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Ferry_vO
November 24th, 2012, 07:25
Slightly wet track in Q1, more rain expected, and more coming tomorrow!

Q1 results:

18: Grosjean
19: Petrov
20: Kovalainen
21: Glock
22: Pic
23: Karthikeyan
24: De La Rosa

Ferry_vO
November 24th, 2012, 07:45
Q2 results:

11: Di Resta
12: Senna
13: Perez
14: Schumacher
15: Kobayashi
16: Ricciardo
17: Vergne

Ferry_vO
November 24th, 2012, 08:03
Q3 Results:

1: Hamilton
2: Button
3: Webber
4: Vettel
5: Massa
6: Maldonado
7: Hulkenberg
8: Alonso
9: Raikkonen
10: Rosberg

Panther_99FS
November 24th, 2012, 09:01
My preference is for Alonso....

Mickey D
November 24th, 2012, 11:46
Hamilton to win the race. Alonso for the Drivers Championship.

Ferry_vO
November 24th, 2012, 13:37
It would be nice to have a different champion this year, but it will be difficult for Alonso as he will have to finish on the podium. If Alonso wins, Vettel will need to finish fifth or lower. If Alonso comes in second, Vettel needs a seventh place, and if Alonso finished third, Vettel only needs an eight place. Then again, we have seen strange things happen in the last race the past few years, even in Brazil...
Remember that wet race where Massa had the title for a few seocnds, until Hamilton passed Glock in the last corner of the very last lap and took the title..?

Full qualifying results:


<tbody>
Pos
No
Driver
Team
Q1
Q2
Q3
Laps


1
4
Lewis Hamilton (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/828.html)
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
1:15.075
1:13.398
1:12.458
21


2
3
Jenson Button (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/6.html)
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
1:15.456
1:13.515
1:12.513
20


3
2
Mark Webber (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/21.html)
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
1:16.180
1:13.667
1:12.581
22


4
1
Sebastian Vettel (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/822.html)
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
1:15.644
1:13.209
1:12.760
19


5
6
Felipe Massa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/18.html)
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
1:16.263
1:14.048
1:12.987
25


6
18
Pastor Maldonado (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/869.html)
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
1:16.266
1:13.698
1:13.174
24


7
12
Nico Hulkenberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/840.html)
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
1:15.536
1:13.704
1:13.206
23


8
5
Fernando Alonso (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/30.html)
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
1:16.097
1:13.856
1:13.253
25


9
9
Kimi Räikkönen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/12.html)
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
1:16.432
1:13.698
1:13.298
22


10
8
Nico Rosberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/809.html)
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
1:15.929
1:13.848
1:13.489
26


11
11
Paul di Resta (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/851.html)
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
1:15.901
1:14.121

18


12
19
Bruno Senna (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/845.html)
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
1:15.333
1:14.219

21


13
15
Sergio Perez (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/867.html)
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
1:15.974
1:14.234

21


14
7
Michael Schumacher (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/7.html)
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
1:16.005
1:14.334

17


15
14
Kamui Kobayashi (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/837.html)
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
1:16.400
1:14.380

24


16
16
Daniel Ricciardo (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/857.html)
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
1:16.744
1:14.574

22


17
17
Jean-Eric Vergne (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/870.html)
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
1:16.722
1:14.619

23


18
10
Romain Grosjean (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/838.html)
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
1:16.967


8


19
21
Vitaly Petrov (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/864.html)
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
1:17.073


14


20
20
Heikki Kovalainen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/813.html)
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
1:17.086


14


21
24
Timo Glock (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/791.html)
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
1:17.508


13


22
25
Charles Pic (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/890.html)
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
1:18.104


14


23
23
Narain Karthikeyan (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/805.html)
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
1:19.576


13


24
22
Pedro de la Rosa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/26.html)
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
1:19.699


12




Q1 107% Time

1:20.330




</tbody>
Note - Maldonado drops 10 grid spots after missing a call to the weigh bridge and thus receiving his third stewards reprimand of the season

wombat666
November 24th, 2012, 22:19
It might not happen but Ferrari are odds on favourites to play their "Gearbox Replacement" game on Massa's car.
Asked if he will "help" Vettel the reply from Mark was very brief and rather terse.
I don't care how they do it but I'm really plugging for Alonso this year, and a wet race will throw all the cards into the air. :icon29:

Ferry_vO
November 25th, 2012, 07:10
Already a very interesting race......

Ferry_vO
November 25th, 2012, 08:00
Go nico!! :jump:

Ferry_vO
November 25th, 2012, 09:05
What a fantastic race! :jump:

Great drives from Button and Alonso but also from Vettel, recovering from last on the first lap to sixth and take the title.

Results:



<tbody>
Pos
No
Driver
Team
Laps
Time/Retired
Grid
Pts


1
3
Jenson Button (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/6.html)
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
71
Winner
2
25


2
5
Fernando Alonso (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/30.html)
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
71
+2.7 secs
7
18


3
6
Felipe Massa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/18.html)
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
71
+3.6 secs
5
15


4
2
Mark Webber (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/21.html)
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
71
+4.9 secs
3
12


5
12
Nico Hulkenberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/840.html)
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
71
+5.7 secs
6
10


6
1
Sebastian Vettel (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/822.html)
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
71
+9.4 secs
4
8


7
7
Michael Schumacher (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/7.html)
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
71
+11.9 secs
13
6


8
17
Jean-Eric Vergne (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/870.html)
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
71
+28.6 secs
17
4


9
14
Kamui Kobayashi (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/837.html)
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
71
+31.2 secs
14
2


10
9
Kimi Räikkönen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/12.html)
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
70
+1 Lap
8
1


11
21
Vitaly Petrov (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/864.html)
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
70
+1 Lap
19



12
25
Charles Pic (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/890.html)
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
70
+1 Lap
22



13
16
Daniel Ricciardo (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/857.html)
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
70
+1 Lap
15



14
20
Heikki Kovalainen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/813.html)
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
70
+1 Lap
20



15
8
Nico Rosberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/809.html)
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
70
+1 Lap
9



16
24
Timo Glock (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/791.html)
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
70
+1 Lap
21



17
22
Pedro de la Rosa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/26.html)
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
69
+2 Laps
24



18
23
Narain Karthikeyan (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/805.html)
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
69
+2 Laps
23



19
11
Paul di Resta (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/851.html)
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
68
+3 Laps
10



Ret
4
Lewis Hamilton (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/828.html)
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
54
+17 Laps
1



Ret
10
Romain Grosjean (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/838.html)
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
5
+66 Laps
18



Ret
18
Pastor Maldonado (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/869.html)
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
1
+70 Laps
16



Ret
19
Bruno Senna (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/845.html)
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
0
+71 Laps
11



Ret
15
Sergio Perez (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/867.html)
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
0
+71 Laps
12

</tbody>

Ferry_vO
November 25th, 2012, 09:06
Drivers' championship:



<tbody>
Pos
Driver
Nationality
Team
Points


1
Sebastian Vettel (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/822.html)
German
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
281


2
Fernando Alonso (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/30.html)
Spanish
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
278


3
Kimi Räikkönen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/12.html)
Finnish
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
207


4
Lewis Hamilton (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/828.html)
British
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
190


5
Jenson Button (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/6.html)
British
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
188


6
Mark Webber (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/21.html)
Australian
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
179


7
Felipe Massa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/18.html)
Brazilian
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
122


8
Romain Grosjean (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/838.html)
French
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
96


9
Nico Rosberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/809.html)
German
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
93


10
Sergio Perez (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/867.html)
Mexican
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
66


11
Nico Hulkenberg (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/840.html)
German
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
63


12
Kamui Kobayashi (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/837.html)
Japanese
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
60


13
Michael Schumacher (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/7.html)
German
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
49


14
Paul di Resta (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/851.html)
British
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
46


15
Pastor Maldonado (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/869.html)
Venezuelan
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
45


16
Bruno Senna (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/845.html)
Brazilian
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
31


17
Jean-Eric Vergne (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/870.html)
French
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
16


18
Daniel Ricciardo (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/857.html)
Australian
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
10


19
Vitaly Petrov (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/864.html)
Russian
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
0


20
Timo Glock (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/791.html)
German
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
0


21
Charles Pic (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/890.html)
French
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
0


22
Heikki Kovalainen (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/813.html)
Finnish
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
0


23
Jerome D'Ambrosio (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/866.html)
Belgian
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
0


24
Narain Karthikeyan (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/805.html)
Indian
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
0


25
Pedro de la Rosa (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/driver/2012/26.html)
Spanish
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
0

</tbody>

Ferry_vO
November 25th, 2012, 09:06
Constructors' championship:



<tbody>
Pos
Team
Points


1
Red Bull Racing-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2973.html)
460


2
Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2974.html)
400


3
McLaren-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2972.html)
378


4
Lotus-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2983.html)
303


5
Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2975.html)
142


6
Sauber-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2977.html)
126


7
Force India-Mercedes (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2976.html)
109


8
Williams-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2979.html)
76


9
STR-Ferrari (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2978.html)
26


10
Caterham-Renault (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2980.html)
0


11
Marussia-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2981.html)
0


12
HRT-Cosworth (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/results/team/2012/2982.html)
0

</tbody>

Panther_99FS
November 25th, 2012, 09:51
Good see Lewis get a standing ovation at McLaren....
That being said, something must not be quite right at McLaren. I say this because prior to Lewis leaving, both Alonso & Raikkonen left too.....

Button is poised to be King at McLaren now - I think he'll mop the floor with Sergio.......

Helluva drive by Vettel today - against some long odds.....& "Kudos" to Alonso for a close second in a clearly inferior car to the Red Bull....