Anyone know what kind of plane this is?

[Lionheart]

Hey all,

Any idea's?


https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/425811_3431846715829_422385840_n.jpg

[Sylvanriv]

Not sure of the plane, possibly an early Luscombe? The pilot is Mary Calcaño, the first female pilot of Venezuela, if that helps...

[Skyhawk_310R]

Oh boy, a 1940's to 50's era GA airplane.

It looks a lot like a 1940's era Aeronca 7AC Champ.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3658/3465453711_0aaa31215d_z.jpg?zz=1

The design of the landing gear looks spot on but the cowling appears a bit deeper. So, I'm still digging.

Ken

[binarkansas]

Looks mighty like an Aeronca K, but with some strange engine. look here http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeronca-KCA/2115757/&sid=3cedb963f66dde7965eb8e65b78ac453

[Skyhawk_310R]

On the other hand, this Stinson Flier J4A has a matching lower portion of the cowl, but does not show the cylinders on the sides.

http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/j4a-02c.jpg

Ken

[Lionheart]

Here is another pic of the that type of plane.

http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/320/320663.jpg

[Skyhawk_310R]

Looks mighty like an Aeronca K, but with some strange engine. look here http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeronca-KCA/2115757/&sid=3cedb963f66dde7965eb8e65b78ac453

Really, really close indeed! It seems to just be missing that circular intake hole on the lower front of the cowling.

Ken

[PutPut]

How about a Piper J-4? (The side-by-side J-3) I see the bear on the vstab.

Best, Paul

[Sylvanriv]

I think Paul's got it! Either the J-4 or J-5.

[Skyhawk_310R]

Here is another pic of the that type of plane.

http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/320/320663.jpg

Well, if it is the same plane, the second photo shows it's a Piper Cub. The insignia is on the vertical stabilizer. But, the shape of the cowling appears a bit unusual from others I have seen. Most from that period of time have a square shaped air filter at the bottom front of the cowling that I don't see on this one she posed beside. Her's has a more oval shaped air intake. But, that's the thing, so many modifications are and were made to civilian GA aircraft. Each one essentially ends up unique is some ways from all others.

Ken

[PutPut]

Hey Bill, If this is an indication you might model this craft, there are excellent drawings (and photo's) in Paul Matt's collection. The drawings do show a square intake hole as mentioned above. Also, if you model it I will be one of your first customers.

Best, Paul

[greybeardgil]

Hi Bill..This is Definitely a Piper J-4 Coupe

[phantomx1]

Looks like a Piper J-5 to me.

P.Clawson did a PA-12 and claims it to be a J-5C but it has a fully inclosed cowl like on a PA-18. I want to call his model a PA-12 Cruiser.

J-5's are rare in real life and P.Clawson's model is the only reference I have seen for a J-5.

It would be nice to see someone make a J-5, the one with the cylinders exposed.

P.Clawsons may very well be a J-5 "C" which may be the designation for a PA-12 Super Cruiser, I don't know, but it does have the single pilot seat and wide tw-place rear bench seat like the J-5 I remember seeing with the exposed cylinders. So too does the PA-12 Super cruiser have the same seating arrangement.

A Piper J-5 with the exposed cylinders and the bulged fuselage sides is a very attractive "cute" thing to admire. I don't believe FS modeler ever made one.

Anyway that's what the plane in the picture looks like to me.

edit: Oops! just saw the second picture. Now that looks like a Piper J-4.


J-5's are pretty with exposed cylinders :)

[orionll]

Going by the N number on the second picture, it's a Piper J4.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=21599

There's also the page the second picture came from: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000320663.html.

[trucker17]

Hi Bill..This is Definitely a Piper J-4 Coupe

I have to agree with greybeardgil......Looks like the J-4 coupe

[Lionheart]

Many thanks guys.

I thought it was some kind of rare DeHavilland. :S

[pilottj]

You thinking about making one Bill?;):icon_lol:

[bruce448]

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N21599.html

[YoYo]

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N21599.html

This one! Bravo.

It looks like old version of J-4.

http://www.airbum.com/pireps/J-4BWLeftTurnWEB.jpg

[normb]

My two cents (now that everyone has done the hard work): It's a Piper J4. Straight J4 with a Continental A50 engine. (A50 had the upward exhaust. A65 on had bottom mounted exhaust system.)

J4 was an odd bird. Different engineeers, I think. It had a trim tab on elevator rather than moving stabilizer. Also has tailwheel mounted somewhat forward of rudder post. And different wing jury struts than J-3.

Bird at Pima has tailwheel under rudder post but that is not original. Curator at Pima caught me on that when I was admiring bird. he asked me what ws wrong with it. I couldn't guess it. He told me afer that it was a common change on ebuilds to allow use of a standard tailwheel assembly.

Norm

[paiken]

I don't know, looks more like a ...ahem... model, airplane. :icon_lol: