JF Canberra PR9 is out

[YoYo]

http://www.justflight.com/product/canberra-pr9-download

I logged and now I see download file - 442 Mb. Im downloading now :running: !

[hae5904]

Yep me too......downloaded within 3 minutes.

Cheers

[Roger]

Me too...but I haven't read the manual yet :bee:

[dhazelgrove]

Got it. Tried it.
I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the frame rate hit of this aircraft.

Dave

[Martyn]

Got it. Tried it.
I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the frame rate hit of this aircraft.

Dave

I get 40 FPS on my ultrabook with onboard GPU, and anywhere from 70 to 100 FPS on my work PC (i7, 1GB GPU, 8GB RAM).

Please drop us a support mail if you are encountering performance issues.

Martyn

[ZsoltB]

Unfortunately 3GB RAM is not enough
I use windows XP 32bit op system
Unfortunately 'Canberra_Flight_Analysis.exe' tool CTD
I therefore can not activate nose wheel steering

Zsolt

[Martyn]

Unfortunately 3GB RAM is not enough
I use windows XP 32bit op system
Unfortunately 'Canberra_Flight_Analysis.exe' tool CTD
I therefore can not activate nose wheel steering

Zsolt

Hi Zsolt,

Please see my reply to your post on Facebook.

3GB should be sufficient, as posted above I am using it on an ultrabook with 2GB RAM.

Thanks
Martyn

[ZsoltB]

Hi Zsolt,Please see my reply to your post on Facebook.3GB should be sufficient, as posted above I am using it on an ultrabook with 2GB RAM.ThanksMartynHi Martyn,Yes,thank you!But,RAM 3x 1GB/400Mhz however...bad FPS... :-(

[Blackbird686]

I too would like to get some more feedback from anyone who has procured (and flown) this model. 442 Mb in installer format is ALOT!!! Seeing the phenomenal screenshots of the jet whilst still in development makes me wonder just how it would handle and behave on my gaming rig. It is an absolute beauty tho, from what I've seen.

BB686:US-flag:

[IanHenry]

The frame rates were never an issue during the testing of this model. I have always got a steady 30 fps (locked) on my prehistoric i7 920 computer.


Regards,
Ian.

[DaveWG]

After a (very) quick comparison, frame rates seem to be about the same as Dino's F14.

[Maury2008]

I find this plane unusable.
Installed and loaded in FSX:
Engines and systems on, to activate the cold & dark situation i need to click more times on the relative item and it only works sometimes after several attempts.
With all systems are turned off and no electrical power the landing lights are always on.
In any case, every time I try to take off FSX detects a collision with an object invisible!?
I have read the entire manual but can not find any explanation to these problems.

[YoYo]

VC is very good for me. Top class. Tested now in P3Dv2 and here fps looks ok for me, dont know in FSX.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/P3Dv2/Screenshot127696_zps20e42303.jpg~original

Only this smoke effect. Why is it grey?

[Martyn]

I find this plane unusable.
Installed and loaded in FSX:
Engines and systems on, to activate the cold & dark situation i need to click more times on the relative item and it only works sometimes after several attempts.
With all systems are turned off and no electrical power the landing lights are always on.
In any case, every time I try to take off FSX detects a collision with an object invisible!?
I have read the entire manual but can not find any explanation to these problems.

Please refer to this FAQ - http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/canberra-pr9#c0f58e7

The systems were tested thoroughly including the cold & dark mode activated using the power icon. Please note that you may encounter problems if you have modified your default flight (the flight that appears when you first select the FREE FLIGHT menu in FS). The aircraft is unlikely to get correct initialised so if you have modified it, please make sure to load up a default aircraft before then switching to the Canberra.

If you still get issues then drop the support team a mail.

Excellent pic YoYo!

[Ian Warren]

I simply fell in love with the cockpit
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/fnXYr.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/HM7kj.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/s6Jcu.jpg

[noddy]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/noddy1966/p9.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/noddy1966/media/p9.jpg.html)

[Ian Warren]

Nice one Andy :encouragement:
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/0hMcX.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/HGgf9.jpg
The JUST FLIGHT in-house design team have really lifted the bar - the whole package is supreme

[noddy]

A little gem for sure. The cockpit is a wonderful. :applause:

[RAS_JF]

Loving the pics, gents!

[strykerpsg]

Beautiful work Just Flight team. This one's on my short "to buy" list. Any chance of an US variant?

[flaviossa]

Can´t wait to get mine next month! Good job JF :encouragement:

[YoYo]

And 3 from P3D again:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/P3Dv2/Screenshot223327_zps488c77a1.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/P3Dv2/Screenshot186962_zpsf3deecbb.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/P3Dv2/Screenshot45842_zps71fe18d9.jpg~original

And I agree, she is a little harder for fps, not like deafault but near ok (but not a perfect).

[WarHorse47]

Got mine just before lunch. Had to wait until after I took with wife out for lunch before I could install and fly.

No problems with download or install in FSX. Just finished my first flight to familiarize myself with the panels, etc.

No problem with framerates. Did start to encounter an OOM after landing at KBFI (Boeing Field, ORBX PNW) while fiddling with external equipment animations.

Lots of fun.

[Roger]

Likewise no problems with frame rates (in FsX Dx10). Lovely model:applause:

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/19/Y2Ofx.jpg

[dvj]

And 3 from P3D again:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/P3Dv2/Screenshot223327_zps488c77a1.jpg~original



And I agree, she is a little harder for fps, not like deafault but near ok (but not a perfect).

Those shadows are enough to make me download P3D.

[ZsoltB]

Unfortunately, I still can not steer the nose wheel
The smoke is the wrong place to start is at the end of the wing does not seem to engines
After several attempts
Just differential brake is but faintly
Does not steer in the nose gear

[WarHorse47]

Thanks for the great Cranberries, JF. :ernaehrung004:

[noddy]

Those shadows are enough to make me download P3D.

Yep they do have a wow factor.

[Martyn]

Unfortunately, I still can not steer the nose wheel
The smoke is the wrong place to start is at the end of the wing does not seem to engines
After several attempts
Just differential brake is but faintly
Does not steer in the nose gear

Did you contact support? I am on holiday until Tuesday so can't check this for you, but the support team will get you sorted out asap.

[DaveWG]

Very nice model, well done :applause:
A couple of minor issues, but overall I'm very pleased with it.

[hae5904]

Zolt, for the nose wheel steering:

Change the 7th entry at contact points within the aircraft config file....it says 180.00, change it to 90 or 100.

Cheers,
Hank



Unfortunately, I still can not steer the nose wheel
The smoke is the wrong place to start is at the end of the wing does not seem to engines
After several attempts
Just differential brake is but faintly
Does not steer in the nose gear

[YoYo]

Do You have sometimes a crash (airplane crashed) on the empty airfield?

[RAS_JF]

Hi,
That's probably the ground equipment that you are running into. Rather than being parts of the model they are actual separate ground objects. Although they disappear they are actually still there. For the time being please turn off "allow collisions with other aircraft" and we'll hopefully have this sorted out in an update.

Thanks

[MDIvey]

Its a great model but could you provide a quick start guide / video for those of us who want the most simplified operation mode. I'm sure there will be many who will enjoy the depth of system modeling included but I just don't have the time to learn all that.

Matt

[RAS_JF]

Hi Matt,
We will have a look into that. In the meantime you can use the lightening bolt on the panel selector screen to get all the systems up and running.

4472

[MDIvey]

Managed to have a short flight using the above... it would be handy if the lightning switch turned off the wing tip flood lights but I eventually managed to work out how to get that done. Haven't managed to work out yet how to turn the light off located in the left mid wing and need to get to grips with trimming and auto pilot but I'll come back to that later when have I a bit more time. Thanks for your help. By way of feedback the 130 odd page manual is well written and laid out, but I still think some sort of quick start guide would be helpful to some users.

Matt

[YoYo]

Its a great model but could you provide a quick start guide / video for those of us who want the most simplified operation mode. I'm sure there will be many who will enjoy the depth of system modeling included but I just don't have the time to learn all that.

Matt

+1 Trening video will be nice (startup).

[WarHorse47]

Unfortunately, I still can not steer the nose wheel
The smoke is the wrong place to start is at the end of the wing does not seem to engines
After several attempts
Just differential brake is but faintly
Does not steer in the nose gearDid you try and change the steering mode through the configuration suite? I had the same issue until I did that. Look at page 149 of the manual.

[dvj]

Did you try and change the steering mode through the configuration suite? I had the same issue until I did that. Look at page 149 of the manual.

I have the same problem. The configuration suite change to the steering mode by clicking the hot spot on the panel -- did nothing. Just changed the contact point number 7 in the config file, let's see if that fixed it. If not, it's off to JF support. Strange these random bugs. BTW, Frames always above 32, max sliders, full FTX, REX, core i7 extreme, 32GB memory, GTX 780. Smooth as silk. Stunning visuals and sound.

[Alpha Two Zero]

Hi,
I can't get the Canberra to close down. I click the Lightning bolt Hatch opens the navigator front opens but the engines just keep spooling up.

[Martyn]

I have the same problem. The configuration suite change to the steering mode by clicking the hot spot on the panel -- did nothing. Just changed the contact point number 7 in the config file, let's see if that fixed it. If not, it's off to JF support. Strange these random bugs. BTW, Frames always above 32, max sliders, full FTX, REX, core i7 extreme, 32GB memory, GTX 780. Smooth as silk. Stunning visuals and sound.

Please note that the clickspot on the trim panel performs a different function to the options in the configuration tool. The clickspot simply allows you to use your joystick rudder axis to apply differential braking, it does not enable a direct-steer nosewheel like the tool does.

The manual covers this (in the section that covers the trim panel).

Edit - a customer has just noticed that the trim panel clickspots are incorrectly labelled (reversed) on the manual image. The nosewheel clickspot is the lower of the two.

[Martyn]

Hi,
I can't get the Canberra to close down. I click the Lightning bolt Hatch opens the navigator front opens but the engines just keep spooling up.

Please drop the support team a ticket and they'll look into it. If you have altered your default flight (that appears when you first select FREE FLIGHT in FSX) please make sure to tell them.

[dvj]

Please note that the clickspot on the trim panel performs a different function to the options in the configuration tool. The clickspot simply allows you to use your joystick rudder axis to apply differential braking, it does not enable a direct-steer nosewheel like the tool does.

The manual covers this (in the section that covers the trim panel).

Edit - a customer has just noticed that the trim panel clickspots are incorrectly labelled (reversed) on the manual image. The nosewheel clickspot is the lower of the two.

Changed the contact point to 90. nosewheel steering just fine now.

[YoYo]

Till now I fly C.Pr9 only in P3Dv2.1, Today install in FSX - wow great FPS here, stable 30 (blocked) in any condition. A little worse in P3D but like here shadows.
Just one question - if I have installed the model in X and in P3D - if I changed something in Analysis Tool I will do it for both sims?

Pic from M.FSX:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Screenshot21233_zps30db10be.jpg~original

[dvj]

Just incase anyone else see this. Cold start: Black smoke at end of wings, not aligned to engines.

[dvj]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/jpgleasonid/pr9_zps13922255.jpg~original

[TARPSBird]

Absolutely beautiful airplane. Running out of available memory about every other flight but that's my problem. I assume if I'm getting this error (see pic) the "Canberra_Flight_Analysis.exe" tool is not available to me...?

[WarHorse47]

Just incase anyone else see this. Cold start: Black smoke at end of wings, not aligned to engines.Yep.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2014-2-20_9-47-7-692_zpsab3f1657.jpg

Not sure what the starter smoke is aligned with.

[Timbohobo]

I just had to drop in here to say thats one damn fine looking VC

[noddy]

Lovely shots gents.

[YoYo]

And I noticed some of bugs in P3Dv2.1:

1/ A conventional slip ball is located below the HGU - doesnt work at all in P3D, in FSX yes:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Various/Nowy-1_zps8af2806d.jpg~original

2/ FM / Rudder problem. After the start rudder dosent work so its a very difficult to turn or do correction for example for landing. In FSX is ok.

3/ Too dark in P3D campared to FSX inside cocpit (red lights on):

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Various/th_Screenshot106844_zps4464a1a9.jpg (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/rafikst/media/Various/Screenshot106844_zps4464a1a9.jpg.html)

[DaveWG]

Yep.http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2014-2-20_9-47-7-692_zpsab3f1657.jpgNot sure what the starter smoke is aligned with.The smoke effects is aligned with the "virtual" engines defined in the aircraft.cfg. I assume they've been moved outward to give the FD the pronounced asymmetric effect when flying on one engine.

[ZsoltB]

Many bugs so for Pricing
Has a couple of days, but I still can not steering the airplane on the ground
The Canberra Flight Analysis Tool CTD !
The effects of smoke in the wrong place
In a word ..... :pop4:

[YoYo]

Many bugs so for Pricing
Has a couple of days, but I still can not steering the airplane on the ground
The Canberra Flight Analysis Tool CTD !
The effects of smoke in the wrong place
In a word ..... :pop4:

Canberra Flight Analysis Tool helps a lot for nose stering ( FAQ for this: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/canberra-pr9 ) - I havent any CTD of this tool in P3D and FSX but perhaps it needs two version. I installed Canberra for FSX and P3D and have only one (perhaps for the last installer) Canberra Flight Analysis Tool on Just Flight Folder in Star>Programms. For this kind of situation it must be two (or if I change something programm will do it for both Canberra version? Dont know yet...)

[hschuit]

Many bugs so for Pricing
Has a couple of days, but I still can not steering the airplane on the ground
The Canberra Flight Analysis Tool CTD !
The effects of smoke in the wrong place
In a word ..... :pop4:

Zsolt, you can fix the black cartridge startup smoke: In the aircraft.cfg, change the startup = fx_canb_start entry like this:

[EFFECTS]
wake = fx_wake
water = fx_spray
dirt = fx_tchdrt
concrete = fx_sparks
touchdown = fx_tchdwn_m,1
startup = fx_dummy

Thought I read somewhere the PR9 did not use starter cartridges, in the RAF they used AVPIN liquid. The civil Midair Canberra in the JF pack got electric starters.
The funny thing is the fx_canb_start.fx file is not included in the JF installer but it is used in the Flying Stations Canberra series, so I guess everyone who has those installed will see the black cartridge puffs.

[hae5904]

Zolt, change the 7th entry in contact points column 1, from 180.00 between 90 - 100.

I answered that a couple of posts before......




Many bugs so for Pricing
Has a couple of days, but I still can not steering the airplane on the ground
The Canberra Flight Analysis Tool CTD !
The effects of smoke in the wrong place
In a word ..... :pop4:

[Martyn]

Not sure that your list constitues 'many bugs' but as long as you have submitted a support ticket we'll be able to get things sorted out for you.

With regards to the start effect, I have no idea why you are seeing a cartridge start effect as that's not something we included. We'll look into that. The engines are not aligned to their location on the model for FDE reasons but that won't matter if you only have our custom effects.

[YoYo]

Just suggestion (not read manual yet). In the start I have always engines running on. Is it possible to add for this 2D panel: Cold & Dark function?

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Screenshot38987_zpse2fc6a9b.jpg (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/rafikst/media/Canberra%20PR9/Screenshot38987_zpse2fc6a9b.jpg.html)

Btw. Its not a screen of Me-262 !!! :adoration:

New shot:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Screenshot38747_zps0e281693.jpg~original

[Chris Sykes]

No problem with ground control last night for me, loads of breaking to turn.
Quite nippy for an oldie!

[Martyn]

Amazing pic YoYo!

The aircraft should load in a ready for takeoff state. Clicking the power icon should then set it to a cold and dark state.

[YoYo]

Amazing pic YoYo!

The aircraft should load in a ready for takeoff state. Clicking the power icon should then set it to a cold and dark state.

Ahhh ok! Good to know. The weekend before me so I promise - I will read the manual :D. Im impressed but some of gauge/tail - FM problems in P3D. Maybe this 2.1 did something wrong. In FSX looks like it works better.

[Chris Sykes]

Ive still got 2.0 installed so ill try it in that tonight or tomorrow and report...

[T6flyer]

I've yet to try mine, as my PC is currently down at Classic Air Force (a few yards from a Canberra), but I thought that a PR.9 started with very little smoke as had an avpin start rather than using the older cartridges?

Martin

[delta558]

I've no idea how that effect file reference has even ended up in there. However, it has and I have already emailed Steve about it. The PR9 in service was an Avpin start (which would create some smoke, not as much as the cartridge though). The aircraft modelled, however, is as XH134 currently is - converted to an electric start. So no smoke at all.

[WarHorse47]

I removed the black startup smoke by disabling the last entry of the [EFFECTS] section as follows:

//startup = fx_canb_start

Upon startup there are now just some whisps of pale smoke, but again they are not in the proper location. I believe this is due to the engine locations as set by the [GeneralEngineData] parameters which has them moved out about 15 feet from their original locations.

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type = 1
Engine.0 = 0.400, -35.200, 0.000 // was 0.400, -10.200, 0.000
Engine.1 = 0.400, 35.200, 0.000 // was 0.400, 10.200, 0.000

Not a big issue to me.

[delta558]

As mentioned previously, the engines are deliberately set within the fde at a point near the wingtips. That is the only way I have found so far to replicate the poor assymetric handling qualities of the aircraft.

[hschuit]

I removed the black startup smoke by disabling the last entry of the [EFFECTS] section as follows:

//startup = fx_canb_start

Upon startup there are now just some whisps of pale smoke, but again they are not in the proper location. I believe this is due to the engine locations as set by the [GeneralEngineData] parameters which has them moved out about 15 feet from their original locations.

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type = 1
Engine.0 = 0.400, -35.200, 0.000 // was 0.400, -10.200, 0.000
Engine.1 = 0.400, 35.200, 0.000 // was 0.400, 10.200, 0.000

Not a big issue to me.

Don't block it (I made the same mistake LOL), put in a dummy fx and you won't see smoke coming out of the wingtips and you don't mess up the FDE as explained by delta558: startup = fx_dummy

[WarHorse47]

As mentioned previously, the engines are deliberately set within the fde at a point near the wingtips. That is the only way I have found so far to replicate the poor assymetric handling qualities of the aircraft.Understood. I'm not messing with that.

As for the [EFFECTS] entry, I've added the startup = fx_dummy. Not sure what the correlation is with the FDE or the wingtip effects, but I'll take your word for it.

I'm really enjoying the heck out of this. :adoration: I took a night flight yesterday which was a little hairy on landing as I didn't have the landing lights figured out yet. I just finished my earlier morning dusk flight (as I finished my morning coffee) and learned some more features.

[delta558]

I think the landing lights are on the 'to do' list for possible improvements, something to do with a cone illuminating the ground better. Glad you're enjoying it!

[WarHorse47]

I think the landing lights are on the 'to do' list for possible improvements, something to do with a cone illuminating the ground better. Glad you're enjoying it!You probably already know this, but this is my experience with the landing lights.

When loading the Canberra the landing lights are in "Hi' mode and external lights are on. In this mode I tried a night landing and there was no illumination of the runway. The taxi lights provided a little more, but not much.

When I flew this morning at dusk, I noticed that the runway was illuminated when I switched the landing lights to "Low" mode. They did not illuminate the runway in "Hi" mode as experienced earlier.

Perhaps the "Hi" and "Low" modes are reversed??

[Javis]

Awesome model! Both inside and out! Congrats to the JF Canberra dev team !! :applause::applause::applause:

I can't seem to get the Canberra_Flight_Analysis proggy to work... Nore by clicking the icon in Programs/Just Flight/Canberra PR9 or clicking the exe file in JF_Canberra/Panel directly. Nothing happens.... Not addressed in the FAQ's...

Am i the only one ?...

Been flying it anyway. Great fun ! Thanks !! :encouragement:

[Ian Warren]

There just something not quite right .... :idea: A little more effort ! Real V Sim :adoration:
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/21/GIhHx.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/02/21/M87Gj.jpg

[delta_lima]

Just suggestion (not read manual yet). In the start I have always engines running on. Is it possible to add for this 2D panel: Cold & Dark function?


New shot:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Screenshot38747_zps0e281693.jpg~original

Love the vertical shots. Any more are welcome - would love some as my iPhone wallpaper!!

PC is packed away for at least a few months as part of a move ....

cheers,

[YoYo]

Thank You delta_lima! Agree - very nice model, top class external and interior. New way of JF model (sorry but never like to mutch this old models from Aeroplaneheaven like DC-6, Connie ect. too cartoon for me), but Canberra with this new team (?) looks so good : ))).

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_2_zps596288f7.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_1_zpsa8d540c9.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_3_zps17071655.jpg~original

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_4_zps2d9bed69.jpg~original

[Dumonceau]

Damn damn damn! About 1€ short on my paypal! Now I have to wait three working days before I can lay my hands on this beauty!!!

[DaveB]

You're not alone with the Flight Analysis problem Jan. When I click on it, I get this..#
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: canberra_flight_analysis.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 5304b90a
Problem Signature 04: System.Drawing
Problem Signature 05: 4.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 5073c7ec
Problem Signature 07: 79e
Problem Signature 08: 6c
Problem Signature 09: System.ArgumentException
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Read our privacy statement online:

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C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

I opened a ticket at JF shortly after downloading and George suggested I try running it from the panel folder itself but I'd already tried this. I've noticed a few oddities with switches and lights which may be related to the fact something is missing.. eg, up to date dot net files or similar. I dunno to be honest. This is a fresh install on a fresh install of Win7 Ultimate so anything is possible. Unfortunately, the error doesn't give any clues.. not that I can see.
Still.. I'm not downhearted. It's a smashing model and one of the few I have of this type that's a pleasure to hand fly;-)

ATB
Dave:-)

[WarHorse47]

I've been encountering another problem that I've reported to their support team, and thought I'd share it here.

Basically, I'm getting a Fatal Error message and FSX restart whenever I attempt to use one of the FSX Navigation tools.

I got the Fatal Error message whenever I attempted to load a save flight plan for flying (the Canberra). Just a few minutes ago I was on a flight to Spokane, WA with autopilot. When I called up the FSX map to verify an NDB frequency, I got a Fatal Error again when I closed out (cancelled) the map view.

I'm guessing that the GPS is conflicting with something, but don't know for sure. Other than that, this is a lot of fun to fly.

[Javis]

You're not alone with the Flight Analysis problem Jan. When I click on it, I get this..#

Thank you, Dave! In any case it's good to know i'm not the only one having a problem with it. Let's see what happens...

cheers,
jan

[WarHorse47]

Hate to mention this but I just tried the Flight Analysis Tool for the first time... It works just dandy for me.

Wonder why others are having problems with it?

[TARPSBird]

Hate to mention this but I just tried the Flight Analysis Tool for the first time... It works just dandy for me. Wonder why others are having problems with it?
In my case I think it's because I'm running Windows XP Home (32-bit) and the error prompt I get says it's "...not a valid Win32 application". I'd like to be able to use all the plane's features but I fixed the nose wheel steering by manually tweaking the cfg file. That's all I wanted to use the Flight Analysis tool for - when I found out I couldn't use it. :untroubled:

[Barfly]

No bugs noticed here...

This is a fun stick and rudder airplane, that requires a lot of rudder to control adverse yaw when rolling. Great for scenery observation at low altitude, in areas like Orbx Northern California... with it's bubble canopy offers a great view and you can cruise as low as 150 mph, or as fast as 450 if you need to get somewhere.

For landing you have positive roll control down to 110, then once aligned with the runway, you can slow further, flaring to about 90 before touchdown... it will land in 1000 ft if you're careful; 2500 ft runways are not too hard, so landing in many Orbx small airports is challenging but very doable. Very enjoyable to fly and sight see in, haven't looked too in depth at systems.

Ground steering control is fairly easy if you use differential power in addition to the castoring nose wheel.

[ZsoltB]

Pretty big problem is that the Canberra Flight Analysis Tool is not compatible with WinXP

:pop4:

[YoYo]

Pretty big problem is that the Canberra Flight Analysis Tool is not compatible with WinXP

:pop4:

Zsoltquack, maybe time to change an OS? Now, many games and addons too works only on Vista and more. I know, it isnt an easy decision but trust me, FSX and other games, simulators works better (and stable) on Win7 than on XP.
Many sims now use a DirectX 10/11... on IL-2 Cliffs of Dover, IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad, new incoming engine of DCS, P3D ect.

But for sure, here Win XP is OK as needed system: http://www.justflight.com/product/canberra-pr9-download .

[DaveWG]

I know some people who are having trouble with the tool are using Win7-64, so it's not limited to XP.Works fine for me though.

[Chris Sykes]

Odd as it worked on my Win7 64bit PC.

[dhazelgrove]

The tool also works fine under Win8.1, but I'm finding that the frame rate hit I have with this aircraft makes it unusable.

I have raised a ticket, but nothing has come of it.

Dave

[ZsoltB]

http://i.imgur.com/pMvYn7h.jpg

[DaveB]

Is that a trick of the shot angle or an incredibly small Vulcan??:cool:

ATB
DaveB:-)

[ZsoltB]

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[YoYo]

The Throttles are not working with my CH Pro Throttle.
Mike

?
Doesnt work on FSX settings? My CH Throttle Quadrant works fine, all levers.

[big-mike]

No,
throttles generally assigned to FSUIPC registered version.
Mike

PS.solved

[DaveB]

Thanks for that zsoltquak.. I have Wadders and the JY Vulcans so it's obviously a trick of the shot angle. Also.. I have 'aircraft cast shadows' enabled which would make a difference;-)

Mentioning shadows.. I also have aircraft casting shadows on themselves enabled and the PR9's wire AE casts a pretty awful shadow onto the model but that's by the by.
ATB
DaveB:-)

[delta558]

Mike,I'm fairly certain that the throttles are run through SimConnect because of systems and potential failure scenarios. From what I can gather, that means that you have to assign your throttle axes within FSX itself rather than through an external program such as FSUIPC.

[DaveWG]

I've got my throttles assigned via FSUIPC & they work fine for me.

[big-mike]

Mike,I'm fairly certain that the throttles are run through SimConnect because of systems and potential failure scenarios. From what I can gather, that means that you have to assign your throttle axes within FSX itself rather than through an external program such as FSUIPC.

Thanks---it`s working momently.
I have them connected via an Hub and i think,that the Hub is dying.
Will watch that.
Mike

[Javis]

I know some people who are having trouble with the tool are using Win7-64, so it's not limited to XP.Works fine for me though.


That's correct, i'm on W7/64 too. I don't get an error message or anything like that when i try to run the FA tool, it's just that nothing happens...

[noddy]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/noddy1966/9-1.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/noddy1966/media/9-1.jpg.html)

[Ian Warren]

Nice one Andy, I must find that painting by Frank Wootton, from memory it was a PR9, I have it in the library here but just to find it :wavey:

[YoYo]

Yep, this skin "rulez".

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_6_zps8bcef535.jpg~original

But I like this grey too:

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_7_zps17b45e16.jpg~original

[noddy]

The second shot of the grey skin is a beauty.

[Martyn]

I've got my throttles assigned via FSUIPC & they work fine for me.

As long as FSUIPC is making use of the default FS throttle events (shown in the Controls > Axis menu) then your hardware should work fine with the Canberra.

[Martyn]

The tool also works fine under Win8.1, but I'm finding that the frame rate hit I have with this aircraft makes it unusable.

I have raised a ticket, but nothing has come of it.

Dave

Just arrived back from holiday so I don't have the full details, but I believe that one of my colleagues is looking into this.

[YoYo]

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/rafikst/Canberra%20PR9/Canberra_PR9_10_zps252c8505.jpg~original

[Ian Warren]

Nice Screen YOYO :adoration:

[YoYo]

Thank You! :wavey:

[noddy]

Nice Screen YOYO :adoration:

What Ian said.:applause:

[Martyn]

If anyone encountered very low FPS with the Canberra, please refer to this FAQ that we've just posted: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/canberra-pr9#50f4ef3

[Jafo]

Any chance of one of these? ....;)

5042

[anthony31]

Sorry if this has been answered before (didn't read the whole thread).

But why the offset cockpit? Is there a reason for this or is it just more quirky British engineering?

[dhazelgrove]

Sorry if this has been answered before (didn't read the whole thread).

But why the offset cockpit? Is there a reason for this or is it just more quirky British engineering?

"Quirky British engineering"? That would be a YES - especially if you remember that only British engineers would put two cannon in front of a fuel tank.

Dave

[Dave Torkington]

I bought the PR9 at release and had big big problems with ultra low frame rates [FSX ground to a halt basically]...

Wanted to give a a huge thank you to George at Just Flight for excellent customer service!

The upshot is that my problem was fixed after much patient toing and froing. It turned out that unchecking 'run in windows 7 mode' [I have W7 64bit by the way] in the FSX.exe compatibility settings did the trick.

Best regards, Dave [a quirky British engineer] :wavey:

p.s. The offset PR9 cockpit might have been for improved pilot visibility... Not sure. Loving the T28D Anthony btw. :applause:

[JensOle]

Sorry if this has been answered before (didn't read the whole thread).

But why the offset cockpit? Is there a reason for this or is it just more quirky British engineering?

All the EE/BAC Canberra's had the pilot offset to the left side (T.4 had duel controls for training and therefor a right pilot seat), the older B models just had a larger "fishbowl" canopy over it. Might also be something about the British tradition of having the pilot (skipper) in the left seat on multi crew aircraft.

The Americans of course changed this to a more traditional centre fuselage tandem layout for their Martin B-57 version..

[Motormouse]

Any chance of one of these? ....;)

5042

One already here and only $10, -----> http://www.flyingstations.com/canberra-exports-fire-ice.html

ttfn

Pete

[Motormouse]

All the EE/BAC Canberra's had the pilot offset to the left side (T.4 had duel controls for training and therefor a right pilot seat), the older B models just had a larger "fishbowl" canopy over it. Might also be something about the British tradition of having the pilot (skipper) in the left seat on multi crew aircraft.

The Americans of course changed this to a more traditional centre fuselage tandem layout for their Martin B-57 version..

Not in the B57A they didn't !!

The left seat was a hangover from the B(I) 8 Canberra; (for cost reasons) from which the PR9 was developed

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2306/cutaway41.jpg

ttfn

Pete

[Jafo]

One already here and only $10, -----> http://www.flyingstations.com/canberra-exports-fire-ice.html

ttfn

Pete

I may have to grab that....messing with an old one to get a slightly passable VC, etc is a pain as always...adapting for FSX ...;)

Edit...yep...grabbed it...$5.60-odd in Aussie dollars ...;)

[ZsoltB]

I just do not understand when they know that XP does not compatibilis, why do not show up in the shop
I understand that the testers used Windows7
I do not
No comment

:banghead:

[Martyn]

I just do not understand when they know that XP does not compatibilis, why do not show up in the shop
I understand that the testers used Windows7
I do not
No comment

:banghead:

Looks like you are commenting to me :encouragement:

I assume you are referring to the configuration tool compatibility rather than any issue with the aircraft itself?

An update will be available shortly which will address the issue with the tool in Windows XP. The update will also add new features such as misting/fogging of the canopy, a real-time flight analysis section in the tool etc

[ZsoltB]

Looks like you are commenting to me :encouragement:

I assume you are referring to the configuration tool compatibility rather than any issue with the aircraft itself?

An update will be available shortly which will address the issue with the tool in Windows XP. The update will also add new features such as misting/fogging of the canopy, a real-time flight analysis section in the tool etc

Looking forward to!

:applause:

[ZsoltB]

Looks like you are commenting to me :encouragement:

I assume you are referring to the configuration tool compatibility rather than any issue with the aircraft itself?

An update will be available shortly which will address the issue with the tool in Windows XP. The update will also add new features such as misting/fogging of the canopy, a real-time flight analysis section in the tool etc


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• I am experiencing extremely low frame rates of about 0.5 FPS when using the Canberra.Please make sure you do not have the 'Run in Windows 7 (or XP etc) compatibility mode' option enabled. You can access this by right clicking on your FSX.exe > Properties >Compatibility (see below for reference).
http://assets.justflight.com/images/Frame%20Rates.jpg


Unfortunately I do not have such an opportunity!
I do not offer this option in XP

:dizzy:


</tbody>

[Dev One]

Sorry if this has been answered before (didn't read the whole thread).

But why the offset cockpit? Is there a reason for this or is it just more quirky British engineering?

I should think the real reason for the offset in the original design was that the Bomb Aimer sat alongside the Navigator on his bang seat behind the pilot, but when near the target he then had to transfer to the nose position to do his job!
I do not know the internal arrangement of the PR version, but is the Nav/camera operator in the nose & does he have to transfer back to his bang seat?
Another quirky kite is the Sea Vixen with an offset canopy.....
Keith

[Chris Sykes]

They have a bang seat in the nose...

[noddy]

An updated Vixen for FSX would be great.

Anyway back on topic.

[Martyn]

Unfortunately I do not have such an opportunity!
I do not offer this option in XP

That fix is only for Windows 7/8 users that are encountering a constant 0.5 FPS. Are you getting that exact issue on your Windows XP PC?

If you are, please drop our support team an e-mail as no-one else has reported that.

[ZsoltB]

That fix is only for Windows 7/8 users that are encountering a constant 0.5 FPS. Are you getting that exact issue on your Windows XP PC?

If you are, please drop our support team an e-mail as no-one else has reported that.

Here's the problem

50985099


These options are offered for XP

[RAS_JF]

And you are getting 0.5fps in Windows XP?

[RAS_JF]

Here's a pic of the new canopy misting feature that will be in the Canberra update (due out next week).

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy358/RichSlater/mist.png

[Ian Warren]

I speaking to the chap's at http://www.flightexperience.com/ , they build these 737 Simulators , Russ Sean and Brent build them but the one thing they said was tho there cockpits are .. well a different class ... but Sean and Brent simply loved the this cockpit .... think they were misty eye'd over it ... they simply loved it :adoration:, now with the misty affects .. SUPERB!

[JensOle]

Not in the B57A they didn't !!

The left seat was a hangover from the B(I) 8 Canberra; (for cost reasons) from which the PR9 was developed

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2306/cutaway41.jpg

ttfn

Pete

Yep, that's right. The initial US model kept the fishbowl cockpit layout to get the production going before the new redesigned main model was ready for production.

[Martyn]

I've knocked up a video showing how to carry out a quick start in the Canberra:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xppQhnTNehc

[YoYo]

Well done Martyn! Thank You! :wavey:

[Chris Sykes]

SP1 is out http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/canberra-pr9#5f4a560

[RAS_JF]

Here is a list of what is in the update:

Lower strobe position adjusted.
Strobe lights now have red and white lights (strobe switches are now three-position)
Fuel tank capacity adjusted.
Canopy opening procedure adjusted (see manual page 24 for procedure).
Canopy bounce when in propped taxi position fixed.
Autopilot heading mismatch fixed.
Revised smoke and heat-haze effects.
Smoke appearing at wing tip bug fixed.
Heading gauge bug fixed.
Throttle freeze bug fixed.
GPS back button bug fixed.
Sunken ground equipment problem fixed.
Checklist now left-aligned for easy reading.
Q-feel needles now showing in cockpit.
Cold and Dark bug fixed.
Custom engine start system improved
Flight analysis tool replaced with three separate tools. Flight analysis part completely reworked and now displayed live data during the flight, including a map with aircraft and waypoint positions.
Canopy misting feature added – canopy will now mist when descending from altitude, requiring the de-mist system to be activated.

[gdavej]

Has anybody, besides myself, tried to install this aircraft in P3D v2.2? I've installed it, but the frame rates at practically zero make this aircraft unusable for me. After 5 minutes, the cockpit hadn't fully shown, and the fps was showing at 0.3 fps, which was surely a major exaggeration!

I've written to JustFlight support, and the only response I got was "Check the FAQ"; an action which I didn't need to be told to do, and an action which I had mentioned I had done in my initial request for support. Since responding to this response, I've heard nothing since. So another question would be... "Is JustFlight support usually as bad as what I have experienced?" or have I just been unlucky?

[dhazelgrove]

Has anybody, besides myself, tried to install this aircraft in P3D v2.2? I've installed it, but the frame rates at practically zero make this aircraft unusable for me. After 5 minutes, the cockpit hadn't fully shown, and the fps was showing at 0.3 fps, which was surely a major exaggeration!

I've written to JustFlight support, and the only response I got was "Check the FAQ"; an action which I didn't need to be told to do, and an action which I had mentioned I had done in my initial request for support. Since responding to this response, I've heard nothing since. So another question would be... "Is JustFlight support usually as bad as what I have experienced?" or have I just been unlucky?

My experience with them is very positive. They wouldn't quit until I had a working aircraft.
Fair enough, I'm running FSX.

Dave

[Roger]

Has anybody, besides myself, tried to install this aircraft in P3D v2.2? I've installed it, but the frame rates at practically zero make this aircraft unusable for me. After 5 minutes, the cockpit hadn't fully shown, and the fps was showing at 0.3 fps, which was surely a major exaggeration!

I've written to JustFlight support, and the only response I got was "Check the FAQ"; an action which I didn't need to be told to do, and an action which I had mentioned I had done in my initial request for support. Since responding to this response, I've heard nothing since. So another question would be... "Is JustFlight support usually as bad as what I have experienced?" or have I just been unlucky?

Was the Canberra supposed to work in P3DV2.2?

[DaveWG]

I've tried it in P3d V2.2 and it seems to work fine, although I didn't install it directly, but copied it across from my FSX installation.

[gdavej]

Was the Canberra supposed to work in P3DV2.2?

Its supposed to work in P3D v2 since it is an option in the installer, so it should also work in v2.2. I've tried un-installing and reinstalling with no improvement.

[Martyn]

Has anybody, besides myself, tried to install this aircraft in P3D v2.2? I've installed it, but the frame rates at practically zero make this aircraft unusable for me. After 5 minutes, the cockpit hadn't fully shown, and the fps was showing at 0.3 fps, which was surely a major exaggeration!

I've written to JustFlight support, and the only response I got was "Check the FAQ"; an action which I didn't need to be told to do, and an action which I had mentioned I had done in my initial request for support. Since responding to this response, I've heard nothing since. So another question would be... "Is JustFlight support usually as bad as what I have experienced?" or have I just been unlucky?

The Canberra is compatible with P3Dv2.2. We have had several customers report the FPS issue that you are encountering and the instructions in the FAQ have resolved that issue for them. If it hasn't resolved the issue for you, the support team will be working to identify other possible solutions - something that takes time.

As others here will testify, our support team is excellent. Unfortunately a combination of UK public holidays and additional holiday taken by our support team has resulted in longer than usual response times over the past week. I will let them know that you are awaiting a response.

Martyn

[gdavej]

The Canberra is compatible with P3Dv2.2. We have had several customers report the FPS issue that you are encountering and the instructions in the FAQ have resolved that issue for them. If it hasn't resolved the issue for you, the support team will be working to identify other possible solutions - something that takes time.

As others here will testify, our support team is excellent. Unfortunately a combination of UK public holidays and additional holiday taken by our support team has resulted in longer than usual response times over the past week. I will let them know that you are awaiting a response.

Martyn

Thanks for your response, and intervention. I got a reply from the Support team, and got my money refunded. Still not sure why I had the problems, hopefully whatever it was gets resolved, and I can purchase teh product again down the road. Anyway, my faith in JustFlight support has been restored, just wish we had as many public holidays here in Canada :-)

[Geomitrak]

I've just tried the demo version of the Canberra with P3Dv2.2 and its absolutely fine. No problem whatsoever.

[dhazelgrove]

A lot of people seem to have problems because of the way they run FSX/P3D.

You certainly can't run in 'compatibility' mode, and it seems that 'run as administrator' has an effect, too.

Dave

[Tim-HH]

Check your emails! JustFlight's latest newsletter contains a 50% off coupon for the Canberra! :applause:

Greetings
Tim

[Martyn]

Bargain :encouragement:

[jojohnson9]

Just got for a half....great deal!

[Tim-HH]

Before purchasing I thought I should take a look at the demo. Right after choosing the Canberra and agreeing to load the gauges, I get the "FSX has stopped working" message. According to the event log it has something to do with the g2d.dll. No idea, I never had such a problem before. A few guys in the Justflight forum are having the same problem but there doesn't seem to be a solution.

The Canberra is not the usual type of aircraft I'm interested in but I like well-simulated addons - especially at that price. So it's sad that it doesn't work on my end. But once again I appreciate the fact that JustFlight offers demo versions of their addons! :applause:

Greetings
Tim

[Martyn]

Before purchasing I thought I should take a look at the demo. Right after choosing the Canberra and agreeing to load the gauges, I get the "FSX has stopped working" message. According to the event log it has something to do with the g2d.dll. No idea, I never had such a problem before. A few guys in the Justflight forum are having the same problem but there doesn't seem to be a solution.

The Canberra is not the usual type of aircraft I'm interested in but I like well-simulated addons - especially at that price. So it's sad that it doesn't work on my end. But once again I appreciate the fact that JustFlight offers demo versions of their addons! :applause:

Greetings
Tim

Hi Tim,

If you haven't already done so, please drop our customer service an e-mail as we don't handle support via the forum: http://www.justflight.com/support-contact

Thanks
Martyn

[Martyn]

We've just released SP3 for the Canberra PR9 - http://www.justflight.com/support/canberra-pr9





Text removed from bottom of autopilot 2D panel
Engine start issues fixed
Zero G flameout logic improved
Prepar3D v3 compatibility added



A couple of pics in P3Dv3:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31469&stc=1 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31470&stc=1

[Peg o my heart]

THANK YOU SIR. :very_drunk:

I havent tested it but the engine start issue is the most significant i suppose. Downloading it now (442.329mb). Im happy it is being periodically updated. Whats the chance of making Buccaneers or Nimrod? Just saying :jump:

[JensOle]

Is the Chilean AF included in the texture lineup for the PR.9?

[Peg o my heart]

Ok I just tested the start sequence.
---
Apparently, I need to always load a default aircraft first prior to using the PR9; fire it up and change to PR9 and do the manual or instant start up. It wont work without the default aircraft trick, no matter what I did, including pressing the lightning icon, she just wont start on my end. ;)

[DaveB]

That's a pretty standard thing to do anyway if you want to avoid problems. I always start this way;)

ATB
DaveB:)

[TARPSBird]

I simply cannot get this plane started. Is there a quick start-up procedure I'm missing? I thought that was the lightning box icon on the panel selector box?

[ncooper]

There seems to be a You Tube on the page before this one?
https://youtu.be/xppQhnTNehc

[DaveB]

To actually start the engines is easy. Assuming you've got as far as having pwr connected.. you basically open the fuel panel and make sure every switch is up (on) then open the start panel. For the left engine.. make sure the upper left 'electric start' is selected then switch up the master and ignition switches for engine 1 then hit the start button. Have a cursory glance over to make sure the throttles aren't in the fuel cutoff position and the engine will start. Do the same for engine 2.

If you're starting with every switch in the cockpit turned to off.. then a little more reading is required:biggrin-new:

EDIT: Nearly forgot.. there's a Take Off panel too. Make sure all those switches are up though if you're not getting the engines started.. the Take Off panel is irrelevant.
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ian Warren]

I do love this Canberra , the cockpit textures are so well done, I the biggest thing is getting the feel for a 1950's style cockpit , I know the 'JF Dev in house team' is very busy at mo, but to have the Vulcan (yip I know as you all would - I have the 'Vulcan to the Sky' and the Iris package) but to be done with this attention to detail .... and for some reason it has that real feel about it !

[DaveB]

I hear what you say Ian but the Canberra already pushes my rig to places thus far the reserve of MilViz (with the exception of the Tonka which went well beyond):biggrin-new: Can you honestly imagine how a Vulcan would run engineered by the same team to the same detail??? There'd be more than one XH558 grounded!!

Anywho.. the Iris Vulcan is still a darned good model and the flightdeck holds up well. If they're gonna make something.. P L E A S E let it be different:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ian Warren]

If they're gonna make something.. P L E A S E let it be different:encouragement:

Hmmm ... maybe a Victor then, now that would be one heck off a project,

[milaircom]

Or a Valiant.

[DaveB]

Orr.. a Jagular:encouragement:

Back on topic.. I'm not sure what's happening with the engine start on the SP3 version. The first time I tried, they wouldn't light (though that turned out to be finger trouble on my part). The second time.. both engines lit when starter No.1 was hit. After that.. the engines remained lit (when loading from the default Cessna) until I tried again last night when they were cold. Under normal circumstances.. I'd select the 'keep current state' option but I've not selected anything.. just direct nose control in the cfg with all else left at default.
It doesn't bother me much as I know they'll start from cold but I can't quite fathom why sometimes, they remain lit (after chopping from the startup/default Cessna) and others.. they're cold.

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveWG]

Jaguar or VC10 would get my money.:encouragement:

[milaircom]

Jaguar or VC10 would get my money.:encouragement:

How about a Belfast? :encouragement:

[TARPSBird]

I think the workload needed for the PR9 start-up procedure exceeds the capabilities of my computer. I followed the how-to video exactly and couldn't keep the engines running. I was only able to get it started by using the method previously mentioned: starting another plane and then selecting the PR9. I'm also getting the "Your computer has run out of memory..." show-stopper during flights which is a pretty good sign it's just too much for my rig.

[DaveB]

The 'Your computer has run out of available memory' isn't a good sign. What are your system specs mate? I was able to run it (just) on my old WinXP rig though it wasn't happy (me neither)!!

ATB
DaveB:)

[milaircom]

Ah, the good 'ole days of fs6/7/8 etc when we could jump into a "Hot" aircraft, release the brakes and go. :untroubled:

[TARPSBird]

The 'Your computer has run out of available memory' isn't a good sign. What are your system specs mate? I was able to run it (just) on my old WinXP rig though it wasn't happy (me neither)!!

ATB
DaveB:)

Dave, here are my specs (don't laugh):

Windows XP 32-bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti graphics card
2.50 gigahertz Intel Pentium Dual-Core
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Gigabyte G41M-ES2L motherboard
Two 2048 Mb DDR2 RAM sticks (that's all I can install)

[DaveB]

Dave, here are my specs (don't laugh):

Windows XP 32-bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti graphics card
2.50 gigahertz Intel Pentium Dual-Core
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Gigabyte G41M-ES2L motherboard
Two 2048 Mb DDR2 RAM sticks (that's all I can install)

Hello mate.

No laughing here. We have what we have and make the best of it;)

Honestly.. I think the PR9 is probably too much for your setup. My WinXP rig is also 32bit and my graphics card is similar (Asus GTX560Ti) but I have an intel E8400 dual-core in it which is 3gig out of the box. RAM is neither here nor there as you (like me on that rig) are restricted by the 32bit OS. The PR9 is heavy on that rig.. too heavy to be fun so it never got used. TBH.. it's heavy on my current rig.. as heavy as I'm comfortable going and this is Win7 Ultimate, Palit GTX560Ti (1.2gig), intel i5 2500K(3.3-3.7gig) with 8gig of system ram.

I'd have thought you'd have been able to start it mind.. even if it ran like a dog. That said.. I tried the QW146/RJ in FSX on the WinXP rig and it didn't have enough get up and go to initialize the gauges!! Ran like a dream in FS9 too.
ATB
DaveB:)

[Martyn]

A demo of the Canberra PR9 is available if you want to assess performance on your PC before purchasing it - http://www.justflight.com/demos

If you are still encountering engine start issues then please make sure to contact our support team - http://www.justflight.com/support-contact

[Ferry_vO]

Still a great aircraft!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202015-11-12%2020-46-26-74_zpsswce9j9k.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202015-11-12%2020-46-26-74_zpsswce9j9k.jpg.html)

[JamieC]

I love this aircraft too. Just a shame it's not multiplayer compatible.

[DaveB]

That's a lovely shot Ferry:encouragement: Looks like a phot at first glance:very_drunk:
ATB
DaveB:)

[Peg o my heart]

Last night I had one of the engines failed during to roll, my guess is the abusive power input (?) that was the first time occurred since I had the PR9 many months ago lol

Btw, I browsed here and there and couldnt find any 3rd party repaints, either historical or fictional. If anyone knows something, please :)

[Martyn]

Last night I had one of the engines failed during to roll, my guess is the abusive power input (?) that was the first time occurred since I had the PR9 many months ago lol


The Canberra can only sustain negative G for several seconds before the engines will start to get starved of fuel :encouragement:

[wombat666]

Jaguar or VC10 would get my money.

A long time ago the RAF were delivering a batch of Jaguars to the Omani Air Force, at which time (in a previous life) I was present for reasons that I can't divulge.
Apparently most of the RAF personnel involved were 'Hooray Harrys' and indulged in some 'interesting' low level flying.
It came to an abrupt halt when one of the 'Chicken' runs almost demolished two aircrew, one Toyota Corolla and one Jaguar.
The 'game' involved one aircraft screaming down a highway a naught feet while approaching one car driven in the opposite direction by a fellow pilot.
As you can see, the intrepid Jaguar pilot came in a trifle lower than planned, while the far more intrepid Corolla pilot remained firmly on course.
I manged to catch up with the Jaguar and the Corolla shortly after the 'incident', and I have no idea how the Corolla owner was going to word his insurance claim ........... good thing he ducked!
Not the best images but my group were supposed to 'blend into the background', I guess it proves we blended rather well.
That Jaguar must have been built like a brick dunny, which is probably why I retain a strong affection for the type to this day.


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[Ian Warren]

at which time (in a previous life) I was present for reasons that I can't divulge.

WOMBAT :adoration: Moral off the story , don't piss a Jaguar off , it will try and bite your head off! :biggrin-new:

I seriously love those photo's !

[Ian Warren]

Still a great aircraft!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202015-11-12%2020-46-26-74_zpsswce9j9k.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202015-11-12%2020-46-26-74_zpsswce9j9k.jpg.html)
Nice one Ferry .. YIP ! ... Just something about about this Canberra, In the RNZAF Wigram museum they have a close relative , well in saying that the very era and style of aircraft , the cockpit of a two seat vampire , this is where this Canberra really shined ... then off course if we travel 50 miles south of Christchurch you can visit the Ashburton Aviation Museum were at request have the option to jump into the cockpit of the old RAF's Raspberry Ripple Canberra cockpit ... just for desert!

It's amazing getting all around the internals .. the Navigators Nose Section as they would call it in the pilots notes and to get in the back to the Nav's normal station ... truthfully on a B(1).Mk.12 nose section was for weapon aiming ... but its just great to be able to really study it.