F-15 X Mig-29 awesome crazy clip

[Hanimichal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3wGSndRUg&

[stovall]

What I want to know is did they let this guy get away? Good video, thanks Hani!

[Naismith]

I wonder, have Mig 29's ever gone up against F-15's for real? Can't think of any specifically.......:icon30:

[MenendezDiego]

USAF F-15C's killed five MiG-29's in the Gulf War.

[Brian_Gladden]

Found this with a google search....

No Mig-29 has ever achieved an air to air kill, in any conflict.

F-15's are 103-0 in air to air combat.

F=15's have shot down:

F-4E's - two
Mig 21 - Thirty eight
Mig 23 - twenty five
Mig 25 - four
Mig 29 - nine
SU-7 - one
SU-22 - four
SU-25 - two
Mirage F1 - eight


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071126205147AATUP3e

[Prowler1111]

Only in video game based minds could a Mig-29 outmaneuver a F-15 like that..heck, out power one?..if it was supposed to be a Su-27/30/35 it would MIGHT be an even match, but if you oversee all that (kind of going to the movies and watch transformers), it´s entertaining...to some extent

best regards

Prowler

[Chris Sykes]

think the director played Hawx before making this?

[airattackimages]

No Mig-29 has ever achieved an air to air kill, in any conflict.


What about unarmed UAVs?

http://youtu.be/F6b35gjZ9cc

:icon_lol:

Although that wasn't a conflict, I guess. Go F-15!

[Hanimichal]

The MiG-29, along with the Sukhoi Su-27, was developed to counter new American fighters such as the McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle, and the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon.

And MiG-29 is superior in maneuvering than F-15


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o9DKlvDOOs&

[PrivateCustard]

The MiG-29, along with the Sukhoi Su-27, was developed to counter new American fighters such as the McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle, and the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon.

And MiG-29 is superior in maneuvering than F-15

*snipped video*


That's the thrust vectored OVT variant. I'm pretty sure those ones are nothing more than airshow queens, testbeds with no combat role.

EDIT: There's no denying the Russians are great at the whole airshow thing though!

[stiz]

That's the thrust vectored OVT variant. I'm pretty sure those ones are nothing more than airshow queens, testbeds with no combat role.

bit like that F22 people rave about .. *runs and hides for cover* :icon_lol:

[MenendezDiego]

bit like that F22 people rave about .. *runs and hides for cover* :icon_lol:

Nothing like dropping a GBU-39 from 50,000 feet at supersonic speeds. We're talking 60 miles standoff distance.

Let's see a MiG-29 do that.

[stiz]

key differences being, F22 will most likely ever ever be used in such a role, and it might kill the pilot before it gets that high. Anyway, argueing about it is pretty pointless :engel016:

[BrittMac]

think the director played Hawx before making this?

This is the only statement here that makes sense. The video is rubbish and is obviously a trailer for a movie(or some propaganda). That the -29 has some sort of super-manueverability "all of the sudden" at the end of the film is not just ludicrous, but stupid. The OVT does have amazing maneuvering ability, but people need to remember that it is at LOW speeds. Humans generally wouldn't withstand the super-hi G's that would happen if you suddenly reversed your course at several hundred knots or more(I am not talking about ejections, keep those comments to yourself). Why doesn't anyone here see that?

As for the F-22. If you haven't seen that thing do its demo in person, you wouldn't understand the power involved with the manuever's it completes. It is rediculous how much power it throws up there. If you are a Raptor hater, I say you need to see the demo in person before you say you know more than the next guy. You may not know more than the next guy.
I can't wait to see the Eurofighter Demo. I am not a "hater" of any airframe, but I am a realist.
I would very much like to see the SU-30=anything demo in person. However, I cannot afford to travel where all these aircraft do their demo's, but, I wish I could. I do understand that the Raptor and Eurofighter are not the only "superfighters" out there. I just love the internet arguments that happen here and everywhere else.

[William Njurmi]

Obviously the video is a Korean movie. I would like to buy it with english subtitles. Anyone got a link?

[airattackimages]

Why doesn't anyone here see that?

I'm pretty sure everyone here sees that. Chill. :p

[hairyspin]

The video is rubbish....

I can't wait to see the Eurofighter Demo

Agreed, not a wisp of smoke from the 29's engines and if you've seen one of these flying you'll have seen the huge smoke trails. Cough cough cough!

Do see the Eurofighter if you get the chance. I have and I don't think you'll be disappointed.

[jetstreamsky]

I've seen the standard mig-29 and Suhkoi 27 do their stuff at Farnborough and in the preceding weeks of practice where several maneuvers were banned by the authorities for the show and I can tell you those machines should not be underestimated in nationalistic pride of one type against another, they are indeed truly capable aerodynamic masterpieces, but what really counts is the whole package, machine, pilot, weapons and tactics and for all the tallies to date, that has been an uneven match, hopefully a match never to be seen.

[Sascha66]

They do like their disaster movies - otherwise it is speeded up about 20 times, would be much more fun if one could actually SEE the planes instead of them whizzing about any old way...

[Hanimichal]

I've seen the standard mig-29 and Suhkoi 27 do their stuff at Farnborough and in the preceding weeks of practice where several maneuvers were banned by the authorities for the show and I can tell you those machines should not be underestimated in nationalistic pride of one type against another, they are indeed truly capable aerodynamic masterpieces, but what really counts is the whole package, machine, pilot, weapons and tactics and for all the tallies to date, that has been an uneven match, hopefully a match never to be seen.

I agree

[Prowler1111]

Obviously the video is a Korean movie. I would like to buy it with english subtitles. Anyone got a link?

here you go:

http://www.hancinema.net/korean_movie_R2B_2p__Return_to_Base.php

Prowler