Virtavia Mi-24D Hind ... Released

[SeanTK]

http://www.virtavia.com/gallery_Mi-24D.html

[Dain Arns]

Only had a few minutes before work to fly it a bit.
Liked the VC, exterior looks good, but....

Noticed the Torque gauge (listed as Engine RPM gauge in the manual) was not working as it should, it stayed pegged at 100% all the time, despite the position of the collective.
Looking at the panel config, it appears to me it's hard coded into the model.
(I was flying the Russian Winter camo version, so not sure if its just that model)

Get a chance to wring it out more after work.

[Hanimichal]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/02/25/BtjbJ.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/02/25/Mz5mG.jpg

[Flyboy208]

Love it! My all time favourite attack helo ... well done Virtavia! Mike :applause:

[Flyboy208]

Surprising that there is not more interest in this thread, anyhoo, more pix to share ... Mike :wiggle:

[Daube]

It looks realy good.

[mal998]

Why make a point of telling everyone you're not going to buy it?

Why not just not buy it and not say anything?

Makes it sound like you got a bone to pick with Virtavia.

The few deveopers that are left could live very nicely without negative comments from people who don't like them for whatever the reason.

The flightsim community is shrinking and I will support every single developer that is still providing us with new models, because at the end of the

day there is a very good possibilty there won't be very many developers providing new payware.

That's just my opinion, nothing more.

[Daube]

It looks really good.

[GB]

Mal998 is absolutely correct, respect of other peoples' work is a must for a gentleman.

All people's like and dislike criteria are different, however they must be applied to a self owned product. If somebody doesn't appreciate a product without even having it, then, IMO it isn't usefull and proper to bash it and create a negative commercial environment for the developer. It is now widely accepted that developers get back a very small portion of their work/dedication to the product, so lets not make these profit margin even narrower.

Last but not least, IMO, It also not proper to spell words like "I won't buy" in new product announcement threads.

[Daube]

Ok.
I'm going to modify my previous posts to make them more compliant.

[assassinezzio]

Getting back to the subject of this thread, looks great in flyboys screenshots. Think I'll definitely give it a look.

[big-mike]

What do you think about the VC and the sound?
The pics on the Virtavia site are too small for me.
Thanks
Michael

[YoYo]

In Polish skin is a serious bug with Polish signs on the Mi-24D. I wrote to developer one month ago, see than They do nothing with this :\.

[skylineapa]

Is this a public forum or not? Anyway, I won't buy as well :mix-smi:

[Flyboy208]

I like the sounds alot, have never seen a real one fly, but from most of the videos I have seen, the FSX soundset is quite nice. Including some closeup views of the VC for those interested ... Cheers ! Mike :salute:

[Hanimichal]

In Polish skin is a serious bug with Polish signs on the Mi-24D. I wrote to developer one month ago, see than They do nothing with this :\.
What is?


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/02/28/S3XRr.jpg

sound, model, FDE, glass reflection, VC 3D with realistic texture, everything good

[Ferry_vO]

I like the sounds alot, have never seen a real one fly, but from most of the videos I have seen, the FSX soundset is quite nice. Including some closeup views of the VC for those interested ... Cheers ! Mike :salute:

Does it have the typical Hind whistling sound from the rotor blades..?

You can recognize a Hind from the sound it makes before you even see it.

And it certainly goes on my wishlist!

[Hanimichal]

Does it have the typical Hind whistling sound from the rotor blades..?

You can recognize a Hind from the sound it makes before you even see it.

And it certainly goes on my wishlist!

the sound made by Vance Dylan / Sonic Solutions
listening by yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLtjLHu6dpI

[Ferry_vO]

the sound made by Vance Dylan / Sonic Solutions
listening by yourself:


That sounds about right! Thanks for posting the video.

[big-mike]

Thank you Flyboy208 and Hanimichal,that helped a lot.:icon29:
Michael

[TeiscoDelRay]

Do all or most in cockpit switches, dials, gauges and other items work? Also is there any failures setup or consequences if something is not set correctly?

[big-mike]

Features :

- very high quality native FSX model.
- very high quality 3D cockpit.
- 3 texture sets and weapons loadouts.
- sharp, 2048-pixel bump- and spec-mapped textures.
- super-smooth 'RealGauge' 3D instruments.
- working windscreen wipers and ventilation fans.
- 4 x opening hatches.
- custom startup smoke effect.
- togglable, animated pilot figures.
- realistic undercarriage and retraction sequence.
- illustrated user manual in PDF format.
- high quality soundset.
- PhotoShop paintkit files provided (4096 pixel resolution).
- Note - NO 2D panel is provided.
- Note - Not all switches/knobs in cockpit are mousable.

[Dain Arns]

Do all or most in cockpit switches, dials, gauges and other items work? Also is there any failures setup or consequences if something is not set correctly?

No and no.

[Dain Arns]

Here are my thoughts after spending several hours in it...

This is an "entertainment" product only, IMHO.
There are no simulated systems other than the usual 'default' FSX ones, it's just a simple helicopter addon.
You get to fly around in a Hind-D and satisfy your imagination for about $30.

It is "old school" Alphasim, only obviously with a much better VC that what they used to offer many years ago.
Don't expect many switches to move.
Not all of the gauges seem to be working as intended either.
It's mostly a "Ctrl+E" starter.
It has a good model, and a very easy one sheet Paint Kit.
At sea level it was quite easy to "overspeed".

I personally would put it somewhere between an Area51 Sim offering and a low end Nemeth Design product to compare, that is not to be inferred as a bad or negative thing by anyone reading this.
I like Area 51's helicopter products, but they are not known for having sophisticated FDE's or systems either.
As indicated by the manual, the Hind-D FDE is based off of the default single engine Bell 206 template, so it flies like a heavy 206, IMHO.
I can offer that opinion after spending over a thousand hours in helicopters in FSX.

Do I like it? Yes.
Is it fun to fly? Yes, its very easy to fly and would recommend it to anyone who wants an easy stable helicopter for FSX.
Do I feel like wasted my money? Not really, honestly I was not expecting much, so no surprises.
Will it become one of my favorites? No.

:wavey:

[wapanomi]

Many many thanks for this useful review, and the wisdom of your point of view : exactly what I need as a simmer.

[Victory103]

Thanks Dain, nice to the point review. They are falling far behind other military based model designers with load out mangers and droppable weapons. This one of the most iconic gunships on the planet!

[SeanTK]

In the screenshots I'm seeing, it looks like the attitude indicators are reversed (roll)....is that the case?

[Hanimichal]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/QX0S.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/dsgE7.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/GQd15.jpg

[CG_1976]

Let's see, in the America's I think Brazil and Cuba are the major Hind user's? I guess this mean I'll bit and buy.

[Victory103]

Let's see, in the America's I think Brazil and Cuba are the major Hind user's? I guess this mean I'll bit and buy.

Don't forget Venezuela and Peru have Mi-35's.

[flaviossa]

But i think the american one´s are the "-M" version. With different tail rotor, modern avionics and different cannon disposition. Nothing that an artistic repainter view can´t take care of :icon_lol:

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[CG_1976]

All of Cuba's Hinds are the D export version, half are undergoing a upgrade on avionics, engines, and chin Radar/Gun. Cuba uses there famous Carib Camo. They also took delivery of 12 Mil 35's recently hum. Mi24's are operated by the 361Sq, 36th Fighter Reg and known to harass the US base of MUGM NAS when they feel frisky.

[SeanTK]

Just trying to follow up on this while I consider a purchase....

It looks like (from the screenshots both here and one on the actual Virtavia site) the attitude indicators are reversed in their roll axis. Is this still the case?

Also, I know that these addons apparently do not have in depth systems, but I'm wondering what, of the basic systems, is functional.
Finally, I'm curious to hear of any outstanding bugs that are present at this time.

It looks good visually, but I want to be a little bit more informed prior to purchase. Yes, I've read their "feature list" on the website.

[Prowler1111]

But i think the american one´s are the "-M" version. With different tail rotor, modern avionics and different cannon disposition. Nothing that an artistic repainter view can´t take care of :icon_lol:

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Venezuela uses the Mi-35M2, locally known as "Caribe", is a "new" version of the Mi-24, which includes a glass cockpit, and non retractable landing gear, it´s supposed to be as capable as a Mi-28 or at least comparable with it.
Brazil´s Mi-35M´s are locally known as AH-2 Sabre and are virtually the same version as the Venezuelan ones, but better equipped sensors wise (meaning the acquired a more complete package per aircraft)
Peru´s are Mi-25 Hind D (export version of the Mi-24D) and are somewhat a degraded version of the original Hind D, but last year some were refurbished, repaired and upgraded to what´s know locally as Mi-35P, which is nothing more than an overhaul to existing Mi-25´s, some avionics upgrade (nothing spectacular) and enhanced weapon capability, while not up to par with a "real" Mi-35, they are fairly better than the original Mi-24 Hind D from where they come from.
Cuba and Nicaragua where the only countries in the Americas and Caribbean that fielded up to date, sames as, the soviet version, Mi-24 Hind D´s, Sandinista Air Force Hinds where in service up to early 90´s in the past century, when they were sold to Peru for spares and to augment numbers (1 of which was lost during the 1995 war with Ecuador, either to a SA-14 or a Blowpipe MANPADS)
Best regards
Prowler

[Dain Arns]

Just trying to follow up on this while I consider a purchase....

It looks like (from the screenshots both here and one on the actual Virtavia site) the attitude indicators are reversed in their roll axis. Is this still the case? ....

Not reversed, Russian.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Western_and_Russian_Artificial_Horizon_Formats

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[SeanTK]

Not reversed, Russian.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Western_and_Russian_Artificial_Horizon_Formats

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The screenshot on page two still shows the artificial horizon angled in the wrong direction to the turn. It should either be flat with the miniature aircraft moving, or angled in the direction of the turn. The colored horizon line is slanting opposite of where the actual horizon line is.
On the screenshots on Virtavia's page, one can clearly see the adi indicating a bank to the left, when the aircraft is tilting right. On a right turn, either the orange miniature plane will show a right bank with a fixed background, or the horizon while angle to the right with a fixed miniature plane.

EDIT: not sure how else to explain...but on their gauge, if the orange miniature airplane symbol is doing what their brown and blue horizon background is doing right now, and the background is doing what the orange symbol is currently doing, then they would have it right. Try flight with no visual references to see what I mean.
Look at the turn at around 11:30 and later in this video to see what I mean, and compare it with the screenshots provided:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDyQn0NmOY

[warchild]

i can kinda see what he's saying though. in at least one way the russian artificial horizon is much more accurate than the americans because the horizon line shows the bank of the turn while the aircraft symbol shows the bank of the aircraft in relation to that turn.
Looking at the image on page two, it took a moment, but the big rectangular box that appears to be a horizon line on the top right of the panel i believe is a moving map or gps of some sort.. Dont know.. Just bought the plane, will let you know..
Pam

[SeanTK]

Yep, the big moving map is up there on the right. I'm talking about the center ADI and its backup to the lower right. I don't know how else to explain it...I understand the competing concepts of ADI representation, but regardless, it's reversed. On the virtavia page, the aircraft in one of the forward looking cockpit shots is shown in a right bank. The right side of the miniature airplane should be lower in the brown area. The horizon line should also be level with the view out the window. On the image in question, the LEFT side of the miniature plane is shown lower, while in a right bank, and the horizon line is tilted in the opposite direction to the view out the window of the actual horizon.
I don't know how to explain it..

[warchild]

yeahhh, ok, this is weird..
Since the aircraft remains in the same position relative to the gauge, the aircraft synbol does not move, but remains fixed to the aircrafts axial plane ( cant think of the correct terminology. sorry ). But whats weird is that the horizon line as we have become accustomed to it, shows the bank angle of the aircraft in relation too that above mentioned axial plane instead of in relationship to the horizon. This gauge does not fit with either of the supplied philosophies provided above. Its more like something out of a P-51 or 61 from world war two, painted over to look new.

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[SeanTK]

And as you can see in that screenshot, Pam....more ground is visible out the window on the left...while on the ADI gauges, more ground (brown) is visible on the right. It's backwards. :)

[warchild]

IIIIii dont know.. I spent some time in simulators for the bell jet ranger and wasnt ever able to even get it off the ground without crashing. I can fly this thing.. Now, I really dont think my chopper piloting skills have improved over the years, but who knows.. its still a fun bird to fly..

[warchild]

And as you can see in that screenshot, Pam....more ground is visible out the window on the left...while on the ADI gauges, more ground (brown) is visible on the right. It's backwards. :)

backwards yes, but more importantly the wrong gauge.. let me pull up the P-61 as an example.. I believe it has a similar gauge.
Yup same gauge, just without the pretty colors and its backwards.. Someone miss a minus sign??? I mean, unless someone can show evidence that this gauge actually exists, i'm more likely to take it as an insult not only to the peoples of the countries represented, but the members of this community as well.. I know how meticulous Robert has been with the P-61 and i know his gauge is right.. So that leaves the conclusion that the attitude gauge in the mil-24 is backwards.. hopefully there'll be an update correcting this..

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[warchild]

Not reversed, Russian.
http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Western_and_Russian_Artificial_Horizon_Formats

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Great example Dain. thank you. although i agree that with the modified WWII gauge in the MI-24 displays backwards in relation to what it should be showing, I really like the russian gauge above as it gives you actual bank angle, and the effective bank angle ( again, i'm being weak on terminology. perhaps vectored bank angle?) Its much more exacting.
Sadly though, that is not what we're seeing in the hind..

[Dain Arns]

Great example Dain. thank you. although i agree that with the modified WWII gauge in the MI-24 displays backwards in relation to what it should be showing, I really like the russian gauge above as it gives you actual bank angle, and the effective bank angle ( again, i'm being weak on terminology. perhaps vectored bank angle?) Its much more exacting.
Sadly though, that is not what we're seeing in the hind..

You're welcome.
Just passing along what the manual stated.
Only explanation I could give, but I agree with you and Sean.
Seems like a lot of gauges don't work as they should in this one.
The engine RPM gauge just stays pegged at 100% for example.
The blade AOA gauge is a nice thought, but sadly not synced properly either, IMHO.

It is quite an easy flyer.
It's nice for long NOE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nap-of-the-earth) flights.

[ZsoltB]

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/110/24860362.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/8682/27695096.jpg

[Dain Arns]

Excellent repaints, zsoltquack! :applause:

[warchild]

I agree with Dain Zolt.. Those paints look really good.. please do more :)

[ZsoltB]

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/6342/28658635.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img688/301/14589959.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/4584/29294941.jpg

[ZsoltB]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/QX0S.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/dsgE7.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/GQd15.jpg

This is repaint available?
And what scenery of background?

Zsolt

[Hanimichal]

the scenery is Damascus OS63 + OSDI. Is never be finished, so never be uploaded, you can try it here https://www.box.com/s/we2pkp7yrog3npqd0v3e

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/JqoHG.jpg



The Hind paint has been updated

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/Fx6r.jpg



And another one "Brazilian" is coming

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/3JQGK.jpg
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[flaviossa]

Amazing work Hani! :salute:

[ZsoltB]

Nice work!!! :salute:
Thank you!

http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1826/62741582.jpg

[Flyboy208]

Nice work!!! :salute:
Thank you!

http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1826/62741582.jpg

Nice work Hani and Zsolt ! Zsolt, which airbase scenery are you using? Looks great ! Mike :salute:

[ZsoltB]

Here the scenery: http://www.avsimrus.com/f/fsx-sceneries-83/ukhw-fsx-chuguev-betta-versiya-48139.html

[Flyboy208]

Cheers Zsolt ! Mike :wavey:

[Flyboy208]

the scenery is Damascus OS63 + OSDI. Is never be finished, so never be uploaded, you can try it here https://www.box.com/s/we2pkp7yrog3npqd0v3e

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/JqoHG.jpg



The Hind paint has been updated

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/Fx6r.jpg



And another one "Brazilian" is coming

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/07/3JQGK.jpg
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Hani, so happy you are doing a Brasil Hind livery ! Mike :applause:

[fsafranek]

We went back and forth on the Attitude gauge during development. Watch videos. This one is somewhere between Western style and Russian style. Drove me nuts since I know the difference but this is correct. And because of that I don't know why that graphic on the differences remained in the manual since it didn't show how this one works.
:ernae:

[skyhawka4m]

as usual.....painters sell these things and I wish the Dev's would recognize that more. Thanks to these paints I will be picking this one up.

[warchild]

We went back and forth on the Attitude gauge during development. Watch videos. This one is somewhere between Western style and Russian style. Drove me nuts since I know the difference but this is correct. And because of that I don't know why that graphic on the differences remained in the manual since it didn't show how this one works.
:ernae:


Welll, I try not to pay too much attention to these things.. I know that f the ground is above me, i'm in trouble :;lol:;.. everything else can be coped with..

[fsafranek]

Welll, I try not to pay too much attention to these things.. I know that f the ground is above me, i'm in trouble :;lol:;.. everything else can be coped with..
:ernae:

[fsafranek]

as usual.....painters sell these things and I wish the Dev's would recognize that more. Thanks to these paints I will be picking this one up.
As both a painter on the dev side and as a repainter, I hear you.
:ernae:

[SeanTK]

We went back and forth on the Attitude gauge during development. Watch videos. This one is somewhere between Western style and Russian style. Drove me nuts since I know the difference but this is correct. And because of that I don't know why that graphic on the differences remained in the manual since it didn't show how this one works.
:ernae:

Yep, I have seen plenty of videos. You did model it with functionality between western style and Russian style, but the horizon line indicator is still reversed. The guage operates correctly in principle, but is showing opposite bank angle to the aircraft's actual position.

Look at this image. The blue airplane at the center is looking at the rear of the aircraft. The horizon line on the "russian guage" is tilting in the direction of the aircraft's bank.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/learmount/fint-HORIZON-%28SEND%29.jpg

I don't want to continually pester on this, but I'm puzzled why this is such a hard issue to understand. I'll give up at this point, since it seems that the few here who can fix it can't visualize the proper orientation.
I can't see how one can fly using the included attitude indicator for reference at all since the horizon line is showing a turn/bank in the opposite direction. If the brown and blue colors were inversed, things would be good. The blue/brown horizon line on the included ADIs in the screenshots should tilt to match your view out the window (along with the symbolic airplane tilting to show rate) depending on your orientation. Oh well. Enjoy the helicopter, but I would be wary of maneuvering extensively in the clouds. At least it does like like a beautiful 3d model.

[Flyboy208]

Obrigado Hani! Mike :salute:

[Hanimichal]

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[warchild]

ya know, the hind is a downright homely looking bird, but you made it look gorgeous Hani.. :) great job..

[strikehawk]

Welll, I try not to pay too much attention to these things.. I know that f the ground is above me, i'm in trouble :;lol:;.. everything else can be coped with..

Pam, I took it up this weekend and apart from the metric instruments had no trouble. Metric for me is problematic and I just eyeball everything as long as I'm not hitting trees and land on the right field I'm golden.

[skyhawka4m]

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This paint will seell it for me if its released

[SeanTK]

Absolutely stunning repaints! :)

Mr. Safranek, I just sent you a PM in regard to the following two images as supporting evidence of what I am sure is quite annoying persistence with the issue I identified.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mil-Mi-24D/1912331/L/

Note: I just found the above image and did not include it in the PM.

http://www.pixstel.com/hind-cockpit-view_picm106-10682.jpg

http://img.kazeo.com/165/1651581/XL/cockpit-tireur-d-un-mi24.jpg



For the repainters......a few ideas....

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1817

http://hdwallpaper.ws/30659/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xnir/4958626217/in/photostream/

[CG_1976]

Cuba Cuba :jump:

[fsafranek]

Hi. I just read your PM and looked again in the game. I'm not sure what happened because it is obviously wrong now and I'm sure it was ok before release -- I did get to fly it and verify the manual. I will relay my findings and the images you referenced to the developer. This is a nice chopper but needs this bit fixed.


Mr. Safranek, I just sent you a PM in regard to the following two images as supporting evidence of what I am sure is quite annoying persistence with the issue I identified.

[Hanimichal]

This will be my next

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[warchild]

that also looks awesome Hani.. think you could do a white wolf with blue eyes, like a skinwalker shaman??

[Hanimichal]

that also looks awesome Hani.. think you could do a white wolf with blue eyes, like a skinwalker shaman??

I do not know this painting, it is real? has references?

Above I was talking about this https://www.google.com.br/search?client=opera&q=Mil+Mi-35+Czech+-+Air+Force+(3361)&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-BR&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=BsU_UbrVM_Ky0QHJyYGgBg&biw=1883&bih=829&sei=g8U_UeCWKs-60QH9_oG4Dg

[fsafranek]

How about one in that scheme without the Tiger artwork as well. Just a regular "line" aircraft?


I do not know this painting, it is real? has references?

Above I was talking about this https://www.google.com.br/search?client=opera&q=Mil+Mi-35+Czech+-+Air+Force+(3361)&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-BR&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=BsU_UbrVM_Ky0QHJyYGgBg&biw=1883&bih=829&sei=g8U_UeCWKs-60QH9_oG4Dg

[warchild]

I do not know this painting, it is real? has references?

Above I was talking about this https://www.google.com.br/search?client=opera&q=Mil+Mi-35+Czech+-+Air+Force+(3361)&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-BR&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=BsU_UbrVM_Ky0QHJyYGgBg&biw=1883&bih=829&sei=g8U_UeCWKs-60QH9_oG4Dg


Nooo, its not real. at least not a real painting.. Skinwalkers are real, ask any Souix or Navajo, but the idea is total fantasy.. You see, America doesnt use the Hind. Yeah, we got some pretty good equipment of our own but well, candy always looks better from the other side of the counter if you know what i mean. I didnt know the tiger was real either ( shows how ignorant i can sometimes be )especially with the japanese kanji above it ( or is that katakana? I cant tell any more ). no matter what, its beautiful and very befitting this extraordinary bird ( the Hind, not the model: no offense intended towards Alphasim. they did a good job )

here's a good read on skinwalkers.. the skinwalker chronicles 1 & 2. Skinwalkers are maelevolent to the people they attack, jbut they arent mindless; they're shamans. Weird, bizaar, enigmatic, scary as hell and amazingly powerful.. Kind of like the Hind :D.
http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2010/12/skinwalker-chronicles.html
http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2011/06/skinwalker-chronicles-ii.html
Enjoy the read :).. they're mostly true stories.

[FSN]

That Canadian one would make this canuck happy.

[Flyboy208]

Your repaints are much appreciated Hani! Love this blue Czech scheme ... Mike :wiggle:

[skyhawka4m]

Agreed...and as I promised above........if this paint was made available...I would buy....so as of 15 mintues...I now own the MI-24....once again because of a talented painter. DEV's please take notice of this.


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[Hanimichal]

Thank you guys for the kind words.

[Hanimichal]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/20/0VMk.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/20/nHovu.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/20/2L0cf.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/20/YDcmE.jpg

[Fireball6]

Wow! - your paints are "must have's" for a Hind-Owner :mixedsmi: Great Job Hanimichal

Dirk

[fsafranek]

Absolutely stunning repaints! :)

Mr. Safranek, I just sent you a PM in regard to the following two images as supporting evidence of what I am sure is quite annoying persistence with the issue I identified.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mil-Mi-24D/1912331/L/

Note: I just found the above image and did not include it in the PM.

http://www.pixstel.com/hind-cockpit-view_picm106-10682.jpg

http://img.kazeo.com/165/1651581/XL/cockpit-tireur-d-un-mi24.jpg


Sorry for not getting back on this earlier. I did email the developer a week ago with what should have been sufficient description and images/video proof from SeanTK that there was indeed an issue.

Basically the blue/black halves of the ball should be angled to match the horizon in front of the aircraft -- Western style. The Virtavia Hind Artificial Horizon banks in the opposite direction. This makes it really difficult to know what your attitude actually is, especially at night.

However, the reversed Artificial Horizon will remain an issue until people who bought it bring it to the developer's attention via the tech support email in the manual. So those who have purchased it and want it fixed please send an email request to: tech.support -at- virtavia.com

[SeanTK]

I just received an email from Phil @ Virtavia saying that an update will be released in the coming days that fixes the attitude indicators and HUD!

[SeanTK]

In reference to my previous post, I just tested out the attitude indicator fix and it seems to work perfectly! I did note that the inclinometer below the main attitude indicator (showing slipping/skidding/coordinated turns) is non-functional, but that's just a very minor issue that I believe most can live with.
From my understanding, the attitude fix will be available within the coming days from the vendors.

[Hanimichal]

How to make external sound to be higher than of the VC?

[cortomalteseit]

Hanimichal's repaints are fantastic!!!
Congratulations, your shots looks like real photographs!!!

[Warrant]

How to make external sound to be higher than of the VC?

Second that question. The helo is excellent. Really enjoy flying it! But, the outside sound volume should be louder then the inside. Furthermore; doe anyone know if Virtavia will do more variants, or will update with an option to add cool air mixers to the exhausts as well as a chaff/flare kit on the tail (besides the ones just aft of the stubwings)?


But really....what a beast to fly! :medals:

[SeanTK]

Second that question. The helo is excellent. Really enjoy flying it! But, the outside sound volume should be louder then the inside. Furthermore; doe anyone know if Virtavia will do more variants, or will update with an option to add cool air mixers to the exhausts as well as a chaff/flare kit on the tail (besides the ones just aft of the stubwings)?


But really....what a beast to fly! :medals:

I can answer the variant question, but not the sound one.
After a brief email conversation with Phil (the head of Virtavia from my understanding), it sounds like this'll be the last helicopter for a while due to poor sales.

[fsafranek]

From the Virtavia site yesterday:


Update available for Mi-24D Hind cockpit ! The Artifical Horizons have been changed to the more familiar Western style of operation in the new version of the cockpit. Also the HUD horizon graphic has been altered to match the AH's. Version 1.1 of the Mi-24 will be uploaded to vendors today, it may however be several days before it can be accessed by owners of the model. To save time we can e-mail the new VC, gauges .cab and updated manual to anyone who can provide proof of their purchase. The files are small, only 3.4MB in total. Please use the e-mail address shown at the bottom of this page -- tech.support -at- virtavia.com.
:ernae:

[Hanimichal]

I like the gauges as is it now and I don't have any problem with the hud or elevator
But if any whey to change the sounds...



Hanimichal's repaints are fantastic!!!
Congratulations, your shots looks like real photographs!!!
Thank you and all other admirers of my paintings. Words like thats give cheer to paint more




... it sounds like this'll be the last helicopter for a while due to poor sales.
We all have personal preference and fancy in the FSX world, and this model /helicopter is my favorite

[Daveroo]

has anyone atempted to paint the hungarian eagle?....or is it a MI-35?.....would still look good on this one

[SeanTK]

Last time I checked the Hungarian Eagle Hind is technically an Mi-35 (exported Mi-24V) but it could be a Soviet-era holdout so there's a slight possibility that it's a vanilla -24V (not much of a difference anyway). I'm not clear on what's considered an export or not from the Russian perspective, since 90% of what I'm seeing regardless of country is designated as an Mi-24, not a -35.

Looks like they changed the Eagle livery up a little bit within the past couple years:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hungary---Air/Mil-Mi-24V/2228018/L/&sid=9d5912c5b1ee2dd8e86334fcc5960daa


Also for our repainters, I'm curious as to the possibility of these two liveries:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Georgian_Mi-24.jpg

http://www.strikehold.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/UN-MI-24.jpg

[delta_lima]

Great to know the instruments got sorted.

Echo the interest in a UN Hind - would be all over that! A little of Congolese grime / weathering would be nice too!

DL

[CG_1976]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Georgian_Mi-24.jpg
This a rare one for FS and a much needed to be represented on behalf there nation. Very rare for paints available.

[Hanimichal]

I have made this video using captain sim weapons (no video effects, only FSX)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l9ql-svaas

[ST0RM]

I have made this video using captain sim weapons (no video effects, only FSX)



Can you post your CS weapons profile for the Hind? I'd love to add that to mine and it seems that you've got it dialed in.

Jeff

[Victory103]

That vid probably just sold me on it for the 50% off sale. I have CS weapons pack but haven't used it as I prefer flying models that already releasable weapons (Raz, VRS). What's the point of having a gunship with no guns. I'll have to drum up profiles for the recently purchased A51 Longbow and Kiowa.

[Hanimichal]

Here is version 1 https://www.box.com/s/bc7uv53eymj8o7hrec0g

I am working in V2 with different explosion models and more sounds with weapons with low-poly

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/11/RAQfJ.jpg


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/05/11/p8O2.jpg

[ST0RM]

Thanks Hani,

Your work on the weapons placement just saved me a few hours of tweaking.

Speaking of tweaking, did anyone else get bad plots for the outside camera defination views? Mine are in between panels or well far behind the cargo bay, etc. Like someone added a decimal or digit to far to the back or left. They do not point to what they should. Only the pilot's cockpit works correctly.

Thanks you again!
Jeff

[Lawman]

I bought the Hind (v1.1) from PC Aviator USA. The download went fine and the byte-size was identical to that denoted on the website (122.121.804 bytes). Installation went without a hitch. However, on testing the different models I noticed that the artificial horizon on the models 2 and 3 (East German and Polish AF) was corrupt and the switches (and ventilation fan) in those models didn't move. The model 1 (Russian AF) was fine. I found that the "MDL Interior"-file of the models 2 and 3 was smaller than that of model 1 (4.785.302 bytes versus 4.843.050 bytes). So I just copied the "MDL Interior"-file of model 1 over to the other models (after backing up of course) and all is fine.

Before I contact either Virtavia and/or PC Aviator USA, has anyone noticed the same on their version and what is your filesize? As far as I can see there are 3 possibilities:

1) all versions are corrupt, regardless of reseller;
2) when Virtavia gave the new version to PC Aviator USA, that particular file got corrupted;
3) the file got corrupted when PC Aviator USA uploaded it to their servers.

P.S. I re-downloaded and re-installed, no difference.

[flaviossa]

There is a new version available today: 1.2
Unfortunatelly no changelog available at simmarket.com
Go get it :salute:

[Hanimichal]

I bought directly from virtavia, how to get the patch? there are no any information in the home page

[flaviossa]

Sorry Hani, can´t help you there. Bought thru simmarket.com
maybe contacting with them thru their email? tech.support@virtavia.com

Installed but there is no changelog anywhere to share in here.

[big-mike]

Anyone bought it at http://www.pcaviator.com/store/?
Is there version1.2 available?
Mailed Virtavia support hours ago,but still no answer.
Michael

[RKinkor]

Anyone bought it at http://www.pcaviator.com/store/?
Is there version1.2 available?
Mailed Virtavia support hours ago,but still no answer.
Michael
when i bought mine from pc aviator yesterday it was v 1.1

[RKinkor]

when i bought mine from pc aviator yesterday it was v 1.1Just checked @ pcaviator and it is v1.1 as of 5 minutes ago

[big-mike]

Just checked @ pcaviator and it is v1.1 as of 5 minutes ago

Thank you,still no answer from support.
Michael

[ST0RM]

Thank you,still no answer from support.
Michael

Good luck. They are pretty bad at replying to any email since the move to the Virtavia title.

[Hanimichal]

... and for those who like to use FSX weapons



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUP3cAYJRp0

[ST0RM]

... and for those who like to use FSX weapons

And thank you again for the profile. I've been having a blast "shooting" up the place in the Hind.

Will those Middle East repaints be released also?

[thefrog]

I bought this a few days in the sale (PC Aviator) and I'm puzzpled why pressing the A key in the vc takes me to co-pilot and rear cabin positions etc - but those parts of the vc aren't modelled. Is this from a previous version, or is this going to be modelled at point?
Dave

[big-mike]

Today i got thi mail from supprt:

Hello,

each vendor will make the new version available though their automatic update system, I’m sure you will get some communication from them soon. I'm pretty sure PC Aviator do not work at weekends so they have most likely not yet done anything with the file they were sent by us.

Phil,
Virtavia Support

Mike

[jojohnson9]

I bought the Hind (v1.1) from PC Aviator USA. The download went fine and the byte-size was identical to that denoted on the website (122.121.804 bytes). Installation went without a hitch. However, on testing the different models I noticed that the artificial horizon on the models 2 and 3 (East German and Polish AF) was corrupt and the switches (and ventilation fan) in those models didn't move. The model 1 (Russian AF) was fine. I found that the "MDL Interior"-file of the models 2 and 3 was smaller than that of model 1 (4.785.302 bytes versus 4.843.050 bytes). So I just copied the "MDL Interior"-file of model 1 over to the other models (after backing up of course) and all is fine.

Before I contact either Virtavia and/or PC Aviator USA, has anyone noticed the same on their version and what is your filesize? As far as I can see there are 3 possibilities:

1) all versions are corrupt, regardless of reseller;
2) when Virtavia gave the new version to PC Aviator USA, that particular file got corrupted;
3) the file got corrupted when PC Aviator USA uploaded it to their servers.

P.S. I re-downloaded and re-installed, no difference.

Yes, I had the same problem. I just flew the one working version until I just tried your fix. Now all is working. Hope version 1.2 fixes it. Thanks for the information.

[Lawman]

Version 1.2 is now up at PC Aviator USA and it fixes the non-functional artificial horizon and switches on the models 2 and 3:applause:.

[Victory103]

For those that purchased from FlightSim Pilot Shop, it was V1.1, not seeing the 1.2 upgrade yet under my account.

[WarHorse47]

For those that purchased from FlightSim Pilot Shop, it was V1.1, not seeing the 1.2 upgrade yet under my account.I purchased mine from FS Pilot Shop earlier today, and it's version 1.2. The download page says: "File Last Updated: Saturday, 18th May, 2013 @ 01:09am."

[ST0RM]

While only a visual mod (but does work in MP if others have it installed), I've added the FSX flare effect (http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=FSX+flare+effect&x=0&y=0) to my Mi-24 Hind.

The file can be found at Simviation for sure, and maybe the others.

Anyhow, here are the approx. coords for the Hind to have them firing where the ASO-2V is strapped on, under the tail boom.

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0=-15.00, 3.0, -3.0, fx_flareLH
smoke.1=-15.00,-3.0, -3.0, fx_flareRH

Enjoy the light show!

-Jeff

[JosefK]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/QX0S.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/dsgE7.jpg
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/05/GQd15.jpg

Where's this dudes?

[huub vink]

When you are looking for the person who made the repaint, just write him a PM as he is a regular visiting member of this site. When you are looking for the repaint do a search on "Hind" or "Hani Michal" at Flightsim.com.
When you are looking for the scenery, I'm afraid I can't help you.

Cheers,
Huub

[Hanimichal]

Where's this dudes?
This scenery is Damascus - Syria, but don't exist anymore. It was in very low quality work, only placing objects with Flight1 Instant Scenery
If you want good work syrian scenery here is the place : http://www.syriasim.org



When you are looking for the person who made the repaint, just write him a PM as he is a regular visiting member of this site. When you are looking for the repaint do a search on "Hind" or "Hani Michal" at Flightsim.com.
When you are looking for the scenery, I'm afraid I can't help you.

Cheers,
Huub
Thanks sir