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centuryseries
January 4th, 2014, 10:48
Thought I'd post these new shots.

Hope you like them. She's coming along nicely.

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/snoopy1.JPG

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/snoopy2.jpg

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/TB_proto.jpg

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/albm.jpg

PutPut
January 4th, 2014, 10:53
Beautiful!! When can I let out my breath?

Best, Paul:applause::jump::jump:

Ferry_vO
January 4th, 2014, 11:12
Beautiful!

Is that a camera pod below the outboard engine in the first two screenshots?

centuryseries
January 4th, 2014, 11:21
Beautiful!

Is that a camera pod below the outboard engine in the first two screenshots?

Yes it is :mixed-smiley-010: the VC includes that crazy long nose making landing interesting!

Ferry_vO
January 4th, 2014, 11:26
Yes it is :mixed-smiley-010:

Thought I'd recognized it from an YF-12 kit I built last year; on that aircraft they used it to monitor the release of the AIM-47 missiles. I guess on the B-58 They would see what happens if the pod was released?

Ian Warren
January 4th, 2014, 12:51
Oh YES ! now that i can almost smell the kerosine burn! :redfire:

www.aviation-art-in-action.com

delta_lima
January 4th, 2014, 14:14
Awesome - not just a Snoopy repaint - but the actual long nosed development version!!

thanks SO much!

DL

centuryseries
January 4th, 2014, 14:28
Thought I'd recognized it from an YF-12 kit I built last year; on that aircraft they used it to monitor the release of the AIM-47 missiles. I guess on the B-58 They would see what happens if the pod was released?

In actual fact the cameras were used to watch an air to air missile fall from the pod - the aircraft was used to test the radar and missile system being developed for the YF-12.

Ferry_vO
January 4th, 2014, 15:06
In actual fact the cameras were used to watch an air to air missile fall from the pod - the aircraft was used to test the radar and missile system being developed for the YF-12.

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense to use the same camera's too then. ;)

b52bob
January 4th, 2014, 15:18
I am really really really waiting for this one. Remembering these beasts from my air force days.

SiR_RiPPER
January 4th, 2014, 16:25
I feel like in the coming months we'll be giving FSX a 60's cold war feel. If only we had some era sceneries to go along with the F-104s, F-84s, F-102s, F-4s, B-58s and T-2s...

trucker17
January 4th, 2014, 16:35
Looking good

dvj
January 4th, 2014, 18:13
This is very exciting indeed for 2014. I am hoping you can re-create the metal-like textures as seen with the Milviz F-86, the Skunkworks F-84 and Uncle Milton's DC-3. That would add a real level of realism to the package.
-d

Milviz did a nice skin on this 3D model.

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centuryseries
January 4th, 2014, 23:41
This is very exciting indeed for 2014. I am hoping you can re-create the metal-like textures as seen with the Milviz F-86, the Skunkworks F-84 and Uncle Milton's DC-3. That would add a real level of realism to the package.
-d

Milviz did a nice skin on this 3D model.



She has 2048 size textures with bump mapping, specular mapping and subtle reflectivity maps, I have tried to make it look as realistic as possible but remember, the Hustler was not generally polished in service, only the museums highly polished their Hustlers. However if you like the high reflectivity look you can always create new reflectivity maps etc.

LE151
January 5th, 2014, 00:05
Sweet look'n ride!!!!! :jawdrop:

YoYo
January 5th, 2014, 01:48
This is very exciting indeed for 2014. I am hoping you can re-create the metal-like textures as seen with the Milviz F-86, the Skunkworks F-84 and Uncle Milton's DC-3. That would add a real level of realism to the package.
-d

Milviz did a nice skin on this 3D model.



+1. Agree too. External textures are too mat and no shiny/no reflections like here:

http://www.airart3d.com/wp-content/gallery/convair-b-58-hustler/b58_21.jpg

http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b-58/images/frouch_b-58_10.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4047/4559674128_790fba976d_o.jpg

Here good example of Bomber_12Th skin (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?78879-More-Wozza-T-6-Repaint-WIP&p=857262&viewfull=1#post857262) :

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th021/X-705_zps30d0d932.jpg~original

For sure its a still WiP I think :- ).

centuryseries
January 5th, 2014, 02:46
Hi Yoyo,

I think that shininess and reflectivity is a matter of personal taste. 080 pictured above looks to be a museum piece, and the prototypes would've been polished as no one would've wanted to see a rough metal looking brand new plane! As I say, there are reflective maps, however this is more subtle to reflect years in service. If you want to customise this for a museum piece look then that will be up to you. The Milviz scheme is very detailed and looks good, but in my opinion far too reflective for an operational aircraft.

As I say just personal opinion.

Sundog
January 5th, 2014, 05:26
Those previews look great and the weapons system testbed is quite the happy surprise.

b52bob
January 5th, 2014, 05:34
I also remember them being shiny. They weren't polished but you have to remember that they were only operational for about ten years, so they never got a chance to be tarnished much. 080 is at the Pima museum but it was polished several years ago and now looks like an operational aircraft would look.

This in no way denigrates the beautiful model you are creating. There are painters out there who will do there own thing when it's released. I for one can't wait to get this, thanks for all your hard work.

Bob

DaveQ
January 5th, 2014, 05:50
I also remember them being shiny. They weren't polished but you have to remember that they were only operational for about ten years, so they never got a chance to be tarnished much. 080 is at the Pima museum but it was polished several years ago and now looks like an operational aircraft would look.

........There are painters out there who will do there own thing when it's released. I for one can't wait to get this, thanks for all your hard work.

Bob

David, this a fabulous looking creation; thank you so much. And yes Bob, I for one will be trying hard to emulate the work Bomber_12th has done with his Mustangs and Harvards to represent the complex skinning and texturing of this beautiful beast.

Best regards

DaveQ

spins_vmfa321
January 5th, 2014, 05:54
Thought I'd post these new shots.

Hope you like them. She's coming along nicely.

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/snoopy1.JPG

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/snoopy2.jpg

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/TB_proto.jpg

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/albm.jpg


That is smokin'!!! One of my favorite bombers! I cannot wait to try it out.

centuryseries
January 5th, 2014, 08:02
Another shot of the long nosed missile development aircraft showing the AIM-47A carriage.

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/snoopy3.jpg

dvj
January 5th, 2014, 09:34
She has 2048 size textures with bump mapping, specular mapping and subtle reflectivity maps, I have tried to make it look as realistic as possible but remember, the Hustler was not generally polished in service, only the museums highly polished their Hustlers. However if you like the high reflectivity look you can always create new reflectivity maps etc.

I was not recommending highly polished, but some developers have created a way to render metal with a high level of realism. 2279

If you are thinking payware, I'd up the texturing a bit. If purely a labor of love, (and your work is coming along nicely), I'll take any B-58 I can get! ;-)

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dvj
January 5th, 2014, 10:09
Destination Moscow. Some Dave Q magic to the old Alpha model. F-104 AB's added.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1305/n5kf.jpg

fsafranek
January 5th, 2014, 15:35
Hi David. She looks great and very excited to see the Snoopy version now included. Also like the trainer prototype scheme. Looking forward to some cockpit update shots. Do I see another "Can-Do" award in the making?
:ernaehrung004:

dhazelgrove
January 5th, 2014, 23:57
I do not admit to being old enough to remember these.
The fact that I went to an open day at RAF Mildenhall in the 1960s, and there was one of these on the display line is purely coincidental.

Dave

centuryseries
January 6th, 2014, 09:54
I do not admit to being old enough to remember these.
The fact that I went to an open day at RAF Mildenhall in the 1960s, and there was one of these on the display line is purely coincidental.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I'd consider myself very lucky to see one even in a museum! I doubt I'll ever get to see a real one.

Frank, you never know!

TuFun
January 6th, 2014, 16:44
I was fortunate to see the Hustlers fly at Bunker Hill AFB, later renamed Grissom. My father was stationed there and brought me out to the hangars to see them and I remembered those capsule ejection seats. Also, open house day, they would fly two Hustlers flight demonstrations.

dhazelgrove
January 6th, 2014, 23:36
If you need a fix of B-58s on your system, take a look at Team SDB's Bunker Hill.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2014/01/07/3x4f.jpg
Rush shot.

You can get it at the pilot shop.

Dave

DaveQ
January 8th, 2014, 00:58
I do not admit to being old enough to remember these.
The fact that I went to an open day at RAF Mildenhall in the 1960s, and there was one of these on the display line is purely coincidental.

Dave

If only I'd gone....! 59-2440, almost certainly the last Hustler to visit the UK. Photographed at Mildenhall Open Day in May 1969. Was this the one Dave??

http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1425176

And this is my skin for it. Hopefully it will fit the new FSX model!

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dhazelgrove
January 8th, 2014, 05:39
Looks familiar - although I'm still not admitting anything!

Dave

Ian Warren
January 8th, 2014, 11:41
Super historical photo, 59 year built 69 year displayed .. dang thing was still brand new :encouragement:

dhazelgrove
January 8th, 2014, 23:42
She was very shiny, and parked next to a just-as-shiny early F-104.
I was allowed to look in the F-104's cockpit, and remember thinking that it had the most comfortable-looking ejector seat I'd ever seen.

I wasn't allowed too near the B-58, though.

Dave

noddy
January 8th, 2014, 23:49
When you see it in the photo, it makes you realise it was a big old beast.

centuryseries
January 9th, 2014, 09:41
If only I'd gone....! 59-2440, almost certainly the last Hustler to visit the UK. Photographed at Mildenhall Open Day in May 1969. Was this the one Dave??

http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1425176

And this is my skin for it. Hopefully it will fit the new FSX model!

2420

Previous reprints should still fit as the mappings have not changed for the exterior. I'm planning one more special version aside from the Trainer and Snoopy versions :jump: and then it'll be final items and manual writing time.

DaveQ
January 10th, 2014, 00:25
Previous reprints should still fit as the mappings have not changed for the exterior. I'm planning one more special version aside from the Trainer and Snoopy versions :jump: and then it'll be final items and manual writing time.

What 'special version' would that be I wonder??:kilroy: Hmm! Jo Baugher lists a few possibilities (http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b58.html). How about an ALBM version?? Or possibly a stripped Aussie with underwing ordnance (M82/M83) - that'd be good 'cos I've already got some Aussie skins ready to go. Please don't keep us in suspense!!!:eagerness:

DaveQ

centuryseries
January 10th, 2014, 11:01
What 'special version' would that be I wonder??:kilroy: Hmm! Jo Baugher lists a few possibilities (http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b58.html). How about an ALBM version?? Or possibly a stripped Aussie with underwing ordnance (M82/M83) - that'd be good 'cos I've already got some Aussie skins ready to go. Please don't keep us in suspense!!!:eagerness:

DaveQ

The ALBM version is already included in the screenshots on page 1. It is another test bed, no pictures yet, but I'm hoping to finish off that over the weekend. :ernaehrung004:

http://www.glowingheat.co.uk/screenshots/albm.jpg