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Panther_99FS
August 9th, 2014, 21:52
"I know Tony could see him. I know how you can see out of these cars. When Tony got close to him, he hit the throttle. When you hit a throttle on a sprint car, the car sets sideways. It set sideways, the right rear tire hit Kevin, Kevin was sucked underneath and was stuck under it for a second or two and then it threw him about 50 yards."


http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/police-investigating-sprint-car-incident-involving-three-time-nascar-champion-tony-stewart-081014

stansdds
August 10th, 2014, 03:45
Tony is known to have a hot temper and to sometimes do stupid things when he is really angry. It certainly sounds like he went way too far this time. It will be interesting to see if he shows up today at Watkins Glen. If he does, the media will surely be all over him.

Daveroo
August 10th, 2014, 03:53
i was reading all the opinions at the bottom of the link page from panther,everyone keeps saying it was just a racing thing,i agree that Ward should have just stayed in his car,it was stupid of him,but it was pretty dogone stupid of Stewart to burp the throttle at him..people,including the local sheriff,are saying it wasnt intentional..but it cant be "just a racing accident",tony should have kept to an idle and gone past him ..ignored him if you will...but tony is a hothead..so he wanted to let the kid know who the boss was..so he INTENTIONALLY burped the throttle to make the kid jump back..yes no one has said that that is what he had done..and i wasnt there...but i have been around racing pretty much all my life and it know that drivers do it constantly,tony could have made a much better decision,just ignored the kid..

1:tony knew the kid was on track and waving his arms,,dont blow smoke up my butt and tell me he couldnt see him.
@:he ,tony,should have just driving past him
3: he knowingly hit the throttle to scare him

4: a 20 year old man is now dead and it was tony who hit him,it was avoidable,and i think tony needs to be punished for his actions...but i know they will just leave him be.

Terry
August 10th, 2014, 05:10
Of course the press has already blown it it out of proportion, but it was just an avoidable accident. The kid should have stayed in his car and Tony should not have goosed the engine.

Panther_99FS
August 10th, 2014, 07:11
The video is still on YouTube.
The tough thing for investigators is going to be working through why Stewart's car was the only that had a clear throttle acceleration while passing the driver - whereas the other cars that passed the driver were still moving at reduced speed.

joe bob
August 10th, 2014, 07:15
"Auto racing is a dangerous sport," he said. "I think it was just an unfortunate set of circumstances that created a tragic situation."


to be blunt, ANY driver who decides to remonstrate standing anywhere on the circuit with another while cars are traveling around the circuit is not playing with a full deck!




I believe that first statement to be true, but could not disagree more with the second.
Any one who is around racing, short track racing in particular, probably sees guys get out and do just what that kid did at least every other race. It happens, it is stupid, people do stupid things when jacked up on adrenalin and anger.
I have no doubt Stewart saw him, I have no doubt Stewart expected to see him on the next lap.

I have no doubt Tony never meant to hurt anyone, he just wanted to scare the guy or I could even believe that he was having fun Tony Stewart style, but still, he hit him and he is responsible for his actions, this is not one of them racing deals.
I don't think Nascar has any business with this, I think the sprint car body does, though with his stature in that sport nothing will happen.
I don't think Stewart will be saying it is one of them racing deals, privately if not publicly. I would think he never gets in a car again where he doesn't think of that moment and what he could have done differently. I hope he publicly takes responsibility for his part in this.
I don't think it is a criminal matter but certainly do think there is a responsibility on Stewarts part. For every driver from the Saturday night dirt track racers to Nascar to see him take responsibility for his part in this would be the only good thing to come of this.
Hopefully it will be in the back of some drivers mind and he will decide not to risk being a part of that tragic chain of events whether it is getting out of a car in anger or speaking with your throttle.

Sascha66
August 10th, 2014, 07:41
Is there such a thing as reckless driving on a racetrack? I believe that's what would be slapped on Mr. Stewart on an ordinary road - I don't think anyone could go as far and say that was intentional homicide but it was definitely reckless. A driver as experienced as Tony Stewart should know better. Especially as the other driver was just an inexperienced kid compared to Stewart.

EasyEd
August 10th, 2014, 15:06
Hey All,

What a tragic accident. So tragic for the family of a 20 year-old racer and tragic for the career of a two time NASCAR champion. A bit more than just a racin deal I think. While I dont for one minute think Tony intended for this to happen there is still such a thing as negligence and a charge called manslaughter (or maybe wrongful death). He will be sued no matter what.

-Ed-

Panther_99FS
August 10th, 2014, 17:24
EasyEd,
There's a chance that you might be 100% correct on all accounts....

Daveroo
August 10th, 2014, 19:15
i know most of ya never pay much attention to what i type,but i must say that after seeing the entire video,the ward kid did a really dumb thing,he should have never gone down that low into oncoming cars llike that,id like to see local tracks put up a large screen video monitor and show that video..and then have a talk with drivers and crews,during the pit meeting i mean.

Panther_99FS
August 10th, 2014, 22:35
I can't help but wonder if it had been any less known 'Saturday Night Sprinter' would we even have heard about it?
'Media Beat Up' springs to mind.
:dizzy:

I think "yes" in this case. To the best of my memory, no other driver has been killed in this fashion...

stansdds
August 11th, 2014, 01:53
Hey All,

What a tragic accident. So tragic for the family of a 20 year-old racer and tragic for the career of a two time NASCAR champion. A bit more than just a racin deal I think. While I dont for one minute think Tony intended for this to happen there is still such a thing as negligence and a charge called manslaughter (or maybe wrongful death). He will be sued no matter what.

-Ed-

I agree 100%.

Ferry_vO
August 11th, 2014, 03:57
Is there such a thing as reckless driving on a racetrack?

Yes there is. Even on a race tracks certain rules apply! From what I've read a full course yellow was applied and other drivers seemed to slow down at the accident scene, while (According to witnesses) Mr. Stewart accelerated causing his car to go sideways.
I have no doubt he would never done that would he have known the outcome but now he has to live with the consequences. From what I've seen on youtube Tony has quite a history of fights on and off the track which may very well work again him in an investigation.

Panther_99FS
August 11th, 2014, 18:26
New information
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/08/11/family-dead-racer-rips-into-tony-stewart/?intcmp=obnetwork

Panther_99FS
September 16th, 2014, 16:58
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/da-to-submit-evidence-to-grand-jury-on-tony-stewart-kevin-ward-jr-investigation-091614

EasyEd
September 16th, 2014, 17:30
Hey All,

Nothing to say - let the law take it's course. Times change - it isn't the 50s, 60s or 70s anymore. Today every death requires accountability and must be made meaningful...

-Ed-

Naismith
September 16th, 2014, 22:34
I'm surprised he allowed to race whilst still under investigation. If it were a cop or a doctor accused of malpractice, they would be suspended. Everything these days is liability based. Imagine the ramifications and finger pointing if he were to have another incident.

Panther_99FS
September 17th, 2014, 04:03
I'm surprised he allowed to race whilst still under investigation. If it were a cop or a doctor accused of malpractice, they would be suspended. Everything these days is liability based. Imagine the ramifications and finger pointing if he were to have another incident.

Excellent point!
Now also factor in what's going on in the NFL....:pop4:

stansdds
September 18th, 2014, 02:00
I am thinking that NASCAR does not feel that they have any control over him and his participation in NASCAR since the accident did not occur in a NASCAR sanctioned event. We will see what happens with the grand jury and if they decide that criminal charges are appropriate.

Terry
September 24th, 2014, 12:20
Cleared by the grand jury, now comes the civil suits by the parents even though their son was on dope.

stansdds
September 24th, 2014, 13:37
Yep, now it comes down to money.

Panther_99FS
September 24th, 2014, 16:05
Cleared by the grand jury, now comes the civil suits by the parents even though their son was on dope.

Enough to impair his judgement might make it tough for the civil suits...
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/nascar-driver-tony-stewart-won-t-be-charged-in-death-of-kevin-ward-jr-092414