ORBX England is released

[jetstreamsky]

Is finally here http://fullterrain.com/product_eueng.html

[YoYo]

Is finally here http://fullterrain.com/product_eueng.html

Second! :icon_lol:
Yep! near 43$/34Eu:

http://www.flightsimstore.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=2211&osCsid=4mcahbt8oao9vc24fu2pg903g3

[Sundog]

:)

http://www.sdwaypoint.us/pics/P-51-23b.jpg

[full]

Downloading now:jump: only 1 hour to go.... but 8 hours before I finish work :icon_eek:

[TheGrunt]

Beautiful! Here is the link to .kmz. Area covered is even bigger than I expected.

http://fullterrain.com/kmz/FTX_EU_ENG.kmz

:applause:

[Bruce Thompson]

Downloading now, 1hr 53 min to go., looking forward to flying in the Lake District.

[Roger]

Apart from a few niggles I'm really enjoying my FTX England and in Dx10 too! I'd love to load some screenies but unfortunately Photobucket is knackered!
I've just flown from Compton Abbas and there is a brick building at the end of the hangars etc with a gray flashing polyon the end wall. Can anyone using Dx9 confirm if this is also present in Dx9?

[AndyE1976]

Does anyone know if they plan to release London as an upgrade? The version in the default package is horrible and their rendition of the Olympic park is incredibly basic. I had to keep looking to see that the Shard was still there to tell it hadn't reverted back to default. Lloyds of London is missing, the Mall is no longer red apparently, the science museum no longer exists nor Imperial college or Exhibition road. Also the trees look weird against the terrain textures, they're a bit bright. Maybe I just need to play with some settings, but so far not very impressed. Will have to try it with Aerosoft's London X re-enabled.

[Ian Warren]

a brick building at the end of the hangars etc with a gray flashing polyon the end wall. Can anyone using Dx9 confirm if this is also present in Dx9?
Roger , that a little problem that also happens with NZSI Christchurch airport and another issue you might find is a shadow chasing due models not being closed properly when made , fishing boats and a few airport objects this was most noticeable at NZNI Auckland .


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[Roger]

Compton Abbas is a favorite rural airfield for me so it's important that this is fixed. If it is a general (not just Dx10) issue then I'll post in the ORBX forum. Regarding London it's not an issue for me because I never fly there so if there are other sceneries that are preferred for London then raise them above the ORBX scenery and maybe they'll reappear.

[TeaSea]

Beautiful! Here is the link to .kmz. Area covered is even bigger than I expected.

http://fullterrain.com/kmz/FTX_EU_ENG.kmz

:applause:

Oh my....that is a big chunk of territory. Yes, I think this is a splurge I will have to make.:jump:

[Roger]

Nice to see that some of the Cliffs in Kent are white:ernae:

[falcon409]

Does anyone know if they plan to release London as an upgrade? The version in the default package is horrible and their rendition of the Olympic park is incredibly basic.
That's interesting because apparently they feel that London is a highlite, describing it this way in the description: "Impressively detailed City of London". Sounds like they're pretty happy with it.

[crashaz]

How's Duxford look?

[danyboy21]

What about compatibility with FRANCE VFR Sceneries ?

[res non verba]

How's Duxford look?


the ACG IWM Duxford scenery works perfect with orbx England

[Whitehawk]

Purchase: Complete
Download: Complete
Install: To Be Completed

Question: Should I just start a flight in England, or fly there from NZ??? Decisions decisions lol!

[Skyhawk18]

the ACG IWM Duxford scenery works perfect with orbx England

My ACG IWM Duxford did not load. I guess that I will have to move it to the top in the scenery library then (over the ORBX).....

[guzler]

This looks great. I have a Europe Scenerytech landclass installed and UTX, does anyone know if it works OK with these or should I remove any of them ?

Cheers

[Javis]

Well.... finally then ! Thanks Orbx ! :applause:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/wcod1.jpg


http://sectionf8.com/f86files/wcod2.jpg


http://sectionf8.com/f86files/wcod3.jpg

:ernae:
Jan

[hschuit]

How does it affect loading time? Since I installed the NL2000 scenery, launching FSX and loading a flight takes much longer than before and the Netherlands is quite small compared to England (and I already use a SSD).

[Roger]

Some random shots mainly in the North West. The Rapide is at Compton Abbas.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/HE4.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/OwpA9.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/t2ZLe.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/VGlS.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/WhTFe.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/YPKb.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/Zibkl.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/vyYdj.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/ynlk.jpg

[res non verba]

My ACG IWM Duxford did not load. I guess that I will have to move it to the top in the scenery library then (over the ORBX).....

affirm, put it on the top of the scenery library it should work

i tested so far from ACG:
IWM Duxford
RAF Coningsby
RAF Bentwaters & RAF Woodbridge
RAF Waddington
RAF Marham

i noted some light unlevel at the limits of scenery landclass but is perfectly usable and duplicate shelters and tower only in coningsby don´t know why, but i exclude the FTX_ENG_EGXC_objects.bgl at orbx scenery and it do the trick, is perfect now.

[Roger]

Taking-off from Lundy:engel016:

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/1yTvj.jpg

[Olicat]

Could I ask to see some photos of around Salisbury Plain Train Area (like around Tidworth and Netheravon)? It's somewhere where I fly Helicopters a lot and I'd be interested in seeing how Orbx has done it

[TeaSea]

Well, I finally got it downloaded and I'm off to tool around "Blighty" in my Islander.....

I almost NEVER buy software at the first go....but ORBX made me a believer with their previous packages, so a little Thankgiving treat for myself.

[huub vink]

Nice to see that some of the Cliffs in Kent are white:ernae:

I really hope the problems with photobucket are solved soon as I would love to see some screenies from this......

Oops forgot top look at the second page..... thanks for the screenies guys!

Huub

[res non verba]

and IanP ww2 airfields scenery as someone tried it with orbx?

[stiz]

and IanP ww2 airfields scenery as someone tried it with orbx?

bits are broken due to the way orbx does its scenery, he knows about it, weather or not i can hit him hard enough to fix all of em is another matter, but i'm trying :icon_lol:

[res non verba]

he did an awesome job, i really miss all that airfields.

:ernae:

[IanP]

There are two issues with my airfields and Orbx - both of which I can fix by using messy work-arounds for the fact that Orbx don't use standards (and then claim that everyone should do it their way anyway).

The first is that something they do in the background blocks SDK flatten/exclude files from working where an airfield background is placed over a landclass that includes autogen trees. The workaround is to put a grass polygon behind all my airfields. Messy and time consuming, for something that someone else broke on the other side of the planet (NA and AU cause this as well, not just EU).

The second is that they don't put airfield objects in the AFD BGL, at least some of their developers insist on placing structures as a second BGL - something that the FSX SDK specifically is designed to avoid. Again, fixable by placing FS9 format legacy excludes over all my airfields to remove their structures, but again something I - or any other designer - shouldn't have to do. Mr Venema's response to this is "all our airfields have exclude rectangles"... Well, yes. You're fixing what you broke with the base packages.

Anyway. I'm currently working on trying to make a half decent AFD file for someone else, but once I've done that, I guess I'll have to go and patch all my own because I bothered to play by the rules. Impressed, I am not. Do I expect anyone to care? No, not really. ;)

Cheers,

Ian P.

[Ian Warren]

There are two issues with my airfields and Orbx - both of which I can fix by using messy work-arounds for the fact that Orbx don't use standards (and then claim that everyone should do it their way anyway).

I have found levels altitudes and many other things that don't work with the ORBX New Zealand scenery , ground based photo data will work , autogen collapes's with horrid roof textures . I did create a flatten using AFX to level the airfield just down the road and that is what is required , any previous payware need mod's to suit the ORBX mesh .

With people who cannot afford a scenery coverage due to the they own other packages could be at a loss .
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[IanP]

Basically, what I need to do is to go to every airfield I've done, find all the problems, put linear object excludes through any modern road that is added (this happens with UTX as well, not just Orbx), create a grass landclass poly under every airfield to avoid trees showing through where Orbx have broken the default AB_xxx polygon, put one or more legacy "exclude everything" boxes over the top, upversion, edit the text file, rezip, re-upload, lather, rinse, repeat for every airfield.

...or just put up a post that says "Not compatible with Orbx scenery."

It looks from their forum like some of the England team want to do WW2 airfields anyway. I'd rather they fix the (not insignificant) issues with England first, but hey. If they want to create better airfields than me, it's not hard and they're very much more than welcome to do so. I only do what I do because no-one else did!

Ian P.

[DickB]

That's a blow Ian - as you know, I have several of your airfields and most of them I have tweaked over the years (changing ATC frequencies etc). If you do decide to patch them to work with FTX ENG, can that be done with an additional BGL file, or will you have to change the base AFX ? In which case I would have to go in and redo all my tweaks over again too.

This might just stop me buying FTX ENG. I mainly fly WW2, and I'm finding UTX (with all main roads disabled) and (the latest) GEX EU gives me a pretty reasonable rendition of 1940s English countryside. No White Cliffs Of Dover, but I can live without that !

[MudMarine]

Basically, what I need to do is to go to every airfield I've done, find all the problems, put linear object excludes through any modern road that is added (this happens with UTX as well, not just Orbx), create a grass landclass poly under every airfield to avoid trees showing through where Orbx have broken the default AB_xxx polygon, put one or more legacy "exclude everything" boxes over the top, upversion, edit the text file, rezip, re-upload, lather, rinse, repeat for every airfield.

...or just put up a post that says "Not compatible with Orbx scenery."

It looks from their forum like some of the England team want to do WW2 airfields anyway. I'd rather they fix the (not insignificant) issues with England first, but hey. If they want to create better airfields than me, it's not hard and they're very much more than welcome to do so. I only do what I do because no-one else did!

Ian P.

I'm basically a WWII flyer and I've spent a great deal of time enjoying what you've created! Thank you!

[res non verba]

I'm basically a WWII flyer and I've spent a great deal of time enjoying what you've created! Thank you!

+1

:ernae:

[sketchy]

Hello all,

I took the plunge yesterday and purchased this, its my first Orbx product.

When I unwrapped it and went to start it up I get this message when opening "FTX Central" (what ever that is....).

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p201/sketchy74/FTXproblem.jpg

Any ideas what the problem may be? I am awaiting a response / help from their Forums but thought I would ask here too in case anyone had any ideas. Do you think it may be part of an incomplete download?

Hope some one can help.

Cheers,

Sketchy.

[IanHenry]

Hello all,

I took the plunge yesterday and purchased this, its my first Orbx product.

When I unwrapped it and went to start it up I get this message when opening "FTX Central" (what ever that is....).

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p201/sketchy74/FTXproblem.jpg

Any ideas what the problem may be? I am awaiting a response / help from their Forums but thought I would ask here too in case anyone had any ideas. Do you think it may be part of an incomplete download?

Hope some one can help.

Cheers,

Sketchy.

Hi Sketchy,
I'm no expert, but did you download and install the latest Orbx librery?

Regards,
Ian.

[DarrenL]

Can you replicate it and click on the "Details" button to get the details of the issue.

Object reference not set to an instance of an object, might mean it's trying to read something that's not there. Could be Orbx library, could be VC++ runtime, could be anything without knowing the details.

How big was the installer/wrapper does it match to what you thought you were downloading from the Orbx site?

[Bruce Thompson]

Well I bought it , installed it , ran it, found loads of problems with it , complained in the ORBX forum along with others only to have the thread locked by Jon Venema. It appears that yet again a developer can take your money, provide you with a product that is not as you were led to expect, and then expect you to find all the faults and report them to the Support Forum along with photo's. I am sorry but this is something that has become the norm with this type of developer, the attitude is now we'll develop it but you all help us finish it. Nothing should be released until it is finished, even the instruction to set FTX to default before installing is missing from the "Important read me notice". Now I have had my rant and hopefully it will become the scenery we know that ORBX is able to produce, but for now it will not be on my system until update are provided, and no I will not waste my time trying to find the problems I am the paying customer after all.

[IanP]

That's quite a good error, sketchy... Much better than my attempts to install to Prepar3D resulting in it telling me that FSX's path isn't available... When it is. So is Prepar3D's. That still doesn't work and remains unanswered as well. I think they just want me to wait and do two seperate installs to FSX and P3D, when I'd really like a side-by-side installation.

Anyway, thanks for the comments, guys. I will make them work with Orbx ENG, somehow, but it may take some time. Any preferences for airfields to move to priority seats at the top of the list?

Ian P.

[sketchy]

Hi Sketchy,
I'm no expert, but did you download and install the latest Orbx librery?
Regards,
Ian.

Hi Ian,
They said the same on their Forum, but for something I downloaded yesterday from them I was rather assuming this was up to date? Also what is and where can I find the latest "Orbx Library"?





Can you replicate it and click on the "Details" button to get the details of the issue.

Object reference not set to an instance of an object, might mean it's trying to read something that's not there. Could be Orbx library, could be VC++ runtime, could be anything without knowing the details.

How big was the installer/wrapper does it match to what you thought you were downloading from the Orbx site?

Darren thanks for the reply mate, (hope Bedfordshire treats you well?) I expanded the details on their site too, but here it is:


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Also reference the size of the download, it was quoted as 3.12Gb and that is what I managed to download:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p201/sketchy74/FTXproblem02.jpg

The last reply to my query on the Forum was have you tried uninstalling it and installing it again...... Reminds me of the IT Crowd.... lol

Thanks for the replies all...

Fraser.

[jetstreamsky]

Hi Ian,
They said the same on their Forum, but for something I downloaded yesterday from them I was rather assuming this was up to date? Also what is and where can I find the latest "Orbx Library"?

Fraser.

The ORBX library is a collection of common objects used through the ORBX sceneries and are updated periodically, especially after something has been released (region or airport).

It can be found near the bottom of the support page http://www.fullterrain.com/support.html

it should be installed after any other type of ORBX installation as it will contain the most up to date variants of library models.

[huub vink]

Thanks already Ian for all you efforts. I really hope you will succeed. Although I love the look of ORBX England, I can't imagine I will enjoy it without your airfields.

Cheers,
Huub

[YoYo]

Why this thread isnt sticky?

[ronvking]

I don't have anything to read kmz files so could somebody tell me what coverage this has as I notice one comment saying it was further than they expected.

Cheers Ron

[Timbohobo]

Hi Ron, it covers England.. .i.e not the whole of the UK but the 'England' part, I believe it also goes a little outside of the English borders due to the way FSX is designed (grids)

Wales, Scotland and Ireland are coming next (in that order)

[hschuit]

This is the covered area (BTW: There is a huge discussion thread about ORBX England at AVSIM (http://forum.avsim.net/topic/391464-orbx-england-what-do-you-think/))

[Naismith]

I don't have anything to read kmz files so could somebody tell me what coverage this has as I notice one comment saying it was further than they expected.

Cheers Ron

kmz files are read by Google Earth (free).

[rwmarth]

[RIGHT]

kmz files are read by Google Earth (free).

You can also use google maps to open up kmz and kml files without google earth

[robcap]

Taking-off from Lundy:engel016:

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/11/18/1yTvj.jpg
Where's my like button ;-)

[Roger]

Lovely job Rob + Milton:ernae:

[ronvking]

Thanks for the updates, more than likely I'll wait until Wales and Scotland become available.

By the way I was aware that kmz files are read by google earth but I belong to the "don't install unless you really need it gang". ;) Less to go wrong or clog up your system. And don't ask me about "auto updaters" that software installs without asking you first. I hate them as I feel you lose control of your system, after all its yours not the blankty blank software firms.

Cheers Ron

[Mickey D]

Basically, what I need to do is to go to every airfield I've done, find all the problems, put linear object excludes through any modern road that is added (this happens with UTX as well, not just Orbx), create a grass landclass poly under every airfield to avoid trees showing through where Orbx have broken the default AB_xxx polygon, put one or more legacy "exclude everything" boxes over the top, upversion, edit the text file, rezip, re-upload, lather, rinse, repeat for every airfield.

...or just put up a post that says "Not compatible with Orbx scenery."

It looks from their forum like some of the England team want to do WW2 airfields anyway. I'd rather they fix the (not insignificant) issues with England first, but hey. If they want to create better airfields than me, it's not hard and they're very much more than welcome to do so. I only do what I do because no-one else did!

Ian P.

Ian. I guarantee that any of my sceneries works with only one other manfacturer's scenery. MS Flight Simulator. End of. If other manufacturers want to break the rules that's their problem not mine.

[DarrenL]

Sorry if I have missed it but how big (physically in GBs) is it? I currently have Horizon GenX installed and that was 12 dvds + 3 more dvds for the v3 update totally 95.6gb on hdd.

Bigger or smaller? (Smaller would be nice, to get some hdd space back) :)

[Roger]

It's about 3 gig from memory, Darren.

[kilo delta]

It's around 5GB when installed. :)

[DarrenL]

Blimey!

I'll have to write my letter to Santa then :)

Thanks.

[Roger]

Still enjoying England...with Bill's TRi-Pacer, with a Barnes repaint...

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2012/12/02/jnf2h.jpg

[doublecool]

Just a question based on the posts...I just want to understand clearly

So All addon scenery for England must be remove for this ORBX England scenery to work correctly

all Freeware ACG RAF and Duford? Popham, Oldwarden and such plus Payware like earthsimulations will not work with the ORBX england

and only ORBX addons will work with ORBX england

Nice screen shot Roger, the scenery and Plane/paint :applause:

[GypsyBaron]

Just a question based on the posts...I just want to understand clearly

So All addon scenery for England must be remove for this ORBX England scenery to work correctly

all Freeware ACG RAF and Duford? Popham, Oldwarden and such plus Payware like earthsimulations will not work with the ORBX england

and only ORBX addons will work with ORBX england

Nice screen shot Roger, the scenery and Plane/paint :applause:

I have not found that to be true. I just insure that my nUK addon airfield folders are ABOVE the OrbX EU entries in the
FSX Scenery Library menu...that is further DOWN in the scenery.cfg file.

On a couple of the airbases I checked and saw trees on the runwys, etc, I moved those folders up and all was well.

At the version of UKBA that the 91st BG uses, the only 'incursion' was a lake that appeared out where the ammo
bunkers are located. A simple 'exclude all water polys' in SBuilderX removed the lake. I also needed to trim a few
]trees back on the approaches to Rwy 25 and 17 that stuck up in the ILS glide slope. Again, SBuilderX to the rescue. :)

Paul

[doublecool]

Thanks for the reply...

[T6flyer]

I was surprised to receive in the post a couple of days ago, my DVD copy of the scenery, thinking that it wasn't going to be available until a few days before Christmas.

But after having installed the software and had a couple of short flights around my local area, I'n afraid to say that its not for me and I've therefore removed it from my system. Of course it is far better than the default scenery and if you're not a fan of the GenX VFR photographic then it a worthy successor, but I thought it would be a little bit more realistic than it is in its original form is.

I love Orbx scenery, but think appreciate it more when its not on my own doorstep and is somewhere on the other side of the world where I have never been or only have brief memories of. I'm loving PNW and am looking forward to the other new releases. But sadly England (IMVVHO) is not for me.

Best wishes,

Martin

[DaveQ]

I was surprised to receive in the post a couple of days ago, my DVD copy of the scenery, thinking that it wasn't going to be available until a few days before Christmas.

But after having installed the software and had a couple of short flights around my local area, I'n afraid to say that its not for me and I've therefore removed it from my system. Of course it is far better than the default scenery and if you're not a fan of the GenX VFR photographic then it a worthy successor, but I thought it would be a little bit more realistic than it is in its original form is.

Martin

Same here I'm sad to say, but I'll leave it on as it's considerably better than the default.

DaveQ

[Roger]

I had no illusions and knew it wasn't photo real as I have a great deal of ORBX scenery and besides the photo real I've seen for England looks hopeless for low 'n' slow so I'm happy. EGCD is in the right place so that's a bonus. There will be a patch probably after Christmas resolving a whole host of issues and then my other default field Compton Abbas will have it's one flashy building fixed. I don't know in what order they will release the rest of the UK but I hope Wales is next so I can fly in Snowdonia :mixedsmi:

[jetstreamsky]

Whatever they do, I hope the patch brings in some of the wow factor that normally attain, just having beaches showing would help enormously, a more rugged coastline texture set, especially the south west coast would go a long way too and for areas like the Lake District photo textures replacing default farmland textures would bring in some of the rugged majesty of the region. Towns and cities are way off the mark, but these need a lot of autogen to get right and already my system crawls around Dunsfold between Heathrow and Gatwick.

[Mr.Mugel]

Seeing those colorful fields in the scenery, and the white cliffs, I´d like to give it a try, but it´s over my budget right now. I don´t use a lot of scenery for UK now, as I never liked the default landscape rendition, so compability wouldn´t be an issue for me....

If anyone wants to get rid of his box version, for a fair price, I might be in for a deal.

[jeansy]

Same here I'm sad to say, but I'll leave it on as it's considerably better than the default.

DaveQ

you guys arent the first to say it or will be the last, the kiwis said the same thing not long ago, and many in Oz said the same for the local areas

Orbx regions delivers a "mood environment" when flying, while its still better than default, its very hard to say its scenery is realistic, unlike its airfields, they're another story !

Its an interesting read on their forums when region packs are released, 95% of the praises are from people who aren't locals, and usually the locals post criticisms until their posts are deleted and they're banned

[Bruce Thompson]

you guys arent the first to say it or will be the last, the kiwis said the same thing not long ago, and many in Oz said the same for the local areas

Orbx regions delivers a "mood environment" when flying, while its still better than default, its very hard to say its scenery is realistic, unlike its airfields, they are another things

Its an interesting read on their forums when region packs are released, 95% of the praises are from people who aren't locals, and usually the locals post criticisms until their posts are deleted and they're banned That is priceless and so factual jeansy.:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[T6flyer]

I had no illusions and knew it wasn't photo real as I have a great deal of ORBX scenery and besides the photo real I've seen for England looks hopeless for low 'n' slow so I'm happy. EGCD is in the right place so that's a bonus. There will be a patch probably after Christmas resolving a whole host of issues and then my other default field Compton Abbas will have it's one flashy building fixed. I don't know in what order they will release the rest of the UK but I hope Wales is next so I can fly in Snowdonia :mixedsmi:

I'm a low and slow man myself, both on the PC and in real life!!!

I used to think that the GenX scenery was a little too clinical, a little too clean, but now having upgraded my PC and gone back to it again, I'm somewhat enjoying the experience. As costs are getting so expensive these days, I don't normally venture anywhere out of Devon and Cornwall, but Compton Abbas is a firm favourite for a good lunch out, with Old Sarum being a little further down the road, but still good for filling empty stomachs!!!

We all get out of the sim what we want and if we all did like the same thing, life would be incredibly boring, so I'm glad that people are enjoying Orbx. I am certainly loving PNW at the moment and hope that in the future (as it will) the England package will be bettered. But my copy is off to my local ATC Squadron, who are very much into flight simulation.

Best wishes,

Martin

[bushpilot]

I only have two of their region packs PNW an NZNI, and while I'm reasonably happy with them, they never have been anything wow inducing. I think we are now seeing the moment where FSX has shown its possibilities and limitations. All them fancy flow techs cannot hide the fact that landclass based scenery looks like landclass based scenery, no matter what. The increase in quality between current FTX sceneries is not the same we saw between FTX AU and FTX PNW. It's same ol' same ol'. What we really need now is a new sim, which increases the visual realism a few notches and brings us the wow factor again. And I'm not talking about P3D.

[TeaSea]

First, I think this is an excellent product.

Second, I believe that the use of such a product in FSX an how it may or may not "enhance" the simulation experience is highly subjective.

It is completely acceptable that some of us think this is well worth the investment and that other would not think it "their cup of tea". I believe T6flyer is of the latter, and that's quite all right in my book. I also note that he is quick to point out that he's not disparaging the product in any way....just doesn't think it's what he's looking for.

I personally dislike photo real scenery, both in the cockpit and on the ground and will unload any I might inadvertently pick up although I know there are some who are really enthusiastic about it...I also really liked the "ham and eggs" the Army used to provide in my field rations--while most other folks couldn't stand it....but again, your mileage may differ.:cool:

[TeaSea]

I only have two of their region packs PNW an NZNI, and while I'm reasonably happy with them, they never have been anything wow inducing. I think we are now seeing the moment where FSX has shown its possibilities and limitations. All them fancy flow techs cannot hide the fact that landclass based scenery looks like landclass based scenery, no matter what. The increase in quality between current FTX sceneries is not the same we saw between FTX AU and FTX PNW. It's same ol' same ol'. What we really need now is a new sim, which increases the visual realism a few notches and brings us the wow factor again. And I'm not talking about P3D.

I hear what you're saying...we're actually getting to the point where we have systems at the house that can support this kind of realism. Only question is, can you make a buck off it....because if you can't it will never happen.