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EasyEd
March 25th, 2012, 18:27
Hey All,

Fontana - talk about a mixed bag. Overall pretty boring. Stewart wins in a rain shortened - first ever at Fontana - race continuing his hot streak. The question is - will he be there at the end?

My Guys...

Jimmie blew an oil line or some such on the last caution and so Thank God for the rain or he would have finished way worse! Two breaks in one week - NASCAR giving his points, crew chief and car chief back and then the rain! Maybe this year will be the year of the sixpack!

The Harv is second in the points and consistent.

The Kes 16th and not a real great day although he had a good car.

The results...



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FIN (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
ST (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
CAR (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
DRIVER (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
MAKE (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
SPONSOR
PTS/BNS (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
LAPS (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/5/data/results_unofficial.html#cnnsort)
STATUS


1
9
14
Tony Stewart (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/tstewart00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Office Depot / Mobil 1
47/1
129
Running


2
2
18
Kyle Busch (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kbusch01/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Interstate Batteries
44/2
129
Running


3
14
88
Dale Earnhardt Jr. (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dearnhar01/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Diet Mountain Dew / National Guard
41/0
129
Running


4
7
29
Kevin Harvick (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kharvick00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches
40/0
129
Running


5
12
99
Carl Edwards (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/cedwards00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Subway
39/0
129
Running


6
4
16
Greg Biffle (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/gbiffle00/cup/index.html)
Ford
3M
38/0
129
Running


7
6
39
Ryan Newman (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/rnewman00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
U.S. Army
37/0
129
Running


8
13
56
Martin Truex Jr. (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mtruex01/cup/index.html)
Toyota
NAPA Auto Parts
36/0
129
Running


9
23
51
Kurt Busch (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kbusch00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Phoenix Construction Services
35/0
129
Running


10
10
48
Jimmie Johnson (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jjohnson00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Lowe's / Jimmie Johnson Foundation
35/1
129
Running


11
1
11
Denny Hamlin (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dhamlin00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
FedEx Express
34/1
129
Running


12
3
55
Mark Martin (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mmartin00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Aaron's Dream Machine
32/0
129
Running


13
15
17
Matt Kenseth (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mkenseth00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Ford EcoBoost
31/0
129
Running


14
11
15
Clint Bowyer (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/cbowyer00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
5-hour Energy
30/0
129
Running


15
5
5
Kasey Kahne (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kkahne00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Quaker State
29/0
129
Running


16
25
22
AJ Allmendinger (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/aallmend00/cup/index.html)
Dodge
Southern California AAA
28/0
129
Running


17
24
42
Juan Montoya (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jmontoya00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Target
27/0
129
Running


18
17
2
Brad Keselowski (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/bkeselow00/cup/index.html)
Dodge
Miller Lite
26/0
129
Running


19
27
27
Paul Menard (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/pmenard00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
CertainTeed / Menards
25/0
129
Running


20
22
78
Regan Smith (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/rsmith02/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Furniture Row / Farm American
24/0
129
Running


21
29
9
Marcos Ambrose (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mambrose00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Dewalt
23/0
129
Running


22
19
31
Jeff Burton (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jburton00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Caterpillar
22/0
129
Running


23
33
13
Casey Mears (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/cmears01/cup/index.html)
Ford
GEICO
21/0
129
Running


24
8
20
Joey Logano (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jlogano00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Dollar General
20/0
129
Running


25
28
43
Aric Almirola (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/aalmirol00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Medallion Financial
19/0
129
Running


26
21
24
Jeff Gordon (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jgordon00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Drive to End Hunger
19/1
129
Running


27
18
10
David Reutimann (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dreutima00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Accell Construction
17/0
127
Running


28
26
47
Bobby Labonte (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/blabonte00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Charter
16/0
127
Running


29
40
93
Travis Kvapil (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/tkvapil00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Burger King / Dr Pepper
15/0
127
Running


30
41
38
David Gilliland (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dgillila00/cup/index.html)
Ford
1-800LoanMart
14/0
127
Running


31
38
34
David Ragan (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dragan00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Front Row Motorsports
13/0
127
Running


32
16
1
Jamie McMurray (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jmcmurra00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Bass Pro Shops / Allstate
12/0
126
Running


33
34
36
Dave Blaney (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dblaney00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Tommy Baldwin Racing
11/0
126
Running


34
42
32
Ken Schrader (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kschrade00/cup/index.html)
Ford
U.S. Chrome / 1 Less Than 2 Ltd.
10/0
125
Running


35
36
249
J.J. Yeley (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jyeley00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
America Israel Racing
9/0
125
Running


36
31
83
Landon Cassill (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/lcassill00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Burger King / Dr Pepper
8/0
124
Running


37
30
26
Josh Wise * (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jwise00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Morristown Driver's Service
7/0
52
Vibration


38
32
98
Michael McDowell (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mmcdowel00/cup/index.html)
Ford
Curb Records
6/0
41
Vibration


39
20
30
David Stremme (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dstremme00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
@TheNASCARFans
5/0
37
Rear Gear


40
39
119
Mike Bliss (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mbliss00/cup/index.html)
Toyota
Humphrey Smith Racing
0
19
Transmission


41
35
23
Scott Riggs (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/sriggs00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
North Texas Pipe
3/0
18
Vibration


42
43
74
Reed Sorenson (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/rsorenso00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
Turn One Racing
0
7
Vibration


43
37
33
Brendan Gaughan (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/bgaughan00/cup/index.html)
Chevrolet
South Point Hotel & Casino
1/0
2
Engine

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-Ed-

wombat666
March 25th, 2012, 20:29
I watched qualifying on SPEED.
The surface looked horribly uneven, cars bouncing around like a WRC stage.
:kilroy:

Cazzie
March 27th, 2012, 09:55
Always boring, if it doesn't rain, it's a fuel mileage race. No action, stupid Bruton Smith cookie-cutter track. Didn't even bother to watch even though the JGR cars always do well there. My track this weekend, but like Bristol, NASCAR has ruined it by repaving and making it a two-groove track. Ergo the drivers can race for position and don't have to mix it up trying to get that one good groove. Ticket prices are out of site too. May opt for the "real" stock series race, the Truck race on Saturday, pay $20.00 and sit where ever I like. Don't have to get my ticket until race day either.

NASCAR has to get the word, no old style redneck like me is going to pay exorbitant prices for a two-groove short-track race, look at Bristol, half empty. It's not the fuel prices NASCAR, it's the high ticket prices and boring racing that is emptying your stands of fans.

I plan on going to the Richmond Nationwide race Friday evening, April 27. $35.00, no crowd, and sit anywhere. Cup race Saturday night, I'll be back in Ringgold watching on TV.

Caz

Daveroo
March 27th, 2012, 14:20
cassie,i thought it was kind of amusing that on the sunday morning show...with "imma race car driver" kenny wallace and crew,when they started talking about bristol,they all said it was about fans not wanting to pay gas prices and hotel/motel prices...yet when you looked at the fan sites when smith announced he was thinking of reverting back to "pre- 2007" conditions..the fans were for it...did nascar "get to them"?,the guys on the show made a big deal about "Jr" saying he was against it and then said they would tell us why after the break...then came back and said..jr says no to changing the track "just because"...and then they talked about changing the tires and the only guy there with enough backbone to speak out on tv...kyle petty...said BS they tried tires and other things already...they ruined the track when they changed it...and they need to put it back...then they just went to Mcrenyonlds and wallace....stayed off petty until they changed the subject...i also liked when petty spoke out against the "old men" who run the penalties appeals boards...he said they were all old men who have been away from the sport for many years and need to be removed..put new guys in who understand the sport today....he got shut up over that too...

Thoe6969
March 27th, 2012, 16:22
cassie,i thought it was kind of amusing that on the sunday morning show...with "imma race car driver" kenny wallace and crew,when they started talking about bristol,they all said it was about fans not wanting to pay gas prices and hotel/motel prices...yet when you looked at the fan sites when smith announced he was thinking of reverting back to "pre- 2007" conditions..the fans were for it...did nascar "get to them"?,the guys on the show made a big deal about "Jr" saying he was against it and then said they would tell us why after the break...then came back and said..jr says no to changing the track "just because"...and then they talked about changing the tires and the only guy there with enough backbone to speak out on tv...kyle petty...said BS they tried tires and other things already...they ruined the track when they changed it...and they need to put it back...then they just went to Mcrenyonlds and wallace....stayed off petty until they changed the subject...i also liked when petty spoke out against the "old men" who run the penalties appeals boards...he said they were all old men who have been away from the sport for many years and need to be removed..put new guys in who understand the sport today....he got shut up over that too... Yeh if it had been anyone else but Johnsons team the penalties would not have been reversed.Back when he won his championships they were cheating like a dog also but never got caught,except the time the rear of the car was set to ride high in the race and could lower the deck lid and spoiler with hydrolics after the race before inspection.

EasyEd
March 27th, 2012, 16:57
Hey All,

Jimmie and Chad are Saints - everybody knows that! :bump:

The reason Bristol is boring is because what people want to see is not racing but drivers getting mad at each other, shoving each out of the way and throwing helmets and such. That is what people want to see at Bristol. A one to one and half groove track gives exactly that while a wide open two groove track is just round and round and no human excitement/drama. Drivers prefer the ability to race each other not fight each other but fans want it the other way around.

NO different at Daytona/Talledega - it's all about the closeness of the racing just waiting for the "big one". Many fans want emotion and mayhem not racing.

Most of the mile and a half tracks are just clean races till the end when they become fuel economy races.

I personally don't mind a mixture.

-Ed-