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Tom Burnside
March 8th, 2013, 04:16
Whats the best one out there for FS9 ive always liked this bird.

expat
March 8th, 2013, 04:42
Well, that's not difficult. Manfred Jahn & Co did the whole series and they are wonderful.

SteveB
March 8th, 2013, 04:45
I second that reccomendation, I am not a big civil aircraft flyer but I do like Manfred and teams connie's.



Steve

Tom Burnside
March 8th, 2013, 05:08
Well, that's not difficult. Manfred Jahn & Co did the whole series and they are wonderful.

Thanks guys where could I find it.

pfflyers
March 8th, 2013, 06:03
Here's something from AVSIM to get you started:




Category: Flight Simulator 2004 - Original Aircraft (http://library.avsim.net/index.php?CatID=fs2004ac)


Lockheed L-749 Constellation Base Pack
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Lockheed L-749 Constellation Base Pack (Download #141034) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141034)
Enhanced VC textures and 'VC Repaint Kit' for Lockheed L-749 Constellation (Download #141814) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141814)

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File Description:
Dimensionally identical to the first-generation Constellation (L-049), the post-war 749 had more powerful engines, additional fuel tanks, strengthened landing gear, and much improved performance. Equally good for shuttle hops and long-range flights, L-749 Connies entered service with major 1950s carriers such as Eastern, TWA, B.O.A.C., Air France, KLM, Quantas, and many others. Another customer was the Air Force, which placed an order for ten aircraft (designated C-121A) in 1948.

Included in this sim package are seven models and five textures, covering variants with and without "Speedpak" cargo pannier, weather radar, and "jetstack" exhausts. KLM texture by Jaap de Baare (representing "Flevoland", the last 749 in flying condition today). TWA texture N6003C "Star of America" by Hans Herrmann. EAL, Air France, and MATS textures by Manfred Jahn (including "8609", a frequent visitor to airshows all over the world until 2005). Panel textures and additional gauges by Diego S. Barreto, model and VC by Manfred Jahn, panels, gauges, and animations by Hansjoerg Naegele, flight dynamics by Luis Pallas, wingview angles, lights, and exhaust effects by Bill Tyne and Roland Berger, checklist and documentation by Volker Boehme, flight test and handling research by Stefan Werner. The 749 project has been hosted by Tom Gibson's Calclassic forum at http://calclassic.proboards55.com.




Filename:
lockheed749.zip


License:
Freeware


Added:
5th December 2009, 04:07:37


Downloads:
16020


Author:
Manfred Jahn and 749 Team


Size:
37041kb

Sunny9850
March 8th, 2013, 06:34
Thanks for all the votes for our little project.

Volker recently answered the what do I need question over at CalClassic quite completely:

Hi all,

as promised yesterday, here's a list of the files required to get a current install of the Constellation series (as of Feb. 2013). It does not include minor variations like the ex-WV-1 or the spray planes. All files are available for download at Flightsim.Com.

L-49:
Basepack: lockheed_l-49_v1_0.zip
Additional weather radar model: l-49_weather__radome.zip

L649/749:
Basepack: lockheed749.zip
Improved VC textures by Jan Visser: 749vcpaint.zip
Improved visual model, required by some, but not all repaints: 749_models_update.zip
Upgraded flight dynamics: l749_fde_upgrade.zip
Further improved flight dynamics that give better handling on taxi: constellation_taxi_fde_upgrade.zip

L1049:
Basepack 1049G airliner: l1049g.zip
Basepack 1049H freighter/combi: l1049h.zip
Performance charts: super_constellation_performance_charts.zip
Flight dynamics update: super_constellation_fde_upgrade.zip
Again, further improved flight dynamics that give better handling on taxi: constellation_taxi_fde_upgrade.zip

RC/EC-121 Warning Stars require the installation of these basepacks.
EC-121D, EC-121T: wv2-1.zip
RC-121C, EC-121M: wv2-2a.zip
Search radar to pick up AI traffic (FS9 only): warning_star_radar_upgrade.zip

L-1649A:
The latest release is current and does not need any further add-ons: lockheed_l-1649a_4_0.zip

L-1249 Turboprop Constellation: No upgrade so far on Manfred's original release.

I hope this helps you to.

Best regards,
Volker

This pretty much gets you everything from the L-049 to the L-1649A

Cheers
Stefan

wombat666
March 8th, 2013, 07:51
Simply the best!!!

82533
:applause::applause::applause:

Matt Wynn
March 8th, 2013, 08:28
darn it Wombat! you've got me drooling for the Breitling Connie at RIAT this year now!

i'd agree though the connies mentioned here are the best there are (in my opinion) they really take you back to an era when flying was about the crew and not the electronic 'gizmos', for long flights map-plotting, dead-reckoning and astro-nav are always a fun experience in these girls, as is the VFR Element... things like saying to yourself "According to the map, in 20 minutes we should pass this bend in the river at our 10 o'clock" great looking, great flying and a real joy to have in the virtual hangar!

lemonadedrinker
March 8th, 2013, 08:49
Hi,
Just a mention of John Howard White and FSDzigns wonderful model.

Jagdflieger
March 8th, 2013, 09:06
Thanks for that list Stefan. The number of models, updates and what not of this superlative effort is now well organized.

Tom Burnside
March 8th, 2013, 12:02
Simply the best!!!

82533
:applause::applause::applause:

Is this included in the pack.

Jagdflieger
March 8th, 2013, 13:38
Yes it is. In fact there are numerous military skins and models available.

For the model you ask about, look for:

ec21r.zip

Sunny9850
March 8th, 2013, 16:51
Thanks for that list Stefan. The number of models, updates and what not of this superlative effort is now well organized.

Volker deserves the thanks for the list, I simply copied his post here :)

One more word on our entire series. For anyone who has not yet flown them these are rather complex aircraft despite their by modern standards old fashioned systems. Or rather because of them.
We took great pains to recreate these airplanes as faithfully as possible, within the limits of FS. That means they do need a bit of pilot training to be flown correctly and successfully.
There are certain failures built into these aircraft that correspond to bad things happening in the real airplane if certain parameters were exceeded.
For example if you simply shove the throttles to the firewall and leave them there you will experience engine failures. The R-3350 is a very powerful engine, but it also needs to be managed carefully.

Do yourself a favor and read the documentation we provide with each aircraft and take a little time to get to know these ladies. They are different enough to read all of them.

One other feature is the Status Window or virtual Flight Engineer you can access via right click on the check list icon. This gives easy access to information that the FE would normally provide to the PIC and especially in the beginning lets you see if you are doing things within the limits.
Red engine indications.....bad.
You can also fix a common early flight PIC created failure of the hydraulic system if you extend flaps or gear above their limit speeds. Right clicking the red hydraulic status will send the virtual FE out with a roll of duct tape and refill the reservoir if you are now below the Vfe or Vle speeds.

And finally a note to the folks who like to modify things. In this case you may want to leave well enough alone, because in our experience many user mods end up causing the hidden systems that make these aircraft work to fail. The panel.cfg and aircraft.cfg files do need to match in order for the systems to work.

Cheers
Stefan

andersel
March 8th, 2013, 23:15
Hi,
Just a mention of John Howard White and FSDzigns wonderful model.

I second this recommendation. EMPHATICALLY!!!

LA

thunder100
March 9th, 2013, 01:29
Volker deserves the thanks for the list, I simply copied his post here :)

One more word on our entire series. For anyone who has not yet flown them these are rather complex aircraft despite their by modern standards old fashioned systems. Or rather because of them.
We took great pains to recreate these airplanes as faithfully as possible, within the limits of FS. That means they do need a bit of pilot training to be flown correctly and successfully.
There are certain failures built into these aircraft that correspond to bad things happening in the real airplane if certain parameters were exceeded.
For example if you simply shove the throttles to the firewall and leave them there you will experience engine failures. The R-3350 is a very powerful engine, but it also needs to be managed carefully.

Do yourself a favor and read the documentation we provide with each aircraft and take a little time to get to know these ladies. They are different enough to read all of them.

One other feature is the Status Window or virtual Flight Engineer you can access via right click on the check list icon. This gives easy access to information that the FE would normally provide to the PIC and especially in the beginning lets you see if you are doing things within the limits.
Red engine indications.....bad.
You can also fix a common early flight PIC created failure of the hydraulic system if you extend flaps or gear above their limit speeds. Right clicking the red hydraulic status will send the virtual FE out with a roll of duct tape and refill the reservoir if you are now below the Vfe or Vle speeds.

And finally a note to the folks who like to modify things. In this case you may want to leave well enough alone, because in our experience many user mods end up causing the hidden systems that make these aircraft work to fail. The panel.cfg and aircraft.cfg files do need to match in order for the systems to work.

Cheers
Stefan

+ 2

And I also recommend 2 more things.

if you really want to master a Connie (pls think you do the job of 3 people in the real plane)

a.)read the FSAviator Propliner tutorial at Cal Classic
b.)Plan your descend-->Connies are very clean and therefore if you take an Jetliner descend approach you will come in way too fast.Yes in some of them the main wheels serve as air brakes,but if you engage them to early-hydraulic pressure will fail and then you will have lots of additional fun

Best regards

Roland

Ferry_vO
March 9th, 2013, 02:09
Hi,
Just a mention of John Howard White and FSDzigns wonderful model.

Though I don't fly that aircraft anymore since the release of Manfred's models, I do still use the soundset included in that aircraft for all Connies. It is simply spot-on!

wombat666
March 9th, 2013, 05:53
Hi,
Just a mention of John Howard White and FSDzigns wonderful model.

Still in my 'Hangers' and still flown from time to time just 'because'.
:applause:

Bjoern
March 9th, 2013, 12:12
Well, I prefer the DC-6/7...

*Runs out of thread giggling*

:icon_lol:




(I all seriousness, the Connie is great team effort. Not my cup of tea, but a great regardless. It's also amazing that it still receives the occasional update!)

Volker Böhme
March 10th, 2013, 03:25
Hi,
Just a mention of John Howard White and FSDzigns wonderful model.

Hi,

his engine wireframe mesh lives on in our L-49.

Best regards,
Volker

Sunny9850
March 10th, 2013, 06:59
Well, I prefer the DC-6/7...

*Runs out of thread giggling*

:icon_lol:




(I all seriousness, the Connie is great team effort. Not my cup of tea, but a great regardless. It's also amazing that it still receives the occasional update!)

Well, not every one can handle three pieces of tail at the same time ;) For those who can't there are the Dougs

Stefan

Bjoern
March 10th, 2013, 11:41
Well, not every one can handle three pieces of tail at the same time ;)

And banana shaped fuselages.

And lower cruise speeds.

And more range.

:icon_lol:

Sunny9850
March 10th, 2013, 12:33
Dolphin shaped. One of the most hydrodynamically perfect shapes. On a banana both the top and the bottom typically curve in the same direction. Not so on the Connie.

Cruise speed records were traded back and forth between the different versions of each manufacturer. Don't compare apples and oranges.

Same as for the speeds...range while carrying equal loads.

The Doug's do have one clear victory though...price.

PeteHam
March 10th, 2013, 17:30
Dolphin shaped. One of the most hydrodynamically perfect shapes. On a banana both the top and the bottom typically curve in the same direction. Not so on the Connie.

Cruise speed records were traded back and forth between the different versions of each manufacturer. Don't compare apples and oranges.

Same as for the speeds...range while carrying equal loads.

The Doug's do have one clear victory though...price.



The Connie is sexy ..... the Douglas is utilitarian :icon_lol:

Love 'em both though. :jump:

Pete.

Tom Burnside
March 12th, 2013, 14:05
Is there a DC6 out there to.

Tom Clayton
March 12th, 2013, 15:02
Is there a DC6 out there to.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=search&fsec=0&fname=DC6_V20.ZIP

Jagdflieger
March 12th, 2013, 16:46
Tom,

If you're interested in Connies and Dougs, Make a visit to Calclassics. Lots of really great prop liners over there as well as scenery and AI to support 'em.

www.calclassic.com

SSI01
March 13th, 2013, 06:13
Jagd is right. I use CalClassic's period scenery and AI on my iterations of FS9 depicting flight in the 50s and 60s. Outstanding in every way. Even the AI aircraft and call signs are period-specific. You can't ask for better than that!:salute:

lemonadedrinker
March 13th, 2013, 07:36
Hi,
As well as all the wonderful things mentioned that can be found at calclassic there are also classic charts and a whole archive from FSAviator about Propliner flying in all it's forms. Genius writings.

Andy.

Tom Clayton
March 13th, 2013, 08:21
Been there quite a few time - just never signed up for the board. I have an "eclectic" taste in aircraft, and generally, the bigger, the better. For props, I like JBK's Brabazon - when I'm not flying a Connie. If I get in the mood to burn Kerosene, I fly the A380 or C-5 fully loaded.

Sunny9850
March 13th, 2013, 08:52
I think it is safe to say that without CalClassic the Connies would not be what they are today. Tom and many others over there were invaluable in their contributions both in real code and information.
Tom even provided the voice for the engine start sequence and the V-Speed call out.

The site is a treasure trove of knowledge and friendly support that is simply the unequaled peak of the community.

Cheers
Stefan

beana51
March 13th, 2013, 09:05
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It was a golden age of passenger flying...to fly then was an event...a time to dress appropriately...of service,concern, civility,politeness,safety..Never more to be seen,or experienced again....The "CONNIE" from the mind of Howard Hughes..This in a different day,and a different way.Now .so long ago !!..Vin!! http://images.proboards.com/wink.gif


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tgibson
March 13th, 2013, 09:52
Thanks for the plug, guys. :)

Tom Gibson
CalClassic Propliners

SSI01
March 13th, 2013, 10:00
Maybe part of the draw for the piston-powered airliners was that all the mechanical movement was on the outside of the airplane, where you could see the "results" of all the noise by seeing those whirling props. It's like the difference between a diesel locomotive and a steam locomotive - with a steam loco, the action's where you can see it - that's for sure. The comments about that being a bygone era, never to return, are exactly right. That's true in more ways than just air travel, by the way.

Sunny9850
March 13th, 2013, 15:02
Well who knows, there are still a couple ventures trying to revive the airships and their even more glorious way of stately travel through the air.
But as for the golden age of round engines and whirling props and passengers that treated travel like something special and dressed for the occasion....yes those days are gone.

Stefan

aeronca1
March 14th, 2013, 08:00
The Connie has a very special place in my heart. It was in one that I had my first commercial flight. I can remember it like it was yesterday. Very exciting times for a young lad.

Willy
March 14th, 2013, 12:26
When it comes to propliners, the Manfred Jahn L749 is near the top of the list with me. But the JBK Boeing 307 Stratoliner will always be at the top of the list.

California Classics is one of my regular stops for FS.