AS RF101C Voodoo panel

[Jafo]

After the PhantomII and Demon panels for the old AS planes....I got into the CF101B, F101C, and ultimately the RF101C Voodoo panels for the AS vers.

Here's the results of the first 2...
Before...
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...and after...in 1680x1050 res...
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The 'c'...before...
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...and after...again 1680x1050...
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Now, with the RF101C ....I'm stuck with a deficit of decent images [the others were a doddle due to good sources]

Driving me bonkers finding something even half-decent....best so far is...

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...whose res is crap...and details fuzzy...even gauge type and style is iffy.

Any help out there would be appreciated....then I could upload them all, and yes, the VCs are changed to 'suit' ...;)

[ZsoltB]

:applause:

[DaveQ]

Thanks Jafo, brilliant work. The Voodoo has always been one of my favourites since I was boy in the '50's, and the AS pits were always a bit weak compared with more up-to-date offerings. Looking forward to these though!

Will have a look for some material on the RF when I can.

DaveQ

[Jafo]

Thanks, Dave....any help will be great...;)

Meanwhile, I managed to 'do my own' LABS gauge for the 101C .... not sure if it's really displaying what it is supposed to...but it does 'stuff' and looks the part....graphics are from a 100 photo so close enough to get away with....and it means I'm not using a gau.

10221 ...now if I can just find a good pic of the Fuel gauge to know what it's actually doing I'll make one of those too. The one in the pic is a ring-in ...;)

Here's what it should be....10222

[Jafo]

Oh well....solved the fuel gauge issue with some 'extrapolation'....
Made sense of the inner numbers...still no clue what the outer ones are...but coded it to suit the inners...;)

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Now...
...back to that darn RF.....

[Wings of Gold]

Wonderful work Jafo! My CF-101 desperately needs your new pit. Bill

[odourboy]

Wonderful work Jafo! My CF-101 desperately needs your new pit. Bill
+1 (Not Bill)

[Bjoern]

Made sense of the inner numbers...still no clue what the outer ones are...but coded it to suit the inners...;)


If there's a selector button: Button not pressed = internal tanks on inner scale, button pressed = droptanks on outer scale (or the other way around)?

[Jafo]

If there's a selector button: Button not pressed = internal tanks on inner scale, button pressed = droptanks on outer scale (or the other way around)?

I was thinking that....except there's no button adjacent. I've a feeling it might be simply different units....gallons vs pounds....maybe.
I think the inner reads to 14,600 lbs...;)

Edit....
am going with the pic I have [unless something comes along that's better]...and will just try to clean it up as much as I can...here's the RF with eons yet to go...;)

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[Jafo]

I'm slowly getting there....the hole is the f16 radar...it's a gau so needs to be loaded/approved...which isn't happening when I'm modding in-flight...would you believe screencap no. 187....? ....;)
Anyway...only bit 'pinched' from the original AS 2D is the fire-warning panel [top-right] ...the rest is a rework from that ONE photo.
What I need is details re the weapons panel bottom left...so that bit too can be made 'clearer'...and also whether the actual panel hood is quite so weird to the left and right sides...;)

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[Jafo]

About as far as I can go....pretty happy with most of it...pinched some bits from other 101 vers [and a bit from an F4]...
If I find some more references I may be able to go further...;)
Now for the VC....

Here's the 2D.

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And how it used to be....

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[Jafo]

Side-step from the Voodoos.....

Early days...;)

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[usafvet]

Beautiful work Jafo, loved the F-4(s) pits. Any chance of you working your magic on the RF/F-8 Crusader by AS? Just a question....

[Jafo]

Beautiful work Jafo, loved the F-4(s) pits. Any chance of you working your magic on the RF/F-8 Crusader by AS? Just a question....
F8's a possible....again the vintage I kinda like...;)
Meanwhile....still 'resting' from the Voodoos....and getting into the TSR2.
I need to dig up more info on specific gauges and ideally what button really does what. The original is now converting to 1680 wide...but the original gauges are a little too 2-dimensional...;)
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[Jafo]

Haven't found much....really need a definitive listing of what's what....

Here's where it's at.... at least it has a legit stick .... whacked in the ARS4 radar....the popup control panel pops over the Annunciator....nice and big.

VC Hud bg is a 'mirror'...not transparent...seems reacting to a light fx.

Might just throw some gauge and glass reflections in and leave it 'til I can get more info...;)

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[dhazelgrove]

TSR2 information here (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tsr2+cockpit&tbm=isch&imgil=NQ_iT06A9NZsFM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252F encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9 GcRNp9PdDWj19SR69N6Teem24MA9q0LjqNK90UClguJnqGhpUX 1f%253B800%253B651%253BwzNtAUkIBbnjgM%253Bhttp%252 53A%25252F%25252Fwww.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk%25252Ftsr2%25252Fwalkaround.php&source=iu&usg=__fiVw4ArsLt776ale-J-CC3rgpaE%3D&sa=X&ei=WjnNU-2pNK-h7Aa2q4G4Cw&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA&biw=1536&bih=819#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Z3IMecWX3Hxz4M%253A%3B5fQ6b4n0R3sQFM%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fwww.flight-manuals-on-cd.com%252FTSR2cockpit.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fww w.flight-manuals-on-cd.com%252FTSR2.html%3B201%3B284), but you've probably already got this.

Dave

[Jafo]

TSR2 information here (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tsr2+cockpit&tbm=isch&imgil=NQ_iT06A9NZsFM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252F encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9 GcRNp9PdDWj19SR69N6Teem24MA9q0LjqNK90UClguJnqGhpUX 1f%253B800%253B651%253BwzNtAUkIBbnjgM%253Bhttp%252 53A%25252F%25252Fwww.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk%25252Ftsr2%25252Fwalkaround.php&source=iu&usg=__fiVw4ArsLt776ale-J-CC3rgpaE%3D&sa=X&ei=WjnNU-2pNK-h7Aa2q4G4Cw&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA&biw=1536&bih=819#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Z3IMecWX3Hxz4M%253A%3B5fQ6b4n0R3sQFM%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fwww.flight-manuals-on-cd.com%252FTSR2cockpit.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fww w.flight-manuals-on-cd.com%252FTSR2.html%3B201%3B284), but you've probably already got this.

Dave
Haven't got the CD, no. If I get eager I may have to though....and the book by Damien Burke. All I probably need is that panel drawing listing it all...;)

[expat]

Jafo,

Would you ever consider upgrading a civil aircraft - though this one also has a military variant? It's the IRIS "Easter Eggs" Bombardier Sentinel/Global Express (native FSX) released last year. Only decent VC for it is from he default FSX CJ. I pimped it with some various gauges and some modded vc lighting but still I find the panel background bitmaps kind of dull (nowhere near as sharp as the ones for the default 737-800, by way of comparison). The warning lights and overhead in particular need sharpening up. Also be cool to working FMC's as the "rojas" 737 vc's do (check over at simviation).

expat

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[Jafo]

expat...hi...
Gotta say 'eek' to glass cockpits. Invariably the xml is too long/complex to fathom. [for me].
Normal steam gauges tend to be a product of their size [created size ] ....and thus clarity...or whether they may be muddied by alphas, shadows etc coded in. I haven't got my head around how some gauges have day and night graphics...and some don't ...and what that really means to their outcome....quality-wise...but I imagine some of it may be legacy work from older sims.

Each panel I mess with...I get more ideas [and clues]....and ...at my current rate of enlightenment I expect to be 'pretty good' at it around an hour or two AFTER I shuffle off this mortal coil....;)

[expat]

Jafo,

Am really enjoying your very good - and fast - work on all the military panels and gauges. In the case of the GEX I have only an interest in doing something with the panel background bitmaps rather than the gauges. Being a useless twit at painting I can get as far as some crude GIMP functions but mostly MS Paint (LOL) and have had bad results trying to "repaint" a vc panel background bitmap in the past (very yucky .. ). Was wondering if you had any tips or techniques on how to sharpen up the resolution of the backgrounds the way others here have done in the past with different aircraft.

expat

[harrybasset]

Is it possible to download the F-101 panel/s please?

[Bjoern]

Expat:
Putting the Honeywell FMS gauges into the VC would require editing the model, which can't be done that easily.

You can, however, merge the exterior model with the Schwertfeger/Leaming rendition of the Global Express, which supports the FMS. It's gaugeset should even be quite a bit more comprehensive than the default CRJ's.
globalexpressxrs_112109.zip (Avsim)

[Jafo]

Is it possible to download the F-101 panel/s please?
It will be...
I'm just in the throes of getting them all setup for upload....it'll be in 2 parts....as are the AS models....;)

[Jafo]

First of 2 has been uploaded here....
...for the AS CF-101B...;)

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Next will be the 2 panels for the 101C and RF101C [the other AS set]...;)

[Jafo]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd....

Just uploaded the F101C and RF101C panel set here.

Appy Polly Logies for the bit-wonky RF ..... done from just one photo...so more arse than class...;)

Here's the 'C'

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and here's the 'RF'

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Had to 'cheat' on some details. If I ever find more references I'll revisit.

Next in the firing line may be the F8 .....while the TSR2 gets sat on and thunk about...;)

[Jafo]

Sigh....the eternal quest...good panel pics...now the Crusader is being recalcitrant...
Got info on 'what' gauges and where...but not a good square-on [or close to] photo...;)

[Jafo]

Having a go at a different tack...
This is what happens when you start with a 1680 F105 Thud panel and add the F8 one to it.....gauges are still for 1024...but this trick means I 'might' be able to use my existing opening Thud canopy and mirrors, reflections, etc.....though I'd need to put the canopy pull-handle on the canopy...not the screen...;)

Might be better to just find a better image and do it all from scratch ...like the others...;)

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Got the folded map of Vietnam already though...;)

[Jafo]

I went another way....had a low-res but fairly square-on photo...with a bit of swearing...including re-attaching some of the bezels...it might work OK...

....obviously early days...still gotta get some better-matched gauges....

10675 ...and turn the radar housing into a mask....and make the surrounds less 105 and more 8 ...;)

[Jafo]

The advantage of adapting the 105.... I now have mirrors, canopy and even reflected mirrors all functioning as with my 105... and the first mask is done sothe gauges look 'inserted'.
More to do...gotta get a better ATT and pull the bezel off the RALT...

10692 ....and put one around the radar....;)

[gaucho_59]

The advantage of adapting the 105.... I now have mirrors, canopy and even reflected mirrors all functioning as with my 105... and the first mask is done sothe gauges look 'inserted'.
More to do...gotta get a better ATT and pull the bezel off the RALT...

10692 ....and put one around the radar....;)


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A quality looking panel.... Compliments!

G.

[Jafo]

Mostly happy with the gauges...now for the warning lights...currently roughed-in...;)

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Then to cleanup the panel under the ATT and pop in the stick...;)

[Jafo]

Lights as close to original functions/locations as poss. Did a new set of Gear indicators to match correct locations. Stick's in...it's a Thud one...till I find a good F8 one to use...Now gotta relocate the knob for the ILS...and improve the sides....[never ends]...;)

10747....and the canopy eject handle....and the screen and gauge glass....and switches...probably need a few of those....

[delta_lima]

Darn you Jafo ... bad enough that I had to ignore these lovely 2d panels on the Phantom and Voodoo (they're streteched on my 4:3 screen), but how am I going to ignore it on this lovely beauty? :pop4:

You're really pushing me to buy a widescreen format monitor, aren't you? If my kids can't eat next month, it's on you, mate! :biggrin-new:

Seriously - lovely work. Hope you can do something with the VC texturing - the canopy rails are now a bit dated. This is a lovely bird, looking forward to what you can do with it.

BTW, for the newbs, the AS/V F-8 model in question was recently released as an FS9 freeware model, then subsequently repackaged as an FSX-compatible portover, completely with some great cockpit, repaint, and .air additions here: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?78871-Alphasim-Virtavia-F-8-Crusader-for-FSX-zip. A massive body of work to bring the F-8 to FSX.

I think Pam (Warchild's) FDE fixes are in another file - I can't remember where it was posted - but anyway, this is the benchmark from which Jafo is working.

dl

[Jafo]

Sorry, DL...but the kids don't really have to eat...every now and then is enough...;)

I've fixed the center console and the sides...to look closer to the 8. Now need to find a good pic of the stick...;)

[dhazelgrove]

Don't forget that there's also the RFN version of this fine bird - and it's also FSX-compatible.

Any news on the TSR2 panel?

Dave

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[Jafo]

Don't forget that there's also the RFN version of this fine bird - and it's also FSX-compatible.

Any news on the TSR2 panel?

Dave

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TSR2 is hangared until I can dig up some more detail info....

Meanwhile...the Crusader's coming along....but a few more things to do yet before the 2D is done....then to look at the VC...;)

Here's it at the mo...

10760 low fuel light is on...spent too much time updating while airborne...;)

[expat]

Awesome (again) stuff Jafo, the AS F-8 is my main test bed for navair stuff. Your screenies really transform and liven it up. A request, Don B. did a great job on the F-8 vc a while ago, and had the AP embedded in the VC, which was clickable and very convenient to have. Any chance of doing something like this (ie in addition to having an AP pop up)?

[expat]

Oh, missed you had started on the Gunfighter as the thread still says "Voodoo! - your fast work leads to you moving on to one or two different aircraft all in the same thread!

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upload image online (http://postimage.org/)

[Jafo]

Awesome (again) stuff Jafo, the AS F-8 is my main test bed for navair stuff. Your screenies really transform and liven it up. A request, Don B. did a great job on the F-8 vc a while ago, and had the AP embedded in the VC, which was clickable and very convenient to have. Any chance of doing something like this (ie in addition to having an AP pop up)?
Expat....I have the AP popping up just under the radar panel [boxy thing]...so it's innocuous....and can be left open...sorta win-win...;)

I need to get these gauges under glass before they rust....and add an electrics popup of some sort...
Here's where the AP is...

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...note the fuel gauge...when things get 'complicated' you get conflicts...looks like the RMI is the culprit....off to fix...;)

[Jafo]

Made an animated canopy release lever...though at the moment it ops the spoiler...got a popup for the radar config...and glass on the screen....and added an electrics popup. Now need to add some hud glass...and alter the saturation on a few bits...and get the canopy release to actually....release the canopy...;)

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Edit ....that wasn't hard....

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