KC Flight Shop Republic RC-3 SeaBee Now Released! (Payware) [Archive]

Gibbage

January 27th, 2012, 19:38

Thank you ALL for waiting patiently for this. Its been a LONG project, but one that I think is well worth the wait.

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KC FlightShop Introduces the Republic RC-3 Seabee an all-metal amphibious sports aircraft designed by Percival Spencer in 1944 and the RC-1 made its first flight with Spencer at the controls. By the end of 1944 Republic had received 1,972 civilian orders for the $3,500 airplane. The Navy granted Republic Aviation the rights to use the name Seabee for the civilian version. Today, more than 60 years after production ended, the Seabee is still the most popular amphibian on the used-market…

The KC FlightShop recreates the first production RC-3 Seabee with original equipment as released from the factory for a vintage flight experience, the fully interactive VC uses 3D gauges throughout with every system modeled.
 Features include HD quality textures (2048 x 2048).
 Authentic HQ digital stereo sounds.
 Fully animated pilot
 Kneeboard checklist with performance tables.
 Realistic night lights effect in the virtual cockpit..
 FSX features: external dynamic shadows, internal dynamic shadows on VC,volumetric normal mapping, specular mapping and bloom lights.
 FPS. friendly model
 Interactive virtual cockpit.
 Full moving parts: Ailerons, elevators, rudders, flaps, rolling wheels and trim tab
 Animated Doors
 Lights: Panel Lights, Navigation lights, landing and cabin lights.
 Fully normal mapped interior.
 Compatible with Addon Hardware and Shared Cockpit Functions
 Easy to use paintkit
 Realistic behaviour, pilot tested to match the real airplane.
 Help from many pilot and owners of real Seabee’s for accuracy and authenticity

Visit the KC FlightShop http://www.kcflightshop.com/ for a look at this new release!

For any support, please visit our forums at www.kcflightshop.com/forum/ (http://www.kcflightshop.com/forum/) and register. Its free and automatic!

Gibbage

January 27th, 2012, 19:39

Were you just hitting F5 on my web page? Shiesh! Still writing up the press release!

Dain Arns

January 27th, 2012, 19:49

Were you just hitting F5 on my web page? Shiesh! Still writing up the press release!

Nooope.

Just got home from work, checked to see if it was out yet.
Checked the page, 'Button' was live.
I pressed it.

Call it 'Kismet". LOL. :icon_lol:

EDIT: Wow, great looking pilot!

Gibbage

January 27th, 2012, 20:06

EDIT: Wow, great looking pilot!

I hope thats not the only thing you think is great looking!

Dain Arns

January 27th, 2012, 20:36

I hope thats not the only thing you think is great looking!

Nooope. :icon_lol:

It's all good, inside and out.
Especially over Maui.

Thanks, Kevin! Great job!

falcon409

January 27th, 2012, 21:33

Kevin, this has the WOW Factor locked up from the get-go. I didn't have a lot of time to fly her (gotta go out of town early in the AM), but I wanted to get at least one flight in before I hit the pillow. Flew from Friday Harbor over to Stuart Island (great view on final to rwy 27 at Stuart). This beauty will help me get reacquainted with the South Pacific Islands and the Great Northwest. Beautiful airplane, terrific sound set, so smooth on final it almost seems like you could land hands-off. Just an excellent job all the way around. . . .Congratulations Kevin!!:applause::salute:

Kiwikat

January 27th, 2012, 22:01

Oh man, I can't wait till im back home and can fly her. :mixedsmi:

Congrats on the release Kevin! :applause:

glennc

January 27th, 2012, 22:06

I agree with Ed after a few minutes tooling around Put-In-Bay Ohio. My only issue is there is almost no lateral control at low speed on the ground. She's all over the place. Full disclosure, I have not read the fun manual yet. She seems to be OK on water and wonderful airborne. Why would I fly her any place else, anyway. The first strip I tried to fly from was grass. Not fun. That aside, this is one fun ride. Very well done. :guinness: :applause:

Glenn

YoYo

January 27th, 2012, 22:40

Looks very interesting ! Crg!

Just cant find James Bond in VC ! ;)

foreigndevil

January 27th, 2012, 22:49

Looking spectacular! :applause:

jankees

January 27th, 2012, 23:18

Congratulations on the release, Kevin!

I will uploading a few paints I did for this lovely birds over the next few days, here's the first three:

N6295K (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2299-kcfs-seabee-kenmore-air/) of Kenmore Air:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/FX15023.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/FX14308.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/kenmore001.jpg

SE-AXM (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2298-kcfs-seabee-se-axm/), a Swedish Seabee currently under restoration

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/se-axm004.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/se-axm001.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/se-axm003.jpg

and VH-WET (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2297-kcfs-seabee-vh-wet/), as far as I know the only Seabee that made it to downunder.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/vh-wet02.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/FX15096.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/vh-wet01.jpg

more to come..

Gibbage

January 27th, 2012, 23:42

Thanks for your help in the beta Jan. Your Kenmore Air Seabee livery lead me into an interesting adventure. I live up here in the PNW and VERY close to Kenmore's main base in Kenmore. I love riding by it and seeing all the Beavers out there! I never knew HOW they started till you posted that livery! I did a little research, and it turns out Kenmore Air started out as a Seabee sales office for the PNW!!! They ran there own Seabee doing bush flying around the area, and that started the famous Kenmore Air! Very interesting, as I know a few of the Kenmore pilots. I worked with one at ACES back in the days. After ACES closed he became a full time pilot at Kenmore. I should say HI to him! :icon_lol:

Bruce Thompson

January 28th, 2012, 00:43

Will this be available anywhere other than Flight1?

greenie

January 28th, 2012, 00:48

Have been following the thread on this . Bought it . Thank you !
Very nice but cannot seem to get her over 90 atm. First thing first though, stop flying and read the manual !!
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Killbilly

January 28th, 2012, 03:53

Well, sad news here. After looking forward to this bird so long, I went to download and ESET freaked out. It blocked, quarantined, and deleted the file claiming it contained a "variant of Win32/Packed.Themida potentially unwanted application." I am assuming that this is a false-positive (as others have obviously downloaded successfully); but before I risk it, can anyone confirm that the above-mentioned application is safe and supposed to be there? I'm sure I won't be the only one with this problem (other ESET NOD32 users will likely experience the same thing).

falcon409

January 28th, 2012, 04:08

. . . . . .Very nice but cannot seem to get her over 90 atm. . . . . .
Yep, she wasn't really built for speed and depending on winds aloft you might see that number go a bit higher or a bit lower, lol.:salute:

Chuck_Jodry-VJPL

January 28th, 2012, 04:11

That is normal , its impossible for me to keep an F1 installer on any computer without setting my AV program to accept as safe the installers so they dont end up in quarenteen.

Best CJ

Killbilly

January 28th, 2012, 04:20

papab

January 28th, 2012, 06:09

Update . . . after doing some research, I've found that Themida is legitimate software that is used to protect files from being "reverse engineered" by hackers. In this case, it is probably part of the Flight1 wrapper's anti-piracy protections. However, Themida (ironically) is often used by hackers and vandals to keep anti-virus software from detecting a threat until it is already installed and has delivered its payload. ESET (on their forums) strongly suggests not allowing a program protected by Themida to run. As much as I trust Kevin and KCFS (and as much as I desperately want to fly this beautiful plane), I can't risk exposing my carefully set-up and tuned machine to a potential reformatting and reinstall due to some hacker's malicious joke. I guess I'm out of luck on this one (which is a HUGE disappointment) unless there will be a way to purchase without the Themida risk; or until someone with ESET has played the guinea pig and ignored the warning, installed, and run a full system scan to determine the safety. Any takers?

KillBilly,
This was posted by Kevin over at his forums:

"Please make sure to run the F1 installer ad administrator! (Right click on the exe file, left click "Run as admin") to give the F1 wrapper proper permissions within Windows 7 and Windows Vista.

Some anti-virus programs can possibly detect the F1 wrapper as a virus. This is a very well known and documented problem. Simply ignore the virus warnings, or disable anti-virus for the duration of the installation."

You won't have any problems with his download- I was one of the BETA testers and downloaded many files...
Rick

n4gix

January 28th, 2012, 06:10

Update . . . after doing some research, I've found that Themida is legitimate software that is used to protect files from being "reverse engineered" by hackers. In this case, it is probably part of the Flight1 wrapper's anti-piracy protections.

This is a well-known and documented "False Positive," meaning that while your AV is detecting a Themida signature, it has no way to distinguish between a legitimate and illegitimate package.

Flight1 has been asking AV folks for YEARS to update their signature files to stop this false reporting to absolutely no avail. See post #14 in this thread from Steve Halpern directed to the folks at ESET (makers of NOD32), dated September 13, 2007:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=184840

See also this thread at AVSIM from 2009. What it comes down to in the end is whether you trust the source of the software you're trying to install. Flight1 has been in business more than long enough to have earned our trust. :applause:

Killbilly

January 28th, 2012, 06:24

Thanks, Gents. I'm very happy to hear that this is a known issue and the file is safe. I'm off to download!

January 28th, 2012, 06:30

Looks great... I may have to pick this one up.

papab

January 28th, 2012, 06:53

Here is a great link for the Republic SeaBee
Lots of good reading...
http://www.seabee.info/seabee.htm
Rick

dougal

January 28th, 2012, 07:08

This is wonderful news. Although I actually prefer the twin, I've been drooling over this since the first time I saw of it's release.

With having recently had my main gaming PC stolen, I'm using a borrowed lower spec machine just now, meaning I can't really use some of the more heavy duty addons. So, this release is PERFECT for me at the moment.

Off to download NOW!

Thanks Kevin AND ALL OTHERS involved for bringing us this magical little bird!

:applause::applause::applause:

Roger

January 28th, 2012, 08:11

Thanks Jankees for your paints! OleBoy when will you be uploading yours?...The more the merrier for me with this bird:applause:

Hughes-MDflyer4

January 28th, 2012, 09:02

n4gix

January 28th, 2012, 09:12

After going through paypal, and clicking the "Complete Paypal Purchase" button (with the code entered in the text field, it begins to process, then says that the order is declined. Any reason why? I was really looking forward to flying the SeaBee this morning...now Flight1 is torturing me. :icon_lol:

Is your PayPal account linked to your bank checking and/or savings account, or if not do you have sufficient funds in the PayPal account? I honestly can't think of any other reasons unless it's a temporary connectivity issue between the F1 server and PayPal...

In any case, open a ticket at Flight1's support system and make an inquiry: http://www.flight1.com/ticket.asp

Hughes-MDflyer4

January 28th, 2012, 09:20

Is your PayPal account linked to your bank checking and/or savings account, or if not do you have sufficient funds in the PayPal account? I honestly can't think of any other reasons unless it's a temporary connectivity issue between the F1 server and PayPal...

In any case, open a ticket at Flight1's support system and make an inquiry: http://www.flight1.com/ticket.asp

I've had no issues ordering through Flight1 in the past. I have enough funds to cover the cost. Very strange. I will open a support ticket and see what happens.

Thanks,
Brandon

Roger

January 28th, 2012, 09:45

Really enjoying this aircraft:applause:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-2-1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-1-1.jpg

Bruce Thompson

January 28th, 2012, 10:07

Tried to buy through Flight1, no joy at all, same problem as above, it's just a pain it stated it could not find an account for my email address.
Well it did yesterday, spent all day trying to reload FEX, in frustration in the end I paid for it again thinking I would receive the latest version,
what I got was the older 1.3 version not the 2.03.

I have opened this stupid ticket thing of theirs but had no reply yet.

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 11:49

Unfortunately iss a well known problem with the F1 installer. Please disable you anti-virus for the download and install. You can read more about this problem here. http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=wrapperinfo#3

Kevin

jankees

January 28th, 2012, 12:02

and one more paint coming your way (uploading as I type):

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/73K03.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/73K02.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/73K01.jpg

Here (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2301-kcfs-seabee-n6373k/) you are, enjoy it!

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 12:05

And for those asking, yes we will provide the Seabee to other markets then F1. We have not decided on who yet, but I think Simmarket will be one of them. For now we will be selling on our web page through F1 since its the best return. Selling through other venders will take a much bigger cut of the sales.

Kiwikat

January 28th, 2012, 12:11

and one more paint coming your way (uploading as I type):

Here (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2301-kcfs-seabee-n6373k/) you are, enjoy it!

I was hoping you'd do that one. Thanks! :jump:

jankees

January 28th, 2012, 12:14

Why not another Swede?
Sweden seems perfect for the Seabee, with all those lakes..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/SE-ERT001.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/SE-ERT002.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/SE-ERT003.jpg

a few more tomorrow, hopefully.

pbearsailor

January 28th, 2012, 12:31

Isn't it great when a plane you have high hopes for turns out to be every bit that good when it's released? :medals:

Thanks Kevin and Chuck and Bernt for a great effort and Jankees for those great paints too. Really like the flight model, Bernt.

Cheers,
steve. :wavey:

Fireball6

January 28th, 2012, 12:46

Thanks for such a great Bird - very well done !!!!! :applause: and also for your repaints jankees - great !

Dirk

Hughes-MDflyer4

January 28th, 2012, 12:47

Tried disabling my antivirus. That didn't work. Opened a support ticket a couple of hours ago, and still no reply. Have also tried placing the order again. No success. This is getting annoying...I want to fly it so bad! :banghead:

VCN-1

January 28th, 2012, 13:03

Jankees

Turn the American flag so the blue field faces forward unless that is how it is depicted on the real bird.

VCN-1

racartron

January 28th, 2012, 13:16

"and one more paint coming your way (uploading as I type):"

And where are y'all uploading these wee beauties?

Reddog

January 28th, 2012, 13:19

Love the airplane thanks for the great job. Now were are all these repaints for it that I see posted??
Also how do u turn on the the vc lights, I can't get them to come on the rest seem to be ok.

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 13:22

There is a row of switches under the yoke. You may need to hide the left yoke by clicking the center section of the yoke (not the knob) in order to see the switch. There are two switches. The cabin lite and the dash light. The dash light has both Dim and Bright settings. Hope this helps!

OleBoy

January 28th, 2012, 13:25

OleBoy when will you be uploading yours?...The more the merrier for me with this bird:applause:

I will try to get them packaged and uploaded ASAP. I've got a few irons in the fire currently that I need to focus on.

glennc

January 28th, 2012, 13:32

I'm running Norton 360. It does the same thing the others do. This works in 360: create a folder someplace. mine is downloads\flight1. Then set the AV software to not scan that folder. do the purchase and download. Then turn off the AV software long enough to install. That opens the machine up for a much shorter period of time. I've done that with a few things. I don't like it, but that's life. You do what you have to do.

Glenn

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 13:38

Good tips Glenn. Most AV software have a function to disable the scanning for a short time. Typically you can right-click on the AV icon in your task tray, and find some type of "disable" feature. I use Microsoft Security Essentials myself and it did not give me the false positive.

jojohnson9

January 28th, 2012, 13:55

After all the new planes I bought over the holidays, I was going to wait a few months on this one. Darn glad I didn't. It is great, really fun to fly. And it's looks are fantastic.
One very small nit to pick. The 2D MINIPANEL shows up really huge, the gauges overfill the display. I sometimes use this panel, so I resized it to fit. Try these numbers if you have this very small problem:

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=405,60
position=7
visible=1
ident=MINIPANEL
child_3d=1
no_luminous=1

gauge00=Cessna172!Airspeed, 10,0,60,58
gauge01=Cessna!Turn_Indicator, 75,0,60,58
gauge02=CessnaWAlpha!Attitude_Alpha, 140,0,60,58
gauge03=Cessna!Heading_Indicator, 205,0,60,58
gauge04=Cessna!Altimeter, 335,0,60,58
gauge05=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 270,0,60,58

Well worth the bucks to have this floater.

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 13:58

Reddog

January 28th, 2012, 13:58

jankees

January 28th, 2012, 15:01

"and one more paint coming your way (uploading as I type):"

And where are y'all uploading these wee beauties?

sorry about that flag! I hope I'll have time for an update later..

for my paints, try here

(http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=750)

jojohnson9

January 28th, 2012, 15:05

Thank you for the feedback on the 2D panel! I think its one of those things that didnt get tested well, as not a lot of people still use the 2D panel, but im glad to have your feedback. I will look into this and maybe put it in a patch later on.
It's probably nothing you would think about since the MINIPANEL in no way reflects the actual gauges in the Seabee. I use it to cheat so I can fly this plane at night....need the attitude indicator.

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 15:19

ok found the switches and no lights working whether dim or bright and the the domelight ether way, on or off.

Thats very odd. Make sure the main battery switch is IN. Its below the yoke center.

Reddog

January 28th, 2012, 16:58

Thats very odd. Make sure the main battery switch is IN. Its below the yoke center.

yes it is on and still no lights, at least I say no lights turning the switches on or off produces no change in the panel. I see in the A/c cfg that all the lights in the light section are commented out, is that right?

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 17:06

Im not sure myself. I will look into this.

Roger

January 28th, 2012, 17:13

Same issue, no panel lights or dome light illumination. The dome light looks on but the light does not brighten the cabin. The commented out Lights section in the cfg has co-ordinates that are way off compared to the view point co-ordinates, so if the modelled lighting has these co-ordinates then maybe that's the problem? Otherwise great aircraft...put in 3 or 4 hours today over PNW:applause:

Marvin Carter

January 28th, 2012, 18:46

This plane is just to cool, made a little house for it to keep it warm at night!!!
5768657687

falcon409

January 28th, 2012, 19:08

This plane is just to cool, made a little house for it to keep it warm at night!!!
5768657687
. . . .and that is just very cool Marvin.:applause::applause:

falcon409

January 28th, 2012, 19:30

jankees

January 28th, 2012, 22:44

Here (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/2303-kcfs-seabee-c-gide/) is another Seabee paint that I hope you'll enjoy!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/c-gide1.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/c-gide2.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/c-gide3.jpg

wow, Marvin, that boat house /hangar looks so cool!

Gibbage

January 28th, 2012, 23:23

This plane is just to cool, made a little house for it to keep it warm at night!!!

I... LOVE IT!

skyhawka4m

January 29th, 2012, 04:18

I watched the development all through and was on the fense with it but frankly...the final nail was the quality of the paint work, the light weathering techniques espeically. I have always said that an awesome paint job could save the life of an ailing aircraft, when referring to some freeware planes. In this case....an awesome model wrapped in awesome paint deserves to be bought. So I did and I''ve added another plane to fly form time to time....and a great one at that. :medals:

Reddog

January 29th, 2012, 05:24

Ok, I "uncommented" the light section and here's the results (for me at least). . . .in order from left to right:
Dome light off, Dome light on, instruments Dim, Instruments Bright.
I also checked the Anchor light and all other external lights and they were fine. The only set that's questionable is the Instrument lighting, Dim seems to be brighter than the bright setting, lol.

I uncommented the vclight only but didn't see any inprovement. Here is the light section from my cfg file and it doesn't even have the red wing light in it yet all the out side lights are working except the anchor lite??

Killbilly

January 29th, 2012, 05:32

Well this was certianly worth the wait (and more than worth the money). She's beautiful inside and out, a bit of a challenge on short narrow runways (which I love), and perfect for the low-and-slow bush flying I do most. The cockpit is amazingly well done. Excellent detail and functionality. I'm going to be putting lots of hours in that office. Thanks for a great addition to the hangar! I can't wait for the IFR version.5773657735577375773857739

falcon409

January 29th, 2012, 05:36

I uncommented the vclight only but didn't see any inprovement. Here is the light section from my cfg file and it doesn't even have the red wing light in it yet all the out side lights are working except the anchor lite??
Yea, the exterior lights seem to be fine (I'm guessing the Nav lights are modeled in and not controlled by anything in the light section? maybe?). The interior lighting is odd though as I also noticed that depending on the time of day (in particular from dawn to daylight) you either see a difference or you don't and at one point, the dome light actually made the interior darker than when I turned it off, lol.

falcon409

January 29th, 2012, 05:40

Had a nice flight from Stuart Island down to Bear Gulch. Touched down right around the house at Bear Gulch and was rolling across the bridge towards the hangar and got a crash detection. Grrrrrrrr!! No tip over, no obvious crash, but as soon as I got to the bridge. . . . .CRASH!! took me all the way back to Stuart Island. I don't think so!!!!! lol. I'll begin the next flight from Bear Gulch. . . . .that'll show em', lol.

foreigndevil

January 29th, 2012, 05:51

Just a question about this wonderful machine: when sitting on the water, shouldn't the floats touch the water? In other words, should it sit that high?

jankees

January 29th, 2012, 06:18

and here are my last two paints, I hope that's enough to keep you guys happy for the moment?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/52K-01.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/52K-03.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/FX15436.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/Seabee/FX15432.jpg

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 06:26

Jankees, I hope you can keep the kids "busy" for a little while longer. LOL!!! I'm in the process of getting my repaints ready for shipping. First thing this morning, coffee in one hand, rubbing the eyes with the other. Using the mouse and keyboard via my "chimp" given other ways. :icon_lol:

maloney

January 29th, 2012, 07:27

Gentlemen,

Somehow i missed the Seabee completely ... ;)

And now, out of a sudden, it landed on my hard disk. What a nice surprise! I have to say that this bird is a beauty right down to the scratches and dents of its instrument panel.
The Seabee flies well, somewhat demanding when it comes to the approach due to its (over?) sensitive rudder. Propperly trimmed one can ride like a train on its tracks but you have to apply a tiny bit of rudder to compensate the small left tendency. Landings are not that difficult one might expect from such an old plane, but you must judge your approach by watching the environment closely due to the abscence of a variometer. Otherwise it is a bush pilots dream: drop your landing gear and push the nose down. Even with some power standing it will not go beyond 70 KIAS. Be aware that the Bee usues far more runway to get airborne than it uses up for a complete halt. It is a pilots plane indeed.

Applying bump- and specular mapping to the VC was a good decision, because it adds to the athmosphere of the interior. The outer skin is well done and just with the right quantity of wear and stains. Personally, i would prefer a bit more wear and tear in the VC as well. Like the instrument panel itself which "sports" scratches and dents, the interior side panels, seats and floor should have some signs of the years of usage.

Did i read correctly in another thread that other versions of the Bee are planned? If that is the case i have a recommendation: Add a seventies or eighties instrument panel together with some "used up" interior. I mean not "worn", it should look like a well maintained interior but with the used look mentioned above.

After some flying in and out of remote locations i have to say that the Seabee is worth the bucks. It is a welcome change to the majority of GA planes available.
Well done chaps, well done.

My Thanks to the KCFS team, regards,

bstolle

January 29th, 2012, 09:50

The Seabee flies well, somewhat demanding when it comes to the approach due to its (over?) sensitive rudder

If you look at the size of the rudder and the vertical stabilizer and take into account that both are in the undisturbed slipstream of the prop with no fuselage to interfere, the high sensitiity isn't too surprising.
Nevertheless it's still it's too weak to handle even a moderate crosswind ;)

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 10:37

All these are residing in the SOH file library.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4897/thumbnailkw.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2114/thumbnailoa.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9015/thumbnailgjb.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1552/thumbnailen.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8816/thumbnailrs.jpg
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1715/thumbnailqp.jpg

Dexdoggy

January 29th, 2012, 11:15

Absolute top-notch aircraft! I am amazed at how such a "simple" aircraft can look and feel so real! :applause:

Gibbage

January 29th, 2012, 11:21

Just a question about this wonderful machine: when sitting on the water, shouldn't the floats touch the water? In other words, should it sit that high?

Sponsons dont generally drag in the water on any seaplanes. They are just there to prevent it from tipping over. You can see in this photo, that even though one side is dipping in, the other side has a good foot of air between the sponson and the water.

http://www.1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Cieslak/10563.jpg

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 11:44

My work is uploaded. Now we just need to wait until they are made active.

Enjoy everyone ;)

newcomer

January 29th, 2012, 11:53

My work is uploaded. Now we just need to wait until they are made active.

Enjoy everyone ;)

I surely will :wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:!

Gibbage

January 29th, 2012, 13:28

Doing some research on the Kenmore Seabee (Its still flying in the PNW BTW) I found a very interesting photo.

http://www.seabee.info/images/N6295K_01_640.jpg

I wonder how common this sort of thing is? I asked the Seabee pilots, but its really interesting on two points. First, landing in the snow!!! Never thought of that! 2nd, the Kenmore Seabee removed the landing gears. I wonder how easy it is to take off after landign like that?

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 13:43

I would think that the take-off distance would be lengthened considerably, considering the aft part of the pontoon structure is restricting normal lift angles. It would be interesting to see it done!!

dougal

January 29th, 2012, 13:46

jankees

January 29th, 2012, 13:50

I know that they did a few rescue missions with PBY's landing and taking off from snow and ice, so a little bird like this should be possible I guess..
That's pic I used as inspiration for my paint btw!

Gibbage

January 29th, 2012, 14:42

P38man

January 29th, 2012, 15:01

I have been testing the Seabee with RealEngine v1.2 freeware gauge (on these forums).

Am still going through testing and adjustment (adjustment occurs because of slight differences eg HP and MP in the plane's gauge and RealEngine's gauge) I had collated the actual numbers well before in anticipation!

Is it OK for me to post my settings once I am satisfied?

Oleboy's first paint and Jankees "Bird" paint are just awesome (in particular) - thanks guys.

Kevin, very very well done she is a beauty. Love your P38 and love this too.

Bstolle - your flight model makes the bird feel organic and smooth at the same time you must fly it carefully especially on takeoff and landings. Feels real thanks to you!

Ark

January 29th, 2012, 15:02

Wow, what a great add-on!! Took me by suprise. I didn't even notice one of these was being created. The model, sounds, and "feel" while in flight are top notch!

Quick question; How do I add some glass shine to the exterior glass? I am pretty savvy with PS, but am not sure which file to add an alpha layer too.

Thanks for the great aircraft!

Gibbage

January 29th, 2012, 15:04

Is it OK for me to post my settings once I am satisfied?

Please do! Also if you dont mind, maybe I can incorporate them in a patch to help people out with the same gauges.

P38man

January 29th, 2012, 15:40

Please do! Also if you dont mind, maybe I can incorporate them in a patch to help people out with the same gauges.

I would be honoured. Am putting numbers into an expanded spreadsheet (rather than my usual one) now to aid you with your purpose ( I find this fun believe it or not )

Give me a day or 2 of testing. I will PM it to you.

Thanks again for a plane of such quality. It is a lot of fun.

jpmouse

January 29th, 2012, 17:39

What a delightful addition to my fleet. Thoroughly enjoying this work of art!

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 19:00

For all waiting, my repaints just hit the library and are available :wavey:

falcon409

January 29th, 2012, 19:48

For all waiting, my repaints just hit the library and are available :wavey:
Downloaded your Navy Livery OleBoy. I had done that one for the PAD Seabee and so I was glad to see you chose that as one to do for this beauty. Much Appreciated!!:applause:

Ark

January 29th, 2012, 20:20

Gibbage, I tried modifying the glass_T file to add some shine effects to the exterior glass but nothing happened.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

OleBoy

January 29th, 2012, 21:14

Downloaded your Navy Livery OleBoy. I had done that one for the PAD Seabee and so I was glad to see you chose that as one to do for this beauty. Much Appreciated!!:applause:

Yes Sir! The owner of that SeaBee has also been here to have a peek at my work. He was pretty impressed. I was pretty surprised when he contacted me via PM :icon_lol:

Gibbage

January 29th, 2012, 23:25

I think the glass shine is part of the material and not the texture. If it is, then the user cant edit it.

Gibbage, I tried modifying the glass_T file to add some shine effects to the exterior glass but nothing happened.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

jankees

January 30th, 2012, 00:50

It turns out there was an error in my VH-WET repaint as it was available on OZx.
You can cure it yourself by opening the 'body_02.dds' file in DXTbmp, flipping it vertically and saving again, or by downloading the new version that I have uploaded on Ozx.
Sorry about the mix-up,

Jan Kees

Dain Arns

January 30th, 2012, 05:16

Just got an E-mail from a Seabee owner saying that yes, it is possible, and also Beavers do it! Would think its rather harry for a heaver to do it with its high cog!

If you want to read more on Kenmore, there is this book. http://www.amazon.com/Success-Step-Flying-Kenmore-Air/dp/0976020009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327881240&sr=8-1

Easy... (Okay. It is from snow covered ice)

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EIm7NJKpX5Q?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" width="480" frameborder="0" height="360"></iframe>

Even Amphibs do it... :icon_lol:

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/52eVdYLnmzg?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" width="480" frameborder="0" height="360"></iframe>

olderndirt

January 30th, 2012, 06:24

Up on Denali. One guy's ready for Winter - the other will be soon.

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racartron

January 30th, 2012, 08:49

What a great little water baby! After turning off my crazy Norton A/V app for a few minutes, I was able to get 'er down and installed effortlessly. And the timing of the release was perfect. I had just finished installing Chris Carel's massive Land's End Sea Base series and was in need of this gal.

As usual, from my fs9 days, I couldn't resist Shockwaving 'er:icon_lol: In the process I think I have a good solution for the interior lights. I also continued my "overkill" approach by adding some strobes and a landing light. Actuually, the landing light is not over the top as I saw several planes on the Internet with one and sometines two landing lights -- I assume after market add-ons. Anyway, if ya don't light them, just "//" 'em out.

Now, where did I put that blasted paddle?

edit: Oops I forgot to include my changes.

Add to the Aircraft.cfg:

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0 = 4, 3.90, -1.00, 1.60, fx_vclight_Red
//light.1 = 4, 3.90, 1.00, 1.60, fx_vclight_Red
light.2 = 1, -15.00, 0.00, 8.55, fx_padbeaconh
light.3 = 3, 0.90, -18.85, 3.50, fx_shockwave_navred_nl
light.4 = 3, 0.90, 18.85, 3.50, fx_shockwave_navgre_nl
light.5 = 2, 0.90, -18.85, 3.50, fx_shockwave_strobe_nl
light.6 = 2, 0.90, 18.85, 3.50, fx_shockwave_strobe_nl_3
light.7 = 5, 3.40, -17.10, 3.40, fx_shockwave_landing_light_tail_old

racartron

January 30th, 2012, 09:19

wallyboard

January 30th, 2012, 10:20

This Seabee doesn't like the frozen lakes for landing wheels up! Wonky forward roll and dive. Had to try it though!

Cheers
Larry

Gibbage

January 30th, 2012, 10:48

Just set down outside of Norman's Cay in the Bahamas and when I dropped the anchor a strange thing happen. I got this furious smoke venting from the front of the plane like I had landed on an undersea thermal vent or something. The only way to extinguish it was to pull up the anchor. Any ideas what this is all about?

Another user reported the same thing on our forum. We will look into fixing this and a few other small problems in a patch later on, so please keep us informed on any problems you may find! It helps us make it a better product!

Gibbage

January 30th, 2012, 10:52

This Seabee doesn't like the frozen lakes for landing wheels up! Wonky forward roll and dive. Had to try it though!

Cheers
Larry

I will ask Chuck if this is a feature we can support. After finding the pic of the Seabee landing in snow, it makes me want to try it!

Kevin

jpmouse

January 30th, 2012, 11:22

Noticed that sometimes I get just a ghost of the fuselage. Wondering if it is a graphics card problem or a DX10 issue. Guess I could just turn it off and see.

Gibbage

January 30th, 2012, 11:34

I used dx10 exclusively throughout making and testing the Seabee and never once saw ghosting. None of our testers reported it. What video card do you run, and do you see this only on the Seabee?

olderndirt

January 30th, 2012, 11:51

The Kenmore Bee just off Lake Union on a typical VFR Seattle afternoon.57835

P38man

January 30th, 2012, 15:26

. . . .and that is just very cool Marvin.:applause::applause:

Marvin I would really like this one.....care to release it?

falcon409

January 30th, 2012, 15:30

Continuing my trip down the NWCoast, from Bear Gulch to Newport, Ore with RW Weather. What a blast the Seabee is. . . .

falcon409

January 30th, 2012, 15:32

. . . . .and a few more. . . .

doublecool

January 30th, 2012, 16:23

Nice Shots Falcon

The detail looks fantastic :applause: I'll be getting this first of the month

falcon409

January 30th, 2012, 19:52

Just an FYI related to the previous discussion on the interior lighting. . . .I'm doing a night flight from Newport to Redding (California). With the dome light switch in the "off" position, the cockpit interior is lit and the dome light is on. The instrument lighting switch is in the "Dim" position and the gauges are at their brightest. Also to note: this is after I "uncommented" the 4 lines of the Lighting section of the Aircraft.cfg file.:salute:

Oh, and I'm listening to KPDX Approach "Live" (hey it's the closest I could find, lol). Lovin' the Seabee!!

falcon409

January 30th, 2012, 20:36

Ok, Redding proved to be a bit ambitious given the time I had left, so I diverted to North Bend. Here are some shots from the night flight.

falcon409

January 30th, 2012, 20:38

. . . .and the final set.:salute:

Ark

January 30th, 2012, 21:38

I think the glass shine is part of the material and not the texture. If it is, then the user cant edit it.

Ahh, ok. No worries. Thanks, Kevin!

I think this bird might be my new favorite FSX aircraft.

jpmouse

January 31st, 2012, 13:27

I used dx10 exclusively throughout making and testing the Seabee and never once saw ghosting. None of our testers reported it. What video card do you run, and do you see this only on the Seabee?

Found the cause. I went in to turn off DX10 preview and found that I had it off. Turned it on and the problem went away. Sorry for the false symptoms. Great fun, this aircraft!

papab

January 31st, 2012, 16:00

Go over to KC Flightshop Forums in the "General Discussion" and download the "Designated water runways for FSX"

20 pages of fun places to fly the SeaBee to and from.....

http://www.kcflightshop.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=11

Rick

Marvin Carter

February 1st, 2012, 14:45

Waiting for the next passengers to board!!!

58024

P38man

February 1st, 2012, 14:57

Waiting for the next passengers to board!!!

58024

Marvin, if you ain't gonna upload it then please desist from posting pictures!

OleBoy

February 1st, 2012, 17:16

Fellas, I already asked about the scenery Marvin had displayed. I sent him a PM instead of putting him on the spot out in the open. Lets see if I can get Marvin off the hook.

Here's what he replied when I asked about the scenery.

OleBoy, these are just scenery objects that I have placed with EZ scenery, most are payware scenery from Orbx and Ants airports.

Hopefully that clears things up.

Roger

February 2nd, 2012, 13:46

Thanks painters:ernae:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-6.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-5.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-4.jpg

Gibbage

February 2nd, 2012, 17:00

I just uploaded a set of 6! livery's for everyone! Just waiting for it to pass through the SOH system. Here is a peek at what to expect from it!

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wallyboard

February 2nd, 2012, 17:03

Great stuff guys!

Larry:applause:

Gibbage

February 2nd, 2012, 17:46

Sweet! My first livery upload!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=3&linkid=5258

OleBoy

February 2nd, 2012, 18:42

Thanks painters:ernae:

Welcome, admin :monkies:

DennyBoy

February 3rd, 2012, 07:30

Hi

Som wiev Seabee overfly ESAB Bromma, Stockholm Sweden.

Thank You at KCFS & Jankees for a very nice arcraft and textures.

Best Regard

DennyBoy

Roger

February 3rd, 2012, 12:50

Sweet! My first livery upload!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=3&linkid=5258

Thank you Ben Dean.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-9.jpg

Roger

February 3rd, 2012, 14:59

A few more...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-12.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-14.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seabee-13.jpg

Killbilly

February 4th, 2012, 04:55

Nice shots, Roger.

Hey, has anyone else noticed that the SeaBee doesn't leave a wake in the water. The spray effect works fine, but for me there's no wake. It looks a little odd. There is a wake entry in the effects section of the aircraft.cfg. Anyone have a fix?

Stan V.

February 4th, 2012, 08:43

Found the cause. I went in to turn off DX10 preview and found that I had it off. Turned it on and the problem went away. Sorry for the false symptoms. Great fun, this aircraft!

I had the same problem with the Seabee and the same fix worked, i.e., DX9=ghosting: DX10=no ghosting, from which I concluded that I should always use the DX10 preview with this aircraft.

Then I downloaded Orbx's new freeware airport CEJ4 and discovered some texture issues there. Working these in conjunction with the Orbx support forum led me to the information that DX9 is required for that scenery and the DX10 Preview mode causes texture issues. The scenery issues are not catastrophic but they are noticeable if you care to look. I suspect the same thing is true for many of the other Orbx sceneries as well - although to be honest, I have not verified this. Given that Orbx makes many of the sceneries where one might like to take the Seabee, all I can say is "Help, designers! You guys are setting up problems for us... Please factor in the targeted environment when designing and testing your aircraft".

Gibbage

February 4th, 2012, 10:03

Stan V.

February 4th, 2012, 13:06

I did all my testing exclusivly in OrbX, but in DX10 mode. I did not notice any texture problems with the OrbX PNW or OrbX Concrete. I will have a look at the Seabee in DX9 and see if I can reproduce the ghosting. Can you please submit a screenshot of this to our support forum?

Kevin,

I will do that IF I CAN REPRODUCE IT MYSELF - and so far, I haven't been able to - maybe, just maybe, DX9 vs DX10 was not the problem after all. It went away after I ticked the DX10 Preview but there might have been something else as well. I removed the DX10 Preview check after hearing from Orbx but the ghosting with the Seabee did not return. I do know that about the same time I had the ghosting problem, I also experienced some Java problems which I took care of so perhaps my issue was my own unique problem. In any event, should I encounter this ghosting problem again, I will be sure to get a screenshot and I will post it over on your forum. In the meantime, I would say your team is off the hook - don't waste any more time on it. I will continue to fly this fine airplane in DX9 mode and will continue to enjoy it. Thank you again for creating it.

As I said, my issue with Orbx and DX10 was at the new CEJ4 freeware airport release. The grass textures there appeared very blocky and at least one AI airplane was not textured at all. Their tech people told me the problems were caused by the DX10 Preview mode and sure enough, when I unchecked that, my problems with CEJ4 disappeared. Since most of their products are done by various developer teams, I suspect the difficulty with DX10 vs DX9 may vary from airport to airport.

Gibbage

February 4th, 2012, 14:24

Gibbage

February 9th, 2012, 18:16

Now that things have had some time to settle and calm down with the release, im starting to gather a list of bugs to fix, and also a list of possible features for the first service pack.

If your experiencing a bug, or can think of a possible feature would would like implamented into the KCFS Seabee, please stop by our support forum and feel free to open a thread on it! Im really eager to hear what the customers have to say!

Kevin

foreigndevil

March 22nd, 2012, 07:38

Sponsons dont generally drag in the water on any seaplanes. They are just there to prevent it from tipping over. You can see in this photo, that even though one side is dipping in, the other side has a good foot of air between the sponson and the water.

http://www.1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Cieslak/10563.jpg
Thanks for the information! Been away for a while, just saw your reply.

Stan V.

March 22nd, 2012, 10:10

Thank you for the update. If it happens, feel free to take screenshots and report it. With the shier ammount of differant add-on's people can have in there FSX, its really hard to keep them all playing nice togeather.

Just an update on what I was calling "ghosting" which for me at least was that the aircraft exterior textures turned transparent in the spot view.

Sometime later I ran into the same problem again - but this time it got much worse and it happened with a completely different aircraft and another scenery completely so it obviously wasn't anything specifically associated with the Seabee. This later time, if I used fsx's map display feature, it worked okay but then when I tried to resume flying afterward, all my displayed scenery textures were hosed and I had to abort the flight. That did it. I consulted with my computer provider (Jetline Systems - great guys), and they came up with a couple of changes that did wonders in preventing this from happening. It turns out that the problem was related to the texture display load and memory usage in the computer.

The first involved tweaks to the fsx.cfg file identified in an article by Mathias Koch at Aerosoft. See http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/34024-flight-sim-labs-ltd-fsx-texture-fix-utility/

The second change was a small utility patch to fsx itself that allows 64-bit systems to use a full 4-GB of memory for a given application - in my case, fsx.

So far, knock on wood, I have not had a repeat of the problem.

Gibbage

March 22nd, 2012, 10:13

Thanks for the information! Been away for a while, just saw your reply.

No problem! Rather suprised to see this post at the top again, but im glad I was able to help!!

imn2sims

March 22nd, 2012, 16:13

Just an update on what I was calling "ghosting" which for me at least was that the aircraft exterior textures turned transparent in the spot view.

Sometime later I ran into the same problem again - but this time it got much worse and it happened with a completely different aircraft and another scenery completely so it obviously wasn't anything specifically associated with the Seabee. This later time, if I used fsx's map display feature, it worked okay but then when I tried to resume flying afterward, all my displayed scenery textures were hosed and I had to abort the flight. That did it. I consulted with my computer provider (Jetline Systems - great guys), and they came up with a couple of changes that did wonders in preventing this from happening. It turns out that the problem was related to the texture display load and memory usage in the computer.

The first involved tweaks to the fsx.cfg file identified in an article by Mathias Koch at Aerosoft. See http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/34024-flight-sim-labs-ltd-fsx-texture-fix-utility/

The second change was a small utility patch to fsx itself that allows 64-bit systems to use a full 4-GB of memory for a given application - in my case, fsx.

So far, knock on wood, I have not had a repeat of the problem.

Glad you got it sorted and,if you would be so kind, could you provide more info on the 64-bit patch for FSX? Thanks

Steve

Chuck_Jodry-VJPL

March 23rd, 2012, 09:20

While this thread is up there was an issue with some 4 % of Seabee owners where there was an effect of water spray visible if the anchor was deployed by engaging the parking brake on water , this is something I have not been able to pin down to a root cause or duplicate , more information on graphics cards and settings is required , its only when motion is detected that the display is visible on my cherry install production machine, wind , dx setting and water effect levels do not seem to be at fault .

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The idea was floated to add a female passenger , and as a public service she shall remain silent , additionally a `Full Metal Jacket `model will be added with the materials arranged to produce polished aluminum , get your paint kits ready.

If you have an idea that will float your boat nows the time to let me know as there is an update being prepared to the release .

Killbilly

March 23rd, 2012, 13:53

While this thread is up there was an issue with some 4 % of Seabee owners where there was an effect of water spray visible if the anchor was deployed by engaging the parking brake on water , this is something I have not been able to pin down to a root cause or duplicate , more information on graphics cards and settings is required , its only when motion is detected that the display is visible on my cherry install production machine, wind , dx setting and water effect levels do not seem to be at fault .

I'm one of the lucky 4% that gets the "anchor fountain" effect. (I also get no wake effect when in motion; but that's already been mentioned.) If it helps, here are my system specs and settings:
Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93 GHz
4.00 GB RAM
Win 7 64 Professional SP1
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1.00 GB VRAM
FSX + Accel
UTX USA + ORBX PNW, NRM, CRM, PFJ, and various airports all correctly patched and latest libraries added
1680x1030x32 Resolution
DX9
Aircraft at Ultra High
Special FX at High
Scenery Sliders at Full Right except Water at Mid 2.x
No wind or weather other than some high clouds

If you need other settings, let me know.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9005/anchorspray.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/anchorspray.jpg/)

Chuck_Jodry-VJPL

March 23rd, 2012, 17:07

Killbilly

March 23rd, 2012, 20:09

Thanks , one question down, if it was gpu related , that all wave effects are absent is a clue to the system controller at fault , do the problems happen at locations without any scenery addons as well ?

Yes. The following screenshot is from the Virgin Islands. I have no addon scenery of any kind anywhere near there. It should be noted, as well, that none of my other amphibious aircraft show a wake when in motion and do not have a spray effect with the parking brake on. This is really a very small issue for me, as I don't spend a lot of time in the sim anchored; but it's a puzzle, isn't it? Tomorrow, if I have some time, I'll try replacing and removing the effects referrences in the aircraft.cfg file to see what changes. If you need me to try something, let me know.

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3904/anchorspray2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/anchorspray2.jpg/)