vstudios PT Stearman WIP (Payware)

[Deano]

Hi all, just a few development screenshots of the upcoming PT Stearman military and private civilian.

Planned not guaranteed release will be the '2' variants, Military and Civilian, 12 paintschemes accompanied with '2' airfields, NAS corpus christi and Grimes Airfield.

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss1.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss3.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss11.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss8.png

For those that are hungry, more can be seen here : http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?16-PT-Stearman

[Naismith]

Now that looks fantastic. Looking forward to this!

[Barnes]

Wow - count me in. Only did an hour in one RW and loved it :applause:

[papab]

My hanger is really getting crowded
Going to have to squeeze this one in!

Beautiful Deano!

Rick

[Deano]

these '2' :)


My hanger is really getting crowded
Going to have to squeeze this one in!

Beautiful Deano!

Rick

[Cag40Navy]

Looking good! Just wondering how the DC-3 and B-25 are doing?

[heywooood]

oh it looks so good - especially in that USN scheme - schweet:applause:

[PilatusTurbo]

I'm going to have to get this one, regardless. It looks soo goooooood. Thanks for you and your team on developing this one, Deano. :ernae:

Huge taildragger and Stearman fan, as you may have noticed from my sig and avatar... :d

[Deano]

yes, we're happy with the way she's progressing and very fun to fly.

[Dain Arns]

I am SO glad you are doing the civilian version as well.

Used to be less than an hour away from where "The Red Barons" were based.
Was a fun place to go visit.
Hard to believe it's been almost 5 years since they were disbanded by Schwan's Foods.

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[Roger]

Looks like a winner Deano:ernae:

[big-mike]

Sure--this one will be a winner.
What`s a sim without a good Stearman?:running:
Michael

[Deano]

Amazing video, thanks for sharing.

We just had to do the Civilian variant because it looks so damn sexy :)


I am SO glad you are doing the civilian version as well.

Used to be less than an hour away from where "The Red Barons" were based.
Was a fun place to go visit.
Hard to believe it's been almost 5 years since they were disbanded by Schwan's Foods.

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[Daveroo]

im looking forward to "these" as well,in auburn,or at the auburn airport,there is a hanger that was built in the 1930s,,was owned by a man named bill clark,( now decieced) inside is an all original stearman,no one really remembers its modle or year as no one has seen it since the 60s,,the hanger hasnt even been opened in that time....he locked it up and refused to allow anyone in......he was an odd man,,i knew him well,,he was in his late 80s in the 1980s,when i worked for him as a plumber....he had lost his pilots lic in the late 50s or early 60s for an unknown to me reason and locked the plane up,refused to show it to anyone,or sell it,,now his daughter refuses to let anyone see it and steadfastly refuses to sell it...im sure its in HORRIBLE shape by now,,the hanger is wooden,and you can see holes in the roof and the wood on the walls have shrunk so much there are huge gaps,,,thing is,,,,the plane has tarps covering it..so no one has any idea of what shape its in,,,he also had a 1939 lincoln zepher 2 door coupe ( maybe they all were 2door coupes) but it was in perfect condition,not even a swearl mark in the paint from waxing,was absolutely beautiful,but again..it was stored in a tiny little garge and had about 1000 miles on it the last time i saw it in 1993..the family sold it for over 1.2 million dollars us

[Felixthreeone]

One word....YUMMY

[AussieMan]

Looking good ...... may have to build a new hangar soon.

[crashaz]

What comes to mind when I see this plane. Heck with this addition one could almost fly their complete Navy career with Vertigo planes :applause:...just missing an advanced trainer.

Stearman->F6F->F8F->F9F

[Deano]

I'm open to ideas :)


What comes to mind when I see this plane. Heck with this addition one could almost fly their complete Navy career with Vertigo planes :applause:...just missing an advanced trainer.

Stearman->F6F->F8F->F9F

[stiz]

F4F would fill that lineup quite nicely :)

[Deano]

We still have our F4F partly done, it would make sense to finish her off.

[Roger]

I wonder if you've had thoughts for the F3F Deano?

[skyhawka4m]

I personally would love to see Vertigo do Corsair...a late variant like an F4u5N.......but also we need an F4U4 to boot.

[Deano]

If we do plan to release another warbird, we would most likely progress on with the F4F. We stopped development on her when JF disclosed that they was also working on one.

[skyhawka4m]

Dean...if you contact that airport this week...........its very possible my son and I could take a day trip up there on Saturday to get the info and pics you would like of Grimes Field. I don't geet many saturday's off, and with my son I think it might make for a cool side trip for him and I.

[crashaz]

Now that is some good news! If you do get the chance... make sure you also get pictures of the buildings to the east and south of the runway. See attached. :wavey:

[heywooood]

An F4F Wildcat would be nice, I am a Grumman fan....but an F3F, purely for FSX, would be sublime.

I've got the old AH model but its just not gettin' er done

[Deano]

I'll give them a call tomorrow (Monday) and see what they say.


Dean...if you contact that airport this week...........its very possible my son and I could take a day trip up there on Saturday to get the info and pics you would like of Grimes Field. I don't geet many saturday's off, and with my son I think it might make for a cool side trip for him and I.

[Deano]

small Wip update:


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss13.png


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss14.png

[roger-wilco-66]

If we do plan to release another warbird, we would most likely progress on with the F4F. We stopped development on her when JF disclosed that they was also working on one.

!! By all means, please do it !!

Cheers,
Mark

PS: And a Corsair....
PPS: My CC is ready for the Stearman!

[PilatusTurbo]

Yeah, the thread kinda went off the res, with development ideas, but hey... Let's get a bump for current progress on the Stearman! :ernae:

Any new news on release, Deano? Not asking for an exact date, but... Well, ok, I kinda am. :d Just really looking forward to having an awesome Stearman to play around with. :ernae:

[heywooood]

I guess I'll take partial blame for that - I love the look of these new Stearman models and only meant to infer that an F3F done to the same
quality would generate similar enthusiasm...speaking only for myself:kilroy:

Deano - any hint as to what your outfit expects to price the Stearman package for?

[PilatusTurbo]

Ohhhh, Heywoood, I didn't mean it that way, man. :d :ernae:

Actually... I, also, wanted to inquire about the price neighborhood.

As a payware customer of many years, having seen some of the huge price jumps or "inflation" if you will, I would recommend staying in the $20-30 US dollar range. Like the RV-8, which I may still buy, I believe this is a fair range for both sides. You still get a decent amount per purchase, but it's not totally insane like some companies I could but will not name charging $40-60 US dollars for ONE ship.

And, real quick... This thread will not turn into an argument over payware pricing. I was merely making a statement about Vertigo's already great packages and prices, so please, let's stay on topic. :ernae:

[Deano]

The price is yet to be determined, I don't think it'll stretch over $40. However the Boxed version will be higher than the Digital version to cover the publishing costs IE manual etc

Release date is still yet to be decided as we have the authentic recordings from a Stearman to add, however it will be our next release :)

Our current intentions are to release the Stearman with the following :

2 x Models, Military and Civilian with static props IE chocks, covers and so on.
12 x Paints, 6 military and 6 civilian.
2 x Airfields, Grimes airfield and NAS Corpus with static aircraft.

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss15.png

[heywooood]

no worries Pilatus - I like to see threads stick to the OP topic also...I just fell into me own trap over the F3F idea lol

Deano - for all it comes with I think your ballpark asking price is a fair deal, you can go ahead and count my money in.

[OleBoy]

No requests here. I'll be sitting on the fence in anticipation of rave reviews. :kilroy:

[YoYo]

Deano, please remember about paintkit :) .

[Deano]

we always release a paintkit ;)

[PilatusTurbo]

I'd have to agree: given everything you'll receive in the package, the price tag of $30 something dollars isn't going to kill me. :ernae: I love the Stearman too much to not buy this. :d My avatar until recently, was the FS9 Sanderson Stearman; loved that plane.

[Deano]

Heres the latest paint that Bruce is working on :

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss16.png

[Roger]

Mexican Air Force...why not, it's a genuine aircraft.

[Deano]

I think its always nice to cover as many nations as possible. We tend to see alot of US and UK based birds. We're currently on the last Military scheme which will be a French version.

[OleBoy]

I surely hope that you give the option to not install repaints that have no interest to consumers. Having to install all those repaints (only to remove the unwanted afterwards) without a choice is a little ridiculous. Not to mention time consuming and a hassle to deal with. Seems to be the norm. Why, I don't know. Something to think about in the install options. If there are others we are interested in, then we can download it at a later time. Or wait until it's done by one of the repainters. :salute:

[Roger]

I surely hope that you give the option to not install repaints that have no interest to consumers. Having to install all those repaints (only to remove the unwanted afterwards) without a choice is a little ridiculous. Not to mention time consuming and a hassle to deal with. Seems to be the norm. Why, I don't know. Something to think about in the install options. If there are others we are interested in, then we can download it at a later time. Or wait until it's done by one of the repainters. :salute:

It's easy enough to delete any paint schemes you don't want, what's the problem?

[OleBoy]

It's also easy to add the option to not install what's not wanted. The installers give the options to do this. So why not incorporate it in the install routine? Then we wouldn't have to manually remove what we didn't want in the beginning.

[skyhawka4m]

Deleting or adding...it takes time. Frankly......I'm glad they are offering some not so common schemes. That blue and white one is awesome.


Deano...I got your message.......I am off every friday for the next couple weeks but if its easier I'd be glad to take a vacation day on a nice sunny day so that I can do the photography you would need for the airport. did they sound like they would be open to it? Also, can you send me a list of specifics that you want...building shots....anles?

[Deano]

Talking on previous released. Once installed, simply highlight the paints you don't like and hit delete. It can't get any more simpler than that, why complicate matters.

What we can do is just add '1' paint to the package for each variant and add the additional paints to our download section.

[Barnes]

It's easy enough to delete any paint schemes you don't want, what's the problem?

I agree - Its quicker to delete stuff than load repaints one by one.

[Flame-Prop]

I was wondering who is flying the plane? I cannot see the Pilot or Passenger :wiggle:

[Deano]

UAV PT17

I was wondering who is flying the plane? I cannot see the Pilot or Passenger :wiggle:

[Daveroo]

UAV PT17


LOL......wheres me waders?

[Deano]

Another Golden Oldie

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss17.png

[PilatusTurbo]

Deano, you're killin' me! I can not wait for this thing. :ernae:

[Bomber_12th]

I'll be very, very happy if the flight dynamics will be accurate enough to allow you to perform this display - nothing less, and nothing more. One of the best tests to ensure the accuracy of the flight dynamics would be to try and recreate this display. This display, as is performed by John Mohr (one of my top ten idols when it comes to current-day pilots) at many different airshows throughout the summer, is all done with just 220 hp, stock to original USAAC/USAAF Stearmans in WWII - thus this type of flying could have been done with any Stearman that came out of the factory during WWII. I believe I have read that at no time during the display does Mohr reach more than 110-115 mph - certainly no more than 120 - and likely tends to hover around 80-85 mph. By studying the display closely, you can also get a fairly good idea as to the level of energy/power that the aircraft can obtain and maintain, as well as the level of maneuverability the aircraft has, with just aileron rolls only, snap rolls with rudder/elevator, rudder authority alone, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flx-TSXBc1E&feature=fvst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Q0qKSFsPo

[Deano]

If any of the acts in this video have been replicated it FSX then yes I can't see why not

[Bomber_12th]

Dean, I'm not really talking about snap rolls or hammer heads, but rather knowing that you can complete a roll, or a loop, or a cuban-eight, etc., at the same airspeeds/altitudes as the real aircraft (but on the same token, not allowing it to do more than it really can). The reason I mention anything, is that I would be concerned that someone, and I'm not singling out anyone, might be tempted to be okay with a rather mundane flight model, as it is a vintage biplane, where as you can really throw a Stearman around in the sky, as long as you have the energy to do so - while at the same time I would also be concerned that someone could make the aircraft too "sprite" as well. I just figure the John Mohr Stearman demonstration is a very good measuring tool to go by.

Just make sure that you are "wringing it out" over the field. ; )

[Bomber_12th]

Having said all of this, I have forgotten to mention how much I like what I'm seeing in the preview screens (I wouldn't have even posted to this thread, if I hadn't)! I don't have very well-trained eyes when it comes to the Stearman, but it definitely 'looks right' (as they say)! Although I do really like the yellow/blue USAAC paint schemes, I'm a sucker for the all-silver later-war USAAF schemes (I'm not sure if the idea has crossed by you or not, but you could also include a Tuskegee example, which might help to further sell the product - there are a few surviving/restored examples that fly today that originally were used by the Tuskegee Airmen - both blue and yellow schemes and later over-all silver schemes).

[Deano]

Personally I've never had the honour to fly a Stearman, however we do have a guy on the beta team that has one on his farm who's built up many hours on the Stearman, so we should be able to drill down the dynamics of this bird.

[bruce448]

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/WAFU448/ZK-STM-1.jpg




http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/WAFU448/oldcrow-1.jpg

Bruce

[FSN]

This thing looks great and is a fun flyer so far. I'm starting the sound pack for it today for the boys at VS. Looking forward to it!

[big-mike]

This thing looks great and is a fun flyer so far. I'm starting the sound pack for it today for the boys at VS. Looking forward to it!
Great---when you are doing the sound file.............
Michael

[FSN]

I've started today doing research and already have my Stearman recordings from 2006 I'll be using. I'll start sound designing and stuff tommorrow. Gonna take a few weeks to work on it.

[crashaz]

Great news!! :jump:

[Deano]

Just a small update to show the cockpit, hope you like them :running:


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss18.png


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss19.png


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss20.png

[Barnes]

Thats bleeping fantastic - what brilliant texturing - well done :applause:

[JAllen]

That is looking so sweet right there!!! :applause::applause::applause:

Jim :salute:

[Deano]

Getting our new sounds tonight, so I'm very excited

[Barnes]

Im not surprized - this could be your best yet - and thats an exceptionally high benchmark compared to your fantastic Bearcat and Panther

[Deano]

Thanks for the kind words, its always appreciated.

I personally prefer this slight weathered look, the F4F Wildcat will be a stunner ;)

[roger-wilco-66]

Excellent, Deano, can't wait!

[Roger]

Lovely stuff Deano.

[Bone]

Beautifull. I hope you change your mind about closing shop, it will be a shame to see the talent go away.

[DennyA]

If we do plan to release another warbird, we would most likely progress on with the F4F. We stopped development on her when JF disclosed that they was also working on one.
So does this mean the talk last year about more 50s jets isn't going to happen? :(

Guess the F9F didn't do that well? Bummer. I really like mine.

[YoYo]

Deano, keep good work! :applause:

[Deano]

We have a few aircraft modelled.


So does this mean the talk last year about more 50s jets isn't going to happen? :(

Guess the F9F didn't do that well? Bummer. I really like mine.

[Cleartheprop]

Wow, this one looks fantastic as usual! Looking forward to the release.
Thanks for developping such marvels. :ernae:

[big-mike]

Can`t wait!
Fantastic work,Deano.:applause:
Michael

[gtirob01]

That looks fantastic! I recently bought the Bearcat as my first vstudios aircraft and am extremely happy with it. That will make buying this one a no brainer! :salute:

[fsafranek]

Great to see she looks that good in the game. Renderings can be deceiving.
:ernae:

[Fireball6]

No Doubt - another "Must have" ..........:icon_lol:

Dirk

[Deano]

Just a small update :

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss25.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss24.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss23.png

[Deano]

And a couple more..

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss22.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss21.png

[Bomber_12th]

It's looking great, Dean, and I'm looking forward to it! The pilot models look very well done too. (Speaking of which, any chance of having one of the pilot models seated up front in the VC, and providing either a click-spot in the cockpit, or on a pop-up window, that will allow you to turn the visibility of the front-seat VC pilot model on/off? Would add to the experience, having to look around a front-passenger every now and then. ; ))

[Deano]

yes both pilots can be removed.

The rear pilot is in the bar having a liquid lunch when you turn the fuel and battery off, the forward pilot can be toggled on and off, both pilots can have there visors down and up and is also animated.


It's looking great, Dean, and I'm looking forward to it! The pilot models look very well done too. (Speaking of which, any chance of having one of the pilot models seated up front in the VC, and providing either a click-spot in the cockpit, or on a pop-up window, that will allow you to turn the visibility of the front-seat VC pilot model on/off? Would add to the experience, having to look around a front-passenger every now and then. ; ))

[CodyValkyrie]

You dirty dog. How can we arrange to work on this together? This will be an exciting plane for me. :)

[Deano]

nothing like listening to the PT's engine at start-up and then slowly opening the throttle to hear the wind rushing past :jump:

There's a plan in order to release a couple of addons, 1 being a pontoon version and the other being a crop duster. The Pontoon will be a basic addon fee the crop duster a little more because we would implement weight dispersal plus major external modifications. Nothing is set in stone for obvious reasons as one doesnt know whats around the corner.

If there are any mission builders out there, please contact me as I may have some work for you for some updates on past products.

[CodyValkyrie]

Stearman has been easily my favorite producer of biplanes, followed closely by Waco. I got a ride in a Stearman quite a few years back by an older gentleman. I was expecting a very simple and elegant scenic ride, but for $50 that old man did loops, rolls, flew in between trees and generally scared the living hell out of us while we were laughing. I am in love.

[Deano]

No doubt, the best $50 you've ever spent :)



Stearman has been easily my favorite producer of biplanes, followed closely by Waco. I got a ride in a Stearman quite a few years back by an older gentleman. I was expecting a very simple and elegant scenic ride, but for $50 that old man did loops, rolls, flew in between trees and generally scared the living hell out of us while we were laughing. I am in love.

[Ian Warren]

I could see me trade me ugly mug in that cockpit ... Grrrrrr :kilroy: but then that would make it as real as it gets :icon_lol:

[jankees]

forget about flight, I want this one!

[skyhawka4m]

forget about flight, I want this one!


:applause:
:medals:

[alehead]

Great looking Stearman... with a good one of those, I won't need Flight...

Just one thing though, the rear wheel is too flat, which makes it look too wide. The real rubber tailwheel is more rounded.

This is one of those planes for that evening flight after a long day in the office!

Andrew

[Deano]

http://rogerritter.com/images/aviation/Wb2N2S/File0006.jpg


Great looking Stearman... with a good one of those, I won't need Flight...

Just one thing though, the rear wheel is too flat, which makes it look too wide. The real rubber tailwheel is more rounded.

This is one of those planes for that evening flight after a long day in the office!

Andrew

[SpaceWeevil]

I have pictures with both types, so please count me as not minding much either way! Maybe it depends on the type of surface it operates from?

[stiz]

I have pictures with both types, so please count me as not minding much either way! Maybe it depends on the type of surface it operates from?

and depentant of the tire the owner brought to replace any old ones, modern restorations, whilst mostly accurate, always differ in some areas due to haveing to be changed to suit modern rules and regs (or just because the modern stuff is better/safer) :engel016:

[alehead]

Thanks for showing us that photo there, Deano... Looks like a hard rubber flat roller more than a tyre there... :) However, it appears to be too wide in the sim. Based on your photo, it should be around 1/4 to a 1/3 less wide... Oops, I may have stepped over the threshold into the world of rivet counting, sorry... Of course it is not a show stopper for most... Andrew

[trucker17]

Great looking Stearman....
I have added Accu-feel to FSX...and Vstudios planes were great before, and now WOW....I can hardly wait to add the Stearman.....Only thing that will be missing is the wind blowing in my face.....( Guess i could use a large fan for that.... :icon_lol:

[MarkH]

Great looking Stearman....
I can hardly wait to add the Stearman.....Only thing that will be missing is the wind blowing in my face.....( Guess i could use a large fan for that.... :icon_lol:

Allow me...


http://youtu.be/uU52nLjuBgM?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/uU52nLjuBgM?hd=1)

[bushpilot]

There's a plan in order to release a couple of addons, 1 being a pontoon version and the other being a crop duster. The Pontoon will be a basic addon fee the crop duster a little more because we would implement weight dispersal plus major external modifications. Nothing is set in stone for obvious reasons as one doesnt know whats around the corner.



If you decide to make a crop duster variant with all the bells and whistles, I'm officially in. I'm just a sucker for ag-planes. Hopefully with some beaten and weathered liveries like this:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/2/6/1316621.jpg

[Roger]

I'm enjoying the Stearman in "Flight" but I think I'm going to enjoy this one even more in FsX:engel016:

[Deano]

She's basically ready for release.

[Roger]

She's basically ready for release.

...So let me buy it:engel016:...:costum:

[Ark]

...So let me buy it:engel016:...:costum:


Me too!

[Deano]

We'll be releasing a preview movie and also screenshots over at vertigo studios over the weekend as a showcase.

[bruce448]

Deano's gone off-line so I'll post these. :sleep::sleep::sleep:

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/WAFU448/2012-3-30_23-39-29-547.jpg


http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/WAFU448/2012-3-30_23-57-43-876.jpg


http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/WAFU448/2012-3-31_0-1-45-460.jpg


Bruce

[Ian Warren]

SWEET :wiggle: I did loop'D'loops over Christchurchs Wigram in STM .. boy .. am i in for a retro ride :icon_lol:

[myles]

I think you had me with the Butterlys paint! Now I've seen screenies of the Crunchies and the more recent Team Guinot variations, I'm convinced this is a must have.

Stop the dithering, Deano, and get this out of the hanger - NOW! :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Thanks,

Myles

[OleBoy]

All these fields that the Orbx teams abnormally tossed throughout the PNW are in need of AG variants.
Maybe we can spread some fertilizer to get them green as they should be! :icon_lol:

[bushpilot]

All these fields that the Orbx teams abnormally tossed throughout the PNW are in need of AG variants.
Maybe we can spread some fertilizer to get them green as they should be! :icon_lol:


Exactly! And there are several locust infested fields at Aussie-land that need some spraying too. I've tried to keep those critters away with R. Sanderson's Stearman duster, but I think they have become immune to the old poison and we need a native Stearman duster.:salute:

[cheezyflier]

i haven't been doing as much flying these days because i need a new stick. the possibility of a crop duster really gets my attention. i could fly down in texas, and make people do the dance of the herbecide indians...
:icon_lol:

[heywooood]

after getting hooked on the MS Flight Stearman and then losing interest to some degree in that..whole..situation - I expect I will find a way to purchase vstuds PT19 on day one...

athankyou

[Deano]

A little Preview !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAJMzzwcoqU

[OleBoy]

Dangling the carrot before the horse. Horse, SIT! STAY!!! :icon_lol:

The suspense is going to kill them.

[Ian Warren]

I just kept looking ... then was told Jeeeez don't Stearman :icon_lol:

[Deano]

Nah, There's some minor issues need correcting before official release.

[sim-paticissimo]

Please, does it have VC shadows as usual?

[sim-paticissimo]

The Stearman is almost out! And it has VC shadows:salute:

[YoYo]

Deano, very nice video of incoming new product of Vertigo! Crg!
Sold!

[VCN-1]

Very Impressive!

VCN-1

[sim-paticissimo]

Yeah, it seems to be one of the best Aircraft of the History of Simulation!:icon_lol:

[JAllen]

This looks so GOOD!!!!! Can hardly wait!! :applause::applause::applause:

Jim

[Deano]

it's shaping up nicely, not quite ready yet though :salute:

[Deano]

For the ones that are missing any vstudios aircraft, make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter. The Easter Bunny has some tidy offerings for all !

[YoYo]

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/stearman_images/Lo_Res/pt_11.png

More new shots: http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/pt17

[Bomber_12th]

Edit: Really looking forward to flying it in FSX first-hand!

[Deano]

removed! :mix-smi:

[bushpilot]

Looking good! Did I already mention that I'm gonna need some sort of crop duster addon for this in the future62421:sheep:

http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/66/05/53510566/photos/The-Early-Years/John%20Seay%20Crop%20Dusting%20in%20Stearman%20198 3%20001.jpg

[Deano]

lol, that looks like it was made out of a cereal box :jump:

Looking good! Did I already mention that I'm gonna need some sort of crop duster addon for this in the future62421:sheep:

[Bomber_12th]

Dean, as you know, I've gone the PM route too, and do tend to try and keep to that...I'm just trying to provide another helpful nudge, and I wasn't expecting at all that anyone would take it as negative. I have no intentions of scrutinizing in the least, just provide some honest feedback as I see it (the same that I would expect in return) - it would be a shame if such feedback would continue to be thought of as negative. The fidelity of the models and textures is excellent!! And I look forward to getting it the moment it is released.

And I don't know if it comes across through my posts, but please don't take me overally serious!

[bushpilot]

lol, that looks like it was made out of a cereal box

Haha that's actually American country singer Johnny Seay flying his Stearman duster. Pretty sharp:icon_lol:

[Deano]

lol, I guess he only flew it when the sun was out, otherwise.. I dread to think :D



Haha that's actually American country singer Johnny Seay flying his Stearman duster. Pretty sharp:icon_lol:

[Bomber_12th]

What is it with country singers and Stearmans? Aaron Tippen has a Stearman, as does Jimmy Buffet (both are beautiful examples!).

[rdaniell]

What is it with country singers and Stearmans? Aaron Tippen has a Stearman, as does Jimmy Buffet (both are beautiful examples!).

John, they are the only one's who can afford them....:icon_lol:

RD

[Cirrus N210MS]

looking forward for a Stearman :salute:

[imn2sims]

For the ones that are missing any vstudios aircraft, make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter. The Easter Bunny has some tidy offerings for all !

Deano, how does one go about subscribing?

Steve

[Deano]

Hi Steve, the newsletter signup form isn't easy to find :(

However, it can be located here : http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/developer-diary

I'll open fresh post tomorrow morning anyway's as an announcement with product coupon codes and instructions how to apply the coupons at pcsimstore.com

The sales will be announced on the following places so that most people get to know.

Facebook
Twitter
vertigostudios website
vertigostudios forums
pcsimstore.com
vertigostudios newsletter.

Im anticipating some good 30 to 35% discounts.

I'll be sat on the pc over the next four days as I'll be watching the US Masters :jump:


Deano, how does one go about subscribing?
Steve

[imn2sims]

Thanks Deano, just signed up.

Steve

[heywooood]

while waiting

[Deano]

For those hoping for a Crop duster, the following news might be great news.


Its official, work has now started on the Pontoon and also the Crop Duster variant.


More information and images to follow over the short coming days.

[bushpilot]

For those hoping for a Crop duster, the following news might be great news.


Indeed it is, thank you :salute:

[OleBoy]

:applause:
Old style floats would be better suited I think. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Piranha-Aviation/Boeing-PT-...-Kaydet/0828504/L/&sid=29418090e8a1b40de1025d9b447bc4fe
Just a suggestion.

[Bomber_12th]

Does anyone know how many Stearmans have had floats fitted? The thing in the photo above is just set-dressing, and not a real aircraft. I'm really curious, because I'm only familiar with one highly modified example in the 1970's, having floats fitted (I believe it was operated by a sprayer company). I'm not aware of any N2S's (the Navy Stearmans) ever being manufactured with them (the Navy used the N3N for that job - a completely different aircraft).

[bruce448]

Does anyone know how many Stearmans have had floats fitted? The thing in the photo above is just set-dressing, and not a real aircraft. I'm really curious, because I'm only familiar with one highly modified example in the 1970's, having floats fitted (I believe it was operated by a sprayer company). I'm not aware of any N2S's (the Navy Stearmans) ever being manufactured with them (the Navy used the N3N for that job - a completely different aircraft).


See this thread John, http://www.stearman.net/forum/textthread.cfm?catid=3&threadid=2186



Stearman Model 76 is a variant of Model 75 (which served as a primary trainer and was based on the earlier Stearman Model 6). Model 76 was designed as a fighter version, featuring more powerful engines (Pratt & Whitney Wasp Jr / Wright R670-E2/ R975-E3 engine, Hamilton Standard (http://www.enotes.com/topic/Hamilton_Standard)2 bladed prop) and aerodynamic improvements like engine cowlings etc. The maiden flight took place in 1936. Several versions were equipped with MGs, bomb racks or aerial cameras and some airplanes were converted to seaplanes, equipped with Edo floats. A limited number of these versions were built for the export market (Argentine, Brazil, Cuba, Philippines, Venezuela).

[heywooood]

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/pt17

less than 2 weeks be sure...?

[Deano]

The PT is ready for release, however we're awaiting some final licensing agreements.


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/pt17

less than 2 weeks be sure...?

[Barnes]

Good luck - this looks to be a benchmark product for you guys

[Python231]

Who needs Microsoft Flight when you got this!

[italoc]

Who needs Microsoft Flight when you got this!

:wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:
100% agree !!!:wavey:

Italo

[tomford]

How goes the float model? any chance of getting it with bigger "tundra" tires? i always thought it would be cool to see a stearman with bushwheels

Tom

[cheezyflier]

very much looking forward to this release. i really loved david eckert's for fs9

[Deano]

No tundra tyres I'm afraid :kilroy:, the floater will be ready for final beta Friday evening.:salute:

However, the floater and AG will be released as an additional full product release.

[tomford]

Alright, worth a try, any teaser pictures of the floats and or ag?

Tom

[cheezyflier]

you know, the idea of an ag version makes me think of that book "border pilot". that was a cool story.
if folks made scenery for something like that, crop dusting on fsx would prolly be alotta fun, i bet
:cowboy: hey, who is this guy? i found him in the smileys

[bushpilot]

I agree. Scenery populated with powerlines, barns and such, would be welcome addition. And maybe even 3d crops? And Gary Grant running at the field, would be fun to chase him:icon_lol::

[bushpilot]

No tundra tyres I'm afraid :kilroy:, the floater will be ready for final beta Friday evening.:salute:


I think the floater would make an excellent bush plane, can't wait to roam Alaska with it.

[Deano]

Alright, worth a try, any teaser pictures of the floats and or ag?

Tom

Just one ;)


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss26_teaser.png

[tomford]

Awesome! is it done yet? Lol

Tom

[Roger]

Now that is a teaser:santahat:

[heywooood]

Just one ;)


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss26_teaser.png

oh my

[bushpilot]

Just one ;)


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss26_teaser.png





http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/285.jpg

[fsxar177]

Just one ;)


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss26_teaser.png

TAKE THAT MS FLIGHT

[bushpilot]

Just casually bumping this:kilroy:. Any news of them peculiar planes?:mixedsmi:

[Deano]

We will be sending out a boxed pre-order email early next week for those interested.

Expected ETA will be on or before the 30th of this month, all pre-orders will have limited free shipping worldwide before its officially released.

[bushpilot]

Alrighty then, sounds good. Will the duster/floater package be released simultaneously with the military/civilian package?

[Deano]

In regards to Vol II this will be released at a later date.

[Barnes]

this is great news Deano - thanks for saving me from checking your website every few hours LOL

[Dain Arns]

Good. It means I can start planning for "The Flight..."

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[Cag40Navy]

If development isnt to far along Vol II, can the firefighting variant be considered?

http://www.scalefirebombers.com/pt17.html

[cheezyflier]

that's a little bit disappointing. i suppose that means i'll wait for vol II, so i can decide which version i'd rather have. in the past few yrs i have seen it become a trend where modelers split things up this way in order to sell more. everyone has a right to make $$, but for me, i'd rather get everything all at once, like carenado did with the 206, or lionheart with the kodiak. one might argue that they are different models, (the military and the civy version of the stearman) but they ain't so different as to pay full price for them twice. maybe i'll look a little closer at the gas stearman.

[bushpilot]

I'm going for the Vol2 also. I think all the models will be worth the money, but for me the latter package is just much more appealing.

[Deano]

that's a little bit disappointing. i suppose that means i'll wait for vol II, so i can decide which version i'd rather have. in the past few yrs i have seen it become a trend where modelers split things up this way in order to sell more. everyone has a right to make $$, but for me, i'd rather get everything all at once, like carenado did with the 206, or lionheart with the kodiak. one might argue that they are different models, (the military and the civy version of the stearman) but they ain't so different as to pay full price for them twice. maybe i'll look a little closer at the gas stearman.

But when does it end.

People request all kinds of variants and to date we have around 6 or 7 that the end customer would like to see released.

We have broke the stearman down in to '4' variants and I don't think that there's many developers that can stand to pay out for '4' variants of aircraft and make any kind of profit.

When we first released the Hellcat sales was good, however 4 years on and sales are dropping a considerable amount per new release so developers are adding additional models to bulk out an initial release. Now this is well and good but combine, less sales and additional models plus increasing development costs. Our pirces havent changed to reflect this, however its possible to increase the price of a release to balance development costs. This could be more hurtful and in return create even less sales.

Releasing the Airshow and Mil variant as a package is a great package.

Then we step into the AG and floater, I admit the floater isnt much of a deal breaker on its own, however the AG version is, simply because it will need external and internal alterations and also additional code regarding weight loss / gain dependant on how much fertilizer is being used at any given time.

But as Ive mentioned before, we will only be publishing the aircraft we already have modelled behind the scenes and development will end there for vstudios, simply put - development fees are costing more than sales.

And to be honest which I always am, in 18 months I will be looking for job.

[Roger]

We'll be very sorry to see you close Vertigo at least as far as FsX is concerned, Deano. I believe that business will pick up again with the disappointment many feel with "Flight" and the advent of Prepar3d and I hope that there may be Vertigo can survive to model again.

Regarding multiple packages of the same aircraft: John Terrell does this to great effect with the P51 and Carenado launched the C185 and then the C185 bush pack as an additional download.

[cheezyflier]

like i said, i'm not knockin you for trying to make some money. there's nothing wrong with that. nobody with an ounce of sense is suspecting that modeling will make you wealthy. i don't mind paying a little more for the complete package, i just don't want to buy it twice is all. and you're right. if you let them, folks will ask for variants and paint schemes all day every day, forever and ever. so there does have to be a line drawn somewhere. i'm not getting rich hanging ductwork, either. so i have to draw a line somewhere too. there's only so much in the budget for hobbies. especially when it's not my only one.




Regarding multiple packages of the same aircraft: John Terrell does this to great effect with the P51 and Carenado launched the C185 and then the C185 bush pack as an additional download.

what do you mean, "to great effect"? great effect for who? carenado? or do you imply that splitting the package somehow made a demonstrably better product for the end user? could you explain please?

[Roger]

......

what do you mean, "to great effect"? great effect for who? carenado? or do you imply that splitting the package somehow made a demonstrably better product for the end user? could you explain please?

I mean that people have been prepared to buy additional packges of the same aircraft type because they think the products are worth it. A full pack of all the model types would be an expensive one off purchase and would dely the release of the earlier models. Doesn't seem complicated to me and I will happily purchase both packages as they are released.

[Deano]

CheesyFlier - nah its fine, I didn't take it in a malicious way, just I thought I better explain things that's all.

I've been chatting with bruce over variants for a while and I / we would both love to see is an addon for Volume 1 which would be the one with a rear MG and also a one that was adapted for medivac, but will see how sales do before more work and money is thrown at it.

[bushpilot]

however the AG version is, simply because it will need external and internal alterations and also additional code regarding weight loss / gain dependant on how much fertilizer is being used at any given time.



I feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but this just sounds great, working dispersal systems and all. I can already smell the pesticide fumes.

[tomford]

Hmmm bush pack... floats tundra tires and straight skis. I would like that...

Tom

[Cag40Navy]

Ill retract my request. Considering what you said Deano. Fell bad hearing about Vertigo's postion.

[pilottj]

Good. It means I can start planning for "The Flight..."

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Ahh the Queen. She is a beauty. I did a Cannibal Queen repaint for the GAS Stearman A75 a while back. Looking forward to this Vertigo Stearman. The more old biplanes the better.:salute::icon29:

[Ian Warren]

VS .. Vertigo , yip my first real loop D loops was in a Stearman over Wigram in Christchurch ... course all due to trying to get promotional moneys , It was the ride id never forget , so this one is a MUST! :cool:

[Dain Arns]

Ahh the Queen. She is a beauty. I did a Cannibal Queen repaint for the GAS Stearman A75 a while back. Looking forward to this Vertigo Stearman. The more old biplanes the better.:salute::icon29:

Oh, I forgot about that! Just d/l'd it.
Thanks, for doing the correct 'Queen' too.
It's too bad they made her wear a bikini when she was sold to do the Tourist trade in Philly... :icon_lol:

[roger-wilco-66]

I'm very sorry, if not devastated to read about the future of Vertigo and sincerly hope that there maybe - who knows - will be an occasion to look at this descision again and maybe continue with the enterprise.
Anyway, Deano, I wish you and your team all the best.
And by the way, I as a customer have no problem with shelling out $$$ for packages of variants of aircraft. Totally legitimate in my eyes.

Cheers,
Mark

[Deano]

Life to short to feel Bad. Enjoy it all whilst we all can ;)



Ill retract my request. Considering what you said Deano. Fell bad hearing about Vertigo's postion.

[jeansy]

either way, nothing a paint job cant hide (to a certain extent)

looking forward to it

[Deano]

either way, nothing a paint job cant hide (to a certain extent)

looking forward to it

In regards to hiding ?

[Deano]

Hi Roder, we still have 18 months of aircraft to get out yet ;)


Thanks though, really appreciated.


I'm very sorry, if not devastated to read about the future of Vertigo and sincerly hope that there maybe - who knows - will be an occasion to look at this descision again and maybe continue with the enterprise.
Anyway, Deano, I wish you and your team all the best.
And by the way, I as a customer have no problem with shelling out $$$ for packages of variants of aircraft. Totally legitimate in my eyes.

Cheers,
Mark

[jeansy]

In regards to hiding ?

a lot of people dont care if their variant isnt made, as long as they can have their favorite paint scheme, or there are some nice schemes for the available model

they will fly it

[cheezyflier]

a lot of people dont care if their variant isnt made, as long as they can have their favorite paint scheme, or there are some nice schemes for the available model

they will fly it

i agree. thinking about it makes me think of banana bob. man, that guy did some awesome stuff.

[Deano]

That's not entirely true from the countless emails I receive.


a lot of people dont care if their variant isnt made, as long as they can have their favorite paint scheme, or there are some nice schemes for the available model

they will fly it

[Ian Warren]

When we first released the Hellcat sales was good, however 4 years on and sales are dropping a considerable amount per new release so developers are adding additional models to bulk out an initial release. Now this is well and good but combine, less sales and additional models plus increasing development costs. Our pirces havent changed to reflect this, however its possible to increase the price of a release to balance development costs. This could be more hurtful and in return create even less sales.

I wonder how sales might pick up with all models with release of the your company's USS Enterprise , myself have all the Vertigo Studio naval types , course the Stearman in its naval garb could be used as a trainer for the budding Hellcat pilot .. AI , Pilotable and Multiplayable CV-6 could be the saviour , the multiplays we have at NZFF for Carriers do create a large turnout .... may just work ;)

Be interesting to see how many of you enjoy WWII carrier ops ... I'd sure put my hand up even as the MP Captain of the ship .. the CAG so to speak:salute:

[Cag40Navy]

I wonder how sales might pick up with all models with release of the your company's USS Enterprise , myself have all the Vertigo Studio naval types , course the Stearman in its naval garb could be used as a trainer for the budding Hellcat pilot .. AI , Pilotable and Multiplayable CV-6 could be the saviour , the multiplays we have at NZFF for Carriers do create a large turnout .... may just work ;)

Be interesting to see how many of you enjoy WWII carrier ops ... I'd sure put my hand up even as the MP Captain of the ship .. the CAG so to speak:salute:
I wouldnt mind being the Big E captain for sessions... :D

[Roadburner440]

Normally I wouldn't consider bi-planes, but because of the place I volunteer at now the Stearman has kind of grown on me. So I am watching this digital one with interest... Sorry to hear about VS closing down eventually though Deano. I really hope a F7F is in those 18 months. I still remember the thread that was started way back before even the F6F was out! I am also going to have to call dibs on the B-25.. I didn't even know someone was making one..... Any idea when this puppy is coming though? I know on your site you said you were waiting on some trademark things to come through. Hope the bird has not hit any snags with that.

[Ian Warren]

I wouldnt mind being the Big E captain for sessions... :D
Your On ;), TS3 , the NZFF channel is great for the talk in or to go around again .. I d like a chance to fly in onto a controlled carrier and with my VS Dauntless , Hellcat , Avenger , course with the Bearcat and Panther we can just simply pretend the Big E was recommissioned as a training carrier for the Korean War types - then the idea of the Kaydet .. a Carrier full of them :cool:

[roger-wilco-66]

[...]
I am also going to have to call dibs on the B-25.. I didn't even know someone was making one..... Any idea when this puppy is coming though? I know on your site you said you were waiting on some trademark things to come through. Hope the bird has not hit any snags with that.

I also dearly hope for the B-25 release, as well as the C-47 that was in development and looked so promising. These are very popular titles which should generate some revenue for the developer... I'd buy them on the double for sure.

Cheers,
Mark

[griphos]

Been waiting for the Stearman. Looking forward to it. And would certainly buy both a B-25 and a C-47. I've been hoping for VS's C-47 ever since it's announcement.

[c87]

Let me 2nd, 3rd and 4th the motion to release the B-25 and the C-47. You have a ready and waiting buyer here. Also, I'm dying to see the Enterprise come out. Would love to have a nice WWII carrier to trap on.

[cheezyflier]

i didn't even know about those. sure would be nice

[tomford]

Any updates?

Tom

[Roadburner440]

My order still says "Pre-order," and it hasn't hit my door step. I am going to guess it got pushed back beyond June 9th. Hopefully everything is ok, and they didn't have to do a re-print.

[Deano]

The PT is to land at our offices tomorrow and will be shipped out the same day.

There was a hold up with printing the manuals as the box art and manual are supplied from different companies and countries, this is the only reason for the delay :kilroy:

Fingers crossed they are printed in English :running:

Off to watch the Footy :jump:

[Roadburner440]

Thanks Deano! I sure hope they are printed in English. Man that would be a bummer. Was just hoping it wasn't some last minute software "oh by the way." Is one reason I would be worried about doing a boxed product first vs a download first. Definately excited for this though, and looking forward to the B-25.

[Deano]

Dear All,

Do to the Manual printing running behind schedule there was a delay with all Pre-Orders, however the Stearman is now in stock and all orders have now been dispatched.

Please accept my apologies for the delay.

[noddy]

Great News.

[Roadburner440]

Excellent! No need to sweat it. Sure from the screens and video it will be worth the wait. Going to have to get cracking on repainting the one we have at the museum whenever it lands on the door step.

[tomford]

any idea on when the floats and AG will be released?

Tom

[cheezyflier]

any idea on when the floats and AG will be released?

Tom

according to the website it was only last tuesday that the d/l version was released.

[gray eagle]

Was the two airfields ever released? I have this Stearman and didn't see NAS Corpus Christi or Grimes either.

Also, how do you manipulate the front/backseat pilots i.e., make the front seat pilot appear dissapear?


Hi all, just a few development screenshots of the upcoming PT Stearman military and private civilian.

Planned not guaranteed release will be the '2' variants, Military and Civilian, 12 paintschemes accompanied with '2' airfields, NAS corpus christi and Grimes Airfield.


EDIT: Passenger display Shift + E + 3 (the student pilot appears front seat) - How can the rear seat pilot be removed leaving only the front seat pilot or is that possible?

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss1.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss3.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss11.png

http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/stearman/images/pt17_ss8.png

For those that are hungry, more can be seen here : http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?16-PT-Stearman

[WarHorse47]

Page 11 of the manual. Shift+E+3

And no, I don't recall the addon scenery. Then again, I don't install them all anyway. If I find something, I'll update this post.