seems incomplete.

[StormILM]

Something is amiss. Is it possible that it was intended to appear in focus(detailed) at default LOD Radius and the higher settings some are using is having a negative effect? If that's not the case, then I suspect something is missing from the package.

[Tim-HH]

The local airport resolution and appearance is very good but terrain beyond is poor. I expect an update soon! I have ensured that my scenery settings are as per the pdf.

I guess that's how the transition to the default scenery looks like.

They probably could have extended the coverage area a little bit more. I mean, the coverage area of Palm Springs (1500sq km) is almost double as big as the one of Sedona (800sq km).

Greetings
Tim

[gman5250]

Note that Sedona is an FTX airport. It is a high resolution PR based scenery surrounded by FTX Global terrain at it's boundary. Because of this, the transition will be very distinct as illustrated by the screen cap.

When an ORBX region is released for this area of the US, the detail will undoubtedly be more correlated to the high def Sedona scenery.

[JimmyRFR]

I was going to suggest that it was the transition to default as well. If you look at the coverage map on their product page, it doesn't cover a square or regular area; the border between coverage and default kind of loops through the various canyons. Depending on the direction you fly, you could hit default far sooner than you'd expect.

[dvj]

Note that Sedona is an FTX airport. It is a high resolution PR based scenery surrounded by FTX Global terrain at it's boundary. Because of this, the transition will be very distinct as illustrated by the screen cap.

When an ORBX region is released for this area of the US, the detail will undoubtedly be more correlated to the high def Sedona scenery.

Interesting. That would be a huge improvement. The ORBX screen shots are a bit misleading with the nice crisp detail on the bluffs and canyons in the distance. I now have autogen after reloading Global through FTX Central. Off to see how this looks in P3D.

[Roger]

My problem is that nothing else of my extensive ORBX collection resembles this:

http://i.imgbox.com/VrvnZhWW.jpg (http://imgbox.com/VrvnZhWW)

http://i.imgbox.com/7yOhsTwi.jpg (http://imgbox.com/7yOhsTwi)

[ramjet]

Hi Ruger,

You are correct, nothing else is like this but then I've felt that way about many Orbx sceneries. I'll be adding this as well but first I need to make some more space on my HD. Enjoy it.


Cal

[JimmyRFR]

Wow, based on Rogers screens, there's something seriously amiss here. Even my non-Orbx airports don't have blurry textures that close. And judging by the map shown on the product page, everything within eyesight of the runway should be photoreal.

I was considering picking this up, but now I might watch the official forums to see what's going on.

[StormILM]

Just for comparison purposes regarding resolution, this is the Bluesky freeware version of KSEZ. The Orbx version airport wins hands down but for a somewhat outdated freeware, the Bluesky version does stay in fairly good resolutionwith low/slow fliers.
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[Javis]

My problem is that nothing else of my extensive ORBX collection resembles this

I see this too but IMHO it's the proverbial 'scratch on your new Ferrari 250 GT' that is distracting you here... ;-)

Concentrate on your take-off and all will be fine. That is with exception of that particular mountain range there in the distance which, even if you get closer to it, is never going to look nice and crispy because these mountain walls are almost straight down and are not textured seperately. Landscape textures are usually mapped only along the Z axis which will result in the typical blurr of anything belonging to that texture along the X and/or Y axis.

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sed1a.jpg


Doesn't mean that this scenery doesn't look good. On the contrary, IMHO it does look very enchanting:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sed1.jpg

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sed2.jpg

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sed3.jpg

I'd say forget the scratch and enjoy your 250GT. ;-)

cheers,
jan

[JimmyRFR]

Jan, thanks for your post, and your screenshots.

I never considered that the textures shown were stretched; makes sense. To be honest, your screenshots are a bit more thorough than the official product shots, which looks like they've taken care to minimize the amount of stretched textures shown. You can still see them in your shots, but of course they look better from the air.

It's back on the consideration list. :)

[paiken]

I think I'll have to get this one for purely sentimental reasons. 25 years ago this Earth Day my wife and I eloped in Sedona at Red Rock State Park. We're planning on going back this year to re-enact our ceremony (minus the preacher, best man and maid of honor), followed by a Mexican food lunch in Sedona.

[dvj]

I think I'll have to get this one for purely sentimental reasons. 25 years ago this Earth Day my wife and I eloped in Sedona at Red Rock State Park. We're planning on going back this year to re-enact our ceremony (minus the preacher, best man and maid of honor), followed by a Mexican food lunch in Sedona.

Early 1960s - my father and I would camp and hunt in the Oak Creek canyon. Imagine Sedona back then. Pretty much an unspoiled area. A quiet little community. Flying the simulation, all I could think is that Sedona is now just another suburb of Phoenix. Reading the crash reports, Sedona airport has quite the bad reputation. Noise, pollution, accidents.

[511Flyer]

I'm a UK citizen who holidayed, or took a "vacation" in Scottsdale a few years back. One trip we took was by air in a Cessna Caravan out of Deer Park airport. We landed at Sedona to collect two passengers, and the pilot warned us of the violent uplift on take off. This is apparently caused by the air current rushing up the side of the hill upon which the airfield sits. It was an unnerving experience, and not the only one we had that day!

We toured around Meteor Crater, Monument Valley, Lake Powell, then flew up to Grand Canyon Airport for the tourist bits. On the way home, we had to drop off at Sedona yet again. All in all, it was a trip to remember. In more ways than one!

We actually went back to Sedona on a road trip, and loved the place. We also learned that it's the only place in the World, where the "Golden Arches" are not Golden. They are green.

Sorry, I went off topic a bit there. Also, I think I'll give the scenery a miss, because I've already got a nice little freebee. Perhaps I shouldn't say that??

Dennis.

[Double J]

The local airport resolution and appearance is very good but terrain beyond is poor. I expect an update soon! I have ensured that my scenery settings are as per the pdf.http://i.imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ.jpg (http://imgbox.com/oNwfGskQ)

After finally getting this installed I would have to agree with you, the mountain textures are disappointing. I thought the surrounding mountains were all supposed to be photoreal like Monument Valley. I doubt there will be an update for it.

[Anthin]

Just bought Sedona and I have to agree with Roger.The
Mountain textures are not good.There are other goodies
that are great.The Blue sky sceneries are wearing well indeed.

Anthin.

[Alky]

Bought it last night still can't get the wrapper open, stops at 80%. Downloaded 5 times, antivirus off, firewall off,1.5TB of space for it in the OS.

can't get no help from Orbx or FSS either.

Get yourself a download manager, there are some good freeware ones these days. I was trying to download the AI from them and one of the updates refused to download without being corrupted. I saw a post that suggested a download manager and first try success! Get one that says it does resumes.
This is the one I tried (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Download-Managers/Free-Download-Manager.shtml)and worked great.