Read It & Weep

[Smashing Time]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SmashingBomb/chicom.jpg

http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2012/07/chinese-industrialist-behind-hawker-beechcraft-bid?et_cid=2746555&et_rid=353761346&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.manufacturing.net%2fnews%2 f2012%2f07%2fchinese-industrialist-behind-hawker-beechcraft-bid

[Naki]

Hawker (as in the manufacturer of the Hurricane) is really now part of BAe Systems which is still (mostly?) British owned so I don't think that a pic of a Hurricane is that relevant in the context of Hawker Beechcraft taken over by the Chinese.

The Hawker name was taken when Raytheon bought the 125 business jet range (which was actually DeHavilland design not orignally a Hawker product, although DeHavilland later came part of Hawker Siddley though:isadizzy:) off Bae and merged it with their Beechcraft range. The rest of the Hawker aircraft stayed with Bae. The BAe Harrier and Hawk could be called true Hawkers and can trace their lineage back to the Hawker Hunter.

In any case its happening everywhere (some of our farms have been bought by the Chinese) with the cash rich Chinese and Indian compaines buying up companies in fire sales....

[Smashing Time]

Hawker (as in the manufacturer of the Hurricane) is really now part of BAe Systems which is still (mostly?) British owned so I don't think that a pic of a Hurricane is that relevant in the context of Hawker Beechcraft taken over by the Chinese.

The Hawker name was taken when Raytheon bought the 125 business jet range (which was actually DeHavilland design not orignally a Hawker product, although DeHavilland later came part of Hawker Siddley though:isadizzy:) off Bae and merged it with their Beechcraft range. The rest of the Hawker aircraft stayed with Bae. The BAe Harrier and Hawk could be called true Hawkers and can trace their lineage back to the Hawker Hunter.

In any case its happening everywhere (some of our farms have been bought by the Chinese) with the cash rich Chinese and Indian companies buying up companies in fire sales....

I just see a giant mish mash of former euro aircraft and industrial companies in BAE with no Hawker name associated with any production aircraft? So I see this as the only Hawker aircraft name now owned by the ChiComs along with our own Beechcraft.
Too your other point your right -the west is being sold out....:frown:

[cheezyflier]

part of the "bailout" from several years ago, was funded by china.

[Smashing Time]

well we all know who got the "bailout money"
here's an update.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/court-approves-talks-sale-hawker-beechcraft

[N2056]

Considering the Photoshopped Hurricane that led off this thread...along with the subject matter, could someone please convince me this thread is not political in nature? :isadizzy:

[Smashing Time]

you sound confused.

[N2056]

In what way?

Your initial pic was doctored to make a statement. Prove me wrong.

Beyond that the subject matter is absolutely political in that you are unhappy about what country is potentially buying the company in question.

[Firekitten]

Politics aside, which I'd love to go into... but won't. Hawker, that made the Hurricane, Disapeared eons ago. If they are still 'alive' in a way, its as part of the thriving BAE systems, not Hawker Beechcraft. Even if it was, how Chinese finance buying a company now, makes an aircraft produced 70 years ago Chinese escapes me.

As for 'Our' Beechcraft'. It wasn't a nationalized country... anyone could have bought it, and had a right to it. Who cares if its the Chinese... If anything, it means a massive economic BOOST to the US, rather than the company folding and jobs lost.

And please don't call them 'Chicoms' Vietnam ended 37 years ago... the cold war ended in 91... we are not at war with the 'commies' and hearing that sort of comment and tone of this post from an American, makes you seem like sore economic looser, unwilling to move on.

[cheezyflier]

why not go into the politics? it seems to be ok so far... and frankly, i agree with you. that was my point in referencing the bank bailouts. to cry foul over this is a little like closing the barn door after the animals done run off.

[Paul Anderson]

http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/fabrication/news/hawker-beechcraft-execs-seeks-5-million-in-bonuses-amid-bankruptcy-72149?tmp=0&utm_source=CMO&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CMO-EN07242012&e=u1y0w270s3Wx0qq8w0M20