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rwmarth
February 1st, 2012, 21:43
Been looking at helos lately, and being a big fan of Accusim, I was intrigued by the Dodosim's 206's engine and system management. Is it a fair assumption then to think that Dodosim's 206 is a very similar experience to that of A2A's accusimed planes? And how does the visual model compare to other helicopters on the market?

Dain Arns
February 1st, 2012, 22:08
Simply, it's the best.

Here is the review by AVSim:
http://www.avsim.com/pages/0810/Flight1/Dodo.html

The summary best states it:


Summary / Closing Remarks

For all simulator pilots that are interested in a helicopter with realistic flight dynamics & procedures, I highly recommend the Dodosim 206 package. If you are primarily a fixed wing pilot or only a casual helicopter pilot, I recommend downloading and reading the user manual before purchase to see if this is the right product for you.

Having five difficulty levels and the tutorial for proper startup & shutdown procedures lets pilots of all skill levels enjoy this wonderful product. The Dodosim 206 is fun to fly, relatively easy to fly at the lowest difficulty setting yet hard to master at the higher difficulty levels. If you give yourself some time to learn to fly 206 properly, you will not want to fly the default FSX helicopters again.

I am definitely going to keep the Dodosim 206 installed on my system so that I can continue to improve my skills at flying it properly and landing on the intended area. - AVSim Review by Mike Cameron

jeansy
February 2nd, 2012, 00:44
And how does the visual model compare to other helicopters on the market?

Yes the systems are second to none, as for the visuals, its not a highly detailed model, many have made the same comment, while the externals are average, the VC is pretty good, like any model, the higher the quality of a paint inside and out the more enjoyable it is to look at, and lucky enough the dodo has a lot of HQ schemes out there

If you are after something that has high detail in and out but not too fussed on systems, any of the cera models, ND/Milviz Huey and Skycrane are up there

but if you want high quality systems but not to fussed about the outside, YES the dodo is what your after, otherwise if you want something that meeets them half way the 222 from cera is the way to go

dont get me wrong, i love my dodo, but i love all helos

Flame-Prop
February 2nd, 2012, 02:03
Dodo Sim is a very odd name when it comes to a payware Heli such as the 206. Sure it has some advanced stuff but the detail of the model is poor.....some good news is OzX did some textures but just for external, so the inside still looks standard. OzX have been generous enough to re-furbish the deafult fsx bell 206, the model is bigger, and did I mention HD, at least the exterior anyway....the interior look better once again, but still has a few blurry textures, just wish it had the Careando's HD texture quality inside and a better rottor wash effect. Tested that with the TSS bell 206 sound pack, was dissapointed that TSS has not captured all the sounds required. There are a few people who tryed to re-create the very popular heli but they all need more work. I saw Aerosoft – Dreamfoil Bell 206 JetRanger III which Im looking into right now, and I think think I like what'm seeing, plus they re-done the R22 as well:icon29:
http://dreamfoil.xyz.ind.br/index.php/jetranger-bell-206-b3 (http://dreamfoil.xyz.ind.br/index.php/robinson-r22-beta-ii)

PCAviator
February 2nd, 2012, 03:32
Can't beat the Dodosim 206 for functionality as stated. Aerosoft's Huey X package is a good mix of functionality and visuals in my opinion. Both good products in their own rights and the top picks for their respective aircraft in FSX.

jeansy
February 2nd, 2012, 03:35
Can't beat the Dodosim 206 for functionality as stated. Aerosoft's Huey X package is a good mix of functionality and visuals in my opinion. Both good products in their own rights and the top picks for their respective aircraft in FSX.

its about time dean...

Marvin Carter
February 2nd, 2012, 05:27
Check out over at Hovercontrol there are a few paints there, great place for all things helos. http://www.hovercontrol.com/

Dain Arns
February 2nd, 2012, 05:34
... I saw Aerosoft – Dreamfoil Bell 206 JetRanger III which Im looking into right now, and I think think I like what'm seeing, plus they re-done the R22 as well:icon29:
http://dreamfoil.xyz.ind.br/index.php/jetranger-bell-206-b3 (http://dreamfoil.xyz.ind.br/index.php/robinson-r22-beta-ii)

Dreamfoil products are very nice.
However, they are for X-Plane, not FSX. ;)

jetstreamsky
February 2nd, 2012, 13:38
What is important to know about the Dodosim versus the rest is the way it flies with speed related torque effect, vortex ring state meaning careful management of the flights interaction with airflow is significant and applicable sound effects related to manoeuvers causing blade chop, etc. Wind direction on engine start and temperatures all make it necessary to do things right. Flying outside of limits causes wear and failures, hot starts causes fires, etc. Flying other helos after Dodosim, no matter how pretty, simply doesn't compare

Alan_A
February 2nd, 2012, 16:02
Speaking as a huge fan of Accusim, I can tell you that for me at least the Dodo 206 is a terrific experience. The Aerosoft Huey X flies well and has good visuals, but the system fidelity isn't at the Dodo level (no other FSX helo really is). Also worth a look is the Cerasim Bell 222, especially with this flight dynamics mod (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ifolio/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=FSX_Helicopter_Configs&image=CeraSim_222B_FDupdate.zip&img=9&tt=zip), and the new Nemeth AS 350. And I've enjoyed the Nemeth/Milviz Huey and the Cera Bell 212 and 412, especially when paired with Helicopter Total Realism (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ifolio/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=HTR_-_Helicopter_Total_Realism&image=HTR_15.zip&img=&tt=zip). But the Dodo is in a class by itself.

I agree the Dodo's VC is nothing special, but the visibility is so good and the nature of flying a helo is such that you spend nearly all your time looking outside the cockpit. There are some visual enhancements available - for example, this VC mod (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ifolio/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=FSX_Panels_and_Gauges&image=New_VC_DODOSIM_Bell_206.zip&img=18&search=dodo&cat=all&tt=zip&bool=and), and this fix that adds reflective glass to the VC (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=1&t=17516) (click the link in the first post), which helps the atmosphere a lot.

Bottom line: VC aside, the Dodo is the helo equivalent of an A2A product.

Oh, about the Dreamfoil helos for X-Plane - they're great. And so is the BK 117 by ND Art and Technology (http://nd-art-and-technology.com/BK117_main.html).

rwmarth
February 2nd, 2012, 16:40
Thanks for all the input! Seems the 206 is just what I am looking for then

Flame-Prop
February 3rd, 2012, 02:58
Dreamfoil products are very nice.
However, they are for X-Plane, not FSX. ;)


Plese tell me they will work with FSX:bump:

Daube
February 3rd, 2012, 03:33
Speaking of the Dodosim, could somebody tell me if it is fully flyable from the VC, or do you need to use 2D panels to operate the systems and engines ?
I hate using 2D panels. HoverControl's 412 is quite a complete addon, but you can't use it without going through the 2D panel for engine operations, and the VC is nearly useless, so in the end I uninstalled it.
How is it with the Dodosim ?

OleBoy
February 3rd, 2012, 03:35
I've no idea why people mention products that aren't compliant with said forum. This is the "Microsoft Flight Simulator X" simulation forum. Not X-Plane or any other.

Tim-HH
February 3rd, 2012, 05:08
Speaking of the Dodosim, could somebody tell me if it is fully flyable from the VC, or do you need to use 2D panels to operate the systems and engines ?

Yep, the VC is fully flyable...no need to use the 2D panels.

The Dodo 206 is without question the best FSX helicopter. At least if you are aiming for maximum realism :)

Greetings
Tim

Alan_A
February 3rd, 2012, 09:41
Plese tell me they will work with FSX:bump:

No. They're for X-Plane. They don't work in FSX.

Alan_A
February 3rd, 2012, 09:46
Yep, the VC is fully flyable...no need to use the 2D panels.

Tim

I've found there are just a couple of quirks in the VC - the fuel valve doesn't always switch on reliably and the starter button can be hard to get a grip on. So I use the 2D for those. Takes a second or two and doesn't detract from the overall (great) experience.

Flame-Prop
February 3rd, 2012, 16:38
I agree the Dodo's VC is nothing special, but the visibility is so good and the nature of flying a helo is such that you spend nearly all your time looking outside the cockpit. There are some visual enhancements available - for example, this VC mod (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ifolio/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=FSX_Panels_and_Gauges&image=New_VC_DODOSIM_Bell_206.zip&img=18&search=dodo&cat=all&tt=zip&bool=and), and this fix that adds reflective glass to the VC (http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=1&t=17516) (click the link in the first post), which helps the atmosphere a lot.

Bottom line: VC aside, the Dodo is the helo equivalent of an A2A product.

Oh, about the Dreamfoil helos for X-Plane - they're great. And so is the BK 117 by ND Art and Technology (http://nd-art-and-technology.com/BK117_main.html).[/QUOTE]

Cannot belive this, the guy who made the reflective glass to VC and a few other tweaks, he made a .dds files instead of .bmp:icon_lol: I really need these files since the VC is a bit plain :kilroy:

Flame-Prop
February 4th, 2012, 00:44
Hang on a sec, Isn't dodosim 206 FSX meant to have external engine sounds just like any other FSX Heli?

Daube
February 4th, 2012, 09:07
Thanks for the information about the virtual cockpit. :ernae:

Anneke
February 4th, 2012, 10:54
Cannot belive this, the guy who made the reflective glass to VC and a few other tweaks, he made a .dds files instead of .bmp:icon_lol: I really need these files since the VC is a bit plain :kilroy:

Did you find them? Where?

Flame-Prop
February 4th, 2012, 22:04
Did you find them? Where?


So the new VC (upgraded,somewhat)
http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ifolio/imageFolio.cgi?direct=FSX_Panels_and_Gauges

If it comes with the files as .dds, found out a solution. Obviously they need to be converted into .bmp winch is what the panel textures are as.Fortunatly I UN-sucessfully made the upgrade yet :kilroy: Anyway so to convert the files you would need a .dds to .bmp file converter....looked around for one but they are all rubbish, however there is an online converter which is great! :salute:
http://image.online-convert.com/convert-to-bmp