Best P-38

[dc10boy]

Hi All, I'm going to get me a P-38 this weekend.Which is the best most realistic model available, the FSD or Sky Unlimited offering and why?
Stan

[Peg o my heart]

Get MilViz P-38. You can still use FSD repaints which there are hundreds of them, so dont worry about thr availibilty of repaints. One thing thou, I have fps issue with the P-38, while other more complex addons (avionics wise) run very smoothly on my system. This could be me only, al though several users report the same issue. But generally, MilViz P-38 is the best out there :)

[thefrog]

I have both, but get the FSD/Milviz version, no contest.

[Katoun]

Hi!

We are planning on releasing a totally be P-38L sometime in Q1, 2015.

Thank you

Kat

[RKinkor]

I have the same frame rate issues with the Milviz Red Bull P-38 so I have to go with Sky Unlimited one. I used to use the FSD one until I had problems with their crappy anti-theft software getting corrupted or whatever happened to it and it wouldn't let me reinstall it.

[henrystreet]

Hi! We are planning on releasing a totally be P-38L sometime in Q1, 2015. Thank you Kat Kat, I've looking for a "good" P-38 but wanted a military version. Will this one be such?

[Katoun]

Hi,

The L is the military version.

The plan was (and remains) to put out the Red Bull version (which has been released) and then, when we had time, to release the military version.

We have not yet decided if we will redo the external uv's (which would ruin all of the old repaints) but we might just do that to increase the resolution. The VC was not only remodeled but also repainted and is now, without a doubt, the nicest P-38 VC out there... We can show a pic or two if you wish!

As well, the FPS issues with the Red Bull version are more likely due to the usage of the default glass. The P-38L will have no glass and will therefore be smooth as silk (not my words!).

Thank you.

Kat

[Katoun]

Hi,

Here are the pics. These are not renders. They are screenshots. What you see is what you see in FSX/P3D.

Thank you.

Kat

[Stickshaker]

What a nice surprise, Kat!

[Peg o my heart]

P-38 deserves one more chance. Thank you MilViz for the development of P-38L. :very_drunk:

[henrystreet]

hi, here are the pics. These are not renders. They are screenshots. What you see is what you see in fsx/p3d. Thank you. Kat va va varooom!

[Sundog]

I've been looking forward to this one for a while now. It's good to see it moving forward. Thanks for the previews. :)

[Bomber_12th]

The updated P-38L VC looks absolutely fantastic! I've always loved the original Kevin Miller/Milviz/FSD model, but I've always felt that the VC had a lot of missed potential in texture details (at least as per authentic colors/markings/placards, etc.) Comparing the before and after, the enhancement/improvement is superb. I can't really tell if for sure or not from the screenshots posted, but the gunsight will have glass, correct?

Just to further show how accurate you've got it, here are a couple of photos I've scanned of the Smithsonian's P-38J (updated to later standards, including dive-flaps), which is by far the best preserved un-restored example in existence (left as-is since 1945/46). Note that this one was used State-side during the war, as a test-bed, and the yellow stripe around the flying instruments wasn't a factory-item, rather it was added later-on. (Richard Bong actually flew this aircraft on August 16, 1945, when State-side, for one of its experiment-related flights at Wright Field). Obviously too, there were many different cockpit configurations between P-38 variants, even between L production blocks alone. The exterior of the NASM aircraft, as seen in these photos at David Copley's (DCC) site, still has its original wartime paint and all of the preserved stencils and paint chipping/wear & tear: http://www.kazoku.org/xp-38n/walkaround/smithsonian/index.html

Photo from Fighters of World War II by Jeffrey Ethell and Robert Sand.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/NASM_p-38_1_zps70994401.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/NASM_p-38_1_zps70994401.jpg.html)

Photo from The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum: In the Cockpit by Eric Long, Mark Avino, and Dana Bell. (Note the word "MIC" stenciled on the mic button on the yoke, using a typical US wartime-era font-type)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/NASM_p-38_2_zps7ccba7b5.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/NASM_p-38_2_zps7ccba7b5.jpg.html)

[Bomber_12th]

I appreciate the level of detail even down to the smallest, like the coloring/texturing of the knobs for the cockpit heat on the sides of the canopy and the knobs on the elevator trim wheel and canopy window roll-down levers - these parts all being made of un-painted phenolic resin, they have a brownish/maroon color, just as you have them. The original seats were also made of the same material (molded phenolic resin).

One of my grandma's lived in Marin, California in 1945, and worked in the shipyards there, manufacturing liberty ships. Always interested in aviation, she still distinctly recalls seeing brand-new P-38's in the skies over California, including what she believes were pilots conducting mock-dogfights with each other.

[Bomber_12th]

BTW, if needed, here are a couple of detail photos I've taken of a P-38 mirror and fairing (something that's quite rare these days) - in this case mounted on a P-51, but is unchanged (don't mind the Spitfire mirror).

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/P6300007_zpsde43978e.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/P6300007_zpsde43978e.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/P6300023_zps6a5ee911.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/P6300023_zps6a5ee911.jpg.html)

[dc10boy]

Thanks guys, I guess it's FSD now with an upgrade next year !
Stan

[roger-wilco-66]

Hi,

Here are the pics. These are not renders. They are screenshots. What you see is what you see in FSX/P3D.

Thank you.

Kat


Sold!!! Beautiful!

[hairyspin]

...The exterior of the NASM aircraft, as seen in these photos at David Copley's (DCC) site...

Thanks for the link to these John, that's what I call a walkaround. :wavey:

[Scratch]

sold!!! Beautiful!

woo hoo!!!!!!!!! Sold

[dc10boy]

Thanks to all who provided their input on this.I bought the FSD model yesterday and am having a blast with this thing.It's pretty realistic.Last night I flew escort from Munda to Kahili flying with a formation of B-17s in Jan's "Miss Virginia" repaint.Talk about immersion!A big THANK YOU to everybody who contributes to this great hobby.
Stan

[YoYo]

Hi,

Here are the pics. These are not renders. They are screenshots. What you see is what you see in FSX/P3D.

Thank you.

Kat

More, more more!!!
Any external shot?

[Katoun]

Hi,

Right now, the external is exactly the same as the FSD version. However, we do plan on repainting it to reflect our new style(s) and method(s) of paint.

There is some discussion, again, as to whether or not we redo the uv's. If we were to do so, all the of the existing paints done by artists such as Jankees and others, would be no good. However, if we don't, we will not be able to get the best resolution/quality that we're used to getting on our products.

Thank you.

Kat

[Stickshaker]

Kat, my vote is for quality! Thank you for all this exciting information!

[roger-wilco-66]

Kat, my vote is for quality! Thank you for all this exciting information!


Ditto! :ernaehrung004:

[jankees]

quality gets my vote too, I can always redo my paints...

[Mach3DS]

Same here +1

[Smashing Time]

me too..:kilroy:

[Scratch]

Quality please, you guys are awesome at this.

[fsxar177]

Hi,

Right now, the external is exactly the same as the FSD version. However, we do plan on repainting it to reflect our new style(s) and method(s) of paint.

There is some discussion, again, as to whether or not we redo the uv's. If we were to do so, all the of the existing paints done by artists such as Jankees and others, would be no good. However, if we don't, we will not be able to get the best resolution/quality that we're used to getting on our products.

Thank you.

Kat


It could use a new kit, regardless. Go with the redux on the UV.

Also, I don't know what the possibilities are, but the FDE needs to be maintained, or at least based, much more on that of Mr. Copley, and not whatever that was that we found on the MilViz RedBull version.

The flooding issues that are very apparent on the previous release, must also be corrected. It's an outstanding model, with excellent possibilities. Please, PLEASE give us these benefits, and the longevity will excel the previous release, which I found lacking significantly in those areas. ( I reverted back to flying the FSD version )

- Joseph

[Mach3DS]

Agreed. One thing to note about the RB version, it lacks the turbos.

[roger-wilco-66]

Now that it works in P3Dv2.4, I really enjoy the FSD P38 again. What a great 3d model!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0skkam7xu8zz8r/AADlImnsn2LpZrokyOZC5tsTa/JFAR%20Scenery/jfar-earth-revetment.png?dl=1

[c87]

Roger-Wilco, what scenery is that? It looks terrific! A perfect setting for that P-38.

[roger-wilco-66]

C87, that's a scenery project I'm working on, see

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?90619-WIP-Joint-Forces-Air-Race-1944-(JFAR)-for-P3D


Cheers,
Mark

[dougal]

I'm a little confused:dizzy: I have both the FSD and Milviz P38s (and yes the Milviz version gives me serious performance issues).

We're not all 'in the loop' so to speak. Who is 'Kat'? And so thus which developer is doing this new one?

[Dimus]

"Kat" is the representative/spokesperson for Milviz. The new version of "period" P-38L is being developed by Milviz.

Having had the privilege to be involved in testing the "modern" version, and having thoroughly enjoyed the process, I must say I am impatiently looking forward to this one.

[dougal]

"Kat" is the representative/spokesperson for Milviz. The new version of "period" P-38L is being developed by Milviz.

Having had the privilege to be involved in testing the "modern" version, and having thoroughly enjoyed the process, I must say I am impatiently looking forward to this one.

Thanks for clarifying;-)
I absolutely LOVE the Milviz one I have. So much so, it sort of stops me flying the FSD version. I just wish it was easier on my system. I hope the new one will be;-)

[Roger]

I bought the Milviz P-38 Restored on sale at 13$ as that was a great price for such an aircraft!
However for the first time since I bought my new pc, I have ORBX ground textures going blurry and not close to the ground, but at 20000'!
Lovely aircraft but something in it's construction is a frame eater.

[dougal]

So Kat, now i know who you are, stunning work on the last one, but hope you're listening:jump:

[Katoun]

Hi,

Part of the reason that the new P-38 is slow on certain systems is the usage of the default GPS. If you use the RXP gauges, you should not have this issue.

That said, we are, in time, going to remake all of our products such that they allow for RXP, F1 and Mindstar avionics. All dependent upon whether (or which) the product in question allows for it. I.e. the King Air will not be using RXP, F1 or Mindstar but the P-38 might well do so.

The P-38L has no glass and is therefore not going to cause any FPS.

Thank you.

Kat

[windquest]

Hey Kat,
Just wondered if you could give us any information on the new release?
Henry