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TuFun
May 24th, 2013, 21:11
Finally have some time to fly this bird. To busy to enjoy my favorite hobby! :frown:


http://youtu.be/aFGFkRxnG6s

rayhere48
May 24th, 2013, 21:58
Man you sure do great work. I love the used warn paint job. Is that a payware Albatross? I sure do love your videos. Again great job on the vid and plane paint.

TuFun
May 24th, 2013, 22:33
Man you sure do great work. I love the used warn paint job. Is that a payware Albatross? I sure do love your videos. Again great job on the vid and plane paint.

Virtavia FSX Grumman Albatross is payware. This a basic paint that's included with the model, but I do plan on doing an accurate version some time in the future. I created startup effects (wip) and textured the engines as new. I picked this up, plus the C-87 when they were on sale.

mjahn
May 25th, 2013, 00:01
You sure do some great videos. No frills, no music, just the unadulterated sound of engines. Love it.

Rimshot
May 25th, 2013, 01:52
Very nice! What runway textures do you use?

Daveroo
May 25th, 2013, 07:27
i mean no offence to the other great video makers on this site and other sites as well.but this is the way a flight sim video should be presented...with aircraft and environment sounds...not with head banger (to me personally ,very irritating scream fest garbage)music,i want to hear the airplane sounds,,the engines,the flap sounds ( if there are any) the gear whine,ect..this one had the sound of birds ,made my cat crasy to begin..( i enjoyed that)..i was able to watch this entire video.....most of them i get just a minute or so into but the music ruins it for me and i turn em off.

big-mike
May 25th, 2013, 08:11
Can somebody please post the name of the HU-16 download file?
I bought the HU-16 years ago,but i cannot find her on my external HD.
A typical senior moment,i think.:redf:
Mike

TuFun
May 25th, 2013, 13:22
Very nice! What runway textures do you use?


REX Runway/Taxiways: Asphalt Runway 12

Helldiver
May 26th, 2013, 13:31
Nice video presentation but as a former head of the largest radome facilty, I have to believe that the radar is inoperative, or they just burned out the magnetron. The radome cannot "see" through silver paint.

TuFun
May 26th, 2013, 15:31
Nice video presentation but as a former head of the largest radome facilty, I have to believe that the radar is inoperative, or they just burned out the magnetron. The radome cannot "see" through silver paint.

Basically I'm planning on repainting these decommissioned birds as seen in these pics...

This one with the painted dome...
http://airlinerjets.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/n42my-grumman-g-111-albatross-9295.jpg?w=1024&h=683


This one with glass dome...
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2751/4350941793_33cde04200_o.jpg

mjrhealth
May 26th, 2013, 16:47
Yes yuou are right about that music, so few know how or when to have music, So mant videos where i have just turned off the sound or stopped watching. Yours was cool. maybe some coms to help.

Helldiver
May 26th, 2013, 17:30
I'm not against paint. The airlines do it all the time. It's silver paint that I say will reflect everything back into the magnetron. Silver paint is conductive. But to get best transmission we always advocate hi-emissivity black paint.
But it's your airplane. Do as you see fit. But our engineers designed the radome used on the HU-16. If it was made of glass, then somebody did some fancy grinding. It's not a simple sheet of fiberglas. Like an optic. you got to look a the angle the dish is looking through as it turns. So the thickness will vary across the scope of the dish.
Otherwise, like a badly made optic. things will be disorted from where the appear to be.

Paul Domingue
May 26th, 2013, 17:59
As always another very enjoyable video to watch.

dvj
May 26th, 2013, 18:08
Great video production. All that was missing was a little musical soundtrack. :mix-smi:

TuFun
May 26th, 2013, 19:45
I'm not against paint. The airlines do it all the time. It's silver paint that I say will reflect everything back into the magnetron. Silver paint is conductive. But to get best transmission we always advocate hi-emissivity black paint.
But it's your airplane. Do as you see fit. But our engineers designed the radome used on the HU-16. If it was made of glass, then somebody did some fancy grinding. It's not a simple sheet of fiberglas. Like an optic. you got to look a the angle the dish is looking through as it turns. So the thickness will vary across the scope of the dish.
Otherwise, like a badly made optic. things will be disorted from where the appear to be.

Thanks for the info. Mainly the glassed nosed civil aircraft are just for viewing.

This one from TP HU-16, N98TP
87797

TuFun
May 26th, 2013, 19:51
Great video production. All that was missing was a little musical soundtrack. :mix-smi:

I prefer the music of P&W, C&W, R&R, Allison and many more! ;)

expat
May 27th, 2013, 01:25
Thanks for the info. Mainly the glassed nosed civil aircraft are just for viewing.

This one from TP HU-16, N98TP
87797

Love the photo Ted! Now if you have ever heard of the Grumman "Iron Works", that picture says it all!

big-mike
May 27th, 2013, 07:00
Found her on a external HD.
I have version 1.0,was there ever an update released?
Mike

TuFun
May 27th, 2013, 13:57
Nice video presentation but as a former head of the largest radome facilty, I have to believe that the radar is inoperative, or they just burned out the magnetron. The radome cannot "see" through silver paint.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/27/khOgY.jpg

expat
May 28th, 2013, 04:57
Having done the TP Aero H500 who better than you TuFun to tackle this glorious HU-16 in quality HD?? It looks like it has the same owner as the Howard!

http://tpaero.com/AlbatrossEssay/01.html

TuFun
May 28th, 2013, 09:58
Having done the TP Aero H500 who better than you TuFun to tackle this glorious HU-16 in quality HD?? It looks like it has the same owner as the Howard!

http://tpaero.com/AlbatrossEssay/01.html

There's actually two of them similarly painted like this... N98TP and N42MY (G-111)!

http://www.aviationwa.org.au/ACPhotos/Photos-David_Eyre/20130216_N42MY_David_Eyre-1.jpg

yankeeromeo
May 29th, 2013, 02:19
nice Plane, one of my favourite. I'm dreaming of an A2Acusimed Albatross for FSXA:pop4:
especially the SHU-16B or the HU-16Bwith the mickey nose:costum:...
:ernae:

87887

expat
May 29th, 2013, 07:12
Hey, what is the trick to getting the engines to fire on manual startup? Might be some ignition or mag switches looking at the checklist. I don't see a manual anywhere with a panel layout and can't read the fuzzy gauge labels with my fuzzy eyesight!

expat
May 29th, 2013, 08:07
I am thrilled TuFun is doing his magic on this. To be very honest, this one has stayed in my "disappointing payware" folder until revived recently. I have flown the now ancient Greg Pepper/Michael Verlin version with many updates much more and frankly - IMHO - this freeware exterior model better resembles the shape of the plane IRL.

I also find the Virtavia 'tross textures all have this odd all-over monochromatic sketched-in-lead-pencil look. I am not a painter but suspect it might be something to do with the bump mapping which was relatively new at the time and maybe someone took a bit too far.

What I personally would like to see is a much more smooth high gloss, hard enamel look which is what TuFun achieved on the TP Howard and also how you find the 30 or so HU-16's that are flying today.

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/3ydd3ts/Albatross_3.jpg
vs.
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../6/1312694.jpg (http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/9/6/1312694.jpg)

http://www.pcaviator.com.au/store/im...batross_10.jpg (http://www.pcaviator.com.au/store/images/D/Albatross_10.jpg)
vs.
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../2/1827205.jpg (http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/0/2/1827205.jpg)

Some may just see this difference as "wear" but others do wear well but differently and to my eyes this doesn't look right and detracts from the enjoyment, though could be my card, envmap, screen, eyes!!

TuFun
May 29th, 2013, 08:47
Looking at a bunch of skins on the real birds, this FSX version basics are way off. Sorta a blanket of double rivets just thrown over it. I was hoping I could just paint over it and the bump mapping will be something I will need to learn also.

Well at least there is a good benchmark to follow...

http://www.seawings.co.uk/images/HU-16%20Albatross%20-%20unpainted%20-%20WR%20ex%20Igor%20Kolokolov/01.jpg

...single rivets... double or more on the panel lines! Look at the hatch rivet pattern... so much to fix on the FSX model! :isadizzy:

http://www.seawings.co.uk/images/HU-16%20Albatross%20-%20unpainted%20-%20WR%20ex%20Igor%20Kolokolov/40.jpg

expat
May 29th, 2013, 09:33
I have suspected it is the vast number of rivets - the enthusiasm with having bump mapping at the time - and the way light reflects off of them at most angles, is what gives it the all over fuzzy grey shadow look. Maybe experiment with removing the bump mapping altogether (away from my fsx machine at the moment)?

TuFun
May 29th, 2013, 10:39
Interesting pattern choice? Same double rivets everywhere! Soon as I get done with some other stuff and have some spare time, I will tackle this bird.


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/29/eowir.jpg


Even on the landing gear doors...


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/29/LQV0X.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/29/TexjZ.jpg


Floats! :isadizzy:


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/29/lwvOx.jpg

Engines are new, did a real quick job on them for now. Only need to find the texture for the spark ring.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/29/K9wN.jpg

Sieggie
May 29th, 2013, 12:33
Certainly a lot of rivets for the rivet counters to count!

Dave

expat
May 30th, 2013, 12:33
I am finding that by disabling/removing the "spec" textures in the the common texture folder helps quite a lot improve the look and rivet prominence. You are left with very matt/flat paint finishes though . .