Searching 2 Planes ( Me 109 T and Ju 87 C )

[ElsnerMarkus]

Hello all, i searching Ju 87 C ( Dive and Torpedobomber) and the Messerschmitt Me 109 T. Both Planes planned for Aircraft Carrier Graf Zeppelin.

Are this Planes



available for CFS 2?

And i search a mission with the Grad Zeppelin. Virtual Navy has a nice Modell from thios ship.

[Allen]

Here is the BF109T

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?76579-Bf-109T-released-by-1150-and-sc7500!

[Blood_Hawk23]

Good question. I think I've seen the 109 before. or atleast a paint for one.

What you want to search for are;

Messerschmitt BF 109T, BF 109T-0 and BF 109T-1. when the Graf Zeppelin was canceled the T-1s were striped of the arrestor gear and redesignated BF 109T-2.

The BF 109Ts are modified BF 109Es. These had increased wing span, folding wings, wing spoilers, arrester hook and catapult spools. The T-1 had the DB 601N engine. There were 10 T-0 and 60 T-1. The were later stripped of the arrestor gear and hook and redesignated as BF 109T-2.

The JU 87C had jettesonable gear, arrestor hook and Folding wings. They were changed to JU 87B-2s on the production line.


Here are some to look at.

http://www.thefreeflightsite.com/Aircraft_CFS2_2.htm

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/hago/hangar3.htm

JU 87B
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=54&id=14029

We can add the spoilers and Tail hook to the BF 109 and a tail hook to the JU 87. They will not be visable but will work.

Then the will need proper paint.

[Blood_Hawk23]

so we just need the JU 87.

[ElsnerMarkus]

so we just need the JU 87.

Where ca i found the Weapons for the 109 T?

in the DP file are this payload weapons:

PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only, Long Range
mount.0=wep_br_fuselage_carrier, 1, 0
mount.5=wep_kw_gr_300l-tank, 1, -1

[PAYLOAD.2]
; Payload = [2] 250K Bombs
mount.1=wep_kw_gr_250kg_bomb, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_kw_gr_250kg_bomb, 1, 0

[PAYLOAD.3]
; Payload = [4] 50Kg Bombst
mount.1=wep_german_sc50, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0
mount.3=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0
mount.4=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0

[PAYLOAD.4]
; Payload = [2] 21cm Wfr.Gr.21 Rockets
mount.1=wep_ge_wgr21_rocket, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_ge_wgr21_rocket, 1, 0

Where can i found the Weapon pack for this?

[Blood_Hawk23]

Have you read the readme.txt in the download. It should be in there. Start with that then lets us know if there are bad link or missing information.

[ElsnerMarkus]

Have you read the readme.txt in the download. It should be in there. Start with that then lets us know if there are bad link or missing information.


Yes, this is the readme text:

MESSERSCHMITT ME 109 T FIGHTER
FS 2004 MODEL
FSDS DRAWING AND TEXTURE BY JRLUCARINY

Messerschmitt Me 109 T fighter
The Messerschmitt Me 109T was the projected carrier version of the Me 109E model. About 70 planes of this version were build by Fieseler, several modifications had to be made to adapt these single seat fighters for the use on aircraft carriers:

T-0: 10 Me 109E-3 modified by Fieseler in 1939/40, Span enhanced to 11.06 meters, arrestor hook and catapult mountings. Those aircraft were planed to be used on the Graf Zeppelin and were later used by I/JG 77;
T-1: like T-0, 60 build by Fieseler and delivered to JG 5. Since the carrier was not completed, all planes were modified to T-2;
T-2: All equipment for carrier operations removed.

The first 10 aircraft were of the pre production Series (T-0), followed by 60 production aircraft of the T-1 series. When construction of the Graf Zeppelin was halted in 1940, further development of the Me 109 T was stopped, too. In late 1940 Fiesler was ordered to complete the 60 T-1 models but to remove all all carrier-equipment. The result were 60 aircraft of the now called T-2 series which were able to operate from short land airstrips.

The first aircraft were delivered in the beginning of 1941 and were used in Norway until the summer of 1942. The surviving aircraft were then transferred to the Helgoland, a small island in the North Sea, where they were used for point defense up to late 1944.

Dimensions

Length: 8,76 m
Span: 11,08 m
Height:2,60 m
Empty weight:2253 kg

Max weight: 3078 kg

Crew: 1

Weapons
MG 17 (7,92 mm): 2 (forward fuselage)
either MG 17 (7,92 mm): 2 (wing mounted)
or MG FF (20mm): 2 (wing mounted)

Engine: Daimler Benz DB 601N inverted V-piston engine
Engine performance: 1200 hp (895 kw)

Performance:
Max. Speed: 575 kph
Max. Range: 915 km (568 miles)
Max. Altitude:10500 m (34,450 ft)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Other airplanes in:
http://lucariny.sites.uol.com.br

Nov/2007

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Converted to CFS2 10/2012 by sc7500
DP, MDL, CFG and AIR files optimized for combat flight, weapons

Ownership and creative rights remain with JR Lucarinny

EDIT: I think its the VB Weapons pak,after install the Payload 3 works but the plane misses the other payload configurations.

[Allen]

Wow no links or name for the weapons....

My guess would be that the German Weapons by VB_Planes may have them or most of them.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=17&linkid=890

or the DB German Weapons by DBolt

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=17&linkid=17430

[Devildog73]

I think I have those weapons on my external. I am taking it with me on carryon with my laptop. I will look through it today and if I find them, I'll let you know.

If we are fortunate, the readme with the weapons may allow me to upload them to our library.

Standby,

DDog

[UncleTgt]

The "KW_###" weapons are from the weapons pack at Kawauso Hermitage

http://www.kawausohermitage.sakura.ne.jp/en/index_en.html

:running:

[ElsnerMarkus]

Wow no links or name for the weapons....

My guess would be that the German Weapons by VB_Planes may have them or most of them.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=17&linkid=890

or the DB German Weapons by DBolt

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=17&linkid=17430

in the readme is no link for weapon pack sry

@ Ungle GT thank you for the help.

[dvslats]

Hi ElsnerMarkus,

A project has had me going through many Weapons Packages. These are fresh in my memory
UncleTgt has the answer for the KW, Allen for the wep_german, here are the others.

PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only, Long Range
mount.0=wep_br_fuselage_carrier, 1, 0 <-----GroundCrew British Weapons
mount.5=wep_kw_gr_300l-tank, 1, -1

[PAYLOAD.2]
; Payload = [2] 250K Bombs
mount.1=wep_kw_gr_250kg_bomb, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_kw_gr_250kg_bomb, 1, 0

[PAYLOAD.3]
; Payload = [4] 50Kg Bombst
mount.1=wep_german_sc50, 1, -1
mount.2=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0 <------All VB German Weapons
mount.3=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0
mount.4=wep_german_sc50, 1, 0

[PAYLOAD.4]
; Payload = [2] 21cm Wfr.Gr.21 Rockets
mount.1=wep_ge_wgr21_rocket, 1, -1 <---------SimTech Fw-190 Dora Weapons Pak
mount.2=wep_ge_wgr21_rocket, 1, 0


If you can not locate any of these, send me a PM.

Dave