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Mathias
August 20th, 2012, 00:33
Alessandro is closing in on finishing the Fw190D-9 paint layout - about 95% done - so it's a good time to show off a bit.
Here's some unedited FSX shots, only some cropping done.
Note some things may change further down the road.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_20.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_21.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_22.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_23.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_24.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_25.jpg

P38man
August 20th, 2012, 00:51
Great great job Alessandro, some lovely weathering and oil effects too !!

Love the spinner.

A work of art :applause::jump::applause::jump:

Real interesting how they got that engine on her. You can see by the shapes and lines on the nose which have all been captured wonderfully.

SOLD!! Will buy the second it comes out.

Pips
August 20th, 2012, 00:55
Poetry in motion. The 'D' series was a beautiful design. You sure are doing justice to it. Well done.

jankees
August 20th, 2012, 01:14
sweet!

AusWilko
August 20th, 2012, 03:14
So looking forward to this
that looks the right mix of deadly and graceful

Mathias
August 20th, 2012, 03:47
Thanks guys!




Real interesting how they got that engine on her. You can see by the shapes and lines on the nose which have all been captured wonderfully.



Yes p38man, that's one of the really interesting parts of this project to see how the original Anton airframe developed over the time.
If you compare the Dora to the older designs you can see were construction groups have been replaced or added.
Becomes very obvious when viewing them side by side.

Here's the D-9 alongside the ancestor of them all, the A-1.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_26.jpg

And here's some showing the D-9 with the last of the Anton's, the A-9.


http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_27.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_28.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_29.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_30.jpg

Steven190
August 20th, 2012, 03:57
OUTSTANDING!!, I was hoping htat you would do the Dora series. I will be waiting inline to get her as soon as they are released.

Thanks

thunder100
August 20th, 2012, 06:32
Although I like Anton a lot, D9 is always breathtaking-->WOW What a racer now!!And the TA's are still a step further

Roland

Stickshaker
August 20th, 2012, 08:41
Hello Matthias,<o:p></o:p>
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I will surely buy her!<o:p></o:p>
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It seems difficult to arrive at an accurate flight model since as far as I know there are no long-noses flying anymore. How do you do that?<o:p></o:p>
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Will we be able to remove the centreline pylon or is it part of the airframe?<o:p></o:p>

Mathias
August 20th, 2012, 09:35
Hello Matthias,<o:p></o:p>
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I will surely buy her!<o:p></o:p>
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It seems difficult to arrive at an accurate flight model since as far as I know there are no long-noses flying anymore. How do you do that?<o:p></o:p>
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Will we be able to remove the centreline pylon or is it part of the airframe?<o:p></o:p>

Hello stickshaker,

like with the Anton you will be able to remove the pylon.
This time we'll make it more comfortable though by means of a payload manager like we used it with the Bf108.

As you may know we use the services of AvHistory for the aerodynamics.
Of course there are many pilot anekdotes around as well as wartime testing reports with loads of hard numbers, mostly old Rechlin test center reports which Avhistory of course does use,
but it all starts with the 3d model to predict flight behaviour based on established real world industry-wide used calculation models such as USAF DATCOM and Roscam.
There are not any surprises today below MACH so this method is the most accurate anyway rather than tweaking parameters by hand just to get a certain parameter to match a certain opinion.
Having said that, pilot and test reports serve to verify the outcome of the calculated predictions or to put them into perspective rather than taking them for granted as the holy grail.

Chunk
August 20th, 2012, 10:03
Looking great Mathias! Need anymore beta tester's? :icon_lol:

eddie
August 20th, 2012, 10:41
Very nice Mathias, great work by you and Alx! I feel sorry for Schnauffer though, he's still waiting for his 110G4,lol

YoYo
August 20th, 2012, 10:55
Amazing! Keep fingers for next progress Mathias! :applause:

Stickshaker
August 20th, 2012, 12:27
Having said that, pilot and test reports serve to verify the outcome of the calculated predictions or to put them into perspective rather than taking them for granted as the holy grail.

That is clear, Matthias, thank you.<o:p></o:p>
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Personally I particularly value the ‘feel’ of a plane. Of course performance should be more or less on the numbers, but I find it, for example, much more important that the angle of attack and the view out of the cockpit are correct during landings, and that if a plane has a tendency to bounce in reality, that it also bounces in the sim, than whether the landing speed is exactly right in terms of knots. Can you perhaps tell us a bit of the peculiarities of the Dora and Ta-152 that we will find in your new plane? I think many of us would be interested in that.

Mathias
August 20th, 2012, 12:38
Well, the "feel" of an aircraft comes from accurately calculated moments of inertia from what I've been told but I'll leave that debatte to the more competent experts.:icon_lol:
I'm sure Greg Pierson of Avhistory will pop in and and comment on the aerofiles when time has come.

Roadburner440
August 20th, 2012, 12:51
Now the Dora is coming. Is going to be a fantastic little collection there. For me it always looks odd with the exhaust ports so low on the nose, but the Germans sure liked building their V engines upside down.

Barnes
August 20th, 2012, 13:52
Great work - cant wait to fly it :jump:

robert41
August 20th, 2012, 16:07
Great shots. Loving this one.

Sundog
August 20th, 2012, 17:09
Well, the "feel" of an aircraft comes from accurately calculated moments of inertia from what I've been told but I'll leave that debatte to the more competent experts.:icon_lol:
I'm sure Greg Pierson of Avhistory will pop in and and comment on the aerofiles when time has come.

It also has to do with the control system and how the rates, feedback etc are designed into it. For instance, who would have guessed that the XP-77 was considered one of the best handling airplanes by the pilots who flew it? I didn't know until I read an article with some info on some pilot reports.

Thanks for the preview pics. I'm so looking forward to this. BTW, I don't recall, will it just include the Ta-152H-1, or is the Ta-152C included as well? I think you said there were too few built; whereas, at least the Ta-152H-1 saw some action.

Mathias
August 20th, 2012, 23:36
Sundog, airplanes include the D-9, D-11, D-13, Ta152H-0 and H-1.

Sundog
August 21st, 2012, 01:20
Sundog, airplanes include the D-9, D-11, D-13, Ta152H-0 and H-1.

Thanks for the clarification.

huub vink
August 21st, 2012, 07:28
Personally I think the D-9 is the best looking of the late model FW-190s. It is nicely stretched, which gives it very smooth lines, but still has something of the the bulky aggressive look of the earlier model.

Cheers,
Huub

fliger747
August 23rd, 2012, 13:21
First time I ever got a hands on look at a TA152 was at the Chaplain Fighter Museum at Falcon Field near Phoenix. That plane and the F2G Corsair are now at the Museum of Flight in Seattle.

MOI does affect the feel of flight, but more complicated is the reaction(and effectiveness) of the controls and aerodynamic ballance at varying airspeeds, and the speed stability which is affected by induced pitch moment vrs dynamic pressure.

I am sure it will be a nice plane when complete!

T

Bomber_12th
August 23rd, 2012, 14:57
I've been very excited about this news, and I look forward to seeing the project as it continues to develop! It's especially nice to see these aircraft being developed by Classics Hangar, knowing that they'll be done to perfection, with such a level of care and attention to detail in the visuals.

Tom, the example you saw was a Fw-190D-13. As you mention, it was owned by the Champlin Fighter Museum for quite some time. They used to do periodic engine runs with the aircraft (one of which can be seen in a Youtube video). The aircraft was fully restored to airworthy condition by GossHawk restorations, and after the Champlin Museum closed up shop, the aircraft was sent to the Museum of Flight in Seattle, where it went on display for a time. A few years back the aircraft was purchased by Paul Allen for his Flying Heritage Collection, where it can now be seen, located at Paine Field. Although the aircraft was restored to flying condition, it has and will remain un-flown. (One of the unique things about the restoration, was that for many years the aircraft's wing didn't belong - i.e., it wasn't the wing, nor the wing type, that it was originally manufactured with. It was found that its wing was actually in the possession of the NMUSAF, mounted to the museum's Fw-190D-9, and the wing fitted to the Champlin 109 actually belonged to the NMUSAF example (having been accidentally swapped decades beforehand). When the Champlin aircraft was restored, the wings were traded and now both aircraft have their original wings once more (though as a result, you can see that the paint finish on the NMUSAF Fw-190D-9 doesn't match up between the wings and fuselage).)

Note the white walls on the tail wheel tire - this indicates that the rubber tire is designed to dissipate static electricity from the aircraft, acting as a grounding wire. Also note the finish on the bottom of the wing - the forward half is bare metal, where as the rear half is painted.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Happy%20Jacks/1500930.jpg

Because of the lack of available resources at the time the aircraft was originally manufactured during WWII, items like the flaps and some access panels were lined with wood, due to a shortage of metal.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Happy%20Jacks/5849528008_b2de946424_b.jpg

AusWilko
August 23rd, 2012, 15:26
It is going to be such a great plane

Bomber_12th - always love reading your informative posts, love the background history on any aircraft and learning about it, Thanks :salute:

fliger747
August 23rd, 2012, 20:38
Back when it was at Chaplain @Falcon field the data plate said TA 152.... Of course that was in 1986, a time I sometimes remember better than 10 mins ago.... If you say it is a Dora 9-13, I am sure you are correct.

To fly or not to fly isle one of the most dependable piton ponders ever, have puked dozens of engines, not a big deal in a four holer a point of contention between the museum and warbird crowd. Sadly they get crashed now and then, the production rate of new ones being slower than the loss rate. Even when new, with military trained pilots, the operational loss rate was high. My DC6 friends flying the R2800, arguably the most dependable piston pounder ever, have puked dozens of engines. not a big deal in a four holer, but in a single engine aircraft a cause for some excitement.

FS plays an important part in preserving a dynamic history of these planes!

T

Bomber_12th
August 24th, 2012, 13:04
Tom, I'm affraid your memory is superb. The Champlin Fighter Museum did have the forward end off of a Ta 152 (engine and cowl) on display as well. I'm not sure where that has ended up since.

Although I'm sure most have already seen it, this is the video that was posted to Youtube quite a while back, of an engine start that was performed with the Fw 190D-13 sometime in the 80's/90's, at the Champlin Fighter Museum (many years prior to its recent ground-up restoration). Notice how similar all of the sounds are to that of a DB-powered Me-109 (the long-nose Fw 190's being of course powered by inline Jumo engines). The only (and key) item missing from the aircraft (both before and after the restoration), is the complex Kommandogerät, which kept it from having engine runs (note in the video all they were able to do with it was start it and run it at idle), and keeps it of course from flying (though its rarity is usually the only item noted for it being ground-bound). The Flying Heritage Collection's airworthy, and flown, original Fw 190A-5 does have a fully restored operational Kommandogerät.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5LBUVS1T8

For those interested, here are some unique photos of the only remaining complete Ta 152 (Ta 152 H-0), stored at the National Air and Space Museum (unfortunately the paint that you see is a mixture of different paint applications, the latest being from 1947). Note that much of the entire tail (aft of the fuselage plug) is made of wood, and as a result some easy to see preservation methods have had to be taken.

http://www.thomasgenth.de/html/tank_ta_152_h-0.html

fliger747
August 24th, 2012, 14:20
I almost wonder if at some point they had the other nose on the plane, (during a restoration stage) as I remember the spinner being more pointed. I remember examining this part of the plane rather closely because of the unusual annular radiator and almost radial engine like cowling on a V12. The paint job may have been a bit different as well, just light gray?

Don't ask me what day today is (here in japan or anywhere else....) Wonder if I took any photos that day? Remember film, I was lugging around a 6x6 Hasselblad in those days, I know I took photos at Pima Air Museum.

T

Cirrus N210MS
August 24th, 2012, 23:00
Looks amazing

Stickshaker
August 25th, 2012, 03:08
Sundog, airplanes include the D-9, D-11, D-13, Ta152H-0 and H-1.

Matthias, would it be an option to release the Ta-152C as a paid-for upgrade? Even if it was not used operationally, it would be interesting to have the collection of 190’s that actually flew in more than prototype form complete.

grunau_baby
August 25th, 2012, 04:27
airplanes include the D-9, D-11, D-13, Ta152H-0 and H-1.

I guess this makes my entire year...:jawdrop:

Best wishes
Alex

Mathias
August 26th, 2012, 06:50
@ Bomber: John, thanks much for the additional snippets! I knew that the D-13 was newly being restored but wasn't fully aware that it's allready finished and back on display.
From the looks of it they did an exceptional job with this restoration, fixing the partial mess the first restoration left after the plane had been badly vandalized when it was stored on a meadow somewhere on the country side during the 60th. Good to hear also that it got it's native wings back.
Too bad they don't have the Motorbediengerät (what the item is called that would be the Kommandogerät on BMW801-equipped machines). Seems close to impossible to get that thing these days.


Matthias, would it be an option to release the Ta-152C as a paid-for upgrade? Even if it was not used operationally, it would be interesting to have the collection of 190’s that actually flew in more than prototype form complete.

Stickshaker, the challenge is this:
Two aircraft are known to have been delivered to JG301, no photos exist, no combat records are known and it appears unlikely that they saw any use at all. Photos do exist of test aircraft though in various stages of "alikeness" to serial standards.
Mainteneance and pilot manuals as well as spare part lists exist only in snippets making it challenging to recreate the cockpit and some of the systems.
Test reports are incomplete either.
While each of the above mentioned points could be overcome by good measure and educated guesswork, in the summary it may not be enough to make it a Classics Hangar aircraft. However, final word is not spoken on the matter but I wouldn't hold my breath.
What might make me reconsidere is the fact that this one would be a truely outstanding aircraft at low to medium altitudes that would give any allied fighter a run for the money.:kilroy:


Personally I think the D-9 is the best looking of the late model FW-190s. It is nicely stretched, which gives it very smooth lines, but still has something of the the bulky aggressive look of the earlier model.

Cheers,
Huub

The D-11 ain't too shabby either! :icon_lol:

Here's some unedited D-11 WIP shots.
It's very similar to the D-13 except armament and the lower panel that holds the inner geardoors which are somewhat simplified on the D-13.

D-11 changes over the D-9:

- New engine Jumo213F
- larger, oval shaped supercharger air intake
- upper nose guns removed, thus more streamlined cowling.
- Mk108 cannons added to the outer wings.

This one is shown with the old canopy.
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_17.jpg

Same aircraft with late style canopy.
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_18.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_19.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_23.jpg

Together with the D-9
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_20.jpg

Capture of the larger air intake.
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_21.jpg

Note undersurfaces partially unpainted bare metal as seen on a number of late war aircraft.
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_22.jpg

Mathias
August 26th, 2012, 10:52
BTW, the eagle-eyed will have noticed that the right cooling flap at heigth of the exhaust stack is always fixed in the flush position.
They found out that this flap caused turbulences that led fumes into the intake effectively reducing the aircraft's critical altitude.
Keeping the flap flush increased critical altitude by a couple hundred meters.

Chunk
August 26th, 2012, 14:01
That's a very cool fact Mathias. BTW, each time you post new shots, it looks better. This is going to be AWESOME!

Stickshaker
August 29th, 2012, 09:57
@ What might make me reconsidere is the fact that this one would be a truely outstanding aircraft at low to medium altitudes that would give any allied fighter a run for the money.:kilroy:

Matthias, that is exactly why I am interested in the -C. And with its heavy firepower it would have been a good bomber destroyer also. But I completely understand your reasoning for possibly not including it. You have to draw the line somewhere.

YoYo
August 31st, 2012, 01:42
For customer who did pre-order of Dora, will be free gift like this:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2566/bootsf.jpg

;-))))))

MudMarine
August 31st, 2012, 02:26
I WANT TO FLY IT!! I'd like to find some of those panzer slippers also! LOL

Mathias
August 31st, 2012, 11:26
For customer who did pre-order of Dora, will be free gift like this:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2566/bootsf.jpg

;-))))))

LMAO! Now that's cool! :-)

lucas81
August 31st, 2012, 11:35
Lol, double "wool'ed" armor :D The PzKfW VI "Wool Tiger" :)

Beautiful screenshots and great model. Congratulations!

Lucas

Mathias
September 16th, 2012, 07:47
Some shots of a more widely known D-11:

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_25.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_26.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-11_27.jpg

skyhawka4m
September 16th, 2012, 09:46
:salute::applause::medals:

jankees
September 16th, 2012, 11:31
just wonderful...

Sundog
September 16th, 2012, 11:49
Now we just need some AI 262's to cover. ;)

Ian Warren
September 16th, 2012, 14:41
Jimmy Jillickers :eek: , that really looks the part ...... now another question ...:icon_lol: Is that good New Zealand Wool ?, that's what you call WPC's <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

Mathias
September 24th, 2012, 10:43
Some WIP shots of the new D-9 office in different lighting conditions.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_01.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_02.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_31.jpg

roger-wilco-66
September 24th, 2012, 11:31
Awesome images, Mathias!

skyhawka4m
September 24th, 2012, 11:35
Have a question.....will the antenna that streches from tail to canopy slack up when it opens on the bubbled type canopy? I know the early ones had a roller wheel but the late buble ones did not and it drooped when the canopy opened.

stiz
September 24th, 2012, 11:54
and whats the reason they put notes round the speedo ? :)

hairyspin
September 24th, 2012, 12:23
Very impressive lighting Mathias!

Mathias
September 24th, 2012, 13:05
Thanks guys!


and whats the reason they put notes round the speedo ? :)

Max allowed IAS at certain altitude, for instance at 5 kilometers altitude you should not exceed 700 kph indicated airspeed.



Have a question.....will the antenna that streches from tail to canopy slack up when it opens on the bubbled type canopy? I know the early ones had a roller wheel but the late buble ones did not and it drooped when the canopy opened.

Yes, it's animated.
Difficult to capture in a screenshot but here it is:

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/bubble_canopy_radio_wire.jpg

P38man
September 24th, 2012, 17:40
skyhawka4m I cannot believe you asked a developer about such a tiny and difficult (or at least bothersome and non-critical) feature! Only at SOH can such requests/questions arise.
(I have done and do it too so don't think I am judging in anyway, just we are funny lol - I asked Mathias for a dive pull out mechansim on the milviz stuka, he said yes then I asked for wind with an open cockpit :icon_eek:, was prior to accufeel).

Mathias I cannot believe your answer was actually "Yes" that you have done it! Jaw drops.....

Amazing!

I need a new monitor though from all the broken pixels from throwing my wallet at the screen everytime I check this thread!
(just a bit of humour)

Henry
September 24th, 2012, 18:12
THEY:mixedsmi:LOOK TOO GOOD TO SHOOTDOWN:applause:GREAT TO SEE YOUSTILL working,appreciate yaallHenry:icon29:

MudMarine
September 25th, 2012, 04:05
skyhawka4m I cannot believe you asked a developer about such a tiny and difficult (or at least bothersome and non-critical) feature! Only at SOH can such requests/questions arise.
(I have done and do it too so don't think I am judging in anyway, just we are funny lol - I asked Mathias for a dive pull out mechansim on the milviz stuka, he said yes then I asked for wind with an open cockpit :icon_eek:, was prior to accufeel).

Mathias I cannot believe your answer was actually "Yes" that you have done it! Jaw drops.....

Amazing!

I need a new monitor though from all the broken pixels from throwing my wallet at the screen everytime I check this thread!
(just a bit of humour)


I think the cable appears to be 3mm too short!!! Joking aside, you're right, we all have our "things". My thing is for Long Nose Dora's! She's just SMOOOOKING HOT!!

Mathias
September 25th, 2012, 04:37
I think the cable appears to be 3mm too short!!!!!

3mm you say? That's serious, I better start from scratch. :mix-smi: :mixedsmi: :icon_lol:

MudMarine
September 25th, 2012, 04:52
3mm you say? That's serious, I better start from scratch. :mix-smi: :mixedsmi: :icon_lol:

Yes! According to my nerd sliderule and rivet counting software.....3mm too short! Sorry to say it but I think you need to start from scratch! :icon_lol: Thank you for your sense of humor Mathias! I can't wait to give Dora a ride, just beautiful work!:applause:

Marvin Carter
September 25th, 2012, 09:54
Ich liebe dieses Flugzeug, uber Arbeit!!! Did I say this right???

Mathias
September 25th, 2012, 10:41
Cheers Marv, old chap, very close! :icon_lol:

Mathias
September 26th, 2012, 08:44
Some of the inevitable close-to-dusk shots, as always unedited except cropping.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_03.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_04.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_05.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_06.jpg

....and in bright daylight

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_07.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_08.jpg

skyhawka4m
September 26th, 2012, 11:20
:applause::wavey:


AWESOME!!!

Steven190
September 26th, 2012, 14:50
Cheers Marv, old chap, very close! :icon_lol:

TWO WEEKS!!!!!

Mathias
September 26th, 2012, 16:01
TWO WEEKS!!!!!

Gee Steven, wrong context!:mixedsmi:
I was refering to Marv's German language skills, not to the release date.

robert41
September 26th, 2012, 18:05
Great looking cockpit.

skyhawka4m
September 26th, 2012, 20:44
Great looking cockpit.


Oct. 18th would be a perfect day...my birthday!

Steven190
September 27th, 2012, 04:24
Gee Steven, wrong context!:mixedsmi:
I was refering to Marv's German language skills, not to the release date.



You been around the flight sims awhile, and know the old saying of "two week" until release, which never seems to happen. Just wanted to put in a little levity into our wait.

Keep up the great work and we will all wait.

Chunk
September 27th, 2012, 04:32
Great lighting in shot #3. Outstanding work Mathias. Like I said at the Classics Hangar site, you, A2A, and RealAir stand head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to virtual cockpits. I can't wait for the Dora.

peter12213
September 27th, 2012, 12:21
Really like this aircraft, theres a page on facebook dediated to it's engine alone lol, very popular aircraft and I can't wait to get my hands on this one!

Mathias
October 5th, 2012, 09:19
Hmm, with all the fuzz about DX10 lately and on special request by Roger I thought I give the VC shadows another go.
Doesn't look too shabby and really gives a sense of "being there" when you see the shadows in motion.
might enable it in the release version.
Those that can run AC self shadows don't see a performance hit compared to exterior view.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_09.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d9_cockpit_10.jpg

Mr.Mugel
October 5th, 2012, 09:54
That detail is amazing. Pretty impressive work there!

Ian Warren
October 5th, 2012, 12:14
A very immersive cockpit :cool:

One area i really enjoyed was the sound package you created for your earlier FW190 packages , cant wait till we hear this inline Dora .<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

Roger
October 5th, 2012, 13:06
Ha ha,
Sorry to give you more work Mathias, but with Steve Parson's new dx10 shaders the c'pit shadows are so much more realstic:engel016:

Wulf190
October 5th, 2012, 13:23
Just saw this. This might be what lures me to the dark side. ;)

Mathias
October 6th, 2012, 04:35
Thanks again guys, much apprechiated!

for Ian and Chunk, sounds and shadows in motion.
Note cockpit engine sounds will get some more balls in the release version.
There are clearly more talented chaps around here when it comes to video editing so this is just quick and dirty:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIfF_2jMvwk

Mathias
October 17th, 2012, 08:52
Some of the D-13, the last in the Dora batch.
Wooden flaps, partially unpainted bare metal under surfaces, plenty of critical altitude since it has the same engine as the Ta152H (Jumo213E) less the intercooler (then called Jumo213F).
Since it's the only photographically known D-13 (of supposedly only two delivered to frontline units) and one of two surviving Doras worldwide it will receive three paints: A reconstruction of it's last wartime scheme, US captured colors and how it's today on display at the Flying Heritage Collection.
This one is the reconstructed wartime scheme.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_04.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_05.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_06.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_07.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_08.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_09.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_10.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_11.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_12.jpg

MudMarine
October 17th, 2012, 09:09
JEEZ, ME WANT!!

Ian Warren
October 17th, 2012, 11:28
:icon_eek:That is looking great .. flipping on his back showing his belly .. i almost feel like a gunner on a bomber after a strafing run :eek:

skyhawka4m
October 17th, 2012, 12:53
Well.......tommorow is my Bday and it doesn't look like it will be a Bday present to myself.......hopefully SOON!

Bomber_12th
October 17th, 2012, 13:19
I'm so excited about this project, and it is great to see the D-13 "Yellow 10"! I love the attention that you have and will be giving it, with its different looks at different times in its life. It's really something, how rare that aircraft is. The best estimates seem to place Fw 190D total production, of all variants, at 650-700. A German report from April 7, 1945, indicates that only two Fw 190D-13's were in service at that time, "Yellow 10" (WNr. 836017) being one of them. (Although there doesn't seem to be any photographs of them, I have read that some researchers believe that as many as 17 D-13's were manufactured before war's end.)

"Yellow Ten" was assigned to Geschwader Kommodore Major Franz Goetz of JG 26 in March 1945. Goetz was a 63-victory ace and recipient of the Knight's Cross. He is reported to have been very pleased with this aircraft and its performance - with the end of the war practically in hand by that time, just how much the aircraft was flown before the end of the war isn't known.

I love the hodge-podge of items incorporated in the aircraft, as when the aircraft was built, anything that would fit and work was used - for instance, the left and right control consoles in the cockpit are from a Ta-152, and are items that the aircraft still retains.

skyhawka4m
October 17th, 2012, 13:31
Same here Bomber.....you and I sure do think alike!

robert41
October 17th, 2012, 14:59
Great stuff.

Chunk
October 17th, 2012, 15:15
This is torture Mathias! ;) It looks astounding!

Sundog
October 17th, 2012, 17:57
Love the D-13. I can't wait to fly it. Thanks for the previews.

MudMarine
October 18th, 2012, 04:09
Looks done to me! SET DORA FREE! SET DORA FREE! SET DORA FREE! :icon_lol:

alx
November 4th, 2012, 01:18
Some shots taken at Gilze-Rijen airport a few months after the end of the war. A strange
bird abandoned in a field .


http://www.italianwings.it/shots/GR-1.jpg


http://www.italianwings.it/shots/GR-2.jpg


http://www.italianwings.it/shots/GR-3.jpg

YoYo
November 4th, 2012, 01:50
Wow! Nice weathering!

Mathias
November 4th, 2012, 02:19
Should be noted that Alessandro's screenshots show one of three paintschemes for the sole known D-13 "Yellow 10", namely in the state it was in after being captured and flown to Gilze-Rijen and assigned the registration USA 14.

This is our representation of the same aircraft during service with JG26

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_13.jpg

And here the same aircraft as on display at the Flying Heritage Collection.
Note the more colorful interpretion of the RLM colors as implemented by the restorers.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_14.jpg

skyhawka4m
November 4th, 2012, 10:12
:applause:

when?!?!?! LOL

Ian Warren
November 4th, 2012, 10:29
I was reading Norman Franks book 'Battle of the Airfields Operation Bodenplatte' looking at some photo showing how harsh it was in the January 1945 , Alessandro's paint turns B/W photos into something we can understand , looks brilliant , also shows a photo of a D9 black 12 , the first Dora to fall into allied hands . <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden"><input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

Bomber_12th
November 4th, 2012, 11:14
Absolutely in-love! It's really cool to see the more saturated colors of the restored "Yellow 10", compared to the more mute colors of the depiction of the aircraft in 1945 - it's awesome to have both options, as I know for me, I'd prefer to use the restored version of the aircraft in FSX more than the depiciton of it in 1945 form, but I know many others that are that complete opposite of me, and we can all be perfectly content.

Just like as shown in Alessandro's screenshots of the aircraft in captured US markings (with the stars "upside down") - up to this point the aircraft had only been in existence for a few months:

(I love those big prop blades!)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/raiden/Fw_190_D-13.jpg

Ian Warren
November 4th, 2012, 12:06
I love those big prop blades!

I had a friend stop by last weekend , discussing the FW-190 based at Omaka here in New Zealand , about the prop , you can physically without much pressure bend the prop at the tip but 5 to 6 inches .

With the weapons used on these aircraft , the 20mm has one hell off a punch , one photo shows one massive hole in what you can say almost a tail of a Typhoon after a couple of D-9s strafed Eindhoven airfield .

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Scratch
November 4th, 2012, 14:01
Beautiful bird!!!

MudMarine
November 4th, 2012, 14:46
How much longer do we have to endure this in-humane torture? HOW LONG?!:jump:

P38man
November 4th, 2012, 14:47
Now those paints are so realistic and lovely in an artistic sense at the same time.

Actually thinking about it that is how I see Classics Hangars FW190 and Taifun was well.

I would even use the word elegant for these stallions and not feel that it is in any way a contradiction......

MudMarine
November 4th, 2012, 15:03
Now those paints are so realistic and lovely in an artistic sense at the same time.Actually thinking about it that is how I see Classics Hangars FW190 and Taifun was well.I would even use the word elegant for these stallions and not feel that it is in any way a contradiction......

Without question they are works of art!

pilottj
November 4th, 2012, 17:03
How much longer do we have to endure this in-humane torture? HOW LONG?!:jump:


It might be a little longer mate...still have the 152 comming, and I am not talking about the Cessna kind..:salute:

P38man
November 4th, 2012, 17:20
Without question they are works of art!

Spot on !!!! :applause:

Mathias
November 5th, 2012, 03:37
Thanks again everyone!

Had the first chance to look at the captured D-13 myself today and I must say I'm more than satisfied with Alessandro's paint work.
Love the footsteps on the wings! :-)
Promised, these are the last Dora teasers. Next to come is the Ta152.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_15.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-13_16.jpg

huub vink
November 6th, 2012, 07:35
Really amazing weathering Alessandro and thanks for posting the picture of the real thing John.

Huub

Ian Warren
November 6th, 2012, 11:42
Only place you get to see one fly ... on ya home PC ... i'm only trying to imagine the screens you could do with this one :icon_lol:


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Sundog
November 6th, 2012, 14:24
I love all of these Dora pics, especially of the latter more rare variants. Now I can't wait to see the Ta-152 pics.

AusWilko
December 3rd, 2012, 04:41
Just wondering if this is getting close or is it still away to go:ques:

Mathias
December 4th, 2012, 05:37
Hey AusWilko,

let's put it this way:
It's not so close to release that you would have to look for the jacket to leave the house for shopping.
Still some weeks away.

AusWilko
December 4th, 2012, 11:33
Cheers for that Mathias,

It's all good, I am 100% certain it will be outstanding when it comes and well worth the wait :salute:

skyhawka4m
December 4th, 2012, 13:08
Hey was it you guys who were also doing the HE-51? Wat ever happened to that one?

Mathias
December 5th, 2012, 00:33
That would be Craig's of Classic Wings He51 that is being painted by Huub.
Waiting for this one myself. :-)

AusWilko
December 16th, 2012, 04:12
Resisted all xmas specials and F111 releases and saving my money for this, very hard but I am sure worth it :applause:

YoYo
December 16th, 2012, 10:13
@Mathias!

Maybe not a Dora but YouTube waits for Your Focke Wulf too! :icon_lol:

http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2012/12/f2e934cda365f57c44df08c4381a694d_original.jpeg

AusWilko
January 10th, 2013, 15:27
Rise into the light

Just inquiring where this is up to these days, not pushing, just wondering is all :salute:

Mathias
January 11th, 2013, 01:48
Hey guys,

sorry, missed those last few post because we're hard at work.:salute:
Still a couple of weeks away from release but I hope you'll find the result worth the wait.
Thanks!

AusWilko
January 11th, 2013, 02:00
I am certain it will be well worth it

Sundog
January 11th, 2013, 16:02
Yeah, it will definitely be worth the wait. Don't rush it, but please hurry up. ;)

Just kidding, make sure you guys take all of the time you need. I know it's/they're going to be a great addition to the hanger.

SADT
January 13th, 2013, 16:09
Hi Mathias,

Will you be implementing the 2 or 3 speed (Depending on the model) supercharger? Or was this controlled by the "Kommandogerat" computer? Will GM-1 be available for short periods of boosting?

Craig.

Marvin Carter
January 13th, 2013, 19:06
Ich habe immer dieses Flugzeug geliebt!!! Did I say it right?

Mathias
January 18th, 2013, 05:50
Hey Sadt, yes, the two or three stage loader (depending on subversion) was controlled by the Motorbediengerät how the thing was called at Junkers and it will be implemented as well as GM-1.

@Marv: Perfect, brother! :salute:

Mathias
January 30th, 2013, 02:39
Little update from the Ta152 construction hangar.
We're closing in on final with the cockpit developement (the exterior is allready complete).
Just a few little bits on the side consoles to do and some texture/shader tweaking and we're off doing the final code bits, testing and handbook typing. :-)

The Ta152 pit looks similar to the previous versions at first glance but it's really an almost complete rebuild.
You can see a number of the cockpit surfaces have been substituted with wood due to shortages in metal, and there's a number of changes owing the pressurized cabin requirements. More details on that can be read in the handbook in due time. :mrgreen:

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/ta152_cockpit_16.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/ta152_cockpit_17.jpg

Yossarian1943
January 30th, 2013, 02:44
Looks fantastic! :applause:

roger-wilco-66
January 30th, 2013, 03:27
Art !

Bomber_12th
January 30th, 2013, 08:03
Absolutely exceptional, Mathias! I love the authentic detail of the wood panels being substituted in for the metal panels, and the fine textured hints that allow you to see that. When work is as authentic and detailed as this (the same goes for Flight Replica's work as well), it's viewing history recreated - like virtually taking a peak into a time capsule aircraft at the Smithsonian (that you can fly!).

Mach3DS
January 30th, 2013, 08:28
Well said John, that goes for your creations as well. If anyone is in the neighborhood, the Paul Allen Historical Flight Center located on Paine field Everett, WA (KPAE) houses some of the most complete flyable aircraft in the world. They also have a Ta-152 if I'm not mistaken. It's restored to flight worthy condition but almost never flown because of it's so rare. IIRC I was told that even on it's test "flight" it didn't actually fly. The pilot simply raised it off the ground and then set it back down immediately. They do have an 'A' model that does fly along with their Bf-109. They also have the only flyable IL-2 in the U.S. I had the privilege of being there on the day of it's 5 test flight and captured some photos and video of the engine shut down and subsequent tug back into the museum. Another wonderful thing about the museum is that it smells just like an active hangar...because it is! all the displays are temporary barricaded and all aircraft that are currently flying have oil pans under them and mechanics are actively working on aircraft while you are there. It's one of the most interesting places to visit truly. I was able to see the IL-2 pre reegining, and then came back and was able to see it fly. Truly remarkable!

http://www.flyingheritage.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId=1

Ok, not a true Ta-152, it's a FW-190D-13....but close! :) still a beauty!

One Edit...seems I was mistaken, about this one. It's close to flyable Condition. The nice thing is that when you visit the museum you can opt to have a guided tour with a personal guide, and they will tell you about each aircraft and the stories about the specific aircraft in the museum. I must have been thinking of another airplane in the fleet...at any rate, extremely rare, and very beautiful aircraft that Dora.

Mathias
January 30th, 2013, 08:46
Thanks guys!

John, thank you kindly!
Yeah, making something like a believable plywood was quite challenging, but I think it turned out quite well.

Rick, if you go some pages back in this thread you'll find this particular D-13 in three different states during it's life, in Luftwaffe service, post capture and how it's on display today.

You're looking at game textures btw ex spec map, means there's a lot more dynamics going on in FSX than you see in those quick renders.
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/ta152_cockpit_18.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/ta152_cockpit_19.jpg

Flyboy208
January 30th, 2013, 08:55
Well said John, that goes for your creations as well. If anyone is in the neighborhood, the Paul Allen Historical Flight Center located on Paine field Everett, WA (KPAE) houses some of the most complete flyable aircraft in the world. They also have a Ta-152 if I'm not mistaken. It's restored to flight worthy condition but almost never flown because of it's so rare. IIRC I was told that even on it's test "flight" it didn't actually fly. The pilot simply raised it off the ground and then set it back down immediately. They do have an 'A' model that does fly along with their Bf-109. They also have the only flyable IL-2 in the U.S. I had the privilege of being there on the day of it's 5 test flight and captured some photos and video of the engine shut down and subsequent tug back into the museum. Another wonderful thing about the museum is that it smells just like an active hangar...because it is! all the displays are temporary barricaded and all aircraft that are currently flying have oil pans under them and mechanics are actively working on aircraft while you are there. It's one of the most interesting places to visit truly. I was able to see the IL-2 pre reegining, and then came back and was able to see it fly. Truly remarkable!

http://www.flyingheritage.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId=1

Ok, not a true Ta-152, it's a FW-190D-13....but close! :) still a beauty!


I am going to The Flying Heritage Collection this Spring, will be sure to take many pictures .... Mike

By the way, looking absolutely fantastic Mathias ... :applause:

Chunk
January 30th, 2013, 09:52
The Flying Heritage Collection is AMAZING!

Mathias, this work is absolutely stunning! I can't wait to add this to the hangar immediately upon release.

Mathias
February 12th, 2013, 02:55
Some ingame Ta152 shots.
The exterior still needs weathering, spec and bump maps.
The interior needs some dirt and some tweaking.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_28.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_29.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_30.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_31.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_32.jpg

AusWilko
February 12th, 2013, 03:04
Looking very cool :applause:

jankees
February 12th, 2013, 03:14
I like it!

hairyspin
February 12th, 2013, 09:57
Milviz better watch out, that's at least as good as their Sabre VC imo. Gorgeous work Mathias! :salute::salute::salute:

mike_cyul
February 12th, 2013, 12:11
I love the wood of the cockpit side panels. Just beautifully done.:ernae:


Mike

Ian Warren
February 12th, 2013, 12:39
That is looking ... crikey were is my screwdriver :cool: looking so good inside its almost able to be taken apart !

huub vink
February 12th, 2013, 12:44
Personally I prefer the Dora-9 as the Ta152 is too skinny for my taste. However the VC really looks amazing! You definitely have out done yourself!

Cheers,
Huub

Chunk
February 12th, 2013, 15:57
Wow!!! It looks fan-friggin-tastic Mathias.

Sundog
February 12th, 2013, 16:06
Love it! Can't wait. :)

Mathias
February 18th, 2013, 03:10
Just throwing in a few more Ta152 shots with completed interior spec maps.
Just needs a bit of dirt here and there.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_34.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_35.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_36.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_37.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_38.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_39.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_40.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_41.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_42.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_43.jpg

vora
February 18th, 2013, 03:32
:icon_eek: I think this is called "setting the bar" :icon_eek:

Daveroo
February 18th, 2013, 06:52
thats just awesome....threads on the bolts,ect...super detailed..but i wonder...will all that super detailing be hard on slower/weaker systems?...

Mathias
February 18th, 2013, 07:00
Thanks guys!

thats just awesome....threads on the bolts,ect...super detailed..but i wonder...will all that super detailing be hard on slower/weaker systems?...

Dave, it uses basically the same level of detail in terms of poligon count and number of textures as all our previous aircraft, so if you can run those there'll be no issues with this one.
So far our crates are not known for being fps hogs as far as I can tell.

big-mike
February 18th, 2013, 07:04
Mathias---Du bist ein Sadist!!!!!!!:running:
Michael

Naruto-kun
February 18th, 2013, 07:05
Hey Mathias did you get my email?

Mathias
February 18th, 2013, 07:07
Hey John, yes, got it. Will reply later tonight if that's fine with you. On the run right now. :-)

Ian Warren
February 18th, 2013, 10:28
Oooooo Boy , that cockpit .. only one thing missing ... the Steiny holder :guinness:..... for those long flights of course :icon_lol:<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><input jscode="leoInternalChangeDone()" onclick="if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setT imeout('jsCall()',500);}" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

AusWilko
February 18th, 2013, 11:21
Outstanding stuff, cant wait for it, Im on the away for another 12 days so hopefully by the time I get back it will be out

Chunk
February 18th, 2013, 13:01
Raising the bar again. Your VC's are, IMHO, the best, by a good margin too.

skyhawka4m
February 19th, 2013, 21:00
81464

thunder100
February 20th, 2013, 06:59
thats just awesome....threads on the bolts,ect...super detailed..but i wonder...will all that super detailing be hard on slower/weaker systems?...

Runs flat out 35 on my very vulnerable system (fixed 35 FPS Nvidia GTX470) on par with best payware Carenado

challenge is more flying it-its really fast

Roland

Stickshaker
July 21st, 2013, 01:08
Hello Mathias,

Any news? I think many of us are eagerly looking forward to the Dora's and Ta's. The Classics Hangar website has been really silent on this for a while...

warchild
July 21st, 2013, 03:13
Well, the "feel" of an aircraft comes from accurately calculated moments of inertia from what I've been told but I'll leave that debatte to the more competent experts.:icon_lol:
I'm sure Greg Pierson of Avhistory will pop in and and comment on the aerofiles when time has come.

Nahhhhh.. its not just the inertia.. The entire plane is a ballet of different shapes sizes and weights that all work together. Perhaps i'm just an old romantic, but i see it that way. When all the parts are in balance the plane will dance through the air just like its real counterpart did. if they arent in balance, it wont..
my hats off too you for a great looking aircraft :)..

huub vink
July 21st, 2013, 04:30
Hey Stickshaker,

I'm of course not Mathias spokesman, but as I don't know whether he sees this I will tell you what I know.

Last week I have been in contact with Mathias. Some positive events in his real life has kept him away from this project. Recently his PC has broken down (which is of course not so positive), but after his PC has been repaired he hopes to return (and finish) this project.

Cheers,
Huub

Stickshaker
July 21st, 2013, 04:42
Thanks, Huub! I am glad that the 'events' are positive and that the project is still on.

MudMarine
July 21st, 2013, 05:35
I'm lucky to be testing it!! It's going to be well worth the wait! It's just a beautifully done aircraft!!

Stickshaker
July 21st, 2013, 05:58
I'm lucky to be testing it!! It's going to be well worth the wait! It's just a beautifully done aircraft!!
Tell us more, tell us more! Any features that are novel or display specific characteristics of the aircraft?

alx
July 21st, 2013, 23:45
Textures are practically ready. Now I'm working on stencils and last finishing touch.

dhazelgrove
July 22nd, 2013, 04:14
I'm not a warbird flier - but that TA-152 is very tempting.

Dave

MudMarine
July 22nd, 2013, 04:21
The TA-152 is freaking beautiful! Mathias does beautiful work!! The pits alone are worth the money and the external model.....BOING!!

huub vink
July 22nd, 2013, 13:32
In fact there are quite some differences between the Anton and Dora models (and the Ta-152) The BMW engine on the Anton models is quite vulnerable, while the Jumo engine in the Dora is nearly indestructible.

As the Dora was developed later than the Anton, different technical solutions are chosen at some points, but shortage on materials and skilled labour men also forced the Germans to introduce less sophisticated solutions.
Al this comes very much alive in the models by Mathias. The silk (external) textures by Alessandro Biaggi give the models an extra dimension.

Cheers,
Huub

Mathias
August 28th, 2013, 09:11
Glad that I can count on my mates while I'm out of the house!
Thanks for filling the gaps, Huub! :salute::jump:

Little update, a view of the 2d radiostack popup.
We very loosely adopted the look of a German FuG16 and ported it over into current day Nav/Com functionality.
I think this one has a very intuitive interface and will be very straight forward to use
.http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Fw190_Radiostack.jpg

TheGrunt
August 28th, 2013, 10:28
Glad that I can count on my mates while I'm out of the house!
Thanks for filling the gaps, Huub! :salute::jump:

Little update, a view of the 2d radiostack popup.
We very loosely adopted the look of a German FuG16 and ported it over into current day Nav/Com functionality.
I think this one has a very intuitive interface and will be very straight forward to use.
Nice :applause:

I really appreciate 2d radio panel, it is usually much easier to operate radios on 2d panel than in VC, where sometimes, depending on the radio location and type, you practically have to pause the whole sim while fiddling with the frequencies.

SADT
August 28th, 2013, 13:19
Hi Mathias,

This is looking awesome, I can't wait!

After watching the Battle of Britain, I've had an urge to fly DLW aircraft in general - of course, sadly I've found there are far fewer DLW aircraft than western allies aircraft (And Soviet aircraft even less than DLW..), so this will no doubt be a valuable addition to the "fleet"!

As an aside, do you plan to put the new 2D radio stack into the FW190A series as an update, it looks like it could be a really useful addition to have.

Regards,
Craig.
Sent from Tapatalk

b52bob
August 28th, 2013, 16:49
I'm not a big ww2 type guy (cold war era fan) but the Dora is one I have always liked the look of. Have a hard time waiting for this one, will certainly get it.

ColoKent
August 28th, 2013, 18:38
...because hopefully the NEXT one to be released will be the BF-110!

K

Mathias
August 30th, 2013, 13:46
Thanks guys!

@ Craig: I'm fancying to bring a couple of the new things over into the Antons, the radios being one of them

@ ColoKent: S'pose I'm running out of weak excuses if I don't continue on the Zerstörer "NEXT", don't you think?! :mixedsmi::salute::icon_lol:

Scratch
August 30th, 2013, 14:18
No such thing as too many German a/c. I think what everyone is trying to say is that we will buy anything you make. The quality of your work does justice to these marvels of German engineering and your dedication to your customers is unsurpassed. I reckon that means you have a 'cult' following here.:ernae::applause::salute::guinness::gameon:

Mathias
September 7th, 2013, 02:01
Cheers Craig, you're more than welcome!

Some Ta152 shots.
That thing has some serious wingspan! :-)

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_56.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_57.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_58.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_59.jpg

Steven190
September 7th, 2013, 06:10
I can speak for all, that we are anxiously waiting for this.

Great work.

Kiwikat
September 7th, 2013, 06:14
Looking great! :applause:

P38man
November 25th, 2013, 00:39
Anyone know how Mathias is?

YoYo
November 25th, 2013, 00:54
Anyone know how Mathias is?

Maybe work on Dora for P3Dv2 ; ) ?

Mathias
November 25th, 2013, 03:39
He is well and doing final cleanup/polishing and typing Fw190D/Ta152H manuals, for FSX that is. :-)

P38man
November 25th, 2013, 03:50
He is well and doing final cleanup/polishing and typing Fw190D/Ta152H manuals, for FSX that is. :-)

Great to hear on both counts....

padburgess
November 26th, 2013, 00:39
Great to hear Mathias is well Mathias. Take good care of him as we are all waiting patiently for his next brilliant release. And the one after that but no pressure.
All the best Mathias and I personally am looking forward to both of your next aircraft.

Mathias
November 28th, 2013, 08:11
Thanks much guys!
Here's a quote from our support forum:


we are targeting for a release on Sunday, 15.December 2013 at the very latest.
That is if no serious illness, earthquake, fire or the like or (beware!) unforseeable program faults get in the way.

robert41
November 28th, 2013, 08:23
Good news.

Mathias
November 28th, 2013, 08:23
http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_60.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/Ta152H_61.jpg


This time we have an easy-to-use payload manager with a unique interface to each subvariant that allows you to add/remove payloads and fuel "on the fly" with a simple mouse click.
As you can see the Ta152H-1 has more fuel/methanol/nitrous tanks than gun shells! :-)

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/manager_ta152h1.jpg

Daube
November 28th, 2013, 08:47
Sold.

And these are useless words to meet the minimum message size :')

Mathias
November 29th, 2013, 03:23
Two more shots of the D-9, one with DX10 cockpit shadows.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_39.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190d-9_40.jpg

ColoKent
November 29th, 2013, 04:48
Was the D-9 the final version of the FW-190?

Kent

Mathias
November 29th, 2013, 04:54
Was the D-9 the final version of the FW-190?

Kent

No, the final operational Fw190 would be the Ta152H-1, even though it didn't carry the name Fw190 anymore in honor of Kurt Tank.
The last of the Doras was the D-13, also included with this package.
It's fair to say though that the D-9 was the last Fw190 to be build in meaningfull numbers.

thunder100
November 29th, 2013, 06:07
And a D-9 is "easy*" to fly compared to an D-13

Humble opinon of a Team member

Roland

*As far as any of them can be called easy.An 190 A-8 is Kindergarden compared to D-9 though

Daube
November 29th, 2013, 06:20
I can't stop staring at that virtual cockpit screenshot....

Sundog
November 29th, 2013, 07:59
And a D-9 is "easy*" to fly compared to an D-13 Humble opinon of a Team member Roland *As far as any of them can be called easy.An 190 A-8 is Kindergarden compared to D-9 though Why would the D-13 be any more difficult to fly than the D-9? Engine management issues?

Mathias
November 29th, 2013, 08:03
Can't really verify that statement either. As a matter of fact the testers don't yet have the latest aerofile build.
There's probably some meshup with the airfiles or in the weight and balance sections.

Sundog
November 29th, 2013, 08:09
OK thanks. Other than the armament changes, I couldn't figure out why it would be that much more difficult to fly. It's a beta thing. I, however, can't wait to fly all of them. :)

ColoKent
November 29th, 2013, 08:21
UGH...let's hope we don't have to live through the D-10, D-11, D-12, D-13 and Ta-152 before Mathias picks up on the BF-110...I am SO looking forward to that baby....just a neat airplane-- the screenshots he has shown so far are stunning.

Kent