Messerschmitt BF-110 by A F Scrub

[Ian Warren]

Messerschmitt BF-110 by A F Scrub , making a brilliant FSX debut , this is one type that has always interested me after buying the book about
LG-1 Zerstorer Gruppe , 1939-1941 , this course being the later G variant distinguished by the larger engine intake and twin MG-81 in the rear .
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/Ian_Warren/2010%20Flightsim/2Custom-46.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/Ian_Warren/2010%20Flightsim/3Custom-43.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m31/Ian_Warren/2010%20Flightsim/1Custom-54.jpg
Ideal for you multiplay combats and war scene screens :salute:

[Hurricane91]

That is real nice. Thank you for posting the screenshots Ian.

[Daube]

Well, that virtual cockpit doesn't look bad in this screenshot, which is quite a change compared to the various planes from M.Scrub I could try in the recent past.
Usually, when I would see his name on a model, I would expect a nice external model but a virtual cockpit pretty much far away from what I enjoy.
When did that change ?

[Ian Warren]

When did that change ?
Obviously this Christmas Season :icon_lol:

[Anneke]

What and where? Download?, new?

[Ian Warren]

What and where? Download?, new?

Sorry silly me , took it granted most check out Flightsim.com daily so run across there :running:

[Mathias]

By A F Scrub ????
That's our old Groundcrew Design Group Bf110 with some other 2d gauges thrown into the cockpit.

[stiz]

scrub has a history of takeing others stuff, tweaking em, then uploading em.

[oldpropfan]

Looked like it'd be pretty easy on the frames so I thought I'd give it a shot, this was in the readme:

CREDITS
=======
Special thanks to :
-Mathias Pommerien for the Visual Model and Panel .
-Alessandro Biagi for the textures

Didn't see anything where he claimed it was his work, just that he did some changes to make it FSX friendly. Hope he didn't violate anybodies EULA by uploading the whole model along with his mods as it's a nice plane to buzz around in.


Al

[Mathias]

Hope he didn't violate anybodies EULA by uploading the whole model along with his mods as it's a nice plane to buzz around in.


Al

Nothing serious really other than not asking permission to upload the files and not including our original readme.
His legal notes are bull btw as he isbn't in the position to expand on other guy's legal restrictions, hence why we always ask to include our original readme. :-)

[thunder100]

By A F Scrub ????
That's our old Groundcrew Design Group Bf110 with some other 2d gauges thrown into the cockpit.



YES

Roland

[Willy]

Every time I read "by AF Scrub", I wonder who's stuff is he uploading this time?

[oldpropfan]

Nothing serious really other than not asking permission to upload the files and not including our original readme.
His legal notes are bull btw as he isbn't in the position to expand on other guy's legal restrictions, hence why we always ask to include our original readme. :-)

In that case, Mathias, into the recycle bin it goes and I'll go search out your original work instead.

[Mathias]

Na, keep it and enjoy it.
Since it's freeware there's no harm done really.
Our old stuff can be found here btw:
http://www.regshanger.com/Groundcrew/homepage/Ground%20Crew%20Design%20Group%20Official%20Websit e.htm

[Naismith]

Slightly suffers from the old cross over problem of props and clouds, otherwise a nice addition, and as stated the 'pit looks great.

[oldpropfan]

Thank you Mathias and thanks for the link, some nice looking stuff there. Might have to reinstall CF3, that Do-17 looks interesting.

Al

[robert41]

Thanks for the HU. And thanks Mathias for the original design.

[Ian Warren]

By A F Scrub ????
That's our old Groundcrew Design Group Bf110 with some other 2d gauges thrown into the cockpit.

Thanks for the 110 Mathias . :applause:

getting the know about the authors , i'll read the doc's next time , i took A F Scrub as a single designer .

[Roger]

I thought I recognised it as I read the first post and saw the screenshots. I'm baffled as to why people do this...without a by your leave??

[SteveB]

I thought I recognised it as I read the first post and saw the screenshots. I'm baffled as to why people do this...without a by your leave??

Simples old chap they are ignorant muppets.

Stalin

[Roger]

Hi Steve,
I think you've got it right:santahat:

[mjahn]

Well, that's very generous of you Mathias.

For what it's worth (i.e. obviously nothing) Flightsim's Upload instructions state quite clearly that





<tbody>


1) Obtain all necessary permission(s) for anything you are using
based on another designer's work.

Don't use other people's work without their
permission.


</tbody>



and Nels if notified will remove any uploads not conforming to the rules (and this is rule # 1). I do think F Scrub should be told.

[thunder100]

I am not sure anymore wether I did myself(getting old) but in the aircraft cfg it states this

texture=
KB_checklists = CheckList_Bf 110 G2
description=Messerschmitt Bf 110 G2 Heavy fighter
ui_manufacturer =Messerschmitt
ui_type = Bf-110 G-2
ui_variation = Schwerer Jäger
ui_createdby=Ground Crew Design
ui_typerole=WW2 Fighter Bomber

So he did know

Roland

[Mathias]

Well, that's very generous of you Mathias.

For what it's worth (i.e. obviously nothing) Flightsim's Upload instructions state quite clearly that



and Nels if notified will remove any uploads not conforming to the rules (and this is rule # 1). I do think F Scrub should be told.

Thanks mjahn,

yes I know, I delt with Nels in the past on such matters and he always handles these things in the best possible way.
Don't worry too much about all this though, I'll drop Mr Scrub a note at occasion asking him to stick to the proper procedures next time around.
In the meantime enjoy his edits.

[Naismith]

54073
Simples old chap they are ignorant muppets.

Stalin

[Henry]

That is real nice. Thank you for posting the screenshots Ian.i will go along with that thanks:applause:
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[Lateral-G]

Slightly suffers from the old cross over problem of props and clouds..............

That's a deal breaker for me........but do hope others enjoy it.

[Mathias]

That's a deal breaker for me........but do hope others enjoy it.

I'm surprised that it works at all since it's an original FS2002 model.:icon_lol:

[peter12213]

One thing we need is a good 110 for fsx. The Zestorer was always one of my personal favourite axis WW2 aircraft.

[Mathias]

One thing we need is a good 110 for fsx. The Zestorer was always one of my personal favourite axis WW2 aircraft.

It's being worked on, Peter.:kilroy:

[kimdahl]

I'm surprised that it works at all since it's an original FS2002 model.:icon_lol:

Hi Mathias

Some FS2002 models will work quite well in FSX (if they are well made from the start), I have a few examples here. First the Seafire by Marc Siegel & Martin Wright:

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And then of course the unique Blohm und Voss Bv-141 by Sakichi System:

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They really were state of the art models when they were new, and they are still quite fun to fly.

Regards
Kim

[afscrub]

Hey fellows,

I'm not used to replay to remarks, positive or negative, from other flightsim enthousiast. However I'm realy annoyed by some remarks of people, telling I generally use other people creations for my own glory. Please remember I always give credits to the work of the original creators as far as I have information about their work. When converting CFS2 models to FS2004/FSX, I never say it is my work, but only give credits to myself for the necessary upgrades, instruments, airfile, aircraft.cfg etc.... And let us be serious...CFS2 is fantastic and I still fly with it regularly, but most people's interest is going to FS2004/FSX and there are so many magnificent native CFS2 models that just cry to be flown in FS2004/FSX.

no grudge, A.F

[stovall]

A.F. Grudge, I think all that is being said in the posts above is that it is best to ask permission before posting a model made by someone else. Many of the EULA's clearly state not to be used without permission. Also mentioned above is the inclusion of the original readme even if you have permission. The work is very nice and seeing this great aircraft fly again is truly wonderful. All we ask is that the rules be followed.

[Roger]

Thanks Tom, that's the thing.
AF Scrub you may be annoyed at the comments but do you not understand that the original authors of these aircraft are very annoyed by the total lack of respect shown to them when you offer them for download with some changes for FsX...without asking their permission?