Carenado Seneca V released

[pilottj]

Hey Guys,

Carenado has finished their Seneca V.

http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php?accion=product&correl=121

Cheers
TJ

[Roger]

Thanks for the hu TJ!

[dvj]

They really do need to change the pilot and co-pilot figures.

[b52bob]

I see their prices going up up up. Now no longer affordable to me.

[lownslo]

I see their prices going up up up.

+1 These are the same folks who claim to not support the F1 GTN gauges in the future, are not always keen on fixing their errors, yet are getting closer to asking A2A or Real Air prices. Go figure...

Greg

[MCDesigns]

Thanks for the HU. logged a ton of hours in the old FS9 FSD Seneca, will have to check this one out.

Man I feel bad for carenado, every time they release an aircraft it's mostly negativity on the boards, they don't have the systems depth the hardcore users demand and in trying to make them happy, they alienate the old school users, can't win for losing.

[wombat666]

+1 These are the same folks who claim to not support the F1 GTN gauges in the future, are not always keen on fixing their errors, yet are getting closer to asking A2A or Real Air prices. Go figure...

Greg

But at least the are consistent in their content and feel it is not necessary to turn out things with bombs and guns as a prerequisite.
Never had any difficulty with updates or patches and I'll take what they produce with pleasure.
:encouragement:

[expat]

They fill an important need in the GA space and do it well. Looking forward to their PC-12.

[Sieggie]

The photo gallery shows a HUD but the text has no mention of it. Does anyone know if it is a working HUD or just eye candy?

Dave

[mgchrist5]

The photo gallery shows a HUD but the text has no mention of it. Does anyone know if it is a working HUD or just eye candy?

Sieggie,
I think what you're seeing is actually the windshield hot plate, not a HUD. It's used for windscreen heating/deicing.

I'm actually pretty tempted by this Seneca. I'm more of a 'systems' fan, but Carenado certainly does make some beautiful-looking FSX planes. I'll probably wait it out until I see some reviews....or maybe when the Christmas sales roll around. Not that far away!

[CODY]

The photo gallery shows a HUD but the text has no mention of it. Does anyone know if it is a working HUD or just eye candy?

Dave
10801
http://www.pilotfriend.com/safe/safety/icing_conditions.htm

[clmooring]

I have really enjoyed their commander 114 model. And I guess I add reality xp to many models including real air. I am wondering/considering buying a2a accufeel and using it with either carenado's new Seneca or the mirage 350. And of course the commander.

[UnknownGuest12]

Really don´t care about systems, never wanted them to be even close to real. Never wanted to be a pilot, co-pilot, navigator, flight enginner, etc, etc, years of training...

Carendo products, think they are really very good, quite happy with the ones I own

Regards

[FentiFlier1]

I have really enjoyed their commander 114 model. And I guess I add reality xp to many models including real air. I am wondering/considering buying a2a accufeel and using it with either carenado's new Seneca or the mirage 350. And of course the commander.


Accufeel does miracles for Carenado planes, and most of the others in fact. One of the best addons. I recommend it!

By the way, in defence of Carenado, their latest stuff is very nice indeed and they're continuously improving.

Owen.

[lownslo]

...every time they release an aircraft it's mostly negativity on the boards, they don't have the systems depth the hardcore users demand and in trying to make them happy, they alienate the old school users, can't win for losing.

While I'll agree that Carenado doesn't have the systems depth to satisfy the hardcore users (all of their glass cockpits punish even the fastest system out there today), for me it goes no further than value. Quite simply, their prices don't bring value to the buyer. This latest offering is within a couple $ of what the Real Air Duke v2.0 costs... the latter hands down offers much better value. The last Carenado products that brought me value were the 337 ($20 at Fry's, then I added all the community tweaks to make it a great add-on) and the 185 ($9 on sale). Carenado's best business move has been Alabeo. Some nice aircraft at good prices (have the 195 and Pipersport and enjoy them both... a little over $40 for the pair).

Having said that, I'm sure some folks will want to jump on the Seneca (and that's OK... we each get to decide how we spend our money).

Cheers,

Greg

[Cirrus N210MS]

Video i created for the new Seneca and yes i really Like it!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXyaq8FzaOw

[Cirrus N210MS]

Video 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WZK-Bphgs

[MCDesigns]

While I'll agree that Carenado doesn't have the systems depth to satisfy the hardcore users (all of their glass cockpits punish even the fastest system out there today), for me it goes no further than value. Quite simply, their prices don't bring value to the buyer. This latest offering is within a couple $ of what the Real Air Duke v2.0 costs... the latter hands down offers much better value. The last Carenado products that brought me value were the 337 ($20 at Fry's, then I added all the community tweaks to make it a great add-on) and the 185 ($9 on sale). Carenado's best business move has been Alabeo. Some nice aircraft at good prices (have the 195 and Pipersport and enjoy them both... a little over $40 for the pair).

Having said that, I'm sure some folks will want to jump on the Seneca (and that's OK... we each get to decide how we spend our money).

Cheers,

Greg

Greg, I understand and I am glad you placed that last part in your post, because we each have that line that defines what is a "value" for each of us. As a modeler and having done a few aircraft of my own, it is just as much work (lots!) to get to just the basic aircraft on either the Duke or the Seneca, it's all polygons and textures at this point, so I don't compare prices with features. besides with all the sales we have in this community, everything goes on sale sooner or later, LOL.

Your first point it what gets to me. I could care less about glass and don't want the performance hit, I wish they would offer a non glass option, even if unrealistic. Would make me happy as I just enjoy the quality modeling and textures more than the systems. In a perfect world, carenado would produce the model and RealAir would do the systems, LOL.

[b52bob]

While I'll agree that Carenado doesn't have the systems depth to satisfy the hardcore users (all of their glass cockpits punish even the fastest system out there today), for me it goes no further than value. Quite simply, their prices don't bring value to the buyer. This latest offering is within a couple $ of what the Real Air Duke v2.0 costs... the latter hands down offers much better value. The last Carenado products that brought me value were the 337 ($20 at Fry's, then I added all the community tweaks to make it a great add-on) and the 185 ($9 on sale). Carenado's best business move has been Alabeo. Some nice aircraft at good prices (have the 195 and Pipersport and enjoy them both... a little over $40 for the pair).

Having said that, I'm sure some folks will want to jump on the Seneca (and that's OK... we each get to decide how we spend our money).

Cheers,

Greg

Although I said that Carenado has priced me out of their market, I just want to say their aircraft are great.....not a2a great, but all good. As a senior on fixed income and a wife who watches what I spend, I can afford Alabeo (also great stuff) or wait for a sale.

[Portia911]

In a perfect world, carenado would produce the model and RealAir would do the systems, LOL.

You can get a fair way down that path of you own and swap in the (Rob Young) fdx files from the Just Flight (Flying Club) Seneca II, into the Carenado Seneca II. May not be perfect, but its a nice combo if you like the earlier Seneca.