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rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 08:28
....Is there one available for FSX? Doesn't matter to me if it's payware or freeware. Thanks.
RD
hschuit
June 7th, 2012, 08:36
Virtavia F-86F (payware, native FSX)
Section F8 F-86E/F for FS2004/FSX (freeware, portover http://www.sectionf8.com/ )
WIP, not sure when it will be available:
Milviz F-86F (payware, native FSX)
rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 08:50
Virtavia F-86F (payware, native FSX)
Section F8 F-86E/F for FS2004/FSX (freeware, portover http://www.sectionf8.com/ )
WIP, not sure when it will be available:
Milviz F-86F (payware, native FSX)
Thank you. I saw the F8 but like you, not sure when the update will be available. I'm now off to take a look at the payware version and Virtavia.
RD
ST0RM
June 7th, 2012, 08:58
The SectionF8 Sabre is awesome in FSX. Just follow the instructions and save your cash.
The SectionF8 Sabre is awesome in FSX. Just follow the instructions and save your cash.
Thank You for the heads-up.
rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 09:24
The SectionF8 Sabre is awesome in FSX. Just follow the instructions and save your cash.
Well, after taking a look at the Virtavia model, I decided not to purchase it. (Everyone please notice that I am simply stating a preference. That's all.)
RD
rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 09:37
The SectionF8 Sabre is awesome in FSX. Just follow the instructions and save your cash.
Well, I'm one of those computer challenged individuals. Could not get to anything resembling a download for this airplane. Anybody want to send me a p.m. with the link?
RD
Well, I'm one of those computer challenged individuals. Could not get to anything resembling a download for this airplane. Anybody want to send me a p.m. with the link?
RD
Although I have not yet downloaded it, I am assuming from the original thread posts that the FS9 model also works well in FSX, even though an FSX update appears to be imminent.
http://www.sectionf8.com/
Roadburner440
June 7th, 2012, 10:12
Jon is working dilligently on wrapping up the coding on ours so we can get her in to beta testing. So we have no firm, or even guesstimated date at this point when she will hit the store. Once we get her into beta and we start nailing down some features/eliminating the basic bugs going to give you guys some more info.
rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 10:26
Although I have not yet downloaded it, I am assuming from the original thread posts that the FS9 model also works well in FSX, even though an FSX update appears to be imminent. http://www.sectionf8.com/
I finally got the basepack from Avsim. Still NO JOY in FSX. That is unless I want to fly it IFR as I can't see outside the cockpit. I'm just going to give up on this airplane for FSX. For the time being, when I want to fly an F86, I'll do it in FS9.
RD
rdaniell
June 7th, 2012, 10:31
Jon is working dilligently on wrapping up the coding on ours so we can get her in to beta testing. So we have no firm, or even guesstimated date at this point when she will hit the store. Once we get her into beta and we start nailing down some features/eliminating the basic bugs going to give you guys some more info.
Right after I posted my initial inquiry, I noticed the thread about Milviz's F86. It looks really good. Since it is a dedicated FSX product, there should be no issues with seeing outside from inside the virtual cockpit. Thanks Roadburner 440 for the heads up.
Again, nobody take any offense at me, but it has been my limited experience that if you want an FSX airplane it is best to wait for a "Native" version. Far less hassels that way.
RD
skyhawka4m
June 7th, 2012, 11:14
section 8
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delta_lima
June 7th, 2012, 11:37
Right after I posted my initial inquiry, I noticed the thread about Milviz's F86. It looks really good. Since it is a dedicated FSX product, there should be no issues with seeing outside from inside the virtual cockpit. Thanks Roadburner 440 for the heads up.
Again, nobody take any offense at me, but it has been my limited experience that if you want an FSX airplane it is best to wait for a "Native" version. Far less hassels that way.
RD
1. Regarding the Sabre - Your issues have to do with you having the wrong files. I'm not at my sim pc, or I'd happily point you to where to get them. It is a simple FSX pack that has everything you need. This aircraft has been flown in FSX Accell for years successfully. In my case, the only issue I've not resolved is night-time panel lighting - but others seem to have no issue, so I'm suspecting some funky issue on my end. Of course, It's your prerogative to wait on Milviz's or not.
2. Regarding your opinion of ports : As a general statement, your last paragraph is completely untrue, and belies, as you point out, "limited experience" with FSX. It assumes that that all ports are fraught with problems, and it assumes that for every FS9 model, there is an FSX model en route. Needless to say, neither is the case. Not knocking that you're new to FSX (we all were at some point), nor that you have an opinion (who doesn't?) - but I believe you're shortchanging yourself on some good FS9 models that I can virtually guarantee will never be developed as FSX native projects.
Some portovers are indeed "hassels" [sic]. The Cloud9 Starfighter, as an example. However, many are not. Doug's Firefly, as an example, needs but a simple prop/canopy texture fix that makes it perfectly usable in this sim. The Alphasim RF-4 Phantom (from pack #3) is another perfect example. Roger, Don, (and others) have been uploading fixes for years, that once installed, make these and a whole host of other models perfectly useable. David Maltby's BAC-111 is another perfect example of a successful port-over with virtually ZERO needed to make it work. The phenomenal FS2002 (yes, 2002!) Dassault Falcon 50 has been worked over by a team including our Vonstreim, and others to result in a model easily rivals payware quality. The list, as seen in a "portover thread" here is in the scores, if not hundreds of examples. Of course, the work behind these projects is sometimes considerable - but from the users' point of view, the fixes/upgrades take no time to install or apply - and give life to an aircraft that would almost certainly never otherwise fly in FSX.
In the case of the F-86, you're fortunate that (likely) within a few months, you can have a true FSX model. But in the case of other FS9 aircraft - particularly Cold War jets - you needn't write them off carte blanche.
Again, not taking offense - I've developed none of these FS9 models. I'm only saying that re-visiting your assumptions will lead you to a different conclusion - at least for some of the FS9 gems.
Hope that helps ...
DL
Delta_Lima:
If you have a link, I'd appreciate getting it. Seems like the Section 8 Download Center takes me to OZx website. I have found paints for the Section 8 F-86 there but not the base model. So I could use a point.
Thank You.
delta_lima
June 7th, 2012, 12:32
Delta_Lima:
If you have a link, I'd appreciate getting it. Seems like the Section 8 Download Center takes me to OZx website. I have found paints for the Section 8 F-86 there but not the base model. So I could use a point.
Thank You.
My pleasure.
I'll look tonight.
cheers,
DL
PS: I should have added in my earlier post that I've used the SectionF8 in FSX Acceleration, not DX10, as I don't have it. Cannot comment on whether or it works well with DX10 - I'm sure others have tried and can comment.
BigTool4U
June 7th, 2012, 13:11
Some of the files are still up on the original site:
http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sf86ef.zip
http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sf86skns.zip
http://www.sectionf8.com/files/F86EF_FlightManual.zip
http://www.sectionf8.com/dev/F-86E%26F%20Pilot%27s%20Checklist.pdf
These are the missing files, maybe you can find them using Google:
sf86efu1.zip
sf86_repaint.zip
sf8f-86fsxup.zip
delta_lima
June 7th, 2012, 13:17
Bingo,
When Big Tool listed that file, I remembered where I had gotten it from ... here at SOH! :)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=12985
cheers,
and thanks Big Tool for jogging my memory.
DL
fxsttcb
June 7th, 2012, 14:10
Last but not least, FS9 SP: "sf86efu1.zip" http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=86&page=6
The Base Pack: "sf86ef.zip" is also on that page near the top...Don
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Not quite sure what happened to me. Prior to making the request to delta_lima, I went to the Section 8 web site and the Download Center and it listed about 5 categories of .zip files. Every time I clicked on one, I was re-routed to the Aussie web site of OZx with basically Australian airports and scenery and other items. There were ONLY 3rd-party repaints for the F-86 there.
ANYWAY, Thanks to BigTool4U. delta_lima and fxsttcb for the help and the links :salute:
fsafranek
June 7th, 2012, 20:36
Last but not least, FS9 SP: "sf86efu1.zip" http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=86&page=6
The Base Pack: "sf86ef.zip" is also on that page near the top...Don
You'll find repaints on nearly every page going forward from there.
The three files mentioned by BigTool4U can be found here:
http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=sf86efu1.zip (http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=sf86efu1.zip)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?FileUploadName=sf86_repaint.zip (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileUploadName=Javis)
http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=sf8f-86fsxup.zip (http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=sf8f-86fsxup.zip)
Hope this helps.
:ernae:
Naruto-kun
June 9th, 2012, 08:41
FWIW a few ingame externals of the Milviz F-86. A few more code tweaks before sending off to the testers.
No pilot figure in yet.
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-1.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-2.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-3.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-4.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-5.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-6.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-7.jpg
skyhawka4m
June 9th, 2012, 08:45
looks nice but not too excited about the "rough" looking metal finish seen especially in the unside shots. will this be cleaned up some or is it an early paint?
johannesl
June 9th, 2012, 09:17
Probably not going to really help anyone at this point, but if you have a copy, or know someone with a copy, of PC Pilot magazine issue 59 (Jan-Feb 2009) the F8 F-86 was included on their freeware CD along with a full review article. They liked it a lot.
Stefano Zibell
June 9th, 2012, 09:40
http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sf86fsx_fixup.zip
This link should bring you the sabre already fixed for fsx. You should, however, install the SP1 gauge fix if you experience airbrake related issues.
Godspeed.
rdaniell
June 9th, 2012, 13:11
http://sectionf8.com/f86files/sf86fsx_fixup.zip This link should bring you the sabre already fixed for fsx. You should, however, install the SP1 gauge fix if you experience airbrake related issues. Godspeed.
Stefano, thank you very much for this link. I downloaded and installed it. Took it up for a quick test hop before this posting. All systems worked fine.
Back in 1966 while flying Blind Bat out of Ubon RTAF Base, there was a RAAF detachment there. They were flying F-86s. We took the commander up on a mission over the "Trail" with us one night.
RD
Naismith
June 9th, 2012, 13:21
Let us not forget Kirk Olsson and his Sabre which if memory serves me correctly is the A variant, and although FS9 holds up very well in FSX, no longer cutting edge but still very good.
Akatsuki
June 9th, 2012, 13:52
FWIW a few ingame externals of the Milviz F-86. A few more code tweaks before sending off to the testers.
No pilot figure in yet.
Looking forward to this one.:jump:
rdaniell
June 9th, 2012, 15:15
I've been messing around with the virtual cockpit lighting. I swapped out the one in the download with the fx_red_lamp effect that is included in full's Ercoupe. Disclaimer: No two rigs are the same so anybody trying this most likely will not get the exact same results. I didn't even get the same results on my two computers...LOL But close enough.
RD
strykerpsg
June 9th, 2012, 17:47
section 8
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Great looking pic SH. I may have to look for this one myself and install it, awaiting the Milviz release.
strykerpsg
June 9th, 2012, 17:51
FWIW a few ingame externals of the Milviz F-86. A few more code tweaks before sending off to the testers.
No pilot figure in yet.
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-1.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-2.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-3.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-4.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-5.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-6.jpg
http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz%20F-86/F86-7.jpg
Oh my, thanks so much for sharing. This looks even better than the pic SH posted. I am definitely not tracking the issue SH is talking about, but these are simply stunning and looking forward to the release.
67260
Section 8 still the winner. You can't beat the photoreal textures. And the available paints are numerous. :salute::salute::salute:
olderndirt
June 9th, 2012, 19:04
67263For a ported FS9 model, the next will have to be pretty good.
skyhawka4m
June 9th, 2012, 20:43
Oh my, thanks so much for sharing. This looks even better than the pic SH posted. I am definitely not tracking the issue SH is talking about, but these are simply stunning and looking forward to the release.
Actually I too am looking forward to it...but I also know that we have many many talented repainters here and I know at some point there will be paints that fit my fancy......honestly....bring my a nice clean jet with standard USAF markings.....no unit markings....I'm happy!
delta_lima
June 9th, 2012, 21:35
I've been messing around with the virtual cockpit lighting. I swapped out the one in the download with the fx_red_lamp effect that is included in full's Ercoupe. Disclaimer: No two rigs are the same so anybody trying this most likely will not get the exact same results. I didn't even get the same results on my two computers...LOL But close enough.
RD
Hey RD,
I'd like to try this when I get a minute - it has been the sole thing about this model (in FSX) that's bugged me to no end - that I can't get the night lighting to work. I'd certainly be very happy with what you've just shown. Looks pretty good to me! :ernae:.
Cheers,
DL
strykerpsg
June 9th, 2012, 22:17
Actually I too am looking forward to it...but I also know that we have many many talented repainters here and I know at some point there will be paints that fit my fancy......honestly....bring my a nice clean jet with standard USAF markings.....no unit markings....I'm happy!
You've definitely done some nice paints and really liked your Bronco series. I'm looking forward to what you'll make on the upcoming Skyhawk from Virtavia. Also, did you ever finish your European One variant of the Bronco? You were on a roll for a while. When you stopped, I figured you got a bit burned out.
Also, with regard to the posted Milviz pics, I just thought the dragon looked really cool and am always amazed how many real world paints you and others are able to reproduce. Thanks for your work and all other painters.
strykerpsg
June 9th, 2012, 22:20
67260
Section 8 still the winner. You can't beat the photoreal textures. And the available paints are numerous. :salute::salute::salute:
I gotta admit, that too is a stunning model. I actually got to see what I can only assume was a contractor DACT version here at McChord, about 10 years ago. It was parked at McChord and was here for about 2 weeks. I don't recall if the F-15's were still stationed at McChord or not. Perhaps it was working the Oregon ANG and Alaskan Air Command birds, but still a very cool site and sound, nonetheless.
ViperVFX
June 9th, 2012, 23:07
looks nice but not too excited about the "rough" looking metal finish seen especially in the unside shots. will this be cleaned up some or is it an early paint?http://clip2net.com/clip/m95261/thumb640/1339311740-neam_f-86f_01-196kb.jpghttp://clip2net.com/clip/m95261/thumb640/1339311740-neam_f-86f_02-201kb.jpghttp://clip2net.com/clip/m95261/thumb640/1339311740-neam_f-86f_03-177kb.jpghttp://clip2net.com/clip/m95261/thumb640/1339311740-1282976-313kb.jpghttp://clip2net.com/clip/m95261/thumb640/1339311740-1785453-219kb.jpg
Just look on photos :)
greenie
June 10th, 2012, 01:16
Whilst the freeware one has to be one of the best freeware offerings out there, I just know the Milviz will be better . The difference would be sitting in the vc and (possibly) the fde . I feel fairly confident and assume the vc is of no less a quality than already produced by Milviz in their F15 or T38 . Looking forward to it since most of my time is in the cockpit. :)
rdaniell
June 10th, 2012, 04:28
Hey RD, I'd like to try this when I get a minute - it has been the sole thing about this model (in FSX) that's bugged me to no end - that I can't get the night lighting to work. I'd certainly be very happy with what you've just shown. Looks pretty good to me! :ernae:. Cheers, DL
light.8= 4, 2.90, 0.00, 1.90, fx_red_lamp
This is the line in my aircraft config file. The effect is the one I did for full's Ercoupe. I was trying to simulate a single redlamp illuminating the panel. I hope you get good results with it.
RD
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