(Payware) Just Flight English Electric Lightning F.6 on sale now

[papab]

Released for sale:
http://justflight.com/

Rick

[dvj]

Recently arrived at Duxford :applause:

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[shackleton_boy]

Downloading as i type - anyone willing to do the Thunder City aircraft?

[Chris Keane]

Downloaded - Manual printed - this'll keep me out of the bar tonight ...:icon_eek:

[noddy]

Love it, great to have one in FSX.

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[Ian Warren]

RAF s Bolt from the blue , Just Flights English Electric Lightning F6
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[dvj]

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/452mach_trail.jpg

[noddy]

Fantastic shots guys.

Do you get a slight bleed through on the AB?

[UKMIL]

i think I may be busy over the weekend, with some more skins for this
:salute:

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[ZsoltB]

Great! :ernae:

Unfortunately I can not see the images of smoke effect!
This bird smoked like a steam engine...

[IanHenry]

Mine finely arrived in the post this morning, can't wait to try her. I think I'll try some air to air refueling using the MILVIZ tanker. I read in a book that the Lightning was great at refueling due to it's engine layout, the pilot could position the aircraft by adjusting just one throttle, I'll have to give that a try.<o:p></o:p>
Looking forward to the re paints!<o:p></o:p>
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Regards,<o:p></o:p>
Ian.

[UKMIL]

my first has to be my spiritual home, the firebirds

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[DagR]

How does it fly? Good flight model ?


Best
DagR

[dvj]

A couple of notes:

No smoke! Smoke in the config file seems tied to the guns. I would expect this era of jet to be a real smoker
nav lights too bright as you can see in the screenies
it's fast. you can get to 60,000 feet very quickly.
starts to wobble below 180 knots. controls highly sensitive at slower speeds. Keep it flat on landing approach.
Sound set is great. TSS did a nice job here.

more to come as I dig into the manual.

[PLUTO16]

It looks good,but how are the flight dynamics compared with the flight manual? How is the frame rate impact?
Anyway,is one of my favourites iron birds..Nice looking job.

[fallenphoenix1986]

Why do bird like this always seem to get released when I'm up to my neck with work... not fair, wont have a chance to inspect her for about 3 weeks :icon_eek:

Craig

[hschuit]

It looks good,but how are the flight dynamics compared with the flight manual? How is the frame rate impact?
Anyway,is one of my favourites iron birds..Nice looking job.

Framerates are very good (even with the radar active), have made 1 short flight sofar: Take off rotation was smooth and at advertized speed, landing speed is as noted in the reference (150 -160KTS) but I have read RW pilot reports saying they always kept final approach speed at least 175 kts.

[AndyE1976]

Framerates are excellent. Flys great though and looks really good. Nice and easy to take off and land. Need to work on my zoom climbs though as I was maxing out at about 58k yesterday - perhaps a bit too much fuel on board.

Anyone else seeing the left aileron not moving when the stick is moved left or all the control surfaces down and immobile from the cockpit? I reported to JF support and was told to check calibration!

[dvj]

A couple of notes:

No smoke! Smoke in the config file seems tied to the guns. I would expect this era of jet to be a real smoker
nav lights too bright as you can see in the screenies
it's fast. you can get to 60,000 feet very quickly.
starts to wobble below 180 knots. controls highly sensitive at slower speeds. Keep it flat on landing approach.
Sound set is great. TSS did a nice job here.

more to come as I dig into the manual.

I went out and looking at a lot of EEL web video. Very little smoke if any visible, so this is more accurate than I originally thought.

[IanHenry]

Why do bird like this always seem to get released when I'm up to my neck with work... not fair, wont have a chance to inspect her for about 3 weeks :icon_eek:

Craig

Craig, it's a conspiracy !!!

Regards,
Ian.

[UKMIL]

2 new skins

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[svicar]

Anyone else seeing the left aileron not moving when the stick is moved left or all the control surfaces down and immobile from the cockpit? I reported to JF support and was told to check calibration!

For me it's the right aileron that only slightly moves. Roll rate is unaffected in either direction so I'm assuming it's not a calibration issue.

[William Njurmi]

Do I remember wrong, but was there somebody doing a freeware model at present as well?

[dvj]

Framerates are excellent. Flys great though and looks really good. Nice and easy to take off and land. Need to work on my zoom climbs though as I was maxing out at about 58k yesterday - perhaps a bit too much fuel on board.

Anyone else seeing the left aileron not moving when the stick is moved left or all the control surfaces down and immobile from the cockpit? I reported to JF support and was told to check calibration!


confirmed, not moving.

Also, landing lights show through wings with wheels up
Actuator bar punches through the air brake in operation.

[hschuit]

For me it's the right aileron that only slightly moves. Roll rate is unaffected in either direction so I'm assuming it's not a calibration issue.

Right aileron moves slightly up/down, left one only goes down and then seems to be slightly detached from the pivot if you zoom in close. IMHO it is a model/animation issue because my Saitek X52 pro is properly calibrated and the plane responds correctly to joystick input along all axis.

[UKMIL]

Do I remember wrong, but was there somebody doing a freeware model at present as well?

it is in my hanger at present being built, but some months off

[RAS_JF]

Hi all,
Report any problems you encounter to support@justflight.com and we will start investigating ahead of a future service pack.

Thanks

[svicar]

Hi all,
Report any problems you encounter to support@justflight.com and we will start investigating ahead of a future service pack.

Thanks
Already done. Just wanted to point out though, it's really a beautiful release and handles like a dream. I'm totally pleased with my purchase:applause:

[hschuit]

Hi all,
Report any problems you encounter to support@justflight.com and we will start investigating ahead of a future service pack.

Thanks

Done, if you need a beta tester for the service pack/hotfix, just send me a PM. Same as svicar, I am very happy with this EE Lightning, I do hope you can fix the few minor glitches we found.

cheers, Henk

[MikeH]

This is a superb aircraft and i'm absolutely loving flying it. Thank you Just Flight. :jump:

Anyone know if the missiles are removable and whether I should be getting vortices from the wingtips in any stages of flight as I don't see any?

Right, enough of this banter - i've got some circuits & bumps to practise.

Regards

Mike

[UKMIL]

another skin

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[ZsoltB]

Great paint!
:ernae:

[Roger]

I have to get this, but only when I get the new pc: any high speed action will slow my present pc to a crawl!

[Peacemaker]

I am really loving this too! Had it up to fl800 last nite with a 2 part climb Deck-fl100 mach 2.0- climb to fl800. I will have to try using the proper climb procedure for the lightning. A few little issues I hope will be fixed, mainly those mentioned already. Im not so sure on the handling. I thought the alphasim model flew closer to the book. Turn performance is better than what the real world aircraft seemed to exhibit. But thats just speculation based on my own observations, so the model may be correct and it may just be that I dont know what I am talking about lol. Fingers crossed for F.1/F.2/F.3/T.4/T.5 expansion packs!!! Thankyou justflight!

[Bone]

The model and textures are very very nice, and although this model flys well and pleasantly enough, I'm pretty sure it doesn't replicate the real deal when it comes to the FDE. At a range of airspeeds from 200 kts to 400 kts, I've cranked it over into a 90 degree bank and pulled full aft stick, and it remains under control without any buffet or wing rock, and has a very unrealistic speed bleed-off per the G-load. Stalling this model is about on par with stalling a C-152...it's just too docile. There are a few other flight regimes where it's clear to me that the FDE is a miss, also. To make it simple, this model won't bite you in the butt where a real swept wing jet would normally bite you in the butt.


I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just pointing it out. The model is still well worth having in spite of the FDE, and I'm glad to have it.

[PRB]

This is such an interesting plane. How in the world did they replace the "on top" engine? Bet that was fun...

[jetstreamsky]

Just reading on the history of the various marks and it mentioned side doors for the top engine and a ventral door for the bottom engine.

[Barnes]

Thanks for all the screen shots - you guys convinced me to get it especially with the VC images. Im on patrol here over wales

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[dvj]

The model and textures are very very nice, and although this model flys well and pleasantly enough, I'm pretty sure it doesn't replicate the real deal when it comes to the FDE. At a range of airspeeds from 200 kts to 400 kts, I've cranked it over into a 90 degree bank and pulled full aft stick, and it remains under control without any buffet or wing rock, and has a very unrealistic speed bleed-off per the G-load. Stalling this model is about on par with stalling a C-152...it's just too docile. There are a few other flight regimes where it's clear to me that the FDE is a miss, also. To make it simple, this model won't bite you in the butt where a real swept wing jet would normally bite you in the butt.


I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just pointing it out. The model is still well worth having in spite of the FDE, and I'm glad to have it.

Maybe you can provide them with some FDE recommendations for SP1?

[WhiskeyEcho]

He hasn't flown one so how can he.

[Bone]

He hasn't flown one so how can he.

Very true, I haven't flown one, and can't possibly tell you how the real one flys. But, the Lightning is a swept wing jet and should, at a minimum, have certain swept wing jet qualities. As I said before, the model does fly well and pleasantly enough, it just won't bite you in the butt like a swept wing jet will. Fighters are typically known to bite you in the butt even harder.

[Barfly]

Hopefully A2A will have some of those 'fast jet' quality Accufeel options in the future...

[jetstreamsky]

Some flight qualities are discussed on Wikipedia, especially in relation to speed and climb, but also about nice handling characteristics (but of course this is all relative and from what source this comes from is hard to say). There are also some descriptions related to very high altitude interceptions of U2s on exercise. The only authoritive source I can identify is from a book Called "Lightning from the cockpit" by Peter Caygill http://www.amazon.com/Lightning-From-The-Cockpit-Aviation/dp/1844150828 which includes 16 personal accounts of what it's like fly.

[jetstreamsky]

Article at the Lightning Association website

http://www.lightning.org.uk/dec04sotm.html


and this one on Lightning compared to F-15 is interesting
http://www.lightning.org.uk/jul03sotm.html


USAF exchange Pilot experience
http://www.lightning.org.uk/julaug05sotm.html

[JIMJAM]

More vc shots please.

[Mark W]

Has anyone experienced a CTD after adjusting the radar display within the VC, using the VC radar selector?

If I adjust the radar via the 2D pop-up, I have no issues. Thus, it is not a big problem (for me anyway), but worth mentioning. I will raise it with Just Flight...

One of my colleagues is a former Lightning pilot (in fact, I'm sure he was the last exchange pilot to fly the airplane and had the "honour" of being the last pilot to eject out of one).

I'm not sure whether he is a Flight Simmer or if he would come on here to give a bit of a brief, but I'll ask him next time I see him.

Mark

[Bone]

Article at the Lightning Association website

http://www.lightning.org.uk/dec04sotm.html


and this one on Lightning compared to F-15 is interesting
http://www.lightning.org.uk/jul03sotm.html


USAF exchange Pilot experience
http://www.lightning.org.uk/julaug05sotm.html


"All in all, the Lightning was safe, fast and easy to fly"

These are nice anecdotal articles, Jetstreamsky, thanks. I enjoyed reading them. However, pilot reports of how it was easy to fly don't really excuse an airfoil from behaving in it's inherent manner. The Lightning may well be a rock solid platform when well inside the envelope, but it still has an airfoil that's going to behave a certain way when G-loaded, and/or experiencing a separation of airflow. For instance, a swept wing plane when stalled has airflow separation that starts at the wingtips, and travels inward to the wing root as the stall progresses. Unlike straight wing planes, which have the separation of airflow starting at the wing root, and separation travels outward to the wing tips as the stall progresses. Swept wing jets lose aileron effectiveness from the begining of the stall and are basicly useless before the stall is full on, where the straight wing planes keep aileron effectiveness until the stall has progressed to full. Most straight wing planes keep some aspect of aileron effectiveness while in the fully stalled condition, whereas there is none with the swept wing.

The JustFlight Lightning retains a hefty amount of aileron authority when stalling. If you do a clean stall and enter it smoothly, with the power at Idle, applying more and more back pressure on the stick to maintain altitude as you slow, you will eventually get to almost zero airspeed. There is virtually no buffet, and just a slight left and right wing drop, which you can counter with aileron control...and the aileron control is quite effective, which it shouldn't be. The result is that you are level and travelling straight flat down like an elevator. That's not how swept wing jets stall. This model stalls in a way that makes a straight wing Piper look like a man eater.

[jetstreamsky]

Hi Bone, I completely agree, I'm not sure the FSX model behaves in any realistic way, in fact I think from my own modelling attempts I remember the basic flight modelling revolves around a straight wing, which covers the majority of aircraft out there, severely swept or delta wings are at best approximated. Thinking about other aircraft with large sweeps they tend to have tailerons when not deltas (Tornado, Tomcat, F111, Mig-23, Mirage G) and deltas use flaperons, so the Lightning is fairly unique with ailerons at the end of the pseudo delta wings (the only other vehicle I can think of is the fictional Thunderbird One which has exactly the same plan form :icon_lol:).

[Bone]

Bernt Stolle has managed to get FDE jet characteristics pretty close to the bulls eye, but he puts alot of time into it. Probably more than what your average FDE maker would do. But then, he's a B-767 Captain for an International airline. Guys like that don't cut corners, lol.

[strykerpsg]

Article at the Lightning Association website

http://www.lightning.org.uk/dec04sotm.html


and this one on Lightning compared to F-15 is interesting
http://www.lightning.org.uk/jul03sotm.html


USAF exchange Pilot experience
http://www.lightning.org.uk/julaug05sotm.html

Great reads, though a bit suspect on actual comparisons of the Eagle to the Lightning article. I would think 30 years would have a significant difference on the outcome in performance and certainly avionics, as is pointed out. But great finds. I saved the link for future reading, thanks for the find.

[jetstreamsky]

Great reads, though a bit suspect on actual comparisons of the Eagle to the Lightning article. I would think 30 years would have a significant difference on the outcome in performance and certainly avionics, as is pointed out. But great finds. I saved the link for future reading, thanks for the find.

Having seen both aircraft perform on several occasions, I have no doubt about the flight capabilities of the Lightning, an aircraft not easily bested in performance terms which is why it had such a long career even for an early jet type. It's climb and speed performance are legendary, but that's the entire point of it, an interceptor launched from the relatively small island of Great Britain to reach approaching nucleur bombers as far out as possible as soon as possible once the threat is determined. The Eagle has a different role, it has to turn with the best of them, track and shoot multiple targets and deny enemy flight over the battle space, it does this with performance capabilities tied with avionics many generations beyond the Lightning which was stymied by lack of development money, as it was always going to be replaced by missiles. I've seen this beast climb into a blue azure sky so fast and so high it could no longer be seen. I've seen Eagles, Typhoons, Mirages all put on impressive climbs, but the Lightning is the one that really impressed.

[jetstreamsky]

This is a great story too, one scary ride http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/survivor.php?id=30

[dvj]

Well I tell ya guys, I'm having fun with this payware. It's the fastest jet to max altitude I've seen in FSX.

[Bone]

Yeah, it's a cool plane IRL, and a really nice model. It doesn't really matter if the low/high speed stall characteristics are sketchy. It's all fun.

[strykerpsg]

This is a great story too, one scary ride http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/survivor.php?id=30

I've read that story before, here perhaps, but certainly a great story nonetheless.

Anyway, really torn between this purchase and the DCS P-51........had to allot monies for oldest son's graduation. One down, one more to go next year, then will have ultimate man cave and toys.

Thanks again for finding and sharing some hostory greats like you found and I can never thank the developers of all these fantastic models too.

[Barnes]

Just started this repaint. Lots of minor things to tweak and add the shine.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1361.jpg

[centuryseries]

Just started this repaint. Lots of minor things to tweak and add the shine.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-1361.jpg

Love the repaint! How do you get the ground equipment and ladder to appear? Also does the aircraft come with a drag chute? Over wing tanks? I must read the manual!

[Barnes]

Yes - the manual is worth a glance through to find the tanks switch (cant recal where) and external power switch (on right consol near the security switch to get the chocks etc)

[peter12213]

Really good fun! Loving the repaints too!

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Pete.

[Barnes]

Hi Peter - that first screen is fab :salute:

[Barnes]

Please download this repaint here ......
https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/a8tvvZYGEeGKVhICOBtLIg/Just%20Flight%20EE%20Lightning%20F6%20Repaint%20xs 897.zip
(I am trying to upload into the warbirds library but sometimes it works - sometimes not.)

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-989.jpg

[IanHenry]

Thanks Barnes,
looking forward to flying that one.

Regards,
Ian.

[centuryseries]

Has anyone heard if there is an update for the Lightning yet? I'm hoping to see the airbrake actuator and flaperon (or whatever it's called) animations being fixed. Plus a bonus would be a more pleasing flight model with correct down low handling - ie not being able to go a gazillion miles per hour at sea level where most real planes would disintegrate or melt?

[hschuit]

Has anyone heard if there is an update for the Lightning yet? I'm hoping to see the airbrake actuator and flaperon (or whatever it's called) animations being fixed. Plus a bonus would be a more pleasing flight model with correct down low handling - ie not being able to go a gazillion miles per hour at sea level where most real planes would disintegrate or melt?

Not yet, I have posted the following issues (including screenshots):

(1) Right aileron moves only slightly up/down, left one only goes fully down and then seems to be slightly detached from the pivot if you zoom in close. IMHO it is a model/animation issue because my Saitek X52 pro is properly calibrated and the plane responds correctly to joystick input long all axis.
(2) Airbrake actuator bar punches through the air brake during operation.
(3) Afterburner effect bleeds through fuselage / strange cut off blue/orange inside burner can.
</SPAN>(4) Main gear landing lights shine through wing/gear doors at certain angles when gear retracted.
</SPAN>
On April 30, I got a thank you from Martyn Northall, have not heard anything since. </SPAN>In the meantime I did fix the afterburner myself and I also fixed the engine thrust tables/scalar (using what I did for the Alphasim Lightning portovers last year).

cheers, Henk

[Martyn]

We are currently working on the service pack for the Lightning. It should be ready for release in the next fortnight.

After the release of a product we normally wait at least two weeks before beginning work on any updates, to ensure that all of the issues have been reported - so we don't have to go back and work on a second service pack in the same month.

[Ian Warren]

Hav'nt really had a chance to play with this release ... it is FUN in short time i had , sure will change shortly then time to remove the winkles from my face with a few 'Gs' :eek:.... Oooh anda lotta high speed :wiggle:

[centuryseries]

We are currently working on the service pack for the Lightning. It should be ready for release in the next fortnight.

After the release of a product we normally wait at least two weeks before beginning work on any updates, to ensure that all of the issues have been reported - so we don't have to go back and work on a second service pack in the same month.

Thank you for the update on the update :salute:

When the Service Pack is released, how do I go about downloading it? Do I re-download the entire package? (Which is great by the way - you got to love how fast the Lightning looks even when it's not moving!)

[svicar]

Thought you might like this one, Barnes. It's a great paint job, nice work.

[Martyn]

FYI we will shortly be releasing a service pack to address the issues that have been reported and to improve the accuracy and functionality of the aircraft:

- Port airbrake actuator no longer protrudes through airbrake
- Reheat effects are no longer activated with the engines off
- Reheat effects are now linked individually to each of the throttle levers
- Right aileron now has full movement
- Various improvements to the FDE
- Additional autopilot controls added for ease of use
- Brake parachute handle added
- Heading and course select knobs added
- Flaps and ailerons are now visible from the virtual cockpit
- Master ignition switch is now clickable
- Reheats now activate when throttles are advanced above 95%, as per the real aircraft
- Redtop missiles have been reshaped to more closely match the real missile
- Issue fixed which caused gear to be visible through top of the wing when retracted
- G-meter now reads 1G when aircraft is stationary
- Fuel gauges reduced in size and layout changed to more closely match the real aircraft
- HSI lights altered to more closely match the real aircraft
- Windscreen mounted direction indicator has been moved down windscreen pillar to more closely match the real aircraft
- Texture issue on windscreen frame has been fixed
- Issue with speed-tape protruding from panel has been fixed

Thank you to everyone who provided feedback.

[hschuit]

Thank you Martyn! That is what I call good news.

cheers, Henk.

[dvj]

FYI we will shortly be releasing a service pack to address the issues that have been reported and to improve the accuracy and functionality of the aircraft:

- Port airbrake actuator no longer protrudes through airbrake
- Reheat effects are no longer activated with the engines off
- Reheat effects are now linked individually to each of the throttle levers
- Right aileron now has full movement
- Various improvements to the FDE
- Additional autopilot controls added for ease of use
- Brake parachute handle added
- Heading and course select knobs added
- Flaps and ailerons are now visible from the virtual cockpit
- Master ignition switch is now clickable
- Reheats now activate when throttles are advanced above 95%, as per the real aircraft
- Redtop missiles have been reshaped to more closely match the real missile
- Issue fixed which caused gear to be visible through top of the wing when retracted
- G-meter now reads 1G when aircraft is stationary
- Fuel gauges reduced in size and layout changed to more closely match the real aircraft
- HSI lights altered to more closely match the real aircraft
- Windscreen mounted direction indicator has been moved down windscreen pillar to more closely match the real aircraft
- Texture issue on windscreen frame has been fixed
- Issue with speed-tape protruding from panel has been fixed

Thank you to everyone who provided feedback.

Awsome. I just took a spin in REX Essentials with the EE and still impressed with the look of this model.

[spatialpro]

I'm looking forward to the Service Pack for this.

Another issue I've noted is the afterburner effect doesn't work (doesn't show) in DX10. I find this unusual, as other aircraft (e.g. the default F-18) have afterburner effects which show in box DX9 and DX10. Does anyone know why? Does anyone have a fix, or can tell me how to fix it? I've contacted JF via the official channels and have been told it cannot be fixed.

Many thanks

Andy

[Chris Keane]

The update has been released;
http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/english-electric-lightning-f6#Update1

[IanHenry]

Thanks for the Head up Chris.

Regards,
Ian.

[dvj]

Downloading now!

[Bone]

I did the update and then flew it, but didn't see any smoke trails. I can't remember if the pre-update model smoked or not. Can someone confirm that the pre-update smoked or not? I would think the real Lightning was a smoker, but don't really know for sure.

[JAllen]

Watched Lightnings come and go from RAF Bentwaters in the mid 70's and smoking engines don't stand out in my memory. Our F-4C's and D's smoked a lot more than EE Lightnings. A run-up on launch was a black cloud!
Lightnings and Vulcans were so fascinating when they visited. I have the Iris Vulcan and might as well get the JF Lightning now. Just for the memories.
Funny, in 4 years at Bentwaters never got a picture of a Vulcan flyover. It was a mystery ship all of us wanted to capture on film but never could. Then transferred to Barksdale AFB and the flightline was full of them. They were there for a bombing competition. -Jim

[hschuit]

I did the update and then flew it, but didn't see any smoke trails. I can't remember if the pre-update model smoked or not. Can someone confirm that the pre-update smoked or not? I would think the real Lightning was a smoker, but don't really know for sure.

The pre SP1 and SP1 do not have smoke. It is not too difficult to add it, I "transplanted" the smoke effect from the FS9 Alphasim Lightning.

[Bone]

Funny, in 4 years at Bentwaters never got a picture of a Vulcan flyover. It was a mystery ship all of us wanted to capture on film but never could. Then transferred to Barksdale AFB and the flightline was full of them. They were there for a bombing competition. -Jim

During the mid 1970's my dad was based at Offut AFB. At that time there was a small squadron of Vulcan's based out of Offut, and I saw them fly all of the time. I thought it was normal to see Vulcans flying around, lol. About three houses down from us was a family of Brits, and the dad was one of the Vulcan pilots. I was so used to seeing my dad and the other AF guys in their flight suits, that whenever I saw the Vulcan pilot come home and get out of his car, I always thought to myself "man, those RAF guys have some funny looking flight suits". I was just a kid, silly me.








The pre SP1 and SP1 do not have smoke. It is not too difficult to add it, I "transplanted" the smoke effect from the FS9 Alphasim Lightning.


OK, thanks.

[jetstreamsky]

Smoking engines is not a 'feature' of the Lightning, I can't remember ever seeing any smoke, but if you look at this video at about 2.20 onwards you can see light smoke on some of the take offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxyg5GQk8H8


Another effect to add

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx28jWfr80w&t=4m20s

[IanHenry]

I seem to be having a problem with the afterburners. Previously both afterburner effects showed even if one engine was throttled back, now only one engine has afterburners. I think it was better before adding the service pack!

Ian.

[JAllen]

Hey Bone, the RAF guys I met at Barksdale were amazed by the cockpit in the B-52G. Amazed at the size of it!! That Vulcan is tiny inside.

I would think an interceptor would be less effective if it left an F-4C type smoke trail for all to see. The video measures up to my impressions after all these 30+ years. Guess I still have my mind! -Jim

[Bone]

Hey Bone, the RAF guys I met at Barksdale were amazed by the cockpit in the B-52G. Amazed at the size of it!! That Vulcan is tiny inside.

I did get to go in for a look at the Vulcan interior, back then. It's kind of a strange place as compared to other planes. The actual flight deck is pretty small. It's the top deck and you have to climb up a ladder to get to it. The other three seats (At least I remember three seats) were on the lower deck, and the lower deck seemed a bit cavernous because of the vaulted ceiling that went up all the way to the top. You could see the back sides of the cockpit seats from the lower deck. You wouldn't want to trip while climbing out of the cockpit seats, the fall to the lower deck would be painfull. There wasn't any safety railing, as I recall.

[Martyn]

I seem to be having a problem with the afterburners. Previously both afterburner effects showed even if one engine was throttled back, now only one engine has afterburners. I think it was better before adding the service pack!

Ian.


This isn't a known issue. On our various test PCs the reheat/afterburner effects are correctly linked to each engine e.g. throttling up only engine 1 will result in the reheat effect for engine 1 appearing, throttling up only engine 2 will result in the reheat effect for engine 2 appearing, throttling up both engines will result in the reheat effects for both engines appearing.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

[IanHenry]

This isn't a known issue. On our various test PCs the reheat/afterburner effects are correctly linked to each engine e.g. throttling up only engine 1 will result in the reheat effect for engine 1 appearing, throttling up only engine 2 will result in the reheat effect for engine 2 appearing, throttling up both engines will result in the reheat effects for both engines appearing.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

Sorry Martyn, my fault, I needed to re-calibrate my throttles, one was not opening fully, hence no reheat! Problem sorted now.

Regards,
Ian.

[Martyn]

Phew! Thanks for letting me know Ian.

[DagR]

I am thinking about buying this aircraft. Is the SP1 incorporated into the main package now ?


Best
DagR

[Martyn]

I am thinking about buying this aircraft. Is the SP1 incorporated into the main package now ?


Best
DagR

Yes it is, and the demo is also up to SP1 standard now.

[DagR]

Just bought the aircraft, great work :-)
One little snag, at least on my system; my throttle no 1 controls the upper engine nozzle animation but applies the reheat to the lower, likewise my no 2 throttle controls lower engine nozzle animation and applies reheat to the upper engine. Any ideas how I can fix this?

Edit: Did this:
light.0= 9, -29.8, 0.0, 2.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng2 reheat
light.1= 8, -29.8, 0.0, -0.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng1 reheat
(switched positions of the AB effect)


Best Dag

[centuryseries]

Thanks for the update, however I still seem to be getting an odd airbrake actuator animation on the left side when looking forwards from the rear of the aircraft. The actuator moves up and down when opening/closing.

[MikeH]

Love the Lightning but have a bit of a glitch. A roundel and upper wing walkway lines appear on the inside of the left hand undercarriage door. Noticed it also on the Lightning that features in the Virtual EE Lightning solo display on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G01No5oMIaU so I know that's it's not just my Lightning that's affected. JustFlight tech support were very quick in replying to my question on how I get rid of the fault but could offer no solution. Can anyone help?


Also would like to know how I can add vortices to the wing tips as per the Alphasim Hunter. Have seen the effect on real Lightnings & would like it on my virtual one.

There's a wealth of knowledge on this forum so I'm hoping that someone can help.

Many thanks,

Mike

[Alicatt]

Just got the Lightning F.6 from JustFlight
Had to re install everything from scratch to get it to work, but work it does :D
Still working through the manual to see how everything works 50k feet and 2M is no problem

[DaveQ]

Love the Lightning but have a bit of a glitch. A roundel and upper wing walkway lines appear on the inside of the left hand undercarriage door. Noticed it also on the Lightning that features in the Virtual EE Lightning solo display on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G01No5oMIaU so I know that's it's not just my Lightning that's affected. JustFlight tech support were very quick in replying to my question on how I get rid of the fault but could offer no solution. Can anyone help?

Mike

I bought this awesome beast a couple of weeks ago but I'm not struck on the camouflage colours they've used so I've done one of my own. This is a WIP of XR771 in No. 11 Squadron colours, now residing at the Midlands Air Museum in Coventry. It's taken a while and still bits I want to do. BTW the inner main u/c door can't be fixed Mike, the texture is mapped to part of the upper wing.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/DaveQ-photos/Lightning2.jpg


http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/DaveQ-photos/Lightning1.jpg

I thought I'd install Rob Barendregt's Me262 cannon effect as well, just for fun! Rate of fire's a bit slow on screen shooting though!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq136/DaveQ-photos/Lightning3.jpg

DaveQ

[hschuit]

Dave, I like the WIP already, hope you will upload it some day soon :applause::applause::applause: It is amazing what your repaints can do for a plane, your F-100, F-101 and F-105 liveries are some of my favorites!

cheers, Henk.

[Cirrus N210MS]

This is a Great airplane i Just cant stop flying it Keep up the great work justflight

[DaveQ]

Dave, I like the WIP already, hope you will upload it some day soon :applause::applause::applause: It is amazing what your repaints can do for a plane, your F-100, F-101 and F-105 liveries are some of my favorites!

cheers, Henk.

Thanks Henk - we aim to please as they say!!

DaveQ

[shotgunshack]

Does anyone know how to apply A2A 3D lights to the JF Lightning. The lights section in the VC cfg looks very strange.

[hschuit]

Does anyone know how to apply A2A 3D lights to the JF Lightning. The lights section in the VC cfg looks very strange.

I only added Shockwave landing lights (Nav/Strobe lights FX file names are hardcoded in the MDL file) :

aircraft.cfg:
[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing, 6=taxi, 7=recognition, 8=wing, 9=Logo
light.0= 9, -29.8, 0.0, -0.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng1 reheat
light.1= 8, -29.8, 0.0, 2.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng2 reheat
light.2 = 5, -6.2,-6.45, -1.80, fx_shockwave_landing_light_small_old
light.3 = 5, -6.2, 6.45, -1.80, fx_shockwave_landing_light_small_old


panel.cfg:

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$VC_ND1
gauge00=XML!ILS, 65,50,901,901
gauge01=jwb_xml_server!wep, 0,0,1,1
gauge02=Shockwave_Lights!SW Lights_gear, 0,0,20,20

[shotgunshack]

HSCHUIT,Many thanks

[dhazelgrove]

There's a service pack available up on the Just Flight website, together with a replacement FDE - NOT for those with a nervous disposition. :icon30:

The only problems I have with this are:

The strip ASI doesn't work right. No display of the aircraft speed in knots, nor a knots/mach comparison.
There's no offset TACAN in the TAC display.
Heading Hold in the VC seems permanently set to North. You have to go into the 2D panel if you want a different heading.

I've asked Just Flight's technical support 'boffins' to take a look at these.

Dave

[dhazelgrove]

Dave, I like the WIP already, hope you will upload it some day soon :applause::applause::applause: It is amazing what your repaints can do for a plane, your F-100, F-101 and F-105 liveries are some of my favorites!

cheers, Henk.


Any news on this skin?

Dave

[DaveQ]

Any news on this skin?

Dave

Truth to tell, as a painter, there are a few insurmountable challenges with the texture mapping and bump maps on this aircraft. I don't like making derogatory remarks about other people's work so I won't elaborate, but I'm sure everyone involved with it did their very best. For this reason I felt that whatever I did was never going to create a skin that was clean and accurate, and so, with some regret I abandonned it.

Best regards

DaveQ

[ZsoltB]

I only added Shockwave landing lights (Nav/Strobe lights FX file names are hardcoded in the MDL file) :

aircraft.cfg:
[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing, 6=taxi, 7=recognition, 8=wing, 9=Logo
light.0= 9, -29.8, 0.0, -0.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng1 reheat
light.1= 8, -29.8, 0.0, 2.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng2 reheat
light.2 = 5, -6.2,-6.45, -1.80, fx_shockwave_landing_light_small_old
light.3 = 5, -6.2, 6.45, -1.80, fx_shockwave_landing_light_small_old


panel.cfg:

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$VC_ND1
gauge00=XML!ILS, 65,50,901,901
gauge01=jwb_xml_server!wep, 0,0,1,1
gauge02=Shockwave_Lights!SW Lights_gear, 0,0,20,20


Unfortunately, no good solution to the Shockwave_Lights.cab, all light is blocked

Any idea?

[ZsoltB]

http://i.imgur.com/jlPmUJt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o0xXXoe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BC6qlWq.jpg